I bought 64Gb RAM in 2013 (lol i paid less than $300 back then for it) and though "will it be sufficient amount in 3-5 years from now?". It seems it is so far. Sadly it's DDR3 and i won't be able to get new CPU wunning with that RAM.
Future Proofing does not usually mean making a PC last 5 years. It simply means getting parts that make sense for the future. Like a motherboard that supports M.2 even if you don't intend on using it right away. Or not populating all your RAM slots and getting larger RAM sticks right off the bat so you don't need to toss out the old ones. Or if you intend to upgrade the GPU at some point, get a quality PSU. Or if you intend on getting a more powerful CPU, get a mobo that supports CPU's out of your price rage. Ect.
Cyberdyne a lot of people don't understand that buying the expensive thing and leaving it in for 5 years is the console mindset. Like you said you future proof with features and upgrade options.
hd 7970 is a 5 year old card that plays around the gtx 1050ti level can still play games today. but the 1060 i hardly doubt it will last since its nvidia... you know they gimp their old cards so they dont last. AMD keeps it playing until its dead.
TheJungled | Scary stuff Exactly. That CPU made it pretty futureproof imho. And I'm an AMD guy. The 2500K still holds up really well for modern gaming. You could even slap at 1060 or 480 in there and it would run a charm. With added ram, as you and I said. You'd be fine for two years before needing to upgrade the CPU imho.
i have a i5-2500k @ 3,3ghz, from 2012, i just upgraded my gpu from a gtx 550ti to a gtx 1070 last year, all the games work like a charm. cant really complain about anything.
Captain Katawa depends. some nowadays games are very cpu intensive, take hitman 2016 by example. with a gtx 1080 your i5 would do ~40 fps max. with a 7th gen i7, would go more than 120 fps. arma is another example of this, and list goes on.
My current set up today. i5 2500k not overclocked, 8 gb of ram and a RX 470 ASUS STRIX OC = beast.... for gaming today. The only thing I have upgraded as the years have gone by is my GPU. Before the RX 470 I was using the legendary HD 7950 ICEQ turbo.
why a GTX 570? The HD 7970 was way more prominent and "future proof" than the 570, even at that price. Even in 2012 most "future proof" PCs had more than 4gb of RAM, hell mine came prebuilt with 6GB DDR3 at 500 dollars in 2011
Yeah, my build that I will be upgraded this summer had 8GB RAM, i5 3570K, 128GB SSD and a HD7870 and I paid around that price as well on Summer 2012 (I build it myself thou). Seems like the build shown in this video was just an average build for that time and/or overpriced for its parts.
4gb ram for that time was not even near future proof. My budget pc at 2012 with pentium g850 has 4gb ddr3 ram while my gaming laptop which I bought in 2012 has 8 GB.
I really truly love your channel and videos that you put out. It's just a great concept, with great details. Always entertaining, and informative. Thanks a lot!
RandomGaminginHD Can I actually buy one pc like this now between 300$-350$? My laptop is 4 years old, runs some 2013 games and is dying, so I need a quick replacement and my current budget is like 300-400$...
the one has nothing to do with the other. The CPU might still be decent but it came out 4 years ago, so it can be called old since that is a relative long time in pc hardware scale
+Marc Wessel, actually the 2500k is almost 6 years old now, since 4 years ago I already had my 3570k for half a year. And yeah, old and outdated aren't synonyms ofc.
So literally just set it to ps4 settings and you still get better frame rates lol. Gonna use this to the idiots who say you need to upgrade a PC every year for it to compete with consoles lol.
consoles don't go out of date until their replacement arrives. most devs target consoles, which allows PCs as powerful (or more) than the consoles to stay relevant for longer. and i love that. back in the 90's a 2 year old pc was utter garbage that couldn't even think about running the lastest stuff. now we can make do with pcs almost 10 years old.
GraveUypo what I'm saying is consoles don't get many updates. The games become better graphics wise, so most consoles run at low to high settings at 30-60 fps nearing the end of their life span
GraveUypo Consoles don't go out of date fast? I remember last gen, the xbox 360 started having huge performance issues in most modern games, even way before the xbox one came We make fun of the whole 30 fps thing now, but I was lucky if that shitty thing could even reach 30 in these games
***** Cpu and gpu are not the problem. Its just the game keeps consuming more and more ram untill it starts using the pagefile so it begins to stutter.
Gtx 980 | I7 4790k @ 4.0 ghz (going to overclock in future, but I only have stock cooler rn) | 16 gb ddr3 ram 1600mhz | 3 tb hard drive (i'm getting an ssd sometime in the future) | ASRock h97m pro4 mobo | EVGA 750w 80+ gold psu | Corsair 100r tower I plan to keep this until early 2019 at least, and then I may just upgrade gpu and keep it for even longer.
You're good with that CPU for god only knows how long, especially if you're yet to OC, unless you want high refresh rate stuff. Yeah, keep upgrading your GPU until the CPU bottlenecks then put your next upgrade money into a higher res monitor to alleviate the bottleneck ;)
My future proof from 2010 (in the same case as your) still plays everything. I only upgraded the video card with a single step up when it died. :) If done properly a front end investment will carry you quite happily into the future! Good video.
wolverine Well, you should have gone for a 980ti, which can be bought for like 250 US Dollars. Similar prices I have seen for the 980, which means that it still has a fucked up price/performance ratio, considering the fact that its performance can be achieved by a 970 if overclocked. In conclusion, with a 980ti you would have 1070 performance for a similar price. It may does not sound like there would be a big difference, but there is. While a 980ti/1070 can run all games on Ultra/1080p with at least 60fps, the 1060/980 as well as the rx480/rx580 and 970 strugle to maintain such performance.
Wow....nice vid! The gtx 570, one of my favorite gpu, it costs 30€ and has nice preformance! I' ve used it on my budget build for my friend and he is verry happy! Keep it up!
With all due respect, how could you name 'futureproof' a PC with 4 gigabytes of RAM? That was the common amount in '12, and you could be sure that future games will need more, heck, even '12 games like SWTOR had a hard time playing on 4GB (mass PvP on Ilum...). 4GB I had in my system (not considered to be a 'futureproof') in early 2009. My 'futureproof' from late '12: 3570K, 660Ti, 32GB RAM, Vertex3 SSD. ( I know I went overboard, but my motto is: you can never have too much RAM! Playing games from ramdisk is the way to go :) ) With only SSD change - due to infamous Vertex bricking - I could play quite decently until now, and even now, the only thing I have upgraded is the GPU).
+danimayb Nvidia is significantly worse when it comes to longevity of their cards. This trend has been going on for well over 5 years now. If an Nvidia and AMD card are competitive at launch, a couple years later the AMD card tends to outperform the Nvidia card by 15%, sometimes even 20%. Especially the GCN cards from AMD have aged amazingly well.
prodigy84bg I dunno, I bought my 2 980tis in 2015 and coupled with my i7 4790k they wreck the shit out of every game on the market, always ultra and usually in 4k. 2 years down the line and my Nvidia cards are doing ok so far and I expect they will for a while yet. I had an amd 7990 previously with an fx8350 and I can confirm that was a total heap of shit and a constant pain in the arse due to amds awful handling of drivers which they still don't win any prizes for now. At the time I upgraded amd had only released 2 official drivers in the previous 24 months! Great choice....
Niosus I agree. I've seen many screen shots posted online about nvidia driver updates actually nerfing older cards, the opposite is true about AMD. AMD tends to make their cards run better with each new driver update.
