@@mba6154 It uses a coil spring. Similar if not the same as those wind up toys you played with as a kid. Basically, the coil is like a spring so that when compressed will try to go back to its original shape. We take advantage of that by converting unwinding metal into rotational force. “The governor” mentioned early in the video is a piece that governs the speed the system plays at. It has large wings that create air resistance forcing the system to run slower.
Hopefully machine learning software in the future can convert recorded audio from the 1880s - 1940s into hi-fi audio. For example you could train the software by feeding the same audio recorded on a Edison wax recorder and a high fidelity digital recorder. There are several videos on RUclips where musicians record themselves on an ancient Edison machine and a digital recorder (like this one ). By giving the software enough data, maybe it can learn how to convert low fidelity audio to high fidelity audio by adding the missing data (audio frequencies).
Almost impossible, would need AI tech for a simulated projection for most acurate reproduction, but will never be anywhere near exact since too much info is lost via the original recording processes. Some information can never be certainly known
They did this decades ago with old opera recordings, back in the 1970s. Developed algorithms to "add what was missing" from the old wax cylinder and shellac recordings. People preferred the originals.
Amazing! Considering the technology not a bad sounding recording. I work a lot with vintage recordings. I think Edison had the best acoustical recording system. Just think folks a 100 years ago (not that long ago) we were recording music in this manner. It was quite a technical process.
I was excited to find this video after reading in the Wash Post about a music history enthusiast who discovered a 133 year old wax cylinder recording of New Orleans performer Louis Vasnier performing "Thompson's Old Gray Mule." The recording has been transferred to a 45 record for release by a niche historical music label called Archeophone.
From the wax recorder to the personal computer; the fact that this technology actually works the way it does is beyond comprehension for anybody who did not invent it.
Amezing it sounds as good as an overused vinyl record, just incredible. Lif there will only by a modern version of a wax recorder wich could automatically remove redundant wax parts, would be great. Also if there will be recordings made from plastic, it could then be preserved forever.
Three companies make hard resin cylinder records, that don't wear out. Three of us make the wax blanks they are using in this video. I live in Princeton IL, The other lives in Waynsville, IL, the third in Exeter, England.
For people calling for training AI to reproduce old music in a modern manner, I am engineer and we have built something similar, and it turned out to be horrific idea, things created in the past such as sounds, arts and even theorise and ideas made according to the conceptions, trends and spirit of that time, and sometimes we love it for what it represents, most often the value is far beyond the quality of beats and voice, it is cultural, nostalgic. And by molding it to fit the current trends is to distort and neutralize
Can someone help me understand how this works? I get that the stylus cuts grooves into the wax cylinder through pressure and vibrations from the sound waves, but how does the wax actually recreate the sound and not just sound like a needle on wax? It’s so mind blowing to me 🤯
@@Iselus someone tried explaining it to me, but I don’t really think there is an explanation. They just explained the process of what’s happening which I understand.
If I may try, it might be easier for you to imagine a vinyl record (LP, 45 RPM, 33RPM, etc.) where the black (or whatever colour) material is hard and you can ‘see’ the groove in the record itself. There is one long groove that winds around and around, just like this wax cylinder. The recording groove (on both the vinyl LP record and the wax cylinder) looks like a jagged crack if you looked up close or magnified it [i personally think it looks/is just like a waveform (sound) opened in audio editing software (DAW)!] this groove is etched into the material via vibrations when ‘recording’, and on ‘playback’, the groove moves/vibrates the reading/playback needle around while it is being played back (the needle being pushed around through the groove) and this shaking, these vibrations of the needle, are amplified, either through a horn/bell shape as shown with the wax cylinder, or amplified electronically in a ‘modern’ vinyl record player. Once amplified to the range a human ear can ‘hear’ it (receive the sound waves in the ear/eardrum/etc, where the vibrations are passed to the inner ear and interpreted by the brain as ‘sound’), the entire recording process is complete (recording and playback enjoyment).
When wax recording was common, electronic music was considered foreign and eerie. They were right, and the music became widespread and ethereal. The real truth is how talentless drone music can’t beat talent, risk taking, singing and old music we take for granted.
The fact that it works without electricity, is an engineering miracle
How will work if there is no electricity?
@@mba6154 It uses a coil spring.
