incredibly well played drongo almost as impressive as esti pesti beating haitch xD that seems like a really good build vs dutch. I feel like dutch need a small nerf, unless you rush the dutch they are very hard to beat and out eco, even if you control hunts their units are mostly gold, villagers are gold and they just trade at the market for the food they need, they also have probably the best dragoon unit and best skirm with all their upgrade cards.
@@Youngmuniii I play dutch and I feel they need a nerf, its so hard to stop dutch getting its 5 banks up, if you rush they just send CM and theres not much you can do, banks keep gathering coin and have 4000hp each, if theres no food they just trade at market with so much coin. Even civs like japan going full shrine boom only out eco dutch after 20 mins when most games are over. Whilst inca, japan and sweden are all good civs, they can be stopped by just burning down shrines and torps. in case of inca only their native rush was op and thats been nerfed, nothing else op about inca. With dutch its so hard to destroy 4000 hp banks with a colonial militia TC shooting at your units, they age up fast as well so they start building banks very quickly, what dutch need is a nerf to their age up time, maybe reduce gold/food crates so it delays the banks getting built and its actually possible to rush them.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 you’re completely wrong. dutch does not outboom japan. after reading that and your other nonsense like saying dutch need a nerf and japan and inca are fine It’s clear you’re either full of it or you’re a lance corporal 😂😂 good luck out there
@@Youngmuniii Don't get so mad just because you disagree, we are all allowed to have different opinions, my opinion is that dutch out eco japan until mid fortress. As japan your shrines are constantly getting burned down its rare you just sit at 200 shrine pop, dutch just sit with 5 banks untouched. Japan recently got nerfed, I think they are ok right now. Not sure what the issue is with inca? I guess you hate all the civs with houses that gather resources.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 i’m not upset in the slightest, buddy. sorry if poking fun at you sounds like i’m mad. it’s honestly funny that someone can really have the opinion that dutch outboom japan it sounds like you’re trolling that’s how far off the bar you are about that. it’s not an opinion though you’re literally just wrong. I know it sounds harsh but it’s just the way the game is. I wish a dutch stood up to japan. Dutch also lose to japan so go ahead and explain that with your humorous insight into the game 😆 would be interested to hear
Below 1500 elo civ doesn't even really matter because if you lose the game its probably way more to do with macro/micro mistakes or just taking a bad trade, obviously some civs are still just better like dutch vs usa, but at lower elo civ choice is rarely the reason why you lost.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 I understand this. But for example France is one of the best civs at beginner levels because it’s easier to play with. And not that many things can go wrong with them. Or Otto and Spain are dominating at lower levels because they have their FF for all situations. And it is not easy to counter correct FF at low levels
Drongo, you should be a standard bearer to our community. I"d like to see some effective building layouts. Why do you always place that house behind the TC?
Aussie i have question can you beat extreme Ai with the beginers deck? Can´t you talk a little about the AI difficulty. If you already did can you pls direct me to it.
@@Toonrick12 Culvs are slow and don’t offer a very good offense so they don’t defend themselves well where as Gatling can. I’d like to see you post a game against a 1200 player trying to counter Gatlings since you say it’s so easy.
It's no way unbalanced, the minutemen have like a 2 minute cooldown so it's hard to mass them, he only had a decent amount because he used 2 cards, colpeper minutemen and marines card. in fortress age thats like a 2k investment sending 2 cards. the strat was effective because dutch just sat back and wasn't prepared, 20 wood in wall segments and 2 falcs completely shuts down that build as marines are weak to artillery and it's hard to remass them due to the long cooldown. dutch need a nerf if anything, out eco'd 3 tc usa despite having his whole base destroyed.
Have you tried the strat? It's v hard to pull off quickly, sacrifices a lot of early eco and cards, and is quite predictable if you scout/look at deck. Let people adapt to it first for a bit before calling for a nerf. USA is still overall considered weaker than other civs
@@krispyk277 didn’t you watch the video? the build order isn’t the issue. although it was pulled of very easily in this match up and the build is far from hard to do. far from. the economy doesn’t matter when your units don’t die and have ridiculous stats. the unit needs nerfed. unlimited pops of minute men on a short cool down that have the siege of siege units? I’ve played against it to know it’s not balanced, the unit resists melee but can stand and fight skirm or kite skirm, they are in fact not afraid of cannons as the above commenter mentioned, I don’t think he’s actually ever played against them because if he had he’d know that they aren’t even afraid of a frigate and if you watched the video m you can see a glimpse for yourself too.. Idk where there’s room to defend the marine? having a cool down and sending a card doesn’t justify their stats. A minute man sieging a town center at 10 minutes? They’re meant for defense not offense. Anyone defending the current state of the marine are only defending it because they’re using it to get wins. And they were probably against the unlimited 2 gattling nerf when it happened too. The guy above disagreed with the gattling nerf, enough said and It’s that simple. If they don’t nerf them in the future patches all you’ll be seeing is players using usa marine build for free wins. Dutch need a nerf? lol Dutch need a buff buddy. But mark this youtube comment. A nerf is coming because people will this build like a new toy.
