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This guy should not only wear a cape daily but should also receive a call from the Avengers 😁👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾! Love this guy!!! I hope, as technology continues to evolve, that there will be more innovative creators who care about the well being of those for whom they create (general public) and the space in which they create (earth). Infinite love and good vibes to you 🙏🏾❤️😁
I know it's just an expression and you meant well, but Pavel is nothing like Zuckerberg who discloses our privacy for money and fame. It's quite disrespectful to Pavel to compare him to Zuckerberg
@@fansspost3525 in Durov's interview with tucker carlson he explains how he had to leave russia and several other countries because governments were pressuring him to disclose the information of the people who supported the opposition. Since Zuck doesn't look like he's in bad terms with the gov im only assuming he complied🤷 Anyways you have to have experienced how your preferences are strangely popping up across platforms, you know the "algorithm"😬
I don't know how to take them all out. I gave him all I could, and if he can sue them, he can have it all. Money is bad for me. I love this guy. Even though we don't know our statuses, which is inhumane, and I had to internalize my suffering and wonder why I wasn't allowed to do anything or have any rights, this is the guy I want to serve. They make me blame myself for my unavoidable crimes. I'd like to not do that anymore. I just love him because he's beautiful and smart, and I want him to be happy just as a person. I'm not offering my corpse. I want to leave and go somewhere else.
Alux!!! One day i will spread my word around the world about this fascinating youtube chanel. This is so inspirable! As russian i can say, we love this guy even we don`t know him at all. Павел Валерьевич, мы ждем интервью с вами
Nah, as far as this association goes, I think he's smarter and more aware. Plus, he has to dress like a movie character and be mysterious. Many people hear voices. Schizophrenic combat, even though voices are not always from schizophrenia, is hilarious. My voices don't like your voices. Since I had mine in childhood they weren't bad until replaced or when I did ADIDAS all day. Here are what my voices were original adult-wise. First, we have the cheerleader who made comments about my math ability, "You can't even prove two lines are parallel and such. Then we had Alma, the good one who was always looking out for me. Then we had the three children who played tricks on me and made me do things. Then we had Cizin who was the worst. When my brain was first swelling up and down, he was in the backseat, and I could smell my blood. They locked me up and he was in the room with me that time. I've had omens, too. Of course, the bridge would have broken that night. I was sitting with Cizin in the back and unable to laugh at such things as usual. Now I respond to cues.
1st answer: I guess it depends on the situation or happening to let them borrow that information. Information is so invaluable and should not be handed on things that would possibly go wrong. My 2nd answer: Yes I care about encryption, it protects someone information that yes I care about it. Have a good day to the one reading this! ♡
@@wealth53 oooo noo sir i am not being cheap.. I just asked.. For speaking nobody charges me.. I my human right so... If vpn is my right give it for free...
It's his fault I started using the internet again though. He said I needed to talk to people. Look what happens when Kaela talks to people... it's inevitable for me anyway. Seriously, the population is trained to attack me.
Most people strike one amazing idea or business in their lifetime but he has managed to create two amazing and impactful tech companies, this is beyond amazing!
Hey Alux, I've realised that your videos sometimes align with certain stages in my journey, and I'm about to enter a short but interesting new chapter. I'm about to learn how to write a best "selling" book. I thought it would be interesting to hear what you guys could come up with if you did some digging and created a video on it. it would align well with the deal you have with audible but I guess you also have to take into account how valuable it is to your followers. Anyways it was an interesting thought
Here is the thing: if an app or business is open, your can find bad guys, pedophiles, terrorists, etc. rather easily. But you also take advantage of innocent people too. Especially if they piss off totalitarian governments. But if you create a very secure app, you protect those people from those totalitarian governments, but you also protect the aforementioned bad guys. It is a no win situation.
Although Telegram is restricted/filtered in Iran, it's still the most popular social media application here. And you may want to know one of the organizations which offered Durov bribe was IRGC.
I'm not triggered as badly. Programming gone bad or on autopilot. Of course, I have a fantasy about this guy. He's very attractive and smart. I am ugly and not. I can only imagine. I am a pain to live with, and I make a lot of noises when I sleep. Honestly, cruelty will never stop in my society. That's why I wanted to go to a decent institution. But of course not. I am bored of it.