Similar if not the same as those wind up toys you played with as a kid.
Basically, the coil is like a spring so that when compressed will try to go back to its original shape.
We take advantage of that by converting unwinding metal into rotational force.
“The governor” mentioned early in the video is a piece that governs the speed the system plays at.
It has large wings that create air resistance forcing the system to run slower.
@@mba6154 clockwork motor
A lot of things didn't use electricity, for example a gramophone
@@mba6154a megaphone doesn't use electricity
Has a bit of a late 50s recorded in a garage with a crystal mic quality to it.
The fact that humans have been able to invent something like this blows my fucking mind. No species will ever be as amazing as us
On Earth.
not for space and other planets
Only a bit over 120 years to pretty much destroy the oceans and most forests. Imagine the damage humans can do with another 120.
@@СшаСша-ф5о most forests have not been destroyed, for example the entirety of northern Canada lay untouched by humans
@@muzhikforchaplin1203 have you lived in Northern Canada or Siberia, like I have? If not, your opinion is nothing.
What a kick ass invention…..I love the purity and physics of it - right in front of your face. So cool
Hipsters when they discover that vinyl is now becoming mainstream again
I was interested in this video for the historic quality of the process and I'm 59, hardly a hipster.
@@toonman361 it was a joke bro
Already happening. In 2022 bands are actually releasing new wax cylinders for novelty value.
Lmfao
Hipsters when they discover cylinder is now becoming mainstream again
Hopefully machine learning software in the future can convert recorded audio from the 1880s - 1940s into hi-fi audio. For example you could train the software by feeding the same audio recorded on a Edison wax recorder and a high fidelity digital recorder. There are several videos on RUclips where musicians record themselves on an ancient Edison machine and a digital recorder (like this one ). By giving the software enough data, maybe it can learn how to convert low fidelity audio to high fidelity audio by adding the missing data (audio frequencies).
Gosh imagine hearing all those old Gilbert and Sullivan wax recordings updated to make them sound like new! Agh! That would be amazing
YES!
Very cool
Almost impossible, would need AI tech for a simulated projection for most acurate reproduction, but will never be anywhere near exact since too much info is lost via the original recording processes. Some information can never be certainly known
They did this decades ago with old opera recordings, back in the 1970s. Developed algorithms to "add what was missing" from the old wax cylinder and shellac recordings. People preferred the originals.
Es alucinante escuchar una guitarra eléctrica en un cilindro de cera. Un anacronismo hecho realidad. Bravo.
Amazing! Considering the technology not a bad sounding recording. I work a lot with vintage recordings. I think Edison had the best acoustical recording system. Just think folks a 100 years ago (not that long ago) we were recording music in this manner. It was quite a technical process.
I was waiting for the playback.
I was excited to find this video after reading in the Wash Post about a music history enthusiast who discovered a 133 year old wax cylinder recording of New Orleans performer Louis Vasnier performing "Thompson's Old Gray Mule." The recording has been transferred to a 45 record for release by a niche historical music label called Archeophone.
The recorded sound is just LOOOOVELY!!!
Amazing to see we’ve come from this to using Pro Tools!
I agree😄
threw that recording it sounds like Johnny Thunders or some punk band from the 70's
From the wax recorder to the personal computer; the fact that this technology actually works the way it does is beyond comprehension for anybody who did not invent it.
Pretty catchy song.
Truly piece of history in the world of technology
The quality was much better than I expected!
Ya gotta love the 60 HZ hum all the way through this....
Amezing it sounds as good as an overused vinyl record, just incredible.
Lif there will only by a modern version of a wax recorder wich could automatically remove redundant wax parts, would be great.
Also if there will be recordings made from plastic, it could then be preserved forever.
@ShymFan2007 You can actually get toy phonographs that record on plastic cups and candles
Three companies make hard resin cylinder records, that don't wear out. Three of us make the wax blanks they are using in this video. I live in Princeton IL, The other lives in Waynsville, IL, the third in Exeter, England.
It's about history, buddy. Not sure why you're so salty
You can hear the air bulb hes blowing on the shavings
The sounds 😂😂😂
It didn't seem to make it into the actual recording, thankfully.
That was SOO cool. Very interesting, thanks!
