Looking fantastic 👍🏻 And the smile on your face sat in your folded coats I was thinking your the children lol 😆 It’ll be absolutely perfect day at the dinette with an old gun and guitar in hand looking at the warm fire with those doors open to the out side 👍🏻
You do make our day a little brighter James. We are enthralled by your skill and your enthusiasm. We look forward to your Vlogs. Keep them coming. When you eventually sail near to Hemel Hempstead, we’ll keep an eye out for you.
HAPPY DAYS........Looking good James. It's improving every day. Get the stove chimney done & lets see you light the fire for the first time. Stay safe my friend.
I have stern gland coupler envy even though I don't and probably will never own a narrowboat :) I chose my campervan on the basis of the "dinette" arrangement and seat height, so getting a comfortable seating setup is most important for the long term enjoyment of your boat.
Another piece of plywood under the cushions (that you can slide out, and takes up no room for storage), and you can turn the sofa into another bed for the kids or adult visitors, too! That would be handy when the kids get older and bigger! You'd just have to make some type of support for the edges along the sofa, and a post to support the outside. It's a trick I've seen on many RV's here in Canada.
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt Cool! you might even be able to use the table-top rather than another piece of plywood. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
James I saw the realisation on your face of your achievements so far when you sat (precariously) on that sheet of board how far you've come along, well done so far fella I'm really impressed with what your doing in such a short time frame and to cap it all in a pandemic!. You sir have my upmost praise 👍
More good progress James. Wouldnt worry too much about heights of the seats, it'll be fairly easy to change that later on (well upwards, at least!). Thats a stunnning bit of shiny metal for the stern though eh? look forward to seeing that go in.
Hi James , yep qualified gas man certificate issued for boat safety. Water pipe work use a 25 / 50 meter Roll of poly not separate lengths Vibration could allow joints to fail hence cutting down on joints Always make access a Priority for maintenance purposes.
Looks good. Narrowboats raise the dinettes up on a platform to have a good view out the hatch, also to get more storage below. Yours looks a bit low, especially for your kids, but that's your choice. You may prefer the headroom, but as a short person, I'd opt for the higher seating.
Hi James, another one with good progress, Proper Job. Only one thought, not knowing yet about your design for compartments I'me guessing you will have a couple of supports along the front of your seating, especially under the 90 degree corner where the two fronts meet. Take care and stay safe. (PJ)
When you get to the table, there are a couple of things to consider. The floor flange can come in 2 types, but the "recessed" type will keep you from tripping over the flange when the table is not installed. Will require recessing the floor flange, but will save tripping over it. If you use 2 posts, you can install the tabletop flanges in a way to allow the table top to slide a bit. I can't see a way to attach a design document, but I'll see if I can find a way.
Wow, it really is coming along nicely James. It''s starting to look more like a home. The bench is at a perfect level. It comes up to the bend of your knees. Well done
I built my own sofa bed very simply using plywood boards and foot tall legs. I can slide boxes etc underneath as required. It converts to a narrow double and my aged parents are so far the only people I know to have used it as such. However I have used it as a single bed often when it is warm in the saloon and cold in the bedroom. My cushions were designed to work as infills so are not very tall but the space above the cushions and below the gunnels is stuffed with the rolled up bedding which brings the cushioning effect further out and saves you bumping your head. It doesn't look like bedding as it is rolled in a blanket. I will send you a picture.
You can see your green chair and the bum part of the chair matched up height wise to your dinette so think you have it worked out pretty good! Give the backrest angle a good thinking about, too shallow an angle and you'll feel like you're back at school and too much of an angle will reduce seating depth 👍
You have got a bit of tolerance on the height , as that depends on the foam now , and how dense it is etc , but with the wall going right up to the bow it looks longer . Looking forward to the gland going it , and coupling , may be worth covering the area .
It’s your boat so make it fit you regardless of what the standards are. I made a Windsor chair on a course a few years ago people tell me it’s not the right height but it’s very comfortable to me. That’s all that matters.
That looks really good James and looking from our side looking in it looks just the right height.I have been decorating today so we can put our house on the market in the next couple of weeks.
Have you thought about turning the area underneath into storage ? Maybe compartments. Also whilst the seating does feel low it also give the opportunity for storage above you without the risk of smacking your head. ie. Shelves or half height cupboards. I've purposefully build the boat with lower furniture for that reason, I also build slim wardrobes by using 2 bulkheads with a foot gap between them. I mention storage a lot as this is the stage to start being clever and implementing now rather than an after thought.
