Why Did The Rams Abandon St Louis?
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- The Rams played in St Louis for over a decade, but why did they end up leaving? #nfl #rams #stlouis
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St Louis has had the misfortune of having some of the worst owners known to the NFL!
I agree
St Louis didn’t keep its promise
The rams didn’t either, they tanked the team on purpose for years.
St Louis promised the Rams a state of the art stadium at no cost to them and promised to keep it state of the art. If St Louis didn’t, the Rams were free to relocate without penalty. St Louis didn’t keep its promise to keep the Edward Jones Dome a state of the art stadium
@@1999bill1999 Yes, they did. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the Dome. The Cardinals left because they were fussy and greedy.
As a long-time St Louis Rams fan and former long-time resident, I don’t want the NFL back in STL. Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke can go to hell.
I think you guys deserve a team, but I get your perspective
As a sports fan I'm sure sick and tired of these obscenely rich owners wanting mostly public money to build their shiny new stadiums and arenas !!
Los Angeles is where the Rams belong. LA Rams sounds better. We missed our Rams for 21 years and I went my whole childhood without my team. They should have never left but the first Kim Kardashian named Georgia, took our team away. St. Louis should have a team, just not LA’s Rams.
You would have thought St. Louis would have gotten an expansion team.
As I remember, she took them to St. Louis because she was "sick and tired" of the Rams playing second fiddle to the Lakers in the one city where the NBA trumps the NFL and still does to this day.
@@WaltGekko what’s your point? Rams played 2nd fiddle to the Cardinals in St. Louis. Your take is null and void.
Why didn't la support them?
You left out all of the lies that Stan (mostly through his minion Kevin Demoff) told to St. Louis about their true intentions, and about St. Louis to everyone else (that they're "just a baseball team") and that the big lawsuit was based on the fact that the NFL ignored their own relocation policy to screw St. Louis - with the riverfront stadium plan, St. Louis did act in good faith to keep the team, unlike San Diego (who put a stadium on the ballot and it failed miserably) or Oakland (who did nothing to keep any of their teams). Further, the relocation policy - which was initially drafted following the league suing Al Davis for moving the Raiders to LA - is now considered an enforceable contract under Missouri state law as a result of this lawsuit. And to this day, they're still trying to figure out what to do with the money.
With regards to the BattleHawks, clearly the fans are motivated by the anti-NFL sentiment - and this is the only clear way they can demonstrate it. It also helps that the team has been good every season of its existence (3-2 in the 2020 XFL, 7-3 in the 2023 XFL, and 7-3 in the 2024 UFL). And it should be noted that many former Rams players have embraced the UFL and the BattleHawks, some even returning to St. Louis to coach the team.
These fans suffered through 12 straight years of losing with the Rams, including an NFL-worst 15-65 during a 5 year span (which, ironically, Cleveland matched by going winless one year).
Lastly, fuck Stan Kroenke and fuck anyone who bought his "St. Louis is just a baseball town" garbage. And... Ka-Kaw is the Law!
i dont like Kroenke.
The fact that he’s named after Stan Musial, just makes it even worse.
@@skidawg22 Stan The Man Kroenke. A man of honor and integrity
@@1999bill1999integrity 😂
This!
When rams moved to Anaheim they lost there fan base . The coliseum was in center of the city.
yep
The LA Coliseum had become outdated even by 1979 for an NFL Team and that was a big reason why the Raiders moved back to Oakland following the 1994 season. Even modified for USC football by the time the Rams returned in 2016, it was still a very outdated stadium. It was why they went to Anaheim.
They abandoned St. Louis for the same reason all professional sports franchises abandon a city…..greed of ownership.
yep
@FootballLoreOfficial do you just write generic responses? All your answers on here are one word replies that either agrees or laughs at what one says. You even human?
To quote Don Ohlmeyer, 'The answer to all your questions is 'money''.
lol
@@FootballLoreOfficial And you can say that about EVERY team move.
@@carlhicksjr8401 i know I've been doing a series about teams moving and it always comes down to a stadium
@@FootballLoreOfficial Not just the stadium, but also the sweetheart deal the city and state offer the owner.
I'm a Seahawks fan and I got a close look at this nonsense when Ken Behring [spit to the left] threatened to move the team to LA. There was some pretty sketchy 'midnight legislating' to get the team to stay. Then the Sonics fiasco hit. So yeah, up here we're pretty jaded about team owners.
