Saw some of these on a curved wall,you just don't see this anymore,the old skills used for restoration techniques should be kept alive..as to me its part of our heritage..thank you Rob for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience..👍🙌
This is most definitely the fine art of bricklaying, not a tradesman, a craftsman. That is a dying art . When you mentioned the arch in the previous video I expected a pre cast one 🤔, superbly done . I like how you have got over the wonky bond too 👌🏼
Hello Lads, nice to see other brickies complimenting Rob's work. So many in the trade would rather turn their nose up and try to find fault. I don't get that.
LOL Steve and Alex! If you thought you would see Rob install a pre cast arch, then you must be new his style!! LOL Cheers...by the way I have been enjoying your videos very much too. And yes, Rob is a rock star.
Working up in London City, back in the early 80s, we built Flat Arches, which arrived on site packed in crates, with all the voussoirs pre-cut. They were genuine red rubbers too, so a square of granite paving stone was provided for each man to enable squaring up of the faces as required. If I remember, we would expect to sort out one opening each, though we worked in pairs as the centres were heavy and needed to be accurately placed, plumbed and leveled up. The foreman even made sure that the centre surface was planed to give a miniscule lift to the intrados, so as to avoid the optical illusion of a totally flat arch, as falling in. So we did work on panels of four, 3 trowels and a labourer, setting up the skewbacks, setting the arches, and finally running a half-dozen brick over all. And it was job and knock, so we were often away at least a half-hour before the rest, to catch a bus with some empty seats. We had a great summer on that job.
@@robsonger1 I'm retired now Rob, living in Devon with my wife. I didn't have a camera in those days - I was just a day-work brickie working for an agency that subbed tradesmen to the big management outfits like Trollope and Coles. We all used to gather in the on-site canteen for a cuppa before starting. The brick foreman came in and asked for volunteers who knew how to build gauged arches. He got 3 takers (out of about two dozen) and we went on from there. I'd worked for several years in Cheltenham on the Lansdown Crescent project, all Georgian brickwork. Bath stone frontages of course, but even that was hung off brickwork. I was lucky enough to work with an old bricklayer who passed on a lot of knowledge to me. He had worked on the construction of the second half of Battersea power station, chimneys and all. There's no arguing with that weight of experience! :-)
Very cool .I see these all over the city I live in........How did they cut the bricks for all these incredible arches in the 1800's-early 1900's?,saws? chisels???
Thanks Rob! I had a terrible time doing one of these last year. If I have to do another one here are the 3 things I learned today: 1: pencil marks disappear (so score). 2: screw your template together. 3: mark your bricks on the back with the grinder. Yep, Follow those rules and it will save you a ton of grief. Thanks Rob, Great advice.
I did some of these years ago with keystones in the center. We pulled a string from the bottom center of the window to the face of the jack arch and marked em with a pencel. So all of the joints were pointing to the same direction. Good job though.
Excellent Rob as expected but weather I knew but over the decades have forgotten or know it by another term or never knew at all but what's a joggle joint ?😀
A joggle joint is a cone shaped frog in the brick (voussoir) where runny mortar is put in to add strength as the joints are so thin. This will build shown and explained in the next series of videos. Thank you for watching
Hi, I am currently doing my 2nd bricklaying at night school, I want to do my CSCS card soon so I can get a job as an improver bricklayer. Basically I have two questions 1, What card do I need to get, the green labouring one or the red trainee card? 2, Do you know if I have to do this extra health and safety day course even though I've completed my first year at college? The reason I ask these questions is because I keep getting told different things off of the CSCS people and by people in the industry. If anyone can help that would be great. Thanks
Rob you should be passing this bricklaying skills on hardly any of us trowels out there know how to do this and I for one would love to learn you should have your own school lol
the minimum is 2 years, but I recommend the full 3 years to achieve level 3 (the old Advanced Craft) as this really opens your mind to so many principles of setting out, curved work, arches, battered walls etc that can be applied in everyday work. I did a further 2 nights a week for 2 more years (3 nights in the second year) to learn theory on other trades that later helped me into Site Management.
