Henry Chalfant and Martha Cooper should be admired as much as any of the top artists. .. the fact they were so intrigued by the movement and people involved, in something which a lot of the general public hated or dispised. ..without them there would have been no style wars. no subway art book. all praises due.
Thanks for posting this slice of 'Hip Hop' history. Shout to all those that have passed : - Kippy Dee, Shy 147, IZ the Wiz, Kase (2), Rammellzee, Dondi, members of RSC, & others RIP. - Forever young.
@@tartgreenapple Unfortunately he’s probably right, there are 2 of the original Rock Steady Crew who have crossed over to another dimension, and the rest of the names listed are old enough to have died of natural causes or other things. I wonder how I’m still alive sometimes.
@@tartgreenapple When you grow up during the entire Graffiti and B.Boy era, you get to know all the players of the game and in one form or another we were all connected. During the early days, before all these movies and documentaries were filmed, graffiti and bboying had a very small audience. Hardly anyone outside of NYC knew the deal. So, it's easy to get word when someone in this circle gets killed or dies. Most people that were not on this scene and not from NYC were not informed and would not have a clue of who's who...even 40 years later. But, for the people that were hip to this...there was always someone that would pass the word that so and so died or got murdered and it would spread like wildfire.
Even though RAMMELZEE was apparently at the vanguard of many shows, gigs and tours that gave him exposure during the 80s, I feel his contribution is truly under-documented. I know some of his artwork is sold for mad money today, yet I have never seen a picture of a piece or even a tag from him on a subway. How is that ? I mean look at how DONDI himself struggles at explaining the crazy artwork of RAMMELZEE 😮
@12:30 OG explains That Popppin, Electric Boogie, Poplockin originated from the West Coast, L.A. That should of been left in the Movie. Very Important the West Coasts contributions to Hiphop.
Good points. But, the Electric Boogie and Pop Lockin really was not invented on the coast. B.boying, Breaking and Graffiti was always a New York Thing. The gentleman that speaks of it is Kippy Dee aka RaShawn, he lived across the street from me in the Douglass projects in Manhattan. When he arrived in NYC he really wasn't doing much of any dancing, due to his young age. His people showed him what was happening in NYC before he moved here. So, he was simply doing his thing in LA on his own, before he moved here to Manhattan. Sadly, Kippy was murdered quite a while back here in NYC. If the electric boogie and pop lockin was invented in LA, you would have heard about from more people, other than Kippy. Alas, the reason it was NOT in the "Movie." Peace and Love!
Thank you for posting this. I have never seen this footage. I always say this documentary is one of the best ever made on so many levels. When I saw it on PBS back in the 1980's it changed my life along with Henry and Martha's book. Respect to Vulcan Films NYC - I think they were involved with the whole Style Wars film production.
Yeah Bernie Jacobs, you were right! Thank God ppl. thought they could do it. And better they did! An evolution of an American artform that still evolves and lives today.
He was notorious, due to all the pieces he destroyed. He was known more than most. Nowadays, whenever Cap goes to graffiti reunions, he is embraced by the same writers he went over. All that beef was squashed, everyone grew up. One of the main reasons nobody could touch him, is his neighborhood was mostly working class white and people looking for him would have been chased with bats, if they crossed the line. That yard was his and he did as he pleased. Peace!
Does anybody know how Shy 147 passed away? I have been trying to find info on his death for over 15 years! I know he died back in 84 very early in the game
I remember Jimmy Lee from 183rd & Creston. Probably doing life. Dudes became stick up kids and killed 3 Korean store owners on Burnside Ave in The Bx 😞
That's the African American guy who co-found the Rock Steady Crew in 1977. He went off to college in the early 80s. In a 2013 hip hop reunion,, Crazy Legs introduced him to the crowd
theres always rules though. .. i know hes a god when it comes to the bombing mentality. ..but on the other hand he probably destroyed a ton of iconic artwork which may have never even been documented. .. dont matter where your from now, theres always some toy with no skill just dying to start beef to make a name. ..but thats the game now, its a vicious cycle.
@@villiantwo cap is who the producers of beat street based the character "spit" on. he fucked up alot of sweet burners in his day and had a kos "kill on site" order. hes some shit.