Money talks, and football teams take a walk.
My dad grew up in LA, and said the Rams were the team to see if you wanted cheap tickets. He said only the Raiders really ruled LA which makes you wonder why they're in Vegas 🤔
@@sebastianbelcher5354 LA barely cared about the Raiders. Couldn’t even sell out a tarped up coliseum
yep
The Raiders were only allowed to do that because the Rams left Los Angeles County for Orange County.
Anaheim isn't LA
awesome video
Thanks for the visit
The city of St. Louis not Jacksonville Florida should’ve received the expansion team.
i agree
Yes because Florida has to many teams that don't do well and that team wants to move to England
@@richardharepax123That's BS!
STL effed up that NFL expansion bid, and that ship has sailed over thirty years ago. Get over it. If my aunt had some nads, she would be my uncle...
@@boogitybear2283 After the Rams debacle, I think St. Louis was about done with the NFL. 🤦♀️
I wish the Cardinals had stayed in Saint Louis. I really liked that the baseball and football teams had the same mascot.
me too
Also you forgot to add that kronke had to pay the city of stl over 700 million due to a lawsuit settlement.
I mentioned it at the end
Also you forgot to watch the entire video.
Rams belong in LA but SL should get an expansion team.
facts
The Oilers, Browns, Colts, Raiders moves feel justified compared to what the Rams did.
St. Louis would have eventually built them a stadium but the Rams wanted that LA Market money and the NFL was pushing to have the Rams move too. St. Louis never had a chance to keep them.
St Louis would have been a great city for an NFL team and they're not even interested anymore
In st Louis. The city had all concessions. The team only got part of the gate. The owner not only want a new stadium. He wanted some if not all the parking and concessions. Now he has 100% of all that plus a hotel and a big convention center. With more to build. St louis should have worked this out. They will never do that.
Yeah, they've lost two teams now.
Really, I think the Cardinals should have stayed in St. Louis and the Rams should have stayed in LA.
the cardinals fit perfectly, weird they decided to go be mediocre in Phoenix.
@@FootballLoreOfficial I don't think the Cardinals ownership have always acted in the team's best interest.
Saint louis probably doesn't want to deal with the nfl anymore, they've already been burned twice (cardinals & rams).
true
$$$ changes that immediately
They took the $800 million instead. STL will never get another NFL team in our lifetime because of that.
@@mreppen1 strong chance of one down the road. But I can see another Spirits deal
@@y2films well I’m 65. It’s going to be awhile.
The Jaguars team has been a struggling team most of its existence; wins havent came consistently until recently. For you to say that STL is a better NFL market than JAX is BS. Jacksonville has much more upside than St Louis; metro population growth, fast growing city, better political climate, and on and on
found the jaguars fan
A large part of the jags income is that they play at least one game a year out of the country. The NFL pays a lot for that.
@josephburke7224 It's not like the Jags are the only team that plays 'home games' in London. There are several teams that's getting that international loot
Why did the Cardinals LEAVE St Louis? thats a Video ?
yes?
We need a NBA team 💯
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I think it was because Los Angeles is too big a market to ignore forever. This means a team has to move to LA, or the league needs to expand. I don't think league owners wanted expansion. That leaves having a team move. Another problem is no one wants to play in the Coliseum anymore. It's too old and the area around it is not up to NFL standards. This means a new stadium is needed. But LA politics won't allow for taxpayers to pay for a new stadium. This means the team owner who moves needs to have the resources to make a new stadium happen. The Rams owner has the money and the Rams have their previous history in LA to build on. So they moved.
I think they definitely needed to come back to LA, but the Raiders Chargers and Rams all wanted back. They didn't have to let the Rams move back. I think Kroenke won the battle because he was willing to pay for his stadium.
I don't think the Chargers or the Raiders have the money for a new Stadium i heard that there were going to ask Goldman Sachs for money i still don't know how that going to work
This is easy to answer. The Rams doubled their market value by simply moving back to L.A. Also, SoFi stadium was as much a real estate development deal as a stadium deal. In other words, the numbers made sense to move.