Wow thank you I was interested in bow sound is physically captured and on what.
Ummm why didn't we get to hear the replay? Great rockabilly guitar
uh.. let us hear the recording?
For people calling for training AI to reproduce old music in a modern manner, I am engineer and we have built something similar, and it turned out to be horrific idea, things created in the past such as sounds, arts and even theorise and ideas made according to the conceptions, trends and spirit of that time, and sometimes we love it for what it represents, most often the value is far beyond the quality of beats and voice, it is cultural, nostalgic. And by molding it to fit the current trends is to distort and neutralize
i love to listen to 16kbs mono 8bit mp3 sometimes - they sound like bad bootleg recordings of concerts but there's some magic in it
Why don't we hear it played back??
its interesting but how do you reproduce the sound???
DJ Meku on the Wax!
That’s pretty good volume too - certainly set up properly.
The recording sounds like what you heard from variable density soundtrack found on films
Can you do this with a tape roll?
What song from what artist please
That will confuse some archaeologists in a few hundred years time.
I still don’t understand how the music is being recorded on wax? I get the basic explanation of the device but need more in depth explanation?
nice record as I can hear there are 4X16Bit 44.100Hz
Well at the end of the day if you can master the wax cylinder sound why not u know.
What happens after that,???
Can someone help me understand how this works? I get that the stylus cuts grooves into the wax cylinder through pressure and vibrations from the sound waves, but how does the wax actually recreate the sound and not just sound like a needle on wax? It’s so mind blowing to me 🤯
I'm exactly wondering aswell trying to research this.
@@Iselus someone tried explaining it to me, but I don’t really think there is an explanation. They just explained the process of what’s happening which I understand.
@@Iselus let me know if you figure anything out. It’s crazy that someone came up with this in 1877.
If I may try, it might be easier for you to imagine a vinyl record (LP, 45 RPM, 33RPM, etc.) where the black (or whatever colour) material is hard and you can ‘see’ the groove in the record itself. There is one long groove that winds around and around, just like this wax cylinder. The recording groove (on both the vinyl LP record and the wax cylinder) looks like a jagged crack if you looked up close or magnified it [i personally think it looks/is just like a waveform (sound) opened in audio editing software (DAW)!]
this groove is etched into the material via vibrations when ‘recording’, and on ‘playback’, the groove moves/vibrates the reading/playback needle around while it is being played back (the needle being pushed around through the groove) and this shaking, these vibrations of the needle, are amplified, either through a horn/bell shape as shown with the wax cylinder, or amplified electronically in a ‘modern’ vinyl record player. Once amplified to the range a human ear can ‘hear’ it (receive the sound waves in the ear/eardrum/etc, where the vibrations are passed to the inner ear and interpreted by the brain as ‘sound’), the entire recording process is complete (recording and playback enjoyment).
anyone know what guitar that was?
Fender Stratocaster
Now record Trap music onto it! Cool stuff
This is Hi-Fi to a TMBG fan.
Quiero una
wondering is the blowing on the cylinder effecting the sound,mirco level wise...?
No because the only way Audio can get onto the cylinder is the diaphragm vibrating the needle so the slight air moving won’t do anything
Very good
When wax recording was common, electronic music was considered foreign and eerie. They were right, and the music became widespread and ethereal. The real truth is how talentless drone music can’t beat talent, risk taking, singing and old music we take for granted.
talentless drone music? What the hell is even that lol
Cultured End of the World preper must have. 5 star
Very Carl Wilson guitar solo.
Ingenious
Imagine inventing this though. Dang
Holy Cow!
sherlock holmes made me search this
Cool, however a little sketchy in that playback of this recording was not presented.
Wat about nikola teslas voice
Wax Drum/cylinder not Disk.
Ultimate hipster music medium.
500 to 3000 Hz
Recording artists pronounced extremely, as the singer songwriter doesn't
🤣🤣🤣
This video is no good if you let us hear what the recording sounded like after it was made !!!
2:18-2:40 for example
They did...
That wasn't clear to me, I thought we were just hearing the sound coming out of the horn. It would have been better to actually show it played back
And? May I listen to your wax recording? How is it rendered? All that I can do is believing your words? What a deception!
You can hear part of the wax recording simply by watching the video.
Have you seen the video? You can hear the recording...