@maimaicoh There is a blacklist which prevents people from using certain skills like ele shields, blocks, heals, etc. But a guardian's ex block is for auto block, so that can't really be blacklisted.
@93DLareg Mace is generally easier to use in PvP which is why most pallies use maces in PvP, but you can PvP with a flail and still be good. It will require more experience on behalf of the player though.
@DeathPorky it is possible, but you need skk lvl 3, lightning upper lvl 11, and Divine Combo if im not mistaken. To deliver it might be hard because there is very little video that paladin perform this combo.
@gazulpogi003 Not only is he using a flail, but it's so much more difficult to inf combo at the level 50 cap especially against an opponent that obviously knows what he's doing.
true. but then those 2 skills are like the only damage skills they have... so it really takes skill. especially when they are easily canceled or dodged. if you're a sorceress, use shockwave when they are close to the ground and they will be cancelled. basically any high armor breaking skill can cancel them. for crus, imo judgment hammer is for pve cuz it moves so slowly and in a straight line. if used correctly then it can deal quite high damage /watch?v=BuykTGVTSiA&feature=g-user
flails have an edge on some combos.maces are used if u want to make longer combos.lets say u used a flail and made it end the combo,u could use goddes relic easily because the enemies fly away from the last flail hit,which is different from the mace's..works with smite too.since smite kinda makes u move a bit forward..
I don't really know the full list... I only know the paladin softban, priest softban and the warrior class softban... Although... I think that would hamper them even more, since they lack short range prowess compared to other classes... They still hit hard though... and I think they have tactics to overcome that lack of escape skills in PVP...
depend on the player. u cant really say for certain which class is better than which. even the best crusader can be beaten by a guardian if he plays better than the crusader
Ahh, that one. I personally feel it's really cheap and people should train their characters by themselves. more so that you can get used to the character and know which skills to use. but if you're making a Guardian first before using the given lvl45 Crusader, then I think it's alright, since Guardian and Crusader are Paladins, so you can get used to their skills.
it is very obvious that the guardian's mace is plus 11 or 13 going up thats why he has the advantage of attack speed, look carefully to the guardians mace it glow color red and he hit the crusaders ass to very very fast(normal mace like plus 6 to plus 10 have only normal attacks speed. that is why the crusader has disadvantage of that match.
yeah. isnt it that clerics are popular because of their heal and them being tanks? besides, that maybe a friendly game. us in our guild, we hold softban games. clerics are allowed to heal but no blocks.
Besides, we don't have Dash, Not much Invincibility Frames(our only one is in a skill that takes 30 seconds to cool down), No high super armor skill, not much of a long range skill, no summons, and we only have very limited evasion techniques(only sliding dash and aerial recovery? Heck, we can't even slide out of danger.) Combine with the fact that our survival skills(block, stance of faith, iron will) are blacklisted, bingo: paladin extinction.What's up with that, Blacklisters?
thought the crusader has much better dmg out put, most pvpers tend to go the guardian route solemnly because of how good and powerful justice crash is.
try that lol I would like to see that happened while they can friggin destroy you with 1 or 2 skill while they can easily break your combo once every 10 seconds
Psh, if it's 1v1 of priests, I don't care if they ban heal. If it's 1v1 pallies, let em use it: it only heals 11% HP. I don't care if they ban it. If it's team battle, or heck, even Captain Mode, the Cleric would be dumb not to use heal to replenish his ally's health.
@zyron repolleza there both the paladin....you can chose guardian or crusader from paladin class ;p (but crusader is ovi better) but the way the guy is using crusader.... just seems so noobish
@bukinashitokui Are you talking to me?, well my answer to u is i know dn im playing as a pro crusader. and also im only telling the advantage and disadvantage of them, base in my observation and knowledge in dn, period!!. now u know!!! -^-
You should know that Crusader is bad at 1-1 pvp and because flail will do more critical damage than mace so many crusader used it.(Guardian usually used mace. :D)
then why don't you have someone boost you? It'll only take a week to level to 50. At least for one of them so you can experience being a Paladin. It'll be better than not knowing how to use any of your skills at all.
people here are telling either one or both of them arent pro. try getting into their game and see. yea, anyone can say they;re better or maybe just seen someone better but being pro has many ways. get a grip people -.- all talk. props to guardian tho,
@maimaicoh There is a blacklist which prevents people from using certain skills like ele shields, blocks, heals, etc. But a guardian's ex block is for auto block, so that can't really be blacklisted.
@AdieuSpades You can see the Crusader use God Within right after 9:40. It's the dual ultimate patch.