Yeah
If you put something in a lease you have to abide by it. St Louis didn't do that and in my opinion shouldn't have a dime from the NFL or Stan cronky.
true
St. Louis is not getting a 3rd crack at the NFL.
i think so, if they expand to like 40 teams there arent big enough markets other than St Louis
St. Louis and San Antonio are next up
No Please....St. Louis does not want the NFL! I'm done with the NFL, St. louis has a great soccer team. Screw the NFL.
LOL
And Sexy Red
Why did the Cardinals abandon St Louis
I've made a video about it
The Rams abandoned Los Angeles. The Cardinals abandoned St. Louis.
yes
Dick Vermeli drafted Lawerence Phillips and traded Jerome Bettis
yes
Phillips had hall of fame talent but zero discipline. He was a beast in college but a complete bust in the NFL.
Phillips was drafted by Rich Brooks, who traded Bettis.
Vermeil was hired in Lars 2nd season and wanted to work with him but that didn't work out
Abandoned??? The rams just came back home to LA😂
lol
Ignore the video maker they don't care about facts just clicks
LA and The Rams are like PB&J I’m glad they came home. I cried when they left, I was ten. I cried when they came home and won the Superbowl in LA! WHOSE HOUSE?!
Well, they'll never root for the Chiefs... haters 😅
lol
Stan Kronke is notorious for being cheap and that’s why moving the Rams to LA was a huge mistake.
lol
@KadeemG61 how was he cheap when he footed the bill for the Sofi Stadium construction?
From the 32nd most valuable franchise in 2014 to the 2nd most valuable in 2024.
Yeah mistake
@@y2filmsI don’t see any logic in this.
Kaka
Growing upi in los angeles as kid 70/80 when the I always hear stories about my uncle and grandfather talking about the football games. When they got to see the rounds played back in the date when they went to To the coliseum to see and play That wasn't that1960 and 70s.
they belong in LA but i feel bad for St Louis
@@FootballLoreOfficial I know that feeling two
Crazy that the New England Patriots almost moved to St. Louis. Thank you Mr. Kraft.
lol not many people know that
kraft old fart kgated.
The Elephant in The Room is The Michael Brown Protesters hassling all the fans trying to go and watch a game, etc etc ,crime, and Lib Politics.
dam
Wrong... The Raiders have played in 3 cities
what? Rams moved 3 times bro
Also, the Cardinals have done so.
BOOO HOOO poor St Louis.....OOOPS... they didn't care when they did it to Anaheim.
LA has stolen several team to be fair
Sorry it doesn't fly. Almost all NFL teams have moved at least once. Vote to rescind the NFL Anti trust exemption that allows this legal blackmailing. If St Louis was such a great place for a franchise why hasn't anyone else moved in? My son lives in KC, MO and he thinks St Louis is a pit. KC will lose the Chiefs if they aren't careful.
The football Cardinals are also a three city team (Chicago, St. Louis, Greater Phoenix). If the third time can be a charm for St. Louis it needs to be an expansion team with an owner fully invested in the region, emotionally as well as financially.
They also need heavy corporate sponsorship which also apparently is a requirement for an NFL team now. St. Louis apparently does not have enough corporate sponsorship unless you can somehow get the Busch family involved.
@@WaltGekko St Louis has a ton of big companies that could sponsor the team. Anheuser Busch, Edward Jones, Purina, Centene, Enterprise, World Wide Technology, Energizer, Ameren, etc...
@@Gage_Brumley From what I heard, besides Busch only McDonnell-Douglas would have been acceptable to the NFL at that time.
Nice piece! I enjoyed learning some more Rams history. The Rams never should have left LA in the first place. If they stayed in LA all the suffering of LA fans, then the St. Louis fans would have been avoided. I hope St. Louis gets all their football needs met. The Battlehawks seem like a great start! And, as a current Rams season ticket holder, I welcome any St. Louis Rams fan who comes to SoFi with open arms! Horns up!
heck yeah!
Rams left LA to Anaheim before the Raiders moved to LA. The fans lost faith with the fans and became raider fans.
Fuck the NFL. We don't want those assholes
@@therealjaystone2344 LA as I remember had more Raider fans even before they moved there. LA, however, has ALWAYS been a Lakers town first (dating back to at least 1980) and is the one city where the NBA trumps the NFL.