Exactly nvidia drivers really just suck after the next series comes out i feel like they tank performance to try to force an upgrade. Also they are just less powerful from a tflops stand point.
Been watching your channel for a few months now, and I appreciate that you consider 30-40 FPS as a playable FPS. lol, good work on the videos, keep 'em coming.
Upgraded my similar setup with a 1070 8gb, 16gb more ram (24 gb total) and overclocked my i5 2500k to 4.5ghz and it runs pretty much anything on ultra over 60fps
Diplodookus That's how you truly future proof, even if he bought two stick of 8gb ram 16gb would be sufficient for the next 5 years I'd say. I bought myself a 16gb stick(corsair vengeance) when I upgraded , that way all I have to do if I ever need more ram again is to get another stick instead of just two or have to get rid of an older one.. Etc..
yea but the thing is that this i5 was discontinued 4 years ago. By the time 24gb is useful this i5 wouldn't do nothing anymore. This is just a waste of money i'm trying to say.
Honest to god, so much BS in this video and no sense ... I used Asus Striker II Extreme till half a year ago with a Q9550 overclocked from 2.7 to 4.3ghz and it could run even GTA V with 60 fps on medium+ settings along with a 760gtx. I bought that computer nonetheless 9 years ago! Not to mention I could still upgrade the graphic card, run SLI or increase my ram from 8gb to 16gb. Only reason I decided to upgrade is because of the release of DDR4 which run on 3200mhz (over my old 2000mhz) and overall Sata 3/m2. My current setup is Maximus VIII Extreme with 32GB 3200mhz and i7 6700k, I expect this system to last for AT LEAST 8 more years, with upgrading my GPU only once in the future and maybe add an M2 when price drop (currently 1070 with 512 SSD)
I must say this setup has been helped by the lack of development in recent years I remember about 5 years ago this was not the case as performance was literally doubling with each generation in both CPU and GPU land. nicely done video.
HellFire Personally i don't give a fuck, as long as the product is top quality with a good price, i give no shit about who is behind it, i saw the AMD cores, i didn't like them so i stick with Intel I'm buying a Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB for my new PC,
As "Future Proof" builder myself, I really enjoyed the video. I built my future proof build back in late 2012 and it still handles everything I throw at it very well. These are the specs of my build: Corsair Obsidian 650D case Gigabyte Z77x-UD3H i5 3570K 3.4 GHZ (not overclocked) 32GB DDR3 RAM 128GB SSD 2TB SATA 3 HDD GTX 660 ti 2GB OC Edition Blu-Ray drive All of that for about $1250 USD at the time. I have thought about buying a new GPU but everything else seems okay to me even after almost 5 years.
its weird to to think that now we have the gtx 1080, in 7-8 years that card will be the equivalent to a gtx 680ti and a 6 core i7 would be the equivilent to an old amd athlon
I have a 2009 PC and i did 3 things to it , changed GPU to a GTX 950 OC from MSI,putted 4 gb extra RAM and added a 128GB SSD to it. It still lives strong. Runs GTA V Multiplayer at Medium- High ( didnt try further) Battlefield, Fallout Skyrim , CS GO Of course its not as good as a top pc nowdays, but i see no reason to exchange it so far, and it has been my daily working/gaming machine. Current Specs: Q9550 2.83GHZ @3.2Ghz 10GB Ram Samsung Evo 128GB SSD 1TB HDD GTX 950 OC Win 10 + Linux Mint 27" Full HD Monito The most longlasting computer i've build was definetly this. My Pentium 4 3.0 had few years as well but with 8 years it would feel very slow and sluggish. This one i dont feel any need to update and im a heavy user. Cheers
After watching this, I suddenly remembered that I built this PC in 2011. I bought my parts during a Black Friday sale, so I got better parts for less money, only really recycled my PSU (totaled just under $1000). The only changes since the initial build have been upgrading the video card (which only really happened last year) and replacing some faulty RAM. It's served me quite well, and still tackles high-end games with ease. I'm only just starting to see signs that it's beginning to be outpaced, so I built a new PC about a month ago (just under $800, but I'm planning on putting a GTX 1070 in at some point). As the video demonstrated, there's nothing wrong with putting in quality parts to have peace of mind for years to come (if it's in your budget). I'm certainly happy with the investment. This machine still runs beautifully, and I have no plans to get rid of it until it finally shows that it can't keep up. I'd give it another couple of years, at least. If it can make it all the way to 2021, and I made a decade full decade with this machine, I'll know I did a good job with the build.
this "future proofing" your pc is stooooopid when console people say " 🤓🤓 oh yeah, well atleast we don't gotta upgrade every year" lol can the ps3 run the Witcher 3? watch dogs 2? yeah.. of course not, I don't know where I'm going with this.. just wanted to point it out
The funny thing is, even though I'm a PC player and the PS4 have both Witcher 3 and Watch Dogs 2, and the console can be picked up used for about 160 pounds. The PS4 is only one year older then this computer and if we're comparing retail prices, the PS4 is still under half of the price of this computer in 2012. So, get your facts right and use fair comparisons.
That isn't future proof. Nvidia and AMDs next GPUs are supposed to be a lot more powerful than current gen, and Intel hasn't even released a CPU worth upgrading to since the 4th generation so sooner or later they'll release something really good
I just bought a five year old Lenovo tower with the same processor in it and upgraded it with parts I had laying around. $109 for it, it had no hard drive, 4 gigs of RAM, and a measly 230 watt power supply. I swapped the power supply with a 500 watt, pulled the RAM out and put 16 gigs in it's place, put in an Asus GTX 750 TI, and a two terabyte spinning drive. With the exception of the $60 hard drive, I had all those parts laying around from a budget build I had based on the g3258. The motherboard was going out in that one. I got a huge bump in performance for about the same cost that it would have been to replace the motherboard in my previous system. Very happy with that five year old processor.
The best way to "future proof" a system, is to build one that is designed for upgrading. If you are on a budget, then avoid things like hard line liquid cooling or cases where the goal is to achieve a certain look with a specific set of hardware. Instead, puck a case, power supply, cooling system, and storage that can last you through a number of builds. Since processing technology is always improving, you cannot future proof in that area, but you can take steps now to reduce the cost of future upgrades. Since I do not like SLI and crossfire (annoying driver issues), I have stuck with a 650 watt power supply, that I spent $80 on a number of years ago. The power supply has lasted me through many upgrades, as well as the case, and cooling system, Thus the bulk of my upgrades simply centered around the motherboard, CPU, and GPU (and with a recent move to skylake, the RAM also.
Is it only me who seems to realise everyone in this groups doesn't really understand computers, sees 1060's as god like think i5 2400's are still 'decent' CPU >_
Bought the 2500k overclocked it to over 5GHz right out of the box and hadn't had any issues with it since then. This cpu is still good for gaming. I was still using it until about 2 months ago when I picked up an x79 motherboard and a e5 2670 for $100 total. It collecting dust atm but the side grade allowed me to do streaming and youtube.
Built my PC almost 6 years ago for $1600 USD. Specs were: Antec 900 case, Kingwin 1000w gold rated PSU, EVGA P67 FTW mobo, Intel 2600k CPU, EVGA cooler, G-skill? 8GB 1366MHZ DDR3 RAM, EVGA GTX 570 (later 2 way SLI), 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD, Samsung BD drive, LG DVD RW drive. Four years ago upgraded to the EVGA GTX 680, added 16 GB 1600MHZ DDR3 ram and a 500GB SSD drive. Had the CPU @ 4hgz and no issues with any of the hardware. It still gets the job done.