@93DLareg Mace is generally easier to use in PvP which is why most pallies use maces in PvP, but you can PvP with a flail and still be good. It will require more experience on behalf of the player though.
@ramilc789 Balance is on. You can see the settings at the beginning of the match.
@Sazerion He was hit by the Crusader's EX Goddess Relic and I believe he took on additional damage from the shock he received earlier.
@DeathPorky it is possible, but you need skk lvl 3, lightning upper lvl 11, and Divine Combo if im not mistaken. To deliver it might be hard because there is very little video that paladin perform this combo.
Mace Is The Best Weapon For A Guradian.....Very Impressive!
@yukastamo You mean the second kick? You need to have sliding knee kick at level 3.
@DeathPorky I've heard it was possible, but I've never seen it done. I know it's a lot more difficult to pull off than infinite combo with a mace.
@josephbanate For the SKK? You need level 3 SKK and you can double kick.
@gazulpogi003 Not only is he using a flail, but it's so much more difficult to inf combo at the level 50 cap especially against an opponent that obviously knows what he's doing.
true. but then those 2 skills are like the only damage skills they have... so it really takes skill. especially when they are easily canceled or dodged. if you're a sorceress, use shockwave when they are close to the ground and they will be cancelled. basically any high armor breaking skill can cancel them. for crus, imo judgment hammer is for pve cuz it moves so slowly and in a straight line. if used correctly then it can deal quite high damage
/watch?v=BuykTGVTSiA&feature=g-user
@senbad7franz The guardian is the one that uses God Within at the end of the match. :I
@yukastamo balance will disable all of equips using by the players.....so that you cant blame your equips as well.
What is the downward kick that the guy with the red hair is doing at 2:24?
flails have an edge on some combos.maces are used if u want to make longer combos.lets say u used a flail and made it end the combo,u could use goddes relic easily because the enemies fly away from the last flail hit,which is different from the mace's..works with smite too.since smite kinda makes u move a bit forward..
both jobs can use mace or flail. sorry for the late reply. i´m on vacation.
@ObscureWalrus Ah, didn't see that. Thanks for pointing it out.
I don't really know the full list... I only know the paladin softban, priest softban and the warrior class softban...
Although... I think that would hamper them even more, since they lack short range prowess compared to other classes...
They still hit hard though... and I think they have tactics to overcome that lack of escape skills in PVP...
With Sacred Hammering, Flail attacks just like Mace so the only difference is that the Flail is superior because it has better DPS due to the crit.
The "Jump to 45" Event. You can get free lvl 45 characters. Its on Dragon Nest NA.
@jhenimar606 Then y u don't know which enhancement make the weapon glow red ==
ohh even what 3rdjob in pala can use mace or flail ?
That's how fast a mace normally attacks. The Guardian, however, is moving quicker than most because of his cash shop stuff.
You can say one class tends to win over another. Guardians generally due better do to justice crashes stun+ Smite.
that is one badass guardian. Even in the first round when crus took advantage of him, he still won. Real pro dudes, real pro...
justice crash is a very good move if u know how to use it because it hits most of the time because the enemy wont see it coming
@DeathPorky The Guardian is using a mace.
good luck, all the best ^^
Its fine. I will learn a bit from lvls 45-50 then learn whatever else i need to in pvp.
what kick after slide knee kick he do?
depend on the player. u cant really say for certain which class is better than which. even the best crusader can be beaten by a guardian if he plays better than the crusader
sliding knee, it does a second kick at lvl6 I believe.
Yeah. I cant really comment on how hard they are to use. I main a pvp inquisitor but, im making a jump Crusader and Guardian for pvp.
I saw the crusader using the divine avatar at the end of round 6 is that a double ss?
well yeah :) i feel same way as ur friend :) but u should play as u like:P but maybe this can help . Flail is more for PVE , and Mace is more for PVP.
in my experience, Flail is alitte weaker than the Mace, but the Flail works great with all the magic spells - and Mace is more for the Melee Paladin.
Ahh, that one. I personally feel it's really cheap and people should train their characters by themselves. more so that you can get used to the character and know which skills to use. but if you're making a Guardian first before using the given lvl45 Crusader, then I think it's alright, since Guardian and Crusader are Paladins, so you can get used to their skills.
what do you mean by "jump"?
How come the guardian attack speed so fast? O.O im taking mace but attack speed also not that fast eh… =/
14:10 Dang that one cross took like 64% of his hp!
why that gurdian dont use block like the crusader??XD
@Tarrrhhhaaa Well, we're not too behind at least!
i wish they also allowedthe cleric class and its other descendants to use a spear like thing which matches the crusader more lol.