I love has these young cats from / who knows where Bubba butts/ talk about Puerto Ricans an even white Brothers , are culture vultures. when the Bronx is the home of Hip Hop. Never did there home work. that's why they fail!
I tell my sons they missed out on the real world...pre-2001. Everywhere was gritty, criminal...a hot LIVELY mess!! Had to have ur wits, couldn't be a punk. Bittersweet.
Henry Chalfant and Martha Cooper should be admired as much as any of the top artists. .. the fact they were so intrigued by the movement and people involved, in something which a lot of the general public hated or dispised. ..without them there would have been no style wars. no subway art book. all praises due.
Subway art is my favorite book
Fr, they saw something there when the entire city was against them. So much history would've been lost w/o it.
They are. Check out Martha coopers week with 1UP (one of the best worldwide graff crews). It's wonderful
Style wars was a masterpiece, still watch it a few times a year
@Bhodisatvas uuu
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@Bhodisatvas m.m.m.mm..k...kmk
K.k.kkk..m.kkk.mkkkk.kkkkkkk.k.kkmkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk.
Keep it on loop 😎
40 years on....who would of thought..thank you to all those people who brought this into the world👍🏻🇬🇧
Kase sounds like he is freestyle rapping at all times when he speaks
Thanks for posting this slice of 'Hip Hop' history. Shout to all those that have passed : -
Kippy Dee,
Shy 147,
IZ the Wiz,
Kase (2),
Rammellzee,
Dondi,
members of RSC,
& others
RIP. - Forever young.
Man it’s crazy to see more evidence that Ram was on a whole other level even back then
How do you know all of these people died? It's not that I dont believe, but it would be hard to collect all this information.
@@tartgreenapple Unfortunately he’s probably right, there are 2 of the original Rock Steady Crew who have crossed over to another dimension, and the rest of the names listed are old enough to have died of natural causes or other things.
I wonder how I’m still alive sometimes.
@@tartgreenapple When you grow up during the entire Graffiti and B.Boy era, you get to know all the players of the game and in one form or another we were all connected. During the early days, before all these movies and documentaries were filmed, graffiti and bboying had a very small audience. Hardly anyone outside of NYC knew the deal. So, it's easy to get word when someone in this circle gets killed or dies. Most people that were not on this scene and not from NYC were not informed and would not have a clue of who's who...even 40 years later. But, for the people that were hip to this...there was always someone that would pass the word that so and so died or got murdered and it would spread like wildfire.
@@Younghead Word up!
6:36 RIP RAMELLEZEE RIP DONDI. I LOVE GRAFFITI, I LOVE NEW YORK. I LOVE HOW THIS SHOWS HOW RAM WAS ALWAYS SO OUT THERE
Even though RAMMELZEE was apparently at the vanguard of many shows, gigs and tours that gave him exposure during the 80s, I feel his contribution is truly under-documented. I know some of his artwork is sold for mad money today, yet I have never seen a picture of a piece or even a tag from him on a subway. How is that ? I mean look at how DONDI himself struggles at explaining the crazy artwork of RAMMELZEE 😮
We've lost a lot of amazing graffiti artists...all these guys were my idols...so much paint
These cuts is underrated shout out to the ogs of the game pavin the wayy
They must really wanted to keep it to about an hour filmlength because this shit belongs in it
To call this documentary a legend would not do it justice. It is the beginning of a revolution and the birth of a culture, almost a religion.
Exactly
"I didn't mind generating my generosity"
Dondi was a master... those whole car pieces are to my mind the best ever, plus Duster was also an original...
Dondi was on another level, I’m still waiting to see another Dondi
Imo the best documentary ever made.
WOW MY DAYS I FEEL YOUNG AGAIN
Dondi seems so chill
I wish there was more of him in the original
Outstanding, big historical film documentary, a timeless part of the B - Boy culture.
Dondi was beyond brilliant, articulate and talented in a way that’s only getting properly recognised
Using letters as weapons! Sick asf!
Rammellzee was / is the GOAT from outer space. Guy was a mad genius.
An unstoppable creative force.