I have a system I bought in 2009 or 10 & I still haven't maxed out it's capabilities. I've upgraded once. Went from 4 to 8GB RAM, 2 core to 4 core (AMD) and from a radeon 5670 1GB to a gtx 760 2GB. It has an aftermarket cooler & does a nice auto-overclock that usually ends up around a 20% boost. I don't need to be at "epic" settings to enjoy the games but it can do that on some modern games. It can still handle a 6 core Phenom II, 16 GB of Ram and 2 video cards if needed so I'd say I did well. What i took from the experience is that it pays to do a little research and pay the extra money for a higher end motherboard.
My $1300 PC from 2012 Is still going strong. Only swaped my 770 2GB for a 970 4GB last year. Also added an extra 8GB of RAM this past fall. Still rocking my i5 3570K and Z77 MoBo though. Running GTA V at 1440p/mostly High Settings/60fps.
Been playing on this setup for a few years now, I recently got a gtx 1070 and it still rocks. Probably sli when I upgrade the whole pc again to get all of its juice.
I built a PC 2012 with a 3770k on a Z77 chipset and Corsair H60 Watercooling, a Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce OC, 128gb ssd + 1tb 7200rpm hdd and damn it could play most todays games on high still, if its badly optimized maybe on medium. I exchanged the 670 with a EVGA 1070 GTX FTW and most games now run on ultra again, very smooth on my 144 hz monitor. And I think I'll still keep it several years.
I have a 1000 euro "future proof" rig myself. An i7 875k. I changed the GPU 4 years ago from a HD5770 to a GTX 660 and it runs modern games well. A tip about witcher, turning the post processing off helps really A LOT, A LOT, A LOT. I cringe at gamers recommending buying another GTX 660 to SLI, when just turning AA and all postprocessing but bloom off brought me to 40-50 fps at 1080p. Try it on this rig, the GTX 660 is only a little bit faster than the 570 so it should boost the fps. Quantum Break runs at 35-40 fps in low, and this is a game that GTX 1080 owners cry over because it does not run at 60 fps even in 1080p maxed out on a 1080. Doom runs about 50 fps average on medium. Everything at 1080p. To be honest through, I feel the best way to future proof is to buy a PC with a stronger CPU than the GPU, as you can upgrade it then by just buying another graphics card. To boot, my CPU is overclockable, so if I am ever needy for CPU power, I can get some for free. I think the introduction of the core i series was the last big leap in computing power we saw. Even one youtuber who vigoriously argued against old gen i3s, i5s and i7s started his video with "THIS IS FOR 120 Hz MONITOR OWNERS, IF YOU HAVE A 60 Hz ONE YOUR CPU IS STILL GOOD".
My system that is 5 years old is still a beast and a console killer, its no where near as beefy as todays systems but i'm running a i7 2600, 2tb HD, 16gb of ram and a GTX580 which at the time was one of the best cards you could buy. I live in Australia so it was a little bit more expensive at $1800, it still played all the recent games at a decent fps. Finally caved in and upgraded my video card to a gtx 1060 6gb and now can play most games at high or ultra at avg 75 fps, I'm really happy with my purchase and wont be upgrading for another year or 2. So in 5 years the only thing that really showed its age was the video card, everything else is holding out really well, I also recently bought a Noctua DH15 because the stock cooler was getting a bit hot, replaced the cooler and thermal paste now my system barely gets over 50c
I built my PC on February 2012, and still to this day I use it as my gaming PC, still a beast running all games medium-high settings at 1080p. I will probably upgrade my beloved R7970 Lightning this year when Vega comes out.
I know no one will read this but when you wanna future proof, you go mid gen, like when Devs figure out "the power" of the console, then it sets the standard for about 6-7 years also that I5 2500K is still golden even today can play 60fps nicely OC'd I mean I still have an I7 2600K, and it doesnt really bottleneck my 1070 at all, just sayin boi, also throw another 4 gig stick in there and that PC is still nice, I mean besides the whole 2gb of vram, I mean its better than my old 750Ti in a lot of ways, that thing is a good ass PC, Also good job! Keep it up britbong!
I just did a similar thing for my 7 year old son to game on with me - i5 2360, gts 450, 4gb ram, 128gb sdd , 500gb hdd, old case, win 7 licence from an old laptop - £128 all in and its gets 40-60 fps on gta5 benchmark at medium /1080! Pretty damn pleased!
I built an $800 PC in January 2013. Feels like it was so long ago, hard to believe it was only four years. Anyway, point is, I built it, my first build, had NO idea what I was doing, and it still runs everything except Arma 3 with zero issues. I run most games at much higher settings than I expect it will handle. So, I think future-proofing is a good concept. My next build will be done with this in mind and I am pretty friggin amped about the prospect of building a PC now that I actually understand what I'm doing.
I built a 2500k, gtx 570 and p67 rig in 2011 but I sure as hell got 8gb of ram! I also upgraded like 4 times since then but it's nice to see this holding in there! just a ram and gpu upgrade away from playing Witcher 3 @ 60fps
For me, the idea of futureproofing is just about finding that value for money spot where you spend enough to get a great gaming experience and not having to worry about upgrades too soon or overexpending, and that's usually in the ballpark of the 1000$, where you get a beast of a PC without the overpricing of the highest tier components and yet, as you showed, be up and running years later.
just built my first pc back in august, hopefully will last 5+ years. cpu- i7 6700k gpu-asus rog strix 1070 moba-gigabyte ga-z170 gaming 6 ram-2x8gb corsair vengeance @2400 psu- evga 600b case-phanteks enthoo pro (white) and nzxt hue+ for led effectz ssd-1 samsung 850 evo 250gb, 1 transcend 480gb
I spent £1000 on my PC back in July 2012. It came with: I7 3770 Asus Maximus V gene micro atx motherboard Gtx 670 Gain ward GPU 16gb 1600mhz custom CPU cooler zalman z11 plus case 1tb WD Black drive This was my first build. I gave it to my brother for producing videos and animations and it's still going today with no needs to upgrade except the GPU is a MSI 960 and it has an ssd which was bought shortly after in 2012 which is a Samsung 830. Runs all new titles on max settings 1080p and runs the Adobe master collection without a hiccup. Just depends what you buy and don't think about "future proofing" it, just upgrade parts here and there if really needed and it'll be fine. This PC is on nearly all the time and has no fault either.
Futureproofing sort of made sense back when we had 5 to 7 year console cycles. The consoles would ensure proper optimizations for weaker systems for the whole duration of their life cycle. I built a PC around Core 2 Duo E6300 1,8GHz@3GHz, 2GB RAM and a 8800 GTX 768MB at the time when PS3 was released and it was a beast, didn't need a single upgrade for 5 years, played Crysis 1 through 3 with no issues.
I made a pc in February of 2012 and my budget was $1250: i5 2500 (non k since I didn't want to pay an extra $20...now I wish I did), Fatality p67 mobo, 8 gb DDR3 1333 CAS 5, Zotac GTX 560 Ti 448 (a 570), Cougar case, CD player, Gemini Heatsink, Black 1 Terabyte HD, and a very nice 850 watt XFX Gold PSU that was $200. It was my first build and still doesn't feel old, only the GPU is outdated.
I built my current rig in 2012 too, tho I only upgraded CPU and board then to an i7-3820 (now a 4930k) and a GA X79-UD5 board with 16 GB of RAM. It set me back about 600 Euros (~800 USD back then) as it was and it is still good enough for 4k gaming thanks to PCI Express 3.0. I would rather buy the higher workstation socket boards if you are aiming at future proofing, if you are NOT starting from scratch.