I've never seen someone that high in PVP rank. That's awesome! ^^
it is very obvious that the guardian's mace is plus 11 or 13 going up thats why he has the advantage of attack speed, look carefully to the guardians mace it glow color red and he hit the crusaders ass to very very fast(normal mace like plus 6 to plus 10 have only normal attacks speed. that is why the crusader has disadvantage of that match.
wut is best weapon for crusader
what is your skill build can you send it to me?
What is that skill in 1:12
if i guardian can i use flail for good ? just asking :)
yeah. isnt it that clerics are popular because of their heal and them being tanks? besides, that maybe a friendly game. us in our guild, we hold softban games. clerics are allowed to heal but no blocks.
Besides, we don't have Dash, Not much Invincibility Frames(our only one is in a skill that takes 30 seconds to cool down), No high super armor skill, not much of a long range skill, no summons, and we only have very limited evasion techniques(only sliding dash and aerial recovery? Heck, we can't even slide out of danger.)
Combine with the fact that our survival skills(block, stance of faith, iron will) are blacklisted, bingo: paladin extinction.What's up with that, Blacklisters?
Intense o.o
14:13 actually.. that was a freakin' damage @_@
can u send me ur skill build?
whos better in pvp generaly speaking crusader or guardian?
oh my god justice crash is so nice... NA CLIENT WHY ARE YOU SO BEHIND?!
6:33 guys chill... he just said "HAHAHA" :3
newbie here who's the crusader in this vid?
which one is crusader ?
This is just plain humiliation for Crusader -_-
thought the crusader has much better dmg out put, most pvpers tend to go the guardian route solemnly because of how good and powerful justice crash is.
hahaha red glow is +13 and +14 ~ and his sheld is Legend Sea Dragon O.O
try that lol
I would like to see that happened while they can friggin destroy you with 1 or 2 skill while they can easily break your combo once every 10 seconds
Which is better ?
Guardian or Paladin ?
i have the pvp skill build of that pala (guardian)..
that crusader isn't experienced enough, otherwise it would have been an even match.
round 1 : worst humiliation for crusader
Psh, if it's 1v1 of priests, I don't care if they ban heal.
If it's 1v1 pallies, let em use it: it only heals 11% HP. I don't care if they ban it.
If it's team battle, or heck, even Captain Mode, the Cleric would be dumb not to use heal to replenish his ally's health.
@megadeth0902 Great comment I love it. U understand dn very well
These are not my characters.
The Crusader is the one with the blue hair.
This is probably true but whenever I watch guardians vs crusaders... guardians seem to always have the winning factor with Justice Crash
plsss answer fast
thanks
ok thanks its really exactly :)
ROUND 2 is an overkill
@zyron repolleza there both the paladin....you can chose guardian or crusader from paladin class ;p (but crusader is ovi better) but the way the guy is using crusader.... just seems so noobish
Judgenebt hanmer is mad easy to dodge lol and hard to use close up if they got armor break in ur face
lol @zmbjak you use cleric so you will know how hard to kill -.-, and if ur a real pro softban is nothing and this is just a game
@bukinashitokui Are you talking to me?, well my answer to u is i know dn im playing as a pro crusader.
and also im only telling the advantage and disadvantage of them, base in my observation and knowledge in dn, period!!. now u know!!! -^-
It hit like...once...
the one with the blue hair.
Just with 9 HP he is torturing and taunting the Crusader :D
intense indeed.... but the guardian is just SO not pro... and i'm wondering why at least the crusader doesn't have the sacred hammer buff on o.O
what a great match
You should know that Crusader is bad at 1-1 pvp
and because flail will do more critical damage than mace
so many crusader used it.(Guardian usually used mace. :D)
then why don't you have someone boost you? It'll only take a week to level to 50. At least for one of them so you can experience being a Paladin. It'll be better than not knowing how to use any of your skills at all.
but why is the guardian winning?.. >__< i'm confused
patakkaaa
lol the crusader just spammed all his skills, didnt even try to combo
the crusader has obviously no idea what he's doing....
the crusader is depending too much on his magic skill, n he just spamming it without proper aim.. sad to see crusader being humiliated this much..
people here are telling either one or both of them arent pro. try getting into their game and see. yea, anyone can say they;re better or maybe just seen someone better but being pro has many ways. get a grip people -.- all talk. props to guardian tho,
round 1 fuck that epic
the gaurd was awsome!
What the fuck did I just witness...
what a kick ist on 02 :26 min
lol becuz the guard knew how to combo crusader didnt and crusader isnt better depends on how good the player is
i thought the red haired one was a girl at first.
same as real warriors never use HL in 1 on 1 softban pvp.