This guy managed to come up with 17 billion, unfortunately. He'll never be trapped by me :P I only made the remark about Marilyn Manson because I attract untalented, pathetic artists who are mostly provocateurs here with my elementary school poetry and stories. At times, I go into modes where I have a perfect meter and it becomes profound, but I don't credit myself with that as a talent. It's my brain damage, not anything I've worked for.
Simply amazing I would not of had his courage to openly defy the Russian establishment. Anywhere the powers that be are so because they crush people it's more affective to change from within.
I learned a lot in this video. Thank you so much Alux for always giving and adding value to our lives. And for free by just watching your videos. 😊 I appreciate it.
No, they should get it by themselves and I care about encryption. I believe tech is make for good and bad things but I don't believe bad things need to be let run especially in Telegram. If Telegram wanna keeps alive, it should deal with it or else somebody else that has the power will force you to deal with it.
I've had a ton of others, but those were mine. I'm sure it's every math teacher's dream that I would hear voices about my inability. Does any other person get something so lame?
Hello Alux.com. I think that governments should not interfere between public chats that is unethical. Well thanku so much Alux.com for this wonderful video. My day is incomplete without watching your video 😇
Let's see if Mr. Badass can get through the door. I want an existence besides basic survival. I'm tired of it. We've been doing this since 4. They can have this paradise without me. There is nothing for me to look forward to here, no classes (I used to take one at a time), can't write well, no stories to tell besides basic ones, no job promotion. It's endless dodging them without being able to even believe I have control or will win. Sometimes, I do win, but I don't delude myself into thinking that escaping once or twice will bring peace.
If I can ever write again, I will write a comedy about my first real relationship and give my ex anything I earn, which won't be much, to my poor ex. I'm sorry :(.
Arguing with me is pointless for most things. The people who argue with me here mostly argue with themselves and project onto me. As I've said many times, I did not say that. My brain is not doing so well. If I have no thought and don't ask why, they will win? How is that going for them? Most arguments are when I'm trying to simply explain something, like why did they torture me when I could have helped my siblings? They knew what happened. And then after that, they want me to work and find a partner. um... you can't explain it to them. They never hear you. Other than that, it's trying to get me to remember to do a task or explain what you want me to do or say. The "pure" have aligned me with the garbage can. "Supermassive Black Hole." There's nothing I wouldn't do if anyone would try to fix my brain. Partial off :( That's all "they" do for millions. I got the freak factor.
Security has become a valuable asset nowadays, Encryption is a must added gemstone that everybody should hold. Having a database of the people is ok; like a passport. The limits and laws should be set. But to what extent the government can get more profound with the information is a question mark?
This guy's issues don't matter that much, but I love him, if I could feel love. I would like to either go to a mental institution where they wouldn't abuse me outside of the US, fix my brain (my main desire), let me move in ;), or put me in a small apartment out of a NATO country. Unfortunately, I can't be totally independent. I wish I could have my brain fixed. Then I'd still have to leave all NATO countries. They will never stop hunting me here. I'm merely offended by what they call "evolutionary successes" after years of trying to earn something, to help my siblings who were gifted, or to have a simple life. I was in shape then, too.
If you can code, then join a coding group. Find your buddies then you guys can create an app together. Then found your own startup around the app or opt for freelancing. In case you don't know how to program, you gotta learn that first. Good luck
INTERESTING STORY...THANK YOU SO MUCH...IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONTACT PAVEL DUROV OR HIS BROTHER...???I HAVE INTERESTING IDEA ...AND MAYBE THEY WILL LIKE IT TO TURN THE IDEA IN TO THE NEW COMPANY AND CHANGE THE WORLD FOR BETTER...>>> ONE FOR ALL STANDARD RATING SYSTEM
Wow! Sounds totally better than Facebook, really! Especially when Facebook gets on your case when it comes to political opinions that they do not like!
Great info on Pavel. I was hoping you guys could make a video on building a luxury brand? Like what high end brands all have in common, how they market themselves, ect?