Bought a PC just like this back in 2011, it is still pretty capable. I have swapped out my gtx 570 for a gtx 970 though. With my CPU OC:ed to around 4,2 GHz I still get 60+fps with GTA 5 maxed out (unless near grass) :)
I'd say this was more of a mid-range build for 2012. Graphics card is a gen behind for the time period and 4GB is a pretty small amount as any decent motherboard at the time was designed around a tripple channel ram kit, which would usually be a 16GB kit. My i7-3820 build from the time is still going strong and I really haven't even had that much motivation to upgrade the GPU as my 670 is still playing everything just fine.
Useful video, thanks. Here's a riddle: 18 months ago I bought a GTX 960 for around $400 NZD. It has served me well and still is running strong. If I wish to upgrade to play the current and next gen of games at very high settings, I'll need to get either a GTX 1060 (not much of an upgrade) or a GTX 1070 and at ~$700 NZD that's a price I simply can't justify. I would have been better forking out $600 for a GTX 970 or even the $800 GTX 980 back then because to upgrade now would be flushing the cost of the 960 down the drain (except what I may get second hand. Lets face it, nobody is going to pay a premium for a mid range second hand GPU when there are plenty of new and second hand deals to be had. I wouldn't expect to get much more than $100 for it. So, "future proofing" may be a term that's thrown around a bit and usually in the wrong context. I prefer the phrase "do it once, do it right".
Less than 5 years ago, I bought PC around that (1200$) price. Here's the specs: MB: GA-Z77-UD5H CPU: Intel i5 2500k GPU: AMD HD7870 RAM: Patriot IXM 16GB (4x4) 2133MHz PSU: CM Silent Pro M2 720W HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB Case: Thermaltake Overseer It holds up even today, I can play almost every game on Ultra settings, 30+ fps.
I don't know if you read the comments but I think it would be cool if you revisited this system with 8GB of RAM and overclock on the GPU and CPU. You know the CPU could do at least 4.2GHz and the GPU could probably be bumped up a bit as well. Just fun to see how these systems run. Really goes to show how cheap PC gaming can be.
Double the Ram an put a modern GPU in it an its still a beast
Yep, I have an i5 2500k (not oc) with a gtx 780 and 16gb of ram and can run all new games with at least 60fps at 1080p.
4 gigs of memory and a 1050ti would be awesome.
Agree....upgrading the gpu, this pc can still live for another 3-4 years.... at least.
It'd be ok but an extra 4 gigs would definitely improve it.
#Oh yes with a GTX1060 3/6Go more on his ass you get a very powerfull rig,
For 1200$ in 2012 I think you could get a 2600K and 8GB of ram. I remember 8gb of decent HyperX ddr3 costing less than 100$ at that time.
more like 16 gb ram
Even in 2012, who thought 4gb would be future proof?
And a GTX 570 that was already 2 years old in 2012?
4gb doesn't cut it anymore, new games need at least 6
Dizzee Yeah
I bought a 16GB ddr3 1600 kit in 2012 for $65 canadian so I don't know why this system has only 4gb
I bought 64Gb RAM in 2013 (lol i paid less than $300 back then for it) and though "will it be sufficient amount in 3-5 years from now?". It seems it is so far. Sadly it's DDR3 and i won't be able to get new CPU wunning with that RAM.
Future Proofing does not usually mean making a PC last 5 years. It simply means getting parts that make sense for the future. Like a motherboard that supports M.2 even if you don't intend on using it right away. Or not populating all your RAM slots and getting larger RAM sticks right off the bat so you don't need to toss out the old ones. Or if you intend to upgrade the GPU at some point, get a quality PSU. Or if you intend on getting a more powerful CPU, get a mobo that supports CPU's out of your price rage. Ect.
Cyberdyne exactly
Cyberdyne a lot of people don't understand that buying the expensive thing and leaving it in for 5 years is the console mindset. Like you said you future proof with features and upgrade options.
Buying 4Gigs of ram was "future proofing" in 2007, not in 2012...
My 2009 pc that I still sadly use today, only has 3 gigs of ram...
joe nodden lmao dude same
joe nodden Lmao. Dude, mine from 2008 has 2 gb ram and a 512 mb graphics card. I now eagerly await the sweet embrace of death.
My PC from 2006 has 2GB, it's a $600 prebuilt!
Rodolphe Fouquet I absolutely agree. I don't see how this was "future proof" at all, even if it was built in 2012.
If you have this system: add another 4GB of RAM and a 1060 and you're set for the next 3 years
GamingMutt Pros that's a bit of a stretch. I don't know if 8gigs of ram and a 1060 is quite 3 years
aelorth That might be true you know... but I forgot I'm a nerd who plays his games @ 720p medium-low settings...
hd 7970 is a 5 year old card that plays around the gtx 1050ti level can still play games today.
but the 1060 i hardly doubt it will last since its nvidia... you know they gimp their old cards so they dont last. AMD keeps it playing until its dead.
GamingMutt Pros I have this CPU OCed @ 4.4ghz, 8 gigs of ram and a RX 480. I feel like I'm bottlenecked in some games
***** its competing with titan x pascal with all the benchmarks out 1080 gets creamed... stats wise its the closest to titan xp
Just upgrade the ram and GPU when you have the cash. Boom. 1080p gaming machine.
Just $200
buy 1050ti and 4gb more ram, easy 1080p
TheJungled | Scary stuff
Exactly. That CPU made it pretty futureproof imho. And I'm an AMD guy. The 2500K still holds up really well for modern gaming. You could even slap at 1060 or 480 in there and it would run a charm. With added ram, as you and I said. You'd be fine for two years before needing to upgrade the CPU imho.
i have a i5-2500k @ 3,3ghz, from 2012, i just upgraded my gpu from a gtx 550ti to a gtx 1070 last year, all the games work like a charm. cant really complain about anything.
SonicFreak77 Can you spot any bottleneck in perfomance? I have 4th gen cpu and I'm considering buying a 1000 series card
lel i have a old i7 pc with 10 gb ram
This PC > My PC
R I P my life
is not possible same
ur pc < my ps4
Homeless Emperor hahaha very funny
Homeless Emperor Haha console peasent
Radziecki Opiekacz Do Dzieci ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) ur just jelous cus u don't have a ps4
Intel still hasnt made anything better than a 2500k
Just slap an RX480 on it and it will run for another 5 years.
Which i happily did.
they have, 6600k/7600k now have 35% better ipc
More like 5-10% better
And mostly just because DDR4
And also not that easy to overclock.
Who would notice the difference is the point of his argument. If I were blinded of which PC has a i7 2700k and a i7 6700k, I wouldn't notice
No more like 35%
Captain Katawa depends. some nowadays games are very cpu intensive, take hitman 2016 by example. with a gtx 1080 your i5 would do ~40 fps max. with a 7th gen i7, would go more than 120 fps. arma is another example of this, and list goes on.
My current set up today. i5 2500k not overclocked, 8 gb of ram and a RX 470 ASUS STRIX OC = beast.... for gaming today. The only thing I have upgraded as the years have gone by is my GPU. Before the RX 470 I was using the legendary HD 7950 ICEQ turbo.
5 years later "lets rebuilt this shitty pc from 2016" feturnig old shitty gtx 1080, i7 6700k, and only 16 gb ram memory" :D
i7 7700k*
MarioTheGamer 2016 not 2017 :D
Ok sorry :D
by then low wend will be 256gb
MarioTheGamer I forgive you my child, be gone now :D
Why was the RAM only 4GB? 8GB was very cheap even in 2012
Change the gpu to a 7970 and add 4 more gigs of ram then there you go.