I cant find anything but this video describing this as a Georgian arch, everywhere else it seems to be described as a jack arch or a flat arch. And I know that the terms we use as bricklayers often differ from south to north alot. Then even more so around the world (wont even mention the fine art of tuck pointing meaning just to repoint brickwork in parts of aus and usa) I would probably just trust you over google on deciding a name I will use for it
As students we learnt about several arches and the one in this video has 3 names Flat arch, which is obvious Cambered arch, as a 10mm rise for every 1000mm to prevent the illusion of sag, and Georgian arch because the period of architecture that this arch became prominent.
It's a Georgian (the period it was first used) Flat...because it was the first flat arch, and Cambered because it had a 10mm rise every 1000mm to prevent the illusion sag.
@@alexanderscarpetupholstery9263 I'm a brickie meself and you have just said something I've never seen Tray is always built in over openings into the internal wall
Виктор да вот по крупицам собираю информацию про этот вид перемычки...с первого взгляда влюбился в нее,вот этим летом буду делать на доме,порыпался ничего в русской части вооще не нашел да и собсно у них почти ничего нет кроме одного исполнения канадцем,пару месяцев назад написал Робу и Стю пожелания видео на эту тему и вот Роб отреагировал. Моя задача понабраться максимально информации и так сказать пропитаться полным технологическим процессом изготовления. А вы делали ее ?
Thank you Rob for the video I was asking for. As you see a lot of people interesting about this arch. But the video doesn’t have a lot of details and comments, as I thought it would have. I have some questions. 0:25 you are showing device which one helped you to mark bricks for cutting. But how did you know the cutting angle for each single brick? Some people ruclips.net/video/l-GxEdnLCJ4/видео.html , www.pyromasse.ca/articles/jacs_e.html. make cardboard template of whole arch and then cut it on templates for each single brick. How did you do it? In the next frame there was a metal stand, did you remove it? What reason? 2:30 are you talking about new full video? With best regards
Now that’s Brickwork !!!! 55 years in the game nice to see brickwork done properly instead of 1 over 2
Nice to have you back Rob. True craftsman.
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Ginger Dust been watching yours mate. Canny bricky yourself 🧱🧱👍
It's a pleasure to watch and learn.
Thank you
Saw some of these on a curved wall,you just don't see this anymore,the old skills used for restoration techniques should be kept alive..as to me its part of our heritage..thank you Rob for taking the time to share your knowledge and experience..👍🙌
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This is most definitely the fine art of bricklaying, not a tradesman, a craftsman. That is a dying art . When you mentioned the arch in the previous video I expected a pre cast one 🤔, superbly done . I like how you have got over the wonky bond too 👌🏼
Hello Lads, nice to see other brickies complimenting Rob's work. So many in the trade would rather turn their nose up and try to find fault. I don't get that.
Matt Cartwright . Rob is the sort of bricky all brickies should aspire to be like and I wish I had his patience 👌🏼
LOL Steve and Alex! If you thought you would see Rob install a pre cast arch, then you must be new his style!! LOL Cheers...by the way I have been enjoying your videos very much too. And yes, Rob is a rock star.
Andy Mac . Thanks pal 🧱👍🏽
Martin Allen Happy new year Martin we’ve been posting every 2 weeks lately . Latest one was last Friday 👍🏼
Love the marking on the back of brick smart idea , as always great job
Them joints are perfect from a perfectionist. Brilliant job.
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Super work - real dedication there - a pleasure to watch Thanks for posting
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First class as always Rob, thanks for posting.
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Beautiful!!! A lot of work as well. I installed 3 flat arches over the Summer.👍✌️
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You are looking & learning great !!!!
Great! 👍 Waiting for full video. Want such arches on my house.
Максим привет,приятно и удивительно встретить соплеменика интересующегося плоской клинчатой аркой, можно у вас подробности поспрашивать?
Working up in London City, back in the early 80s, we built Flat Arches, which arrived on site packed in crates, with all the voussoirs pre-cut. They were genuine red rubbers too, so a square of granite paving stone was provided for each man to enable squaring up of the faces as required.