I already read about half of that book, "HOW TO BUILD A BILLION $ APP", but I had to "let if go". The book give you very interesting info and is VERY meticulous about all the process, from the start to the billions range, so, at one point, is too much for me (right now at least). Thanks for sharing !
Hot, brilliant, a rebel, hard-worker, independent-minded: this is the kinda guy who makes women wet. Seat me at a quiet table, please, with him, the Japanese creator of bitcoin, and Edward Snowden... I'd be the happiest person alive.....star-struck!
I never knew this telegram app existed 😂 but I like the sound of it “ privacy “ and No 👎 no one should have access to destroy our freedom of speech nor ban our Human rights ! I’m moving now. Bye bye Mark Zucchini suckers 😂
Hey Aluxers, let us know what you think about Durov's life so far!
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Unlike Zuckerberg however, Durov actually cares about people's privacy.
faissialoo totally agree 😄🙏
faissialoo
Looks like a warlock in tbe screenshot.
Exactly. He is an opposite, not an alike.
Yeah right, you naive fuck.
The End of Madness could you elaborate?
“Privacy is a human right.” That’s markedly different from Mark Zuckerberg’s actions.
Thank you.
Pavel didn't create vk and telegram(his brother created it ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Durov
Given that Mr.Durov had to overcome higher odds and more obstacles, May be Mr.Zuckerberg is
the American Durov.Just saying .
Nah. Zuckerberg was first. He inspired Durov.
@@entreptiles Inspired is too strong a word.Otherwise you must concede that Myspsce inspired Zuckerburg , Not to mention the twin Harvard students
Totally
Nah. Jonathan abrams did it first
Well said
His father was my teacher in Saint Petersburg state university , charisma is from him
Rewlly
He's better the Mark Zuckerberg any day
He's mark zuckerberg BUT RUSSIAN (to be read in the toughest voice)
@@Do2494 hahaha
He's so fine too
Absolutely AMAZING guy!
*Privacy is not for sale, and human rights should not be compromised out of fear or greed.*
*- PAVEL DUROV*
Pavel Durov for President US
Pavel Durov - Russia’s Mark Zuckerberg ...No Alux ; it should be
Mark Zuckerberg - America's Pavel Durov
Why compare with a person ,who is actually opposite to him
Durov is one truly genius man on earth. Just like Snowden, he do really care about people's privacy.
Russian swat: This is Russian police, open the door.
Durov: No!
Russian swat: Ok, we'll leave you be.
Russian Swat - Omon
Putin and Pavel have similar moral-code "privacy". They are both masterminds and they both know it😂
@@greenfly6640how can MAN COMPARE PAVEL DUROV and Putin.?. They are not comparable at all. Pavel is genius!!!!!!!!
Privacy is the gold of this century.
Payel Durov, really incredible man. I didn't know him before I watched this video. I am glad I did.
Did you install the app so ? 💪
Telegram is the best app ever
@@RiaLuna1 So true !
What is your @ ?
Mark Zuck can not hold a candle to the skills of Pavel Durov.
Hacker from russian is superb
Great people comes through worst situations
Actually he started working on Telegram even before selling VK and leaving Russia
I'm now a Russian citizen (originally from Cape Town, South Africa) and I walked past his office in Saint Petersburg, Russia.
why u went to St Petersburg ? Cape town is a magic city
This guy should not only wear a cape daily but should also receive a call from the Avengers 😁👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾! Love this guy!!!
I hope, as technology continues to evolve, that there will be more innovative creators who care about the well being of those for whom they create (general public) and the space in which they create (earth).
Infinite love and good vibes to you 🙏🏾❤️😁
This guy's picture makes me so happy.
Me2
I know it's just an expression and you meant well, but Pavel is nothing like Zuckerberg who discloses our privacy for money and fame. It's quite disrespectful to Pavel to compare him to Zuckerberg
Why people know about it?from where?I dont know mark selling our information for money...
@@fansspost3525 in Durov's interview with tucker carlson he explains how he had to leave russia and several other countries because governments were pressuring him to disclose the information of the people who supported the opposition. Since Zuck doesn't look like he's in bad terms with the gov im only assuming he complied🤷
Anyways you have to have experienced how your preferences are strangely popping up across platforms, you know the "algorithm"😬
@@Lululaufey but i think putin has a good attention for the world, unluckly his en*my not same with him..