Ban Ashrack best GPU of 2012
or an r9 290
philipp laufenberg 7970 came out in 2011
why a GTX 570? The HD 7970 was way more prominent and "future proof" than the 570, even at that price. Even in 2012 most "future proof" PCs had more than 4gb of RAM, hell mine came prebuilt with 6GB DDR3 at 500 dollars in 2011
Yeah, my build that I will be upgraded this summer had 8GB RAM, i5 3570K, 128GB SSD and a HD7870 and I paid around that price as well on Summer 2012 (I build it myself thou).
Seems like the build shown in this video was just an average build for that time and/or overpriced for its parts.
4gb ram for that time was not even near future proof. My budget pc at 2012 with pentium g850 has 4gb ddr3 ram while my gaming laptop which I bought in 2012 has 8 GB.
lol i had 16 gb of ram since 2012 and thats never failed me
I really truly love your channel and videos that you put out. It's just a great concept, with great details. Always entertaining, and informative. Thanks a lot!
Still seems to out-do current gen consoles
Daniel MacPherson yeah it's amazing how many PCs actually do haha
RandomGaminginHD Can I actually buy one pc like this now between 300$-350$? My laptop is 4 years old, runs some 2013 games and is dying, so I need a quick replacement and my current budget is like 300-400$...
Daniel MacPherson the current gen came out only one year later than this hardware
Blaze It I would suggest the core I3 system with a GTX 1050 TI and that would allow you to play most games on at least High
it costed 800$ more and is one year older than a current gen console
In 2014, upgraded to 8 GB of RAM
In 2016, upgraded to RX 470
It still would be relevant today.
Ey!
Dont say i5-2500k is old!
Its decent CPU still man!
Its not that old .
ark.intel.com/pl/products/52210/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_70-GHz
You don't seem to make sense. Just because it's still powerful doesn't mean it's not old.
the one has nothing to do with the other. The CPU might still be decent but it came out 4 years ago, so it can be called old since that is a relative long time in pc hardware scale
decent not so much, more like legendary
+Marc Wessel, actually the 2500k is almost 6 years old now, since 4 years ago I already had my 3570k for half a year. And yeah, old and outdated aren't synonyms ofc.
Its so nice seeing this channel blossoming so mutch :))
If you had used a AMD GPU from the same price range and age, you would have seen better performance due to Fine Wine Technology ;)
So literally just set it to ps4 settings and you still get better frame rates lol.
Gonna use this to the idiots who say you need to upgrade a PC every year for it to compete with consoles lol.
did you forget all the other benefits of a PC?
Pc master race... sorry but it's true. Consoles go out of date just as fast.
consoles don't go out of date until their replacement arrives. most devs target consoles, which allows PCs as powerful (or more) than the consoles to stay relevant for longer. and i love that.
back in the 90's a 2 year old pc was utter garbage that couldn't even think about running the lastest stuff. now we can make do with pcs almost 10 years old.
GraveUypo what I'm saying is consoles don't get many updates. The games become better graphics wise, so most consoles run at low to high settings at 30-60 fps nearing the end of their life span
GraveUypo Consoles don't go out of date fast? I remember last gen, the xbox 360 started having huge performance issues in most modern games, even way before the xbox one came
We make fun of the whole 30 fps thing now, but I was lucky if that shitty thing could even reach 30 in these games
change the gpu and it will continue to be a beast
and a bit more ram would help
Nikke 2800 yup, 16gb i guess. an oced 2500k performs almost equally to the 3570k - 4690k
Probably add in 4GB of RAM as well.
yes 4gb is not optimal for some games.
and quadruple the amount of RAM
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that 2500k is still rock solid (,especially overclocked)
4gigs of ram in 2012? That wouldn't have been future proof at all, back then 8gb was already the norm.
I enjoy your videos. No fluff and straight to the point
It pisses me off seeing gta v run well on this pc because i can't play it on my more modern pc due to the memory leak issue -_-
NuclearOnion same as me...my old 960t can play flawlessly, but my Xeon x5650 stuttering like crazy.
Yup, its fine for like 30min but after that i only have like 200mb of ram left and it stutters like fuck
***** Cpu and gpu are not the problem. Its just the game keeps consuming more and more ram untill it starts using the pagefile so it begins to stutter.
NuclearOnion are you playing on steam or rockstar
ChrisCrossAppleSauce Steam
Gtx 980 | I7 4790k @ 4.0 ghz (going to overclock in future, but I only have stock cooler rn) | 16 gb ddr3 ram 1600mhz | 3 tb hard drive (i'm getting an ssd sometime in the future) | ASRock h97m pro4 mobo | EVGA 750w 80+ gold psu | Corsair 100r tower
I plan to keep this until early 2019 at least, and then I may just upgrade gpu and keep it for even longer.
You're good with that CPU for god only knows how long, especially if you're yet to OC, unless you want high refresh rate stuff. Yeah, keep upgrading your GPU until the CPU bottlenecks then put your next upgrade money into a higher res monitor to alleviate the bottleneck ;)
same system except gtx 1080, and 120gb ssd and 1tb hdd....
You should add Minecraft as one of the test games for your computers.
Bragtime Why? That shitty game will run on anything these days.
minecraft can run on a win2k setup so
why?
Might as well also test 3d Pinball Space Cadet for Windows XP.
What about Pong?
not the latest version. lol try it.
My future proof from 2010 (in the same case as your) still plays everything. I only upgraded the video card with a single step up when it died. :) If done properly a front end investment will carry you quite happily into the future! Good video.
very good topic. The whole idea of "future proofing" a system use to be tossed around a lot. Good to see someone put it through the test.
I get 55-65 fps on gta v on my old q9550 ,with 1050 ti .8gb ram on high settings
The_dude Get a better cpu for 50$ more bucks and you'll have the best experience.
Yea saving up for new motherboard.cpu.ram kit.
The_dude Thats good for .8GB RAM.
Andrew Balajka lmao yeah
i just ditched my 3gb vram gtx 580 and q9550 for a 6700k and 1070
I bought my PC last year which has an i7 6700, 12Gb RAM, 128Gb SSD, 1Tb HDD, and a GTX 980, Windows 10, so I should be good till 2020.
wolverine your bank account won't be though
wolverine Well, you should have gone for a 980ti, which can be bought for like 250 US Dollars. Similar prices I have seen for the 980, which means that it still has a fucked up price/performance ratio, considering the fact that its performance can be achieved by a 970 if overclocked. In conclusion, with a 980ti you would have 1070 performance for a similar price. It may does not sound like there would be a big difference, but there is. While a 980ti/1070 can run all games on Ultra/1080p with at least 60fps, the 1060/980 as well as the rx480/rx580 and 970 strugle to maintain such performance.
Whats the game in the beginning?
fr3fou It's called Wrack
This is the best new channel. You're doing great work man!
Hope you're gonna grow faster and be able to do it full time.
Wow....nice vid! The gtx 570, one of my favorite gpu, it costs 30€ and has nice preformance! I' ve used it on my budget build for my friend and he is verry happy! Keep it up!
Future proof also means upgradability
With all due respect, how could you name 'futureproof' a PC with 4 gigabytes of RAM? That was the common amount in '12, and you could be sure that future games will need more, heck, even '12 games like SWTOR had a hard time playing on 4GB (mass PvP on Ilum...). 4GB I had in my system (not considered to be a 'futureproof') in early 2009.