Stadium issue and money. No problems with the Rams going back to Los Angeles. It was the right call. Saint Louis should’ve been chosen for expansion over Jacksonville but I’m sure stadium issues would’ve developed with them as well in the end. The dome became obsolete quickly
yep domes age like crap
The Rams, when the team was located in Cleveland, never played in the AFL that was shown in the video. That AFL didn't begin until 1960.
they were apart of an AFL just not that AFL. Couldnt find a picture of the one from 1940s so used that as a stand in
There have been several leagues called the American Football League.
American Football League (1926), also known as AFL I (1926)
American Football League (1936), also known as AFL II (1936-37)
American Football League (1940), also known as AFL III (1940-41)
American Football League, also known as AFL IV (1960-1969), merged with National Football League in 1970.
There have also been a few "minor leagues" that used the name AFL and a league that played in Poland from 2018-2020.
The Rams were a part of the second AFL until it fell apart.
@@KKPsi-TubaDawg NFL merger was significant in that the AFL teams stayed together in the same conference.
@@FootballLoreOfficialnot the AFL. You people need to be intelligent on what you’re making a video about and stop using women, it makes you look worse.
@@KKPsi-TubaDawgno they weren’t as no one considers them AFL, as they weren’t part of the original 8(OAK, KC, DEN, LA;which turned into SD, NY, BUF, HOU, and BOS).
Money. It’s always about making more money.
yep
kronke may be an asshole but he isn’t an idiot, he owns sofi stadium, have you seen how many concerts have been held there lately? He’s raking cash hand over fist all 12 months of any given year.
i love their new stadim
Exactly... St. Louis couldve built the Roman Collesseum and it wouldnt compete cause its St. Louis...
St. Louis fans are very satisfied with the Battlehawks. The attendance at the dome is proof. No need for another clash with the NFL. Forget about it.
dam it be like that
Kroenke had the plan to move the Rams to LA from the time he bought the franchise. He and the NFL illegally conspired to move the team.
i agree
Kroenke and the NFL should just say that the Rams are leaving and it nothing St Louis can do about it don't even think about spending money to design a new Stadium the NFL never wanted the Rams in St Louis anyway
Jim Irsay literally stole the Colts from Baltimore and St Louis tried stealing the Patriots. I hope St. Louis never gets an NFL team ever.
another awesome video
thank you!
Stan Kroenke thought the people of St. Louis were a bunch of losers! And he was kind of right! In st. Louis it’s all about the cardinals. Kroenke hated that! Also the nfl desperately wanted a team in Los Angeles. So it was a very easy decision for kroenke!
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My question is why did the Rams abandon Los Angeles in the first place? Los Angeles is the home to the Rams in my opinion
It because of Ownership,Staudim issue, and the Raiders moving to Los Angeles and the NFL fear of losing the lawsuit in court to prevent Georgia Frontiere from moving the team
facts
Los angeles is definitely rams & raiders territory. The chargers still belong in san diego.
City of LA and Los Angeles County refused to build a new stadium or renovate the Coliseum
LA is home to the Raiders.
La did not give kronke a stadium he built it himself... he also went from a team with a valuation in lowest 25% to the second highest valuation in the NFL. He has built the best and by far the most expensive stadium ever built. He put a championship quality team on the field. Even if you are a butthurt St Louis resident there is no denying it was the right move for the NFL and the team.
He did fund it himself thats fair
@@FootballLoreOfficial Yeah, but sadly in doing so replacing one of the most iconic horse racing tracks in the country in Hollywood Park. In fairness, however, even before Hollywood closed Horse Racing in California had been in trouble and Hollywood, which closed in 2013 likely would have closed by now anyway so it was a good repurpose of the land there (in fact, the actual name of the stadium is SoFi Stadium at Hollywood Park).
The Patriots weren't "trying to take advantage" of the new stadium in St Louis. The original owners were heavily indebted to a St Louis businessman and there was talk of them relocating there. It's pretty fitting that the Patriots first and last Superbowls were against the Rams.
The media outlets for 2015 was better than 1995...... Which is why....you moved a team outta small market St Louis. Next??
wat
@@FootballLoreOfficial Social media...NFL TV...and the round the clock coverage of the NFL on the internet wasnt around then....
Because The Rams NEVER belonged in St. Louis. They ALWAYS belonged in Los Angeles!!!
LOL
My new idea bring st louis nfl team without rams logo but different logo renegades or something
Yeah I think that is a great idea, the St Louis renegades
Kroenke was going to move the team no matter what st louis did. His new stadium in LA costed him over 5 billion dollars, while we can play the blame game that should tell you all you need to know. If not for him being married into money and having a pipe dream the rams might still be in st louis.