Totem2
@@mossadon100% facts
A bygone era one of the best times in NYC
@12:30 OG explains That Popppin, Electric Boogie, Poplockin originated from the West Coast, L.A. That should of been left in the Movie. Very Important the West Coasts contributions to Hiphop.
Good points. But, the Electric Boogie and Pop Lockin really was not invented on the coast. B.boying, Breaking and Graffiti was always a New York Thing.
The gentleman that speaks of it is Kippy Dee aka RaShawn, he lived across the street from me in the Douglass projects in Manhattan. When he arrived in NYC he really wasn't doing much of any dancing, due to his young age. His people showed him what was happening in NYC before he moved here. So, he was simply doing his thing in LA on his own, before he moved here to Manhattan.
Sadly, Kippy was murdered quite a while back here in NYC.
If the electric boogie and pop lockin was invented in LA, you would have heard about from more people, other than Kippy. Alas, the reason it was NOT in the "Movie."
Peace and Love!
I would like to say these young men created something out of nothing , but when you really listen to them closely you will find knowledge of self .
Thank you for posting this. I have never seen this footage. I always say this documentary is one of the best ever made on so many levels. When I saw it on PBS back in the 1980's it changed my life along with Henry and Martha's book. Respect to Vulcan Films NYC - I think they were involved with the whole Style Wars film production.
Yeah Bernie Jacobs, you were right! Thank God ppl. thought they could do it. And better they did! An evolution of an American artform that still evolves and lives today.
Dondi wearing a futura 2000 shirt.
Dondi is without a doubt one of the most talented genuine geniuses to come out of 1980s era NYC graffiti, his talent was unmatched.
That dondi and ram ell zee piece is the dogs danglies.
There would be no documentary without Cap and the King SEEN!
R.I.P.-B-BOY TAKE ONE🙌🏽🙌🏽MISS YOU DAVID💯THE EPIC STYLE WARS! 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯💯💯💯💯💣💣💣💣💣💣💣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
He has fun to do😂😂😂
Paint in heaven King Dondi
12:37 Bobby Shmurda is a time traveler. Wow how long has he been with us?
Lol. Could be his pops. Damn near twins. Especially since this clip is from 40 years ago.
Imagine how much those old subway cars would be worth if You had them today
Lady pink is so pretty .The 80's in NYC WAS A BLAST.
EVEN THOUGH THEY LEFT HIM OUT-MADLOVE TO TRACY 168-KING OF KINGSBRIDGE-R.I.P.🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽💯💯💯💯💯💙
6:00
Nice Futura ghetto blaster Tee..
anyone saw that design before?
still shocked that *CAP* was actually known. Most of this was filmed from 80 - 82
He was notorious, due to all the pieces he destroyed. He was known more than most. Nowadays, whenever Cap goes to graffiti reunions, he is embraced by the same writers he went over. All that beef was squashed, everyone grew up.
One of the main reasons nobody could touch him, is his neighborhood was mostly working class white and people looking for him would have been chased with bats, if they crossed the line. That yard was his and he did as he pleased. Peace!
@@DaveNiceNYC nobody seems to know that MPC had an entire small yard to themselves from 75 to 89
*S҉K҉E҉M҉E҉* still around
6:33 armed letters. If it were actual, it would be a weapon, it would be a tank… Man, these were the visionaries, 83, come on !
We gon get you SKEME 👑
...The one thumbs down was probably from Cap! Lol
😂
U lol
nah, cap could be a good guy, that should never have happened ... peace ✌️ 😌
RIP SHY 147!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
DJ JEFF FRIZZILL how did He die
30:18 Love that photo, 'Kodakman'. . . Chalfant in his Clyde's!
Timeless
Iconic
saw it in 85, still doing graffiti today
I was there mpc had the Morris Park train tunnel on lock I met rook mpc graffiti writer elrock introduced me to him those were the days
Does anybody know how Shy 147 passed away? I have been trying to find info on his death for over 15 years! I know he died back in 84 very early in the game
From what I read he died from a Motorcycle Accident.