My 'futureproof' from late '12: 3570K, 660Ti, 32GB RAM, Vertex3 SSD.
( I know I went overboard, but my motto is: you can never have too much RAM! Playing games from ramdisk is the way to go :) )
With only SSD change - due to infamous Vertex bricking - I could play quite decently until now, and even now, the only thing I have upgraded is the GPU).
Rule 1 of future-proofing:
Don't buy an Nvidia card.
No such thing as future proofing as far as videos cards go anyway, Nvidia or AMD.
+danimayb Nvidia is significantly worse when it comes to longevity of their cards. This trend has been going on for well over 5 years now. If an Nvidia and AMD card are competitive at launch, a couple years later the AMD card tends to outperform the Nvidia card by 15%, sometimes even 20%. Especially the GCN cards from AMD have aged amazingly well.
prodigy84bg I dunno, I bought my 2 980tis in 2015 and coupled with my i7 4790k they wreck the shit out of every game on the market, always ultra and usually in 4k. 2 years down the line and my Nvidia cards are doing ok so far and I expect they will for a while yet. I had an amd 7990 previously with an fx8350 and I can confirm that was a total heap of shit and a constant pain in the arse due to amds awful handling of drivers which they still don't win any prizes for now. At the time I upgraded amd had only released 2 official drivers in the previous 24 months! Great choice....
Niosus I agree. I've seen many screen shots posted online about nvidia driver updates actually nerfing older cards, the opposite is true about AMD. AMD tends to make their cards run better with each new driver update.
Exactly nvidia drivers really just suck after the next series comes out i feel like they tank performance to try to force an upgrade. Also they are just less powerful from a tflops stand point.
Another great and informative video. Well done and keep the good work.
Been watching your channel for a few months now, and I appreciate that you consider 30-40 FPS as a playable FPS. lol, good work on the videos, keep 'em coming.
Upgraded my similar setup with a 1070 8gb, 16gb more ram (24 gb total) and overclocked my i5 2500k to 4.5ghz and it runs pretty much anything on ultra over 60fps
Da Gr8 Poddini why so much ram?
Why not?
Diplodookus That's how you truly future proof, even if he bought two stick of 8gb ram 16gb would be sufficient for the next 5 years I'd say.
I bought myself a 16gb stick(corsair vengeance) when I upgraded , that way all I have to do if I ever need more ram again is to get another stick instead of just two or have to get rid of an older one.. Etc..
yea but the thing is that this i5 was discontinued 4 years ago. By the time 24gb is useful this i5 wouldn't do nothing anymore. This is just a waste of money i'm trying to say.
Diplodookus not really
Honest to god, so much BS in this video and no sense ...
I used Asus Striker II Extreme till half a year ago with a Q9550 overclocked from 2.7 to 4.3ghz and it could run even GTA V with 60 fps on medium+ settings along with a 760gtx.
I bought that computer nonetheless 9 years ago!
Not to mention I could still upgrade the graphic card, run SLI or increase my ram from 8gb to 16gb.
Only reason I decided to upgrade is because of the release of DDR4 which run on 3200mhz (over my old 2000mhz) and overall Sata 3/m2.
My current setup is Maximus VIII Extreme with 32GB 3200mhz and i7 6700k, I expect this system to last for AT LEAST 8 more years, with upgrading my GPU only once in the future and maybe add an M2 when price drop (currently 1070 with 512 SSD)
I5 2500k is bae
I love this type of video, it really helps people figure out how much to resonibly spend on a system.
I must say this setup has been helped by the lack of development in recent years I remember about 5 years ago this was not the case as performance was literally doubling with each generation in both CPU and GPU land. nicely done video.
Yet again an nvidia gimped GPU lmao.
If it was a radeon one it'd been much better
HellFire
you really hate NVIDIA right?
Shadow-knight They aren't a company that deserves love for what they do to customers
HellFire
Personally i don't give a fuck, as long as the product is top quality with a good price, i give no shit about who is behind it, i saw the AMD cores, i didn't like them so i stick with Intel
I'm buying a Gigabyte GTX 1060 6GB for my new PC,
Shadow-knight Dont buy a 1060 for the love of god
HellFire
Why? I saw what its capable of doing and i like it
My $666 pc can run mini sweeper on 20FPS
No. GTX570 is just a rebrand of GTX470 ad 2010 card. 2012 was GTX670.
Ikr, like I already had my 660 Ti back then, which is essentially a 670 with only a 192 bit wide memory interface (instead of 256).
and gtx 670s are £45 now
Squidel AT ...and I am glad that is sold mine in time for still around 185€ (about 160£) less than 4 years ago.
Lukas Dürrwang i had 2 until recently, still a good buy on a budget
Orjon Zaganjori early 2012
As "Future Proof" builder myself, I really enjoyed the video. I built my future proof build back in late 2012 and it still handles everything I throw at it very well. These are the specs of my build:
Corsair Obsidian 650D case
Gigabyte Z77x-UD3H
i5 3570K 3.4 GHZ (not overclocked)
32GB DDR3 RAM
128GB SSD
2TB SATA 3 HDD
GTX 660 ti 2GB OC Edition
Blu-Ray drive
All of that for about $1250 USD at the time.
I have thought about buying a new GPU but everything else seems okay to me even after almost 5 years.
Great ideas deserve immediate thumps up!
how is this future proof? i built my PC 2012 too and it only cost 1100 Dollars and is still able to run modern Games on Medium
lol medium
Its a fucking 2012 PC... Medium is really good for this. I play Medium 60FPS and I am able to stream 720p60
lol 720p
You know you can only stream with 720p on Twitch when you are not partnered?
lol not partnered
whats that doom clone you are playing at the end and beginning?
Wrack
***** thanks, it looks like fun
its weird to to think that now we have the gtx 1080, in 7-8 years that card will be the equivalent to a gtx 680ti and a 6 core i7 would be the equivilent to an old amd athlon
british vlogger7 and gta v will be considered a classic, :/
_cl0wn It already is
I have a 2009 PC and i did 3 things to it , changed GPU to a GTX 950 OC from MSI,putted 4 gb extra RAM and added a 128GB SSD to it.
It still lives strong. Runs GTA V Multiplayer at Medium- High ( didnt try further) Battlefield, Fallout Skyrim , CS GO
Of course its not as good as a top pc nowdays, but i see no reason to exchange it so far, and it has been my daily working/gaming machine.
Current Specs:
Q9550 2.83GHZ @3.2Ghz
10GB Ram
Samsung Evo 128GB SSD
1TB HDD
GTX 950 OC
Win 10 + Linux Mint
27" Full HD Monito
The most longlasting computer i've build was definetly this. My Pentium 4 3.0 had few years as well but with 8 years it would feel very slow and sluggish. This one i dont feel any need to update and im a heavy user.
Cheers
After watching this, I suddenly remembered that I built this PC in 2011. I bought my parts during a Black Friday sale, so I got better parts for less money, only really recycled my PSU (totaled just under $1000). The only changes since the initial build have been upgrading the video card (which only really happened last year) and replacing some faulty RAM. It's served me quite well, and still tackles high-end games with ease. I'm only just starting to see signs that it's beginning to be outpaced, so I built a new PC about a month ago (just under $800, but I'm planning on putting a GTX 1070 in at some point). As the video demonstrated, there's nothing wrong with putting in quality parts to have peace of mind for years to come (if it's in your budget). I'm certainly happy with the investment. This machine still runs beautifully, and I have no plans to get rid of it until it finally shows that it can't keep up. I'd give it another couple of years, at least. If it can make it all the way to 2021, and I made a decade full decade with this machine, I'll know I did a good job with the build.
