As a first time drummer, I purchased a set of these along with the Sabian Quiet Tone cymbals. The foam that Daniel mentions that surrounds the Blackhole for the bass is what RTOM refers to as their V2. It provides a much better fit than V1. I purchased mine in 12/23 for my Catalina Club kit with an 18” bass. At the time there was no V2 for the 18”. RTOM confirmed using a 16” Blackhole with the foam (which I ordered separately) is the equivalent of a V2. I see that RTOM now sells the 18” V2. If you purchase the starter kit and have an 18” bass and no need for the 16” head (for a tom) included with the kit you could attach the supplied foam to the 16” to use in your 18” bass. In my case the Gretsch supplied riser for the bass interfered with the installation of the Blackhole. I tried the Evan’s riser and for me it did not raise the bass high enough to get the beater to hit in the center. Since I am new to drumming I was not familiar with all the accessories and bass pedals so it took me some time to come up with an acceptable solution. I had read so much about how adjusting the beater height threw off the feel / leverage of the pedal that I wanted to avoid that. First, if Gretsch would modify their riser (it is very similar to the Gibraltar riser) so the tension rods are secured to the bass from the underside of the hoop versus from the inner side of the hoop that would be the best solution. You can go to compactdrums.com to see the different risers that are available. Some homemade, so very expensive and some seemingly no longer available. I built my own from wood. It looks similar to one end (only the wooden piece) of the Danmar riser along with some additional support I provided. I bought the Tama HP 50 pedal. Though basic, it provided the best adjustments of any pedal I could find. Most importantly the height is easily adjusted and does not seem to throw off the feel of the pedal as the beater height is adjusted. The single chain is at a nice angle and minimizes the risk of hitting the hoop. Another thing to consider, with the Blackhole installed, the surface of it is basically flush with the outer edge of the hoop. This means when it is removed the beater will have to travel farther to hit the acoustic head. Rather than have to adjust the pedal when playing acoustic I have two spacers for the riser I made. One to be used with the Blackhole and the other when it is removed. The spacer changes the position of the pedal relative to the riser and ultimately the bass drum head. Like I said I am new to drumming with absolutely no knowledge so it took me some time to work through the solution. I hope this info helps someone.
Hi I was wondering how the triggers respond to ghost notes and various dynamics, can other makers dual triggers be used with the Rtom black hole mesh heads?
Quick question l, do you NEED to use a drum module in order for the triggers to work, or could you just plug it directly I to your computer and use something like EZ drummer?
What kind of drumsticks do you use? Because I’m hearing that Promark is better. Vic Firth is better. In you honest opinion which is the best drumstick for you?
So first of all, I really do think it's personal preference, but here is my take after using all 3 brands a lot. 1. Vic Firth - great balance and feel, but breaks pretty easy 2. Vater - durable, but sometimes sticks aren't balanced perfectly 3. Promark - balance and durability are both pretty good, and you can get packs of 8 I think all balanced together, so Promark is my favorite right now.
Have y'all ever seen these before? So cool, right?! Check them out here,
Mesh heads - sweetwater.sjv.io/JzAqeE
triggers - sweetwater.sjv.io/XYR10g
As a first time drummer, I purchased a set of these along with the Sabian Quiet Tone cymbals. The foam that Daniel mentions that surrounds the Blackhole for the bass is what RTOM refers to as their V2. It provides a much better fit than V1. I purchased mine in 12/23 for my Catalina Club kit with an 18” bass. At the time there was no V2 for the 18”. RTOM confirmed using a 16” Blackhole with the foam (which I ordered separately) is the equivalent of a V2. I see that RTOM now sells the 18” V2. If you purchase the starter kit and have an 18” bass and no need for the 16” head (for a tom) included with the kit you could attach the supplied foam to the 16” to use in your 18” bass. In my case the Gretsch supplied riser for the bass interfered with the installation of the Blackhole. I tried the Evan’s riser and for me it did not raise the bass high enough to get the beater to hit in the center. Since I am new to drumming I was not familiar with all the accessories and bass pedals so it took me some time to come up with an acceptable solution. I had read so much about how adjusting the beater height threw off the feel / leverage of the pedal that I wanted to avoid that. First, if Gretsch would modify their riser (it is very similar to the Gibraltar riser) so the tension rods are secured to the bass from the underside of the hoop versus from the inner side of the hoop that would be the best solution. You can go to compactdrums.com to see the different risers that are available. Some homemade, so very expensive and some seemingly no longer available. I built my own from wood. It looks similar to one end (only the wooden piece) of the Danmar riser along with some additional support I provided. I bought the Tama HP 50 pedal. Though basic, it provided the best adjustments of any pedal I could find. Most importantly the height is easily adjusted and does not seem to throw off the feel of the pedal as the beater height is adjusted. The single chain is at a nice angle and minimizes the risk of hitting the hoop. Another thing to consider, with the Blackhole installed, the surface of it is basically flush with the outer edge of the hoop. This means when it is removed the beater will have to travel farther to hit the acoustic head. Rather than have to adjust the pedal when playing acoustic I have two spacers for the riser I made. One to be used with the Blackhole and the other when it is removed. The spacer changes the position of the pedal relative to the riser and ultimately the bass drum head. Like I said I am new to drumming with absolutely no knowledge so it took me some time to work through the solution. I hope this info helps someone.
that's so cool, sounds AMAZING!! and I love the video.
Thanks for watching!
Hi Kye lol 😂
@@aubreysossoman1714 hiii
Hi I was wondering how the triggers respond to ghost notes and various dynamics, can other makers dual triggers be used with the Rtom black hole mesh heads?
Hi I like the look of these I'm thinking about getting them for my drum kit at church
Quick question l, do you NEED to use a drum module in order for the triggers to work, or could you just plug it directly I to your computer and use something like EZ drummer?
Trigger goes to module, module goes to computer and then you’ll run your preferred DAW and VST. The cheapest route would be a Roland TM2 module
Dude!! This is sick! 🔥🔥 finally a cool solution 🙌🙏👏
Thanks for watching!
That is super cool!!!
I know, I'm really digging them!
what's a more affordable drum module you would recommend?
Amazing! 💕💕
Sounds cool!
Wow that's really cool!
I know, right! lol
This is so cool!!
What kind of drumsticks do you use? Because I’m hearing that Promark is better. Vic Firth is better. In you honest opinion which is the best drumstick for you?
So first of all, I really do think it's personal preference, but here is my take after using all 3 brands a lot.
1. Vic Firth - great balance and feel, but breaks pretty easy
2. Vater - durable, but sometimes sticks aren't balanced perfectly
3. Promark - balance and durability are both pretty good, and you can get packs of 8 I think all balanced together, so Promark is my favorite right now.
@@DanielBernard ok. Thank you very much.
Now that’s petty cool!!
I know, right!
It’s not that expensive I thought it would be about 6 to 800 dollars
Dumb question.... can you use those triggers for the mesh heads on the actual drum heads ?
Not these specific ones, but I think they do make some that can replace drum heads
Where do you get your drum tracks from ?
a lot of them from www.multitracks.com
Thanks
But not with the cymbals 😅