If I remember, we would expect to sort out one opening each, though we worked in pairs as the centres were heavy and needed to be accurately placed, plumbed and leveled up. The foreman even made sure that the centre surface was planed to give a miniscule lift to the intrados, so as to avoid the optical illusion of a totally flat arch, as falling in. So we did work on panels of four, 3 trowels and a labourer, setting up the skewbacks, setting the arches, and finally running a half-dozen brick over all. And it was job and knock, so we were often away at least a half-hour before the rest, to catch a bus with some empty seats. We had a great summer on that job.
that was good to read. Did you take pictures of your work and the final arches?
what work are you doing now?
@@robsonger1 I'm retired now Rob, living in Devon with my wife. I didn't have a camera in those days - I was just a day-work brickie working for an agency that subbed tradesmen to the big management outfits like Trollope and Coles.
We all used to gather in the on-site canteen for a cuppa before starting. The brick foreman came in and asked for volunteers who knew how to build gauged arches. He got 3 takers (out of about two dozen) and we went on from there.
I'd worked for several years in Cheltenham on the Lansdown Crescent project, all Georgian brickwork. Bath stone frontages of course, but even that was hung off brickwork. I was lucky enough to work with an old bricklayer who passed on a lot of knowledge to me. He had worked on the construction of the second half of Battersea power station, chimneys and all. There's no arguing with that weight of experience! :-)
Very cool .I see these all over the city I live in........How did they cut the bricks for all these incredible arches in the 1800's-early 1900's?,saws? chisels???
Amazing how they used to do it all with bolster and scutch. Then rub straight.
I'm defo looking forward to this series Rob,
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Superb as always
thank you for watching
Can't wait, thanks Rob!
I threw the trowel in the canal seen more than enough bricks to last me a lifetime !!!!
Thanks Rob! I had a terrible time doing one of these last year. If I have to do another one here are the 3 things I learned today: 1: pencil marks disappear (so score). 2: screw your template together. 3: mark your bricks on the back with the grinder. Yep, Follow those rules and it will save you a ton of grief. Thanks Rob, Great advice.
I always called them "jack arches". Not allowed to install them anymore without a steel lentil underneath here in Canada.
Hopefully you continue doing the basic skills lessons, a lot of youngsters can learn a lot from you
thank you John, Lesson 5 will be on as soon as I get a few spare moments and the weather allows it.
thank you for watching
I did some of these years ago with keystones in the center. We pulled a string from the bottom center of the window to the face of the jack arch and marked em with a pencel. So all of the joints were pointing to the same direction. Good job though.
And to think 150 years ago most bricklayers did this .Where did it go wrong and when ?
oh Ronnie...I have so much to say in reply, but I'll save it for later videos...
thank you for watching and commenting.
Excellent Rob as expected but weather I knew but over the decades have forgotten or know it by another term or never knew at all but what's a joggle joint ?😀
A joggle joint is a cone shaped frog in the brick (voussoir) where runny mortar is put in to add strength as the joints are so thin.
This will build shown and explained in the next series of videos.
Thank you for watching
Sorry about auto spell....is shumtimes spills the worms wong
@@robsonger1 Thank you Rob and don't worry about the smelling pisstakes 👍
Hello, Rob! In the spring you promised to explain about flat jack (gamber) arch making. Thanks
I have bought the red rubber bricks but my camera is not good so I'm just waiting for a new one, plus work is busy at the moment
@@robsonger1 Oh, okey, I see. I’ll wait for it, good luck with your work and thank you!
Hi, I am currently doing my 2nd bricklaying at night school, I want to do my CSCS card soon so I can get a job as an improver bricklayer. Basically I have two questions 1, What card do I need to get, the green labouring one or the red trainee card? 2, Do you know if I have to do this extra health and safety day course even though I've completed my first year at college? The reason I ask these questions is because I keep getting told different things off of the CSCS people and by people in the industry. If anyone can help that would be great. Thanks
Rob you should be passing this bricklaying skills on hardly any of us trowels out there know how to do this and I for one would love to learn you should have your own school lol
There will be Saturday workshops starting soon...
rob songer really!!!!! I think it will take off well. What area do you live
rob songer also will there be a bar inside as you know most bricky’s like a beer lol
Norfolk/Suffolk
rob songer oh ain’t that far then
Beautiful work man ship wouldn’t mind working next to you on the trowel
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Do you have a link to the following video please?