Game at 0:16 ?
Wrack
this "future proofing" your pc is stooooopid
when console people say " 🤓🤓 oh yeah, well atleast we don't gotta upgrade every year"
lol can the ps3 run the Witcher 3?
watch dogs 2?
yeah.. of course not, I don't know where I'm going with this.. just wanted to point it out
jose corona "MY XB1 RUNS GTA AT 20FPS ON LOW 900p"
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Ps3 is like 12years old lmao what 12year old pc runs witcher 3
so Manlet, that's not the point....
The funny thing is, even though I'm a PC player and the PS4 have both Witcher 3 and Watch Dogs 2, and the console can be picked up used for about 160 pounds. The PS4 is only one year older then this computer and if we're comparing retail prices, the PS4 is still under half of the price of this computer in 2012. So, get your facts right and use fair comparisons.
well, future proof isnt that hard, 7700k and titan xp is kinda fur´ture proof :/
Brot Zockt kaby lake is not worth it
But future proof
That isn't future proof. Nvidia and AMDs next GPUs are supposed to be a lot more powerful than current gen, and Intel hasn't even released a CPU worth upgrading to since the 4th generation so sooner or later they'll release something really good
Well its the most future proof thing right now
It is worth for Arma players like me who need a very high single core clock speed for good fps.
I just bought a five year old Lenovo tower with the same processor in it and upgraded it with parts I had laying around. $109 for it, it had no hard drive, 4 gigs of RAM, and a measly 230 watt power supply. I swapped the power supply with a 500 watt, pulled the RAM out and put 16 gigs in it's place, put in an Asus GTX 750 TI, and a two terabyte spinning drive. With the exception of the $60 hard drive, I had all those parts laying around from a budget build I had based on the g3258. The motherboard was going out in that one. I got a huge bump in performance for about the same cost that it would have been to replace the motherboard in my previous system. Very happy with that five year old processor.
As an old git that hasnt built a pc in 20 years and really wants to, im loving your channel mate.
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the moment you see the specs...
and you have a 2500k and a 560ti
Marvin Schnabel You still can play pretty good games at 30-35 fps on medium in most games (discard withcher 3 on low settings )
I have a 2400 and a 560ti lol. Still plays modern games well, I'm thinking of getting a 1050 this year tho.
this year is 10 days old^^
I can't watch it yet 😒
Jamal Crawssover i can't watch it too
molika Channel I don't know why but it only happens on HIS videos.
Working for me, but only 720p and 1080p available so far.
Jamal Crawssover should be fully processed soon, happens sometimes for some reason
RandomGaminginHD it's fine. I'll just watch it later. Great contents so far man, keep it up.
100k subs congrats man
The best way to "future proof" a system, is to build one that is designed for upgrading. If you are on a budget, then avoid things like hard line liquid cooling or cases where the goal is to achieve a certain look with a specific set of hardware. Instead, puck a case, power supply, cooling system, and storage that can last you through a number of builds. Since processing technology is always improving, you cannot future proof in that area, but you can take steps now to reduce the cost of future upgrades.
Since I do not like SLI and crossfire (annoying driver issues), I have stuck with a 650 watt power supply, that I spent $80 on a number of years ago. The power supply has lasted me through many upgrades, as well as the case, and cooling system, Thus the bulk of my upgrades simply centered around the motherboard, CPU, and GPU (and with a recent move to skylake, the RAM also.
Is it only me who seems to realise everyone in this groups doesn't really understand computers, sees 1060's as god like think i5 2400's are still 'decent' CPU >_
they're still alright, although the K series is really what you need
i5 was never good
I5 what? There are about a million I5's out there? the newer I5's are great...
still nothing compared to an i7
This is from a budget gamer’s perspective. The i5’s are okayish today, and 1060’s are monsters
Bought the 2500k overclocked it to over 5GHz right out of the box and hadn't had any issues with it since then. This cpu is still good for gaming. I was still using it until about 2 months ago when I picked up an x79 motherboard and a e5 2670 for $100 total. It collecting dust atm but the side grade allowed me to do streaming and youtube.
Should've tested some 2012 games too! Cool vid!
Built my PC almost 6 years ago for $1600 USD. Specs were: Antec 900 case, Kingwin 1000w gold rated PSU, EVGA P67 FTW mobo, Intel 2600k CPU, EVGA cooler, G-skill? 8GB 1366MHZ DDR3 RAM, EVGA GTX 570 (later 2 way SLI), 120GB SSD + 500GB HDD, Samsung BD drive, LG DVD RW drive. Four years ago upgraded to the EVGA GTX 680, added 16 GB 1600MHZ DDR3 ram and a 500GB SSD drive. Had the CPU @ 4hgz and no issues with any of the hardware. It still gets the job done.
I have a system I bought in 2009 or 10 & I still haven't maxed out it's capabilities. I've upgraded once. Went from 4 to 8GB RAM, 2 core to 4 core (AMD) and from a radeon 5670 1GB to a gtx 760 2GB. It has an aftermarket cooler & does a nice auto-overclock that usually ends up around a 20% boost. I don't need to be at "epic" settings to enjoy the games but it can do that on some modern games. It can still handle a 6 core Phenom II, 16 GB of Ram and 2 video cards if needed so I'd say I did well.
What i took from the experience is that it pays to do a little research and pay the extra money for a higher end motherboard.
My $1300 PC from 2012 Is still going strong. Only swaped my 770 2GB for a 970 4GB last year. Also added an extra 8GB of RAM this past fall. Still rocking my i5 3570K and Z77 MoBo though. Running GTA V at 1440p/mostly High Settings/60fps.
awesome vid! I've got the 2500k, and its a beast! I've oced it to 4.5ghz!
Been playing on this setup for a few years now, I recently got a gtx 1070 and it still rocks.
Probably sli when I upgrade the whole pc again to get all of its juice.
love your videos man, so informative.
You went from 50k subs to almost 80k subs in about a month. It only feels like yesterday you were at 50k
I love these then and now builds
I built a PC 2012 with a 3770k on a Z77 chipset and Corsair H60 Watercooling, a Gigabyte GTX 670 Windforce OC, 128gb ssd + 1tb 7200rpm hdd and damn it could play most todays games on high still, if its badly optimized maybe on medium.
I exchanged the 670 with a EVGA 1070 GTX FTW and most games now run on ultra again, very smooth on my 144 hz monitor. And I think I'll still keep it several years.
I have a 1000 euro "future proof" rig myself. An i7 875k. I changed the GPU 4 years ago from a HD5770 to a GTX 660 and it runs modern games well. A tip about witcher, turning the post processing off helps really A LOT, A LOT, A LOT. I cringe at gamers recommending buying another GTX 660 to SLI, when just turning AA and all postprocessing but bloom off brought me to 40-50 fps at 1080p. Try it on this rig, the GTX 660 is only a little bit faster than the 570 so it should boost the fps.
Quantum Break runs at 35-40 fps in low, and this is a game that GTX 1080 owners cry over because it does not run at 60 fps even in 1080p maxed out on a 1080. Doom runs about 50 fps average on medium. Everything at 1080p. To be honest through, I feel the best way to future proof is to buy a PC with a stronger CPU than the GPU, as you can upgrade it then by just buying another graphics card. To boot, my CPU is overclockable, so if I am ever needy for CPU power, I can get some for free.