Yeah, that is really the end goal. I think he had a plan in mind
Q: Why did the Rams abandon St. Louis?
A: MONNNNNNEYYYYYY
lol
If the Raiders never move to Los Angeles the Rams would never move to St Louis
100%
@@FootballLoreOfficial What can Sports Leauges do from being sued by teams owners who want to move and cities that are upset of there teams leave can the Leauges vetted who can own the Pro Sports teams
Didn’t the league sue Al Davis in 82
@coreylevine8095 that's not true. California/LA is not a football town. Even if the Raiders would have not located to LA The Rams would still struggle. The Rams came back to LA and they couldn't even have a sellout from LA people. Even when they won the Super Bowl the Fan base is still struggling. LA is not a football town. Not in the 80s and 90s and not now.
@@raheemhamilton8624Ok how about the 70's
Rams are a transient team, they were in a number of cities before St. Louis. Not sure why pple in St. Louis consider it to be their team more than any other city. Yeah they left St. Louis under sketchy circumstances but they also left SoCal for St. Louis under sketchy circumstances. It’s an eye for an eye.
yes exactly
Transient ???????? The Rams called Los Angeles home for 48 years !!!! Also, the Rams were Los Angeles's first professional franchise in 1946 pre-dating the Dodger's move by 12 years (1958). Do research before you make an insulting comment @ps50433
@@FootballLoreOfficial - Wow, really with this response
Thats a good question
always a stadium
I’ve been to a couple Rams games when they were still in St Louis. There’s literally nowhere to park at the dome. We parked at Casino Queen and took the Metrolink to the stadium. Still had to walk a couple blocks. Ultimately, the owner knew he’d make much more money in Los Angeles than in St. Louis. There were plans for a new stadium that was never seriously considered to be built in St. Louis. At least the dome didn’t get abandoned.
That's nuts
The dome itself was ok, but yea parking was bottom of the barrel. I'd say this was a big mistake for st louis not to improve parking... We would have had alot more people travel to the games.
That new stadium was seriously considered to be built. The city and state approved funding for it and the plans were finalized, but Kroenke looked the other way. St Louis could have offered to build SoFi Stadium and he would have still moved the team to LA.
Stan Cronkey it’s just an ass! I’m live in St. Louis and people support it St. Louis rams stood behind the rams until they started losing you. You don’t put the product on the field to win people will lose interest no matter what city you play in.
Exactly
They were returned home after being stolen by Georgia Frontiere. Thank you Stan
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Who’s House?!!! 🌴🌴🌴
The Rams sucked in St Louis. Outside of the greatest show on turf, which was about four years, they had a losing season ever year. The Rams have been back in LA for eight years (nine coming up) and have already had more winning seasons than the entirety of st Louis. It was a no brainer why kronke wanted out of st Louis (💰💰💰).
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Should have won one more super bowl at least. That team that lost in 2001 was far superior to the Patriots that year. They fell off a cliff after that season. They only managed one more playoff win after that in St Louis.
Its the 13% figure it out
what?
Shut up dumbass
St Louis has had the misfortune of Losing the Hawks (NBA), Rams, Football Cardinals, and the St Louis Browns (Baltimore Orioles)that Definitely needs to be discussed.
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Spirits too
Interesting that the two teams that swapped ownership, both moved from the coasts to the Midwest.
The Rams belong in LA imo.
i agree
Kroenke wanted to get it crunk in los angeles, it probably was the best decision. Battlehawks are loved in 'the lou!!"
I feel sorry for St. Louis they did get screwed over. But as a Pittsburgher who had no horse in the race LA always felt like the true home of the Rams.
Also say what you will about the owner Stan Kroenke but the Rams built one of the best stadiums in the League and took no public money to do so just securing some tax breaks. I wish more owners would do that.
yep
@@jokerz7936 Say or think what you want about Robert Kraft, but he also privately financed the Patriots stadium
Bottomline, the Rams left st louis because they(the Rams) were given the option to move when st louis refused to renovate that domed stadium and bring it up to par with the top 25% of the stadiums in the NFL as per the lease agreement! Honor the the terms of the lease and the Rams "would not" have been given the option to leave... That's what you people in st louis fail to acknowledge. Now deal with the consequences...
yes, but still sucks for the fans who have no control over the situation.