I don't know how to take them all out. I gave him all I could, and if he can sue them, he can have it all. Money is bad for me. I love this guy. Even though we don't know our statuses, which is inhumane, and I had to internalize my suffering and wonder why I wasn't allowed to do anything or have any rights, this is the guy I want to serve. They make me blame myself for my unavoidable crimes. I'd like to not do that anymore. I just love him because he's beautiful and smart, and I want him to be happy just as a person. I'm not offering my corpse. I want to leave and go somewhere else.
For coders like me and others he is insparation
And unlike Mark.z he is serious about privacy.
He’s the greatest! I adore Telegram and I love Pavel Durov 🙏🏼
for privacy reasons I can't share my opinion about privacy
Alux!!! One day i will spread my word around the world about this fascinating youtube chanel. This is so inspirable!
As russian i can say, we love this guy even we don`t know him at all. Павел Валерьевич, мы ждем интервью с вами
This dude is one serious genius
Mark is America's Paval Durov..........
Stupid dictatorship always kicks out such talented geniuses.... shame
Nah, as far as this association goes, I think he's smarter and more aware. Plus, he has to dress like a movie character and be mysterious. Many people hear voices. Schizophrenic combat, even though voices are not always from schizophrenia, is hilarious. My voices don't like your voices. Since I had mine in childhood they weren't bad until replaced or when I did ADIDAS all day. Here are what my voices were original adult-wise. First, we have the cheerleader who made comments about my math ability, "You can't even prove two lines are parallel and such. Then we had Alma, the good one who was always looking out for me. Then we had the three children who played tricks on me and made me do things. Then we had Cizin who was the worst. When my brain was first swelling up and down, he was in the backseat, and I could smell my blood. They locked me up and he was in the room with me that time. I've had omens, too. Of course, the bridge would have broken that night. I was sitting with Cizin in the back and unable to laugh at such things as usual. Now I respond to cues.
1st answer: I guess it depends on the situation or happening to let them borrow that information. Information is so invaluable and should not be handed on things that would possibly go wrong.
My 2nd answer: Yes I care about encryption, it protects someone information that yes I care about it.
Have a good day to the one reading this! ♡
I’m loving this new alux👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 never thought you could improve something that was already so great!!! Keep up the good work
Thank you 💙
I'm a western expat that's now living in Russia, Sochi 🇷🇺
Good for you
Aaron Sorkin and David Fincher from 'The Social network' should make a movie on this plot ! This will be wayy interesting
Truly Inspirational Thanks Alux !!
Our pleasure!!
I have a question... If privacy is a human right.. Why not give vpn for free... Why charge money for it...
because without funding, VPN would not exist, do not be cheap, it is only $100 for 3 years!
@@wealth53 oooo noo sir i am not being cheap.. I just asked.. For speaking nobody charges me.. I my human right so... If vpn is my right give it for free...
PRIVACY IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.
It's his fault I started using the internet again though. He said I needed to talk to people. Look what happens when Kaela talks to people... it's inevitable for me anyway. Seriously, the population is trained to attack me.
Most people strike one amazing idea or business in their lifetime but he has managed to create two amazing and impactful tech companies, this is beyond amazing!
Durov don't copied,he only make a better
Hey Alux,
I've realised that your videos sometimes align with certain stages in my journey, and I'm about to enter a short but interesting new chapter.
I'm about to learn how to write a best "selling" book. I thought it would be interesting to hear what you guys could come up with if you did some digging and created a video on it. it would align well with the deal you have with audible but I guess you also have to take into account how valuable it is to your followers. Anyways it was an interesting thought
Absolute genius this guy..
Im loving telegram right now
Here is the thing: if an app or business is open, your can find bad guys, pedophiles, terrorists, etc. rather easily. But you also take advantage of innocent people too. Especially if they piss off totalitarian governments. But if you create a very secure app, you protect those people from those totalitarian governments, but you also protect the aforementioned bad guys. It is a no win situation.