@@krispyk277 I do not do these sort of lame cheese builds to get wins it’s beneath me I have this thing called pride where it matters to me how I win. I don’t learn the builds that one day get nerfed because they’re clearly too strong if that makes sense.
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What the title should have been "United States Marines are LITERALLY broken"! GGWP good to see a win for the ol' Red, White, and Blue.
Drongo: Give me the KAISER!
Game: Alright.
The US suits your play style Drongo. You can do something in the tournament with them.
19:01 LMAO DE pathing moment. When we getting a drongo rage compilation?!
IF you destroyed that market it would have been over sooner
Destroying the market removes the upgrades? Until you rebuild
@@davidlynch1627 no but then he cant buy wood to rebuild houses
Loved the duck quacking!!!
1:04 that ASMR_Drongo
Glad I'm not the only one who rages at my villagers for doing dumb stuff.
2:48 for villager rage.
KaiserKlein makes me think about $5 hot n ready pizza! pizza! (I am writing this just before dinner. why do you ask?)
at 19:00 they just straight up went "nah"
incredibly well played drongo almost as impressive as esti pesti beating haitch xD
that seems like a really good build vs dutch. I feel like dutch need a small nerf, unless you rush the dutch they are very hard to beat and out eco, even if you control hunts their units are mostly gold, villagers are gold and they just trade at the market for the food they need, they also have probably the best dragoon unit and best skirm with all their upgrade cards.
you must not play Dutch if you think they need a nerf. so your opinion must be the same for inca, japan, and sweden then.
@@Youngmuniii I play dutch and I feel they need a nerf, its so hard to stop dutch getting its 5 banks up, if you rush they just send CM and theres not much you can do, banks keep gathering coin and have 4000hp each, if theres no food they just trade at market with so much coin.
Even civs like japan going full shrine boom only out eco dutch after 20 mins when most games are over.
Whilst inca, japan and sweden are all good civs, they can be stopped by just burning down shrines and torps. in case of inca only their native rush was op and thats been nerfed, nothing else op about inca. With dutch its so hard to destroy 4000 hp banks with a colonial militia TC shooting at your units, they age up fast as well so they start building banks very quickly, what dutch need is a nerf to their age up time, maybe reduce gold/food crates so it delays the banks getting built and its actually possible to rush them.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 you’re completely wrong. dutch does not outboom japan. after reading that and your other nonsense like saying dutch need a nerf and japan and inca are fine It’s clear you’re either full of it or you’re a lance corporal 😂😂 good luck out there
@@Youngmuniii Don't get so mad just because you disagree, we are all allowed to have different opinions, my opinion is that dutch out eco japan until mid fortress. As japan your shrines are constantly getting burned down its rare you just sit at 200 shrine pop, dutch just sit with 5 banks untouched.
Japan recently got nerfed, I think they are ok right now.
Not sure what the issue is with inca? I guess you hate all the civs with houses that gather resources.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 i’m not upset in the slightest, buddy. sorry if poking fun at you sounds like i’m mad. it’s honestly funny that someone can really have the opinion that dutch outboom japan it sounds like you’re trolling that’s how far off the bar you are about that. it’s not an opinion though you’re literally just wrong. I know it sounds harsh but it’s just the way the game is. I wish a dutch stood up to japan. Dutch also lose to japan so go ahead and explain that with your humorous insight into the game 😆 would be interested to hear
Nice one.
The arsenal and counter infantry rifling against Dutch seemed like an odd choice but anyway the game was over at that point.
It is a good thing that Drongo exposes all the broken units on this channel. Siege infantry which can also be amassed at 9 minutes? BIG Nerf incoming.
Hey, Drongo. Can u make a tier list of civs for not pro players? For like 1200-1600 ELO
Below 1500 elo civ doesn't even really matter because if you lose the game its probably way more to do with macro/micro mistakes or just taking a bad trade, obviously some civs are still just better like dutch vs usa, but at lower elo civ choice is rarely the reason why you lost.
@@ashwrightfinance8610 I understand this. But for example France is one of the best civs at beginner levels because it’s easier to play with. And not that many things can go wrong with them.
Or Otto and Spain are dominating at lower levels because they have their FF for all situations. And it is not easy to counter correct FF at low levels
@@ashwrightfinance8610 Some civs are easier to play, and that matters for lower elo
Maybe you can look up the counters of the "easiest" civs and have a rough idea of the Meta.
That was a different opening! I like it well played...sneaky boy😂😂😂
Hell yes the upset of the ages! Although I never doubted for a second.
flag in the base by 11min is the biggest 'Murica moment in AoE history
Even more than saying "Where's that axe?"
That was gross. What the fuck did I just witness.
jesus christ the micro this guy has in ao3de is insane.
The content i am here for!!!
What are those quacks? I don't want quacks! I want sweet sweet Australian swearing
What a game, amazing from both sides! :D
Drongo, you should be a standard bearer to our community. I"d like to see some effective building layouts. Why do you always place that house behind the TC?
good grief that siege
You remind me of the VIPER AOE2
Drongo too Strongo
Aussie rages like that lunatic kid getting his WoW sub taken by his mom. Lmfao. Yeesh.