A friend who used to make furniture said 45cm is the normal height for a seat, but the narroboat I share has a dinette seat that is too high, and shorter people have their legs dangling, Part of the problem is a badly designed conversion to an optional bed, but even without this, it would be too high for some.
All looking good James. Are you going to put a short length of 3 x 2 under the corner bit of the L-shape as a reinforcement? Just a thought. Bollock me if you are, but just haven’t got around to it yet. 😉
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt gut feel, I’d also put a short piece across the middle of the long bench. Probably not strictly necessary, if you’re going to be using a good thickness of ply, but I’d want it.
Hi, L shaped sittee looks great. All that storage space. I don't know how much room your table or vaccume packed bag items will take in the space behind the back support under the gunnels. If you have any space left you could have a secret storage space for items you want to hide. Could access this by having the seat back fold forward like the backs of the rear seats in some cars do. Could have shelves for books, CDs, hidden speakers for a radio, toys, drone etc. Also how about 240 volt sockets built into lower ie below knee part of the seat to plug laptops, phone charger, electronic games into. Only a thought, as storage space on a boat is a premium. Cheers.
Ooooh I like the sound of that. Now you’ve given me something to think about tonight. That would work nicely - a fold down back - excellent - good man !!
Hope the fitting of the Stern gland goes to plan and are you able to run the engine or do you need the canal to provide the cooling. looking forward to the ceiling being installed that's a difficult task to complete.
Great progress James, I'm loving it 👏. Whilst I understand the desire to get the boat on the water, if the costs are similar would it not be better working where you are whilst getting more jobs done (ie better access, blacking, etc) and delaying the launch a couple of weeks?
It looks as if the dinette frame against the bulkhead goes right to the end. When you install the facing plywood it will be extending into your hallway. Or are you putting a frame on the bulkhead? I am just thinking that it would be easier to change the length now than later. All together, nice job!
Another great video James, love the progress and bet you can’t wait to have the flu fitted and the fire lit👌Should there not be a platform beneath the dinette to give the correct height and foot position when sitting at the dinette... Not to mention the “hidden storage compartments” that would be gained?
(I) unless you're going to use your dinette for sleeping, why not have a domestic table? (ii) if you have three separate seats on the long axis could you not have single cushions and hinged seats for access to the storage. You'd need a further longitudinal timber at the base of the back cushion which itself could hinge forward to give simple access to the rear void. (iii) is MDF man enough to take adult bums rather than marine ply? Loving your daily dose of pleasure by which we live vicariously through your endeavors.
The dinette will be used as a bed at times so no domestic table. I’d rather 2 bigger cushions as it’ll be used as a bed. I’m not sure about MDF either - it seems wrong to bring MDF anywhere near a boat - even though I’m really hoping it’ll be pretty dry and moisture free. Glad you’re liking the videos and my journey with this one !! 👍🏼
Nope not so far. Got timber ordered today and it’s being delivered after lunch. Solar etc is all on track. Crane operators are working as they should and the wharf is open for business. So thank goodness, we’re all being careful but still managing to work
You’ll have to wait a little longer until you find out the name. I’ve said it before on a previous video of sorts - very hard to spot though !! Thanks for your kind words
When you get to the table make it free standing with legs that can fold up if you use them stupid fixed pipes they will drive you mad trying to wiggle around the table to sit down or even when walking about you can't push it out of the way if free standing you can move it to get into you seating position then pull it in place when moving around the boat you can push it to one side to make more room and in the better weather you can take it out on your back deck for alfresco dining or on to the tow path for a barbie
I don't know how you can do it but it would be better if you could give us a more detailed idea of what you are going to do tomorrow, rather than just show us what you've done today, then people can offer suggestions before you do it. I think I would have considered the long and the short benches the other way round, i.e. I would have made the short bench deeper with a more reclined back and consider the 'return' as a sort of 'armchair ' position, i.e. slightly reclined with feet on the floor, and you could also sit, similarly reclined, with your legs up on the long bench. The long bench would mainly be used for dining when there are several people on board and would be more upright. This would encroach less on the width of the boat particularly when you gave a table there.
I think I originally misunderstood what you intended and I don't think I was clear in my comment either. I think it turns out we agree that there should be at least two 'lounging' (i.e. reclined) seat positions facing lengthways.The more reclined you try to make the seat positions facing widthways, the more restricted it will be in the saloon. I heard an American girl on another vlog refer to her boat as a longboat rather than a narrowboat and I thought that's a bit like 'glass half full or half empty'. Better to think of the boat as long rather than narrow and the saloon is probably where you are most aware of the width.