The Right to Privacy--this is what Pavel Durov is like. Now and forever.We, Telegram users, appreciate his position very much and fully accept it!
Although Telegram is restricted/filtered in Iran, it's still the most popular social media application here. And you may want to know one of the organizations which offered Durov bribe was IRGC.
Alux.. I really like your old format of listing the numbers on the bottom. Will you bring that back?
I care about my privacy more than my social status
perfect in everyway
I'm not triggered as badly. Programming gone bad or on autopilot. Of course, I have a fantasy about this guy. He's very attractive and smart. I am ugly and not. I can only imagine. I am a pain to live with, and I make a lot of noises when I sleep. Honestly, cruelty will never stop in my society. That's why I wanted to go to a decent institution. But of course not. I am bored of it.
Please make more videos of this design. This is amazing.
We plan on it :)
To all respect to Mark, Pavel is much better than him in every way possible. Also, nobody has Durov’s genius brother who writes the most unique codes.
This guy managed to come up with 17 billion, unfortunately. He'll never be trapped by me :P I only made the remark about Marilyn Manson because I attract untalented, pathetic artists who are mostly provocateurs here with my elementary school poetry and stories. At times, I go into modes where I have a perfect meter and it becomes profound, but I don't credit myself with that as a talent. It's my brain damage, not anything I've worked for.
The Very First! A true Aluxer!
You're awesome!!
Yeah, you can't really compare Pavel to Mark Z. A little matter of integrity. Some vs. none.
he is far hotter than Zuckerburg
I love his conviction and brilliant ideas! A man with a vision , conviction and guts. Love , love telegram and the Ton coin.
FYI Indonesia doesn't ban telegram
Everyone loves privacy. Even the politicians who try to violate it, still need it for themselves.
Simply amazing I would not of had his courage to openly defy the Russian establishment. Anywhere the powers that be are so because they crush people it's more affective to change from within.
I never heard of this guy. Thank Alux
Pavel didn't create vk and telegram(his brother created it ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Durov
I learned a lot in this video. Thank you so much Alux for always giving and adding value to our lives. And for free by just watching your videos. 😊 I appreciate it.
Красавчик!
1st like from INDIA
I wonder what time is india now ?
@@jaftandobongz7968 12 43 in night
Back at ya.
maybe, you could find some future billionaires here.
LOYALTY!!!
Pavel Durov's LOYAL to his people which Mark Zuckerberg insn't.
Watch up
Greetings from Lake Titicaca Bolivia
No, they should get it by themselves and I care about encryption. I believe tech is make for good and bad things but I don't believe bad things need to be let run especially in Telegram. If Telegram wanna keeps alive, it should deal with it or else somebody else that has the power will force you to deal with it.
I've had a ton of others, but those were mine. I'm sure it's every math teacher's dream that I would hear voices about my inability. Does any other person get something so lame?
Hello Alux.com.
I think that governments should not interfere between public chats that is unethical. Well thanku so much Alux.com for this wonderful video. My day is incomplete without watching your video 😇
Well said! We're really happy to hear that! 👍
i like the new alux videos, but what about the meditation course ? I've been waiting for it.
We're still working on it Damien! Just a little more :) We promise it's gonna be awesome ^^
Awesome !
Watch in 1.5x.you're welcome.
Im with him. Privacy is basic right. We have a lot in common
Let's see if Mr. Badass can get through the door. I want an existence besides basic survival. I'm tired of it. We've been doing this since 4. They can have this paradise without me. There is nothing for me to look forward to here, no classes (I used to take one at a time), can't write well, no stories to tell besides basic ones, no job promotion. It's endless dodging them without being able to even believe I have control or will win. Sometimes, I do win, but I don't delude myself into thinking that escaping once or twice will bring peace.
Nice to learn about VK. Pavel Durov is a great businessman because he created two successful corporations VK and Telegraph.
Telegram*
Your way of story telling is really appreciating! 💟
Thank you 💙
I'm using this video to make a point in government interference in social media for my college course.
If I can ever write again, I will write a comedy about my first real relationship and give my ex anything I earn, which won't be much, to my poor ex. I'm sorry :(.