The next video does not sequence in the queue
Pretty work as usual. Curious, is this actually an effective arch? Will it support a load if it is unsupported?
yes, absolutely.
this is a Georgian arch and during this period all arches in houses and stately homes were built this way.
Hey Rob. Where can I purchase the twisted pier builders square? I can't find it anywhere 😥I'd love it to practice with training mortar. Thanks
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Where can i get a copy of your rules of bonding brickwork please rob
Rob, where can i purchase your twist and square tool
Brilliant work.
Would you also call this type of arch a gauged arch?
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Rob what’s the duration of a bricklaying apprenticeship in the u.k . In Ireland the apprenticeship is 4 years long .
the minimum is 2 years, but I recommend the full 3 years to achieve level 3 (the old Advanced Craft) as this really opens your mind to so many principles of setting out, curved work, arches, battered walls etc that can be applied in everyday work.
I did a further 2 nights a week for 2 more years (3 nights in the second year) to learn theory on other trades that later helped me into Site Management.
I love it
I cant find anything but this video describing this as a Georgian arch, everywhere else it seems to be described as a jack arch or a flat arch. And I know that the terms we use as bricklayers often differ from south to north alot. Then even more so around the world (wont even mention the fine art of tuck pointing meaning just to repoint brickwork in parts of aus and usa) I would probably just trust you over google on deciding a name I will use for it
As students we learnt about several arches and the one in this video has 3 names
Flat arch, which is obvious
Cambered arch, as a 10mm rise for every 1000mm to prevent the illusion of sag, and
Georgian arch because the period of architecture that this arch became prominent.
@@robsonger1 thank you. Probably sickens you to see the pre made ones dropped on the site houses that are thrown up today.
Yes Michael, all the skill and satisfaction is being taken away at a rapid rate.
I'll try to keep it alive, keep watching.
Hello Rob
May I ask why it is called Georgian flat arch?
It's a Georgian (the period it was first used) Flat...because it was the first flat arch, and Cambered because it had a 10mm rise every 1000mm to prevent the illusion sag.
@@robsonger1 thank for reply. I like your work.
Could you please tell me why theres no tray over the lintel?
viktor sukharyev Catnic lintel has it built in
@@alexanderscarpetupholstery9263 I'm a brickie meself and you have just said something I've never seen
Tray is always built in over openings into the internal wall
Виктор привет,можно поинтересоваться подробностью вашего вопроса
@@brickartmasonry1348 что конкретно вас интересует?
Виктор да вот по крупицам собираю информацию про этот вид перемычки...с первого взгляда влюбился в нее,вот этим летом буду делать на доме,порыпался ничего в русской части вооще не нашел да и собсно у них почти ничего нет кроме одного исполнения канадцем,пару месяцев назад написал Робу и Стю пожелания видео на эту тему и вот Роб отреагировал. Моя задача понабраться максимально информации и так сказать пропитаться полным технологическим процессом изготовления. А вы делали ее ?
Thank you Rob for the video I was asking for. As you see a lot of people interesting about this arch. But the video doesn’t have a lot of details and comments, as I thought it would have. I have some questions. 0:25 you are showing device which one helped you to mark bricks for cutting. But how did you know the cutting angle for each single brick? Some people ruclips.net/video/l-GxEdnLCJ4/видео.html , www.pyromasse.ca/articles/jacs_e.html. make cardboard template of whole arch and then cut it on templates for each single brick. How did you do it? In the next frame there was a metal stand, did you remove it? What reason? 2:30 are you talking about new full video? With best regards
Yes, I hope to start doing the drawing soon for all 7 arches and by the springtime I will have some cut and built, all video'd
Thanks Rob, but most interesting arch for me is flat jack arch
You need to upload a video
How long did it take you from cutting to pointing?
the setting out, cutting and laying was all in the first day, and the brickwork over and the pointing was half of the second day.
@@robsonger1
Thankyou, its a lovely tidy job.
No sound 😥😥
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Jack soldiers
The bond over the arch doesn't make sense , great arch though
The bond over the arch matches the bond below
@@robsonger1 what would you call it ?
Broken bond
Please watch my video Bonding Lesson 11
Very well done nice job