Georgia was losing money in Anaheim. What isn't mentioned in this video is that Stan Kroenke was actually a part owner when the Rams landed in St. Louis, as Georgia needed money. The Rams were in dire straights, being one of the poorest teams in the league. Business is messy and it takes money to make things happen. In the end, the Rams landed on their feet and I know people in St. Louis are still bitter about it, I don't blame them. The Rams won a title game while in that city, their FIRST title, now they have an incredible stadium, a great coach and hope. I am going to call out the LA Rams fans, who IMO, are pretty weak. Letting the 9ers sell out SoFi when they play in LA is fan treason. That is when the Rams need you the most and they gladly sell them out.
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The question is? Why did the Rams abandoned Los Angeles.
And why did the St. Louis Cardinals abandoned St. Louis?
Now suddenly there's room in Los Angeles for two teams and no team in St. Louis!
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Rams left downtown LA in 1980 because they refused to make any upgrades to the Coliseum or approve a new stadium.
They left Anaheim for similar reasons. They were stuck in a baseball field.
The return was made possible by Kroenke buying the land after he took over the team in 2011
@@y2films yes I used to go to games at the Coliseum in the 70s and 80s. it was shithouse. Like the Oakland Coliseum
@@mreppen1 I can't imagine how bad it got before the Raiders left
@@y2films Kronke bought the land in 2014 after Hollywood Park closed for Horse Racing in December 2013 and was subsequently torn down. The lakes next to the stadium used to be in the infield at Hollywood and in fact the stadium's actual name is SoFi Stadium at Hollywood Park.
Rams moved to St. Louis because Georgia Frontierre was "sick and tired" of playing second fiddle to the Lakers. LA has been a Laker town first for DECADES and is the ONE city where the NBA trumps the NFL. Once she died, her children had to sell their interests to Kronke to cover Estate taxes and Kronke was able to move the team back.
Because Stan Kronke is a greedy Person a man who a Is billionaire Did not like St Louis And thought he could make more money that he doesn't need in LA St Louis Support the Rams Greatest Show on Turf
yep
St Louis is a baseball town and maybe hockey ask the Hawks how St Louis does in other sports
I dont think they even want an NFL team anymore
Yeah Stan still won't let us watch the Nuggets in Denver.
lol
@@FootballLoreOfficial outside of nationally televised game we literally have to stream games.
Very simple:
The Rams as I remember moved to St. Louis in the first place because then-owner Georgia Frontierre was "sick and tired" of playing second fiddle to the Lakers, as LA is still the one city where the NBA trumps the NFL (and MLB with the Dodgers also often trumps the NFL). When she passed away, her children were forced to sell their interests because of Estate taxes to Stan Kronke. Add in years of pressure the NFL had been getting from the networks to have teams in LA so stars of their shows could "be seen at the game" (seeing how many women in particular who don't follow sports otherwise would often watch Lakers games on TNT/ABC/ESPN just to see who was at the game) and that played into the return of the Rams to Los Angeles after 2015, to be joined a year later by the Chargers.
Another factor with St. Louis was the lack of corporate sponsorship available. Aside from Anheuser-Busch, the only other company big enough in St. Louis at the time was apparently McDonnell-Douglas and Busch to me anyway didn't have anywhere near enough interest to help keep the Rams in St. Louis (and likely also played heavily into why the football Cardinals went to Arizona after the 1987 season and have actually been in Arizona longer than they were in St. Louis). Corporate sponsors are apparently huge in the NFL to where you need that.
well said
I'm from St. Louis. Stay in Dallas now & LA is my favorite city to visit. I love LA and St. Louis is nowhere near LA, obviously. The Rams belong in LA and St. Louis is a small market. Hence, I left. But LA fans are NOT better football fans than St. Louis fans. St. Louis deserves a football team. I don't get why the Raiders and Rams aren't in LA and Chargers isn't in Vegas. And give STL an expansion team or Jacksonville Jags should be St. Louis Jags.
St Louis definitely deserves a spot in the NFL. I think Raiders Rams was a way better fit for LA too
The Raiders also played in three different cities-Oakland twice, Los Angeles, and now Las Vegas.
video about it soon!
San Francisco too.
The league wanted football back in Los Angeles. As simple as that.