Thank you Alux
invading privacy for national security is smart but wrong. Encryption is a step in evolution.
Ich WARTE AUF EINE KLÄRUNG PAVEL PAWEL WALERJEWITSCH DUROV DUROW
Durov is a hero
Would love to share this on Facebook but don’t think they be happy with it lol
Please don't compare him to Zuck.
Where is caption option?
Good content but the delivery is annoying. Like talking to 9-year olds.
Arguing with me is pointless for most things. The people who argue with me here mostly argue with themselves and project onto me. As I've said many times, I did not say that. My brain is not doing so well. If I have no thought and don't ask why, they will win? How is that going for them? Most arguments are when I'm trying to simply explain something, like why did they torture me when I could have helped my siblings? They knew what happened. And then after that, they want me to work and find a partner. um... you can't explain it to them. They never hear you. Other than that, it's trying to get me to remember to do a task or explain what you want me to do or say. The "pure" have aligned me with the garbage can. "Supermassive Black Hole." There's nothing I wouldn't do if anyone would try to fix my brain. Partial off :( That's all "they" do for millions. I got the freak factor.
Оооо Пашка на alux!
Security has become a valuable asset nowadays, Encryption is a must added gemstone that everybody should hold. Having a database of the people is ok; like a passport. The limits and laws should be set. But to what extent the government can get more profound with the information is a question mark?
VK is cooler than Facebook.
Are you know about telegram ?
@@TT-bi8ty Pavel didn't create vk and telegram(his brother created it ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Durov
List 10 things that is not banned in China
Who would prove Telegram is also secured/ not compromised?
This guy's issues don't matter that much, but I love him, if I could feel love. I would like to either go to a mental institution where they wouldn't abuse me outside of the US, fix my brain (my main desire), let me move in ;), or put me in a small apartment out of a NATO country. Unfortunately, I can't be totally independent. I wish I could have my brain fixed. Then I'd still have to leave all NATO countries. They will never stop hunting me here. I'm merely offended by what they call "evolutionary successes" after years of trying to earn something, to help my siblings who were gifted, or to have a simple life. I was in shape then, too.
damn why so slow?
The Alux Was Back To Form🏆🏆
How can i create a app.?
I'm also trying to create one
If you can code, then join a coding group. Find your buddies then you guys can create an app together. Then found your own startup around the app or opt for freelancing. In case you don't know how to program, you gotta learn that first. Good luck
It was awesome.... It got me pumped up for hustling ❤️❤️
INTERESTING STORY...THANK YOU SO MUCH...IS THERE ANY WAY TO CONTACT PAVEL DUROV OR HIS BROTHER...???I HAVE INTERESTING IDEA ...AND MAYBE THEY WILL LIKE IT TO TURN THE IDEA IN TO THE NEW COMPANY AND CHANGE THE WORLD FOR BETTER...>>> ONE FOR ALL STANDARD RATING SYSTEM
Wow! Sounds totally better than Facebook, really! Especially when Facebook gets on your case when it comes to political opinions that they do not like!
Pavel didn't create vk and telegram(his brother created it ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Durov
Great info on Pavel. I was hoping you guys could make a video on building a luxury brand? Like what high end brands all have in common, how they market themselves, ect?
I am the CEO of à high-middle end brand called COS. Sold it for 57 million to H&M
I already read about half of that book, "HOW TO BUILD A BILLION $ APP", but I had to "let if go". The book give you very interesting info and is VERY meticulous about all the process, from the start to the billions range, so, at one point, is too much for me (right now at least). Thanks for sharing !
Hot, brilliant, a rebel, hard-worker, independent-minded: this is the kinda guy who makes women wet. Seat me at a quiet table, please, with him, the Japanese creator of bitcoin, and Edward Snowden... I'd be the happiest person alive.....star-struck!
Pavel didn't create vk and telegram(his brother created it ) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikolai_Durov
I never knew this telegram app existed 😂 but I like the sound of it “ privacy “ and No 👎 no one should have access to destroy our freedom of speech nor ban our Human rights ! I’m moving now. Bye bye Mark Zucchini suckers 😂