Have you got the Americans figured out, Drongo?
how did you age up from colonial to fortress so damn fast took less than a minute, the bar even skipped ahead.
Statehood takes time off of aging, even when you're in progress.
All your videos get placed into a mix playlist by RUclips as if they're music 😂
Which mod / settings lets your idle villager symbol be red? I can't seem to find it...
l believe it's called drongo ui mod or something. It's pretty high up in the mods list
Look up Aiz or aizamk UI mod in the mod search
@@pepijnvandeweg1168 Thanks a lot!
I dont get it. How can he have such high siege attack? He litteraly destroyed a TC in like less than 10 seconds
That siege was broken!!
the unit isn’t balanced.
The Marines card gives them 1000% seige damage. That's not a typo. They go from 5 siege to 50 siege.
How would you have reacted to a rush at around 6 min?
I would've cried
Tf those duck sounds xd
Hate the duck quacking 👁️👄👁️
Plz upload in 4k i got a big ass monitor
How many state challenges do you have to complete before you get access to the USA? (Only AIs can select it for me, I the human player, cannot.)
All 50.
@@Toonrick12 Darn it. Few more days for me then...
Love your voice dude🔥
Aussie i have question can you beat extreme Ai with the beginers deck?
Can´t you talk a little about the AI difficulty. If you already did can you pls direct me to it.
Why beginners deck? Create your own deck and treat the AI as a human multiplayer opponent. Believe me, you'll get a lot out of it.
Well played, I’ll try this build next time
The Militia God!!
Nice to see the US Marine Corps doing what it does best: winning battles.
Good thing the Vietnamese aren't in the game.
very legit bro gained a lot of respect for you as a player.
Why did you get CIR? it doesnt increase Volunteers attack and multi against heavy infantry isnt good against dutch
I’d be so mad if someone melted my TC that fast 9 minutes in
I miss the aoe3 stuff. :(
THE CENSORING HAS BEGUN NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Semper Fidelis
I don’t know how u do it dude.
Nice
USA!!!
2 culvs for that? That’s a bit unnecessary…really? because the OP Gatling guns aren’t right.
OP? They're quite weak, being able to be one shotted from a upgraded culv.
@@Toonrick12 Culvs are slow and don’t offer a very good offense so they don’t defend themselves well where as Gatling can. I’d like to see you post a game against a 1200 player trying to counter Gatlings since you say it’s so easy.
Why don't you buy trading posts and mercenaries? The tradiing post pays for itself like 20 times in a 20 minutes game.
nasty strat
Nerf is coming no doubt.
OMG 💓
when do you think they’ll nerf marines? you’re kidding yourself if you call the stats on the marine unit balanced.
It's no way unbalanced, the minutemen have like a 2 minute cooldown so it's hard to mass them, he only had a decent amount because he used 2 cards, colpeper minutemen and marines card. in fortress age thats like a 2k investment sending 2 cards.
the strat was effective because dutch just sat back and wasn't prepared, 20 wood in wall segments and 2 falcs completely shuts down that build as marines are weak to artillery and it's hard to remass them due to the long cooldown.
dutch need a nerf if anything, out eco'd 3 tc usa despite having his whole base destroyed.
Have you tried the strat? It's v hard to pull off quickly, sacrifices a lot of early eco and cards, and is quite predictable if you scout/look at deck. Let people adapt to it first for a bit before calling for a nerf. USA is still overall considered weaker than other civs
@@krispyk277 didn’t you watch the video? the build order isn’t the issue. although it was pulled of very easily in this match up and the build is far from hard to do. far from. the economy doesn’t matter when your units don’t die and have ridiculous stats. the unit needs nerfed. unlimited pops of minute men on a short cool down that have the siege of siege units? I’ve played against it to know it’s not balanced, the unit resists melee but can stand and fight skirm or kite skirm, they are in fact not afraid of cannons as the above commenter mentioned, I don’t think he’s actually ever played against them because if he had he’d know that they aren’t even afraid of a frigate and if you watched the video m you can see a glimpse for yourself too.. Idk where there’s room to defend the marine? having a cool down and sending a card doesn’t justify their stats. A minute man sieging a town center at 10 minutes? They’re meant for defense not offense. Anyone defending the current state of the marine are only defending it because they’re using it to get wins. And they were probably against the unlimited 2 gattling nerf when it happened too. The guy above disagreed with the gattling nerf, enough said and It’s that simple. If they don’t nerf them in the future patches all you’ll be seeing is players using usa marine build for free wins. Dutch need a nerf? lol Dutch need a buff buddy. But mark this youtube comment. A nerf is coming because people will this build like a new toy.
@@Youngmuniii have you tried doing it on the ladder?
@@krispyk277 I do not do these sort of lame cheese builds to get wins it’s beneath me I have this thing called pride where it matters to me how I win. I don’t learn the builds that one day get nerfed because they’re clearly too strong if that makes sense.