I think the introduction of the core i series was the last big leap in computing power we saw. Even one youtuber who vigoriously argued against old gen i3s, i5s and i7s started his video with "THIS IS FOR 120 Hz MONITOR OWNERS, IF YOU HAVE A 60 Hz ONE YOUR CPU IS STILL GOOD".
My system that is 5 years old is still a beast and a console killer, its no where near as beefy as todays systems but i'm running a i7 2600, 2tb HD, 16gb of ram and a GTX580 which at the time was one of the best cards you could buy. I live in Australia so it was a little bit more expensive at $1800, it still played all the recent games at a decent fps.
Finally caved in and upgraded my video card to a gtx 1060 6gb and now can play most games at high or ultra at avg 75 fps, I'm really happy with my purchase and wont be upgrading for another year or 2.
So in 5 years the only thing that really showed its age was the video card, everything else is holding out really well, I also recently bought a Noctua DH15 because the stock cooler was getting a bit hot, replaced the cooler and thermal paste now my system barely gets over 50c
I built my PC on February 2012, and still to this day I use it as my gaming PC, still a beast running all games medium-high settings at 1080p. I will probably upgrade my beloved R7970 Lightning this year when Vega comes out.
I know no one will read this but when you wanna future proof, you go mid gen, like when Devs figure out "the power" of the console, then it sets the standard for about 6-7 years also that I5 2500K is still golden even today can play 60fps nicely OC'd I mean I still have an I7 2600K, and it doesnt really bottleneck my 1070 at all, just sayin boi, also throw another 4 gig stick in there and that PC is still nice, I mean besides the whole 2gb of vram, I mean its better than my old 750Ti in a lot of ways, that thing is a good ass PC, Also good job! Keep it up britbong!
5 years. Going for that long. I would future-proof mine.
I just did a similar thing for my 7 year old son to game on with me - i5 2360, gts 450, 4gb ram, 128gb sdd , 500gb hdd, old case, win 7 licence from an old laptop - £128 all in and its gets 40-60 fps on gta5 benchmark at medium /1080! Pretty damn pleased!
I built an $800 PC in January 2013. Feels like it was so long ago, hard to believe it was only four years. Anyway, point is, I built it, my first build, had NO idea what I was doing, and it still runs everything except Arma 3 with zero issues. I run most games at much higher settings than I expect it will handle. So, I think future-proofing is a good concept. My next build will be done with this in mind and I am pretty friggin amped about the prospect of building a PC now that I actually understand what I'm doing.
I built a 2500k, gtx 570 and p67 rig in 2011 but I sure as hell got 8gb of ram! I also upgraded like 4 times since then but it's nice to see this holding in there! just a ram and gpu upgrade away from playing Witcher 3 @ 60fps
For me, the idea of futureproofing is just about finding that value for money spot where you spend enough to get a great gaming experience and not having to worry about upgrades too soon or overexpending, and that's usually in the ballpark of the 1000$, where you get a beast of a PC without the overpricing of the highest tier components and yet, as you showed, be up and running years later.
just built my first pc back in august, hopefully will last 5+ years.
cpu- i7 6700k
gpu-asus rog strix 1070
moba-gigabyte ga-z170 gaming 6
ram-2x8gb corsair vengeance @2400
psu- evga 600b
case-phanteks enthoo pro (white)
and nzxt hue+ for led effectz
ssd-1 samsung 850 evo 250gb, 1 transcend 480gb
Gotta say, I love your chan!
I spent £1000 on my PC back in July 2012. It came with:
I7 3770
Asus Maximus V gene micro atx motherboard
Gtx 670 Gain ward GPU
16gb 1600mhz
custom CPU cooler
zalman z11 plus case
1tb WD Black drive
This was my first build. I gave it to my brother for producing videos and animations and it's still going today with no needs to upgrade except the GPU is a MSI 960 and it has an ssd which was bought shortly after in 2012 which is a Samsung 830. Runs all new titles on max settings 1080p and runs the Adobe master collection without a hiccup. Just depends what you buy and don't think about "future proofing" it, just upgrade parts here and there if really needed and it'll be fine. This PC is on nearly all the time and has no fault either.
Futureproofing sort of made sense back when we had 5 to 7 year console cycles. The consoles would ensure proper optimizations for weaker systems for the whole duration of their life cycle. I built a PC around Core 2 Duo E6300 1,8GHz@3GHz, 2GB RAM and a 8800 GTX 768MB at the time when PS3 was released and it was a beast, didn't need a single upgrade for 5 years, played Crysis 1 through 3 with no issues.
I made a pc in February of 2012 and my budget was $1250: i5 2500 (non k since I didn't want to pay an extra $20...now I wish I did), Fatality p67 mobo, 8 gb DDR3 1333 CAS 5, Zotac GTX 560 Ti 448 (a 570), Cougar case, CD player, Gemini Heatsink, Black 1 Terabyte HD, and a very nice 850 watt XFX Gold PSU that was $200. It was my first build and still doesn't feel old, only the GPU is outdated.
I built my current rig in 2012 too, tho I only upgraded CPU and board then to an i7-3820 (now a 4930k) and a GA X79-UD5 board with 16 GB of RAM. It set me back about 600 Euros (~800 USD back then) as it was and it is still good enough for 4k gaming thanks to PCI Express 3.0. I would rather buy the higher workstation socket boards if you are aiming at future proofing, if you are NOT starting from scratch.
Bought a PC just like this back in 2011, it is still pretty capable. I have swapped out my gtx 570 for a gtx 970 though.
With my CPU OC:ed to around 4,2 GHz I still get 60+fps with GTA 5 maxed out (unless near grass)
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I'd say this was more of a mid-range build for 2012.
Graphics card is a gen behind for the time period and 4GB is a pretty small amount as any decent motherboard at the time was designed around a tripple channel ram kit, which would usually be a 16GB kit. My i7-3820 build from the time is still going strong and I really haven't even had that much motivation to upgrade the GPU as my 670 is still playing everything just fine.
Useful video, thanks. Here's a riddle: 18 months ago I bought a GTX 960 for around $400 NZD. It has served me well and still is running strong. If I wish to upgrade to play the current and next gen of games at very high settings, I'll need to get either a GTX 1060 (not much of an upgrade) or a GTX 1070 and at ~$700 NZD that's a price I simply can't justify. I would have been better forking out $600 for a GTX 970 or even the $800 GTX 980 back then because to upgrade now would be flushing the cost of the 960 down the drain (except what I may get second hand. Lets face it, nobody is going to pay a premium for a mid range second hand GPU when there are plenty of new and second hand deals to be had. I wouldn't expect to get much more than $100 for it.
So, "future proofing" may be a term that's thrown around a bit and usually in the wrong context. I prefer the phrase "do it once, do it right".
my same lg monitor, after 7 years it still rocks.
Got an oc'ed 2500K and an HD7950, with 8GB of Vengeance RAM. Still running pretty well.
Less than 5 years ago, I bought PC around that (1200$) price. Here's the specs:
MB: GA-Z77-UD5H
CPU: Intel i5 2500k
GPU: AMD HD7870
RAM: Patriot IXM 16GB (4x4) 2133MHz
PSU: CM Silent Pro M2 720W
HDD: WD Caviar Black 1TB
Case: Thermaltake Overseer
It holds up even today, I can play almost every game on Ultra settings, 30+ fps.
I don't know if you read the comments but I think it would be cool if you revisited this system with 8GB of RAM and overclock on the GPU and CPU. You know the CPU could do at least 4.2GHz and the GPU could probably be bumped up a bit as well.
Just fun to see how these systems run. Really goes to show how cheap PC gaming can be.