They should've worked harder with the spanos family to keep the chargers in san diego though, the chargers just don't fit in the los angeles, ca market correctly
eh idk the Raiders and Chargers wanted to move too and the Raiders got shut down
@@dwjoseph59 If anything, maybe in that regard there could have been a complete team swap where the Chargers name went to St. Louis but with the Rams team staying there and taking the Chargers name and with the team that had been in San Diego moving to LA and becoming the Rams while the Raiders also moved to LA and the "new Rams" (former Chargers) and Raiders sharing the LA Coliseum with USC until SoFi Stadium was ready.
It was the NETWORKS who privately had been pressuring the NFL for years about putting teams in LA as they wanted to be able to have stars of their shows "be seen at the game" seeing how many women in particular watched Lakers games just to see who was there.
@@WaltGekko 💯💯👍👍
Just root for the Chiefs. It's like 4 hours away and the team is better than what an expansion team would be.
good solve
The same reason they "abandoned" Cleveland, Los Angeles, and Orange County, California: money!
yep
And people keeo talking about saint louis, mo isn't a big enough market. Get caught up in that gateway city metro traffic & then talk to me.
I think its a solid market
Also Kroenke helped Georgia Fronteire relocate the Rams from Los Angeles to St.Louis. At the time he owned 30 percent of the team.
i didnt know that
At least Stan Kroenke had the decency to let St. Louis say goodbye to the Rams, unlike Robert Irsay who....ironically, briefly owned the Rams!
LOL
The City of Baltimore was about to take the team from Irsay through eminent domain and that's why the move happened (plus, Indy had a stadium already in place). NFL should have righted this wrong after 1995 when the Browns moved to Baltimore by making Irsay give up the Colts and instead let them move back to Baltimore while getting the former Browns in return (with that team likely renamed the Racers after the old WHA franchise in Indy with Indy Cars on the helmets), even if it meant giving the new Indy team the first two picks in the 1996, '97 and '98 drafts AND special salary cap considerations to make that happen. Paul Tagliabue could have righted a wrong by doing that.
The real question is why they ever left LA?
great question
Let's leave one murder state to another murder lawless state that's a shit hole....
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Should have never moved to St. Louis in the first place.
reasonable
I’ll never understand why St. Louis is mad we LA “stole” their team and we should feel bad for them when they “stole” our team first and no one ever said poor LA we should feel bad for them. Rams belong in LA
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Don't get me started
Exactly!!!
We're trying Stan crocky you don't like St Louis I wish we could make the battlehawks at NFL team that would be cool cuz I think St Louis deserves an NFL team
I think St Louis really deserves an NFL franchise again.
Yes but not the Rams
They moved back to a city which they wanted out of
That's true
The Rams need to return to the old blue and white uniforms of the 60's. What's up with that stupid dissected rams horn on the helmet?
Retro is almost always better
@@FootballLoreOfficialThe Rams need to go back to their 1980's Uniforms
Because money
pretty much
At least they still have Kansas City.
true
Rams & Chargers just played last week and looked like there was about 200 fans, total. LA doesn't deserve 1 team let alone 2. When i lived there nobody cared about football.
Harbaugh going from Michigan,nthe Big House, 100k to 200 fans has to be a shock to the system. He be there 4 years then gone.
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It were 66,112 at the game not 200
It was a friggin exhibition game. Nobody gives a shit about those games, come on. Weak man.
Kansas City or St. Louis Should Have a NBA Team?
yes
@@FootballLoreOfficial Touche' (smile)
Maybe the Raptors or Grizzlies one day.
Football should come back one St. Louis for the third time one day. 😀👍🏈
Hope so
We have it
I went to a Battlehawks game once.
Washington DC got a third chance with the MLB Nationals, but after losing two teams, it's virtually impossible to get a third unless you are a big market.
Why did they leave Cleveland their original city?
Lack of fans and the browns becoming competition
WW II
Kronke does have roots in Missouri. He was born in Columbia, Missouri. Also, he is a graduate of the University of Missouri Columbia
Hes also named after two Cardinals greats. But Fu*k Kronke.
He was also named after Cardinal Legends Stan Musial and Enos Slaughter
None of that matters! He brought our team back home where it belongs. Thank you Mr Kroenke & let's Go L.A Rams!!
Too humid.
yes
Money!!!
100%
Crime.
yes
Money! 🤑
yes