It’s my understanding that he died of Leukemia
From what I've heard he died from AIDS
AIDS according to CRASH
Lol damn nobody knows for sure. I did hear someone else say motorcycle crash
One thing about old school is that STYLE WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT.
yep! now you got this anti graffiti style... im sick of it .. just looks like toys getting up
Crazy Legs
Cap is about the largest dust head ever
nobody got shit on the Pittsburgh Paint bandit MOOK, that boy reinvented the "tag".
Only New Yorkers can understand the true meaning of this video
im from melbourne and was born 20 years after these guys, i understand it... i can feel it.
says you
Big up Cathy/Kathy.
IZ RIP you was a Don G. ALL CITY KING
0:02 He was right
More power!
yo lady pink is smokin
yeah i think she still smokes
She hoooot
13:00 that looks like Animation. Or somebody I recognize.
Does anyone know if there is any way of hearing all the answering machine messages?
🤘🏻!
Henry. The Boss
him and martha dont get enough credit. they saw something in what most of the public frowned upon. legends
13:30 Mister Freeze, from Paris ? Who was he ?
RMLZ rock on DONDI in the house!
Is that khawi?
uhuhhuhuhihuhuhuh
11:05 crazy legs rock steady crew
Yes, some good footage of him too. It's sad he's no longer with us.
yo from ukraine!
it's great movie.very fab job)
Yo back from Kaliforn1a!
do you write something?
I remember Jimmy Lee from 183rd & Creston. Probably doing life. Dudes became stick up kids and killed 3 Korean store owners on Burnside Ave in The Bx 😞
God damn…
What happened to Jimmy Dee?
That's the African American guy who co-found the Rock Steady Crew in 1977. He went off to college in the early 80s. In a 2013 hip hop reunion,, Crazy Legs introduced him to the crowd
Proper
At 19:25 DUSTER TAGG
what was With iz left eye
Tomi Marko what do you mean?
Polish Sausage the Black Dude With (dont kno How 2 Call it) this pirate on he's left eye ....the Dude With a swastika hangin on he wall
Tomi Marko What? Lol
18:58 even had bad lag back in the 80s lol
What was the Artist name that dondi mentioned who spoke on armor letterscience. .?
Ramallzee
ram
W3rd!
CAP is what I think graffiti should be no rules we're breaking the law so anything goes.
theres always rules though. .. i know hes a god when it comes to the bombing mentality. ..but on the other hand he probably destroyed a ton of iconic artwork which may have never even been documented. .. dont matter where your from now, theres always some toy with no skill just dying to start beef to make a name. ..but thats the game now, its a vicious cycle.
@@villiantwo cap is who the producers of beat street based the character "spit" on. he fucked up alot of sweet burners in his day and had a kos "kill on site" order. hes some shit.
最早的嘻哈纪录片
3:36 That's DJ Drama
Tyhler Novac Dj Drama was born 1978. He would of been 5 years old.
Tyhler Novac , that’s the drama king , dj Kay slay , Harlem world 💯
Dez aka Dj Kay Slay The Drama King.
No dummy skeme tmt
Is Martha Cooper still as beautifull as she was? She was real hot
Crazy legs& Bom5 thumbnail💯(no comment on raping the culture😜)
damn it you guys, dont you see....its all graffiti hahahah
4:35 Biggie Smalls?
R.I.P Miss Skeme
Lady Pink is hot af
I love has these young cats from / who knows where Bubba butts/ talk about Puerto Ricans an even white Brothers , are culture vultures. when the Bronx is the home of Hip Hop. Never did there home work. that's why they fail!
The is you to Dance breakers hip-hop art work
Miusc
Movies wild style
14:35
ZΣΣ
SHY 147 WAS TRASH IN MY EYES👈🏼 HE NEVER EVOLVED🤡
ʤ₰₯
I tell my sons they missed out on the real world...pre-2001. Everywhere was gritty, criminal...a hot LIVELY mess!! Had to have ur wits, couldn't be a punk. Bittersweet.
thank you for uploading this friend..
It wouldn't be a movie without cap
Cap represent the worst of the graffity culture
I have the subway book
Cap was a real Jealous Toy.
No, maybe to kids who are unfamiliar to big city life. But anyone from a 5 million plus city worldwide knows these characters will inevitably exist