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Nice to see the post man came to deliver your wood 🤣🤣
Looking fantastic 👍🏻 And the smile on your face sat in your folded coats I was thinking your the children lol 😆 It’ll be absolutely perfect day at the dinette with an old gun and guitar in hand looking at the warm fire with those doors open to the out side 👍🏻
You do make our day a little brighter James. We are enthralled by your skill and your enthusiasm. We look forward to your Vlogs. Keep them coming. When you eventually sail near to Hemel Hempstead, we’ll keep an eye out for you.
Sail near....I’ll be spending most summers in Berko
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt My missus says that’s handy, you can do our boat for us while your there! lol.
@@onyerboat8858 happy to 👍🏼
The thought of mooring up by the winkwell, having a pint and looking at the boat.....that’ll be a good day 👍🏼
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt mate. You’re a mind reader. We’re planning to moor at the Winkwell Marina!! Pint and a pose. Perfect.
HAPPY DAYS........Looking good James. It's improving every day. Get the stove chimney done & lets see you light the fire for the first time. Stay safe my friend.
Don’t forget to round off any corners before it happens James , and it’s looking good
I have stern gland coupler envy even though I don't and probably will never own a narrowboat :)
I chose my campervan on the basis of the "dinette" arrangement and seat height, so getting a comfortable seating setup is most important for the long term enjoyment of your boat.
You could put some partitions in the long part of the sofa and fit drawers. Easier to access. Just fit a top access locker in the corner.
Another piece of plywood under the cushions (that you can slide out, and takes up no room for storage), and you can turn the sofa into another bed for the kids or adult visitors, too! That would be handy when the kids get older and bigger! You'd just have to make some type of support for the edges along the sofa, and a post to support the outside. It's a trick I've seen on many RV's here in Canada.
Yep that’s the plan - just designing it now 👍🏼
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt
Cool! you might even be able to use the table-top rather than another piece of plywood. Can't wait to see what you come up with!
James I saw the realisation on your face of your achievements so far when you sat (precariously) on that sheet of board how far you've come along, well done so far fella I'm really impressed with what your doing in such a short time frame and to cap it all in a pandemic!. You sir have my upmost praise 👍
Looking good, stay safe...
we need something good to watch. now that we're locked down again :)
More good progress James. Wouldnt worry too much about heights of the seats, it'll be fairly easy to change that later on (well upwards, at least!). Thats a stunnning bit of shiny metal for the stern though eh? look forward to seeing that go in.
Hi James , yep qualified gas man certificate issued for boat safety.
Water pipe work use a 25 / 50 meter Roll of poly not separate lengths
Vibration could allow joints to fail hence cutting down on joints
Always make access a Priority for maintenance purposes.
can you not make the seat "slide" in and out. so the back is up for dinette, and angled for soffa ??
Looks good. Narrowboats raise the dinettes up on a platform to have a good view out the hatch, also to get more storage below. Yours looks a bit low, especially for your kids, but that's your choice. You may prefer the headroom, but as a short person, I'd opt for the higher seating.
Hi James, another one with good progress, Proper Job. Only one thought, not knowing yet about your design for compartments I'me guessing you will have a couple of supports along the front of your seating, especially under the 90 degree corner where the two fronts meet. Take care and stay safe. (PJ)
Great to hear and see the progress you are making, your face says it all. Take care.
We cut the seat base to make storage under the seat area. You'd need more support, but you gain more storage!
You seem over 6' easy everything is low to us lol (6'6"), really admire your wood skills boats starting to look sweet
You can only question your work for so long. It’s fine. Just keep moving along. Your doing great
That’s what I thought - sod it - carry on !
Exciting when the furniture starts to come along ⚒😀
When you get to the table, there are a couple of things to consider. The floor flange can come in 2 types, but the "recessed" type will keep you from tripping over the flange when the table is not installed. Will require recessing the floor flange, but will save tripping over it. If you use 2 posts, you can install the tabletop flanges in a way to allow the table top to slide a bit. I can't see a way to attach a design document, but I'll see if I can find a way.
Yeah I think I know what you mean.
Try emailing a pic to jamesposner966@gmail.com
Thanks
Wow, it really is coming along nicely James. It''s starting to look more like a home. The bench is at a perfect level. It comes up to the bend of your knees. Well done
I built my own sofa bed very simply using plywood boards and foot tall legs. I can slide boxes etc underneath as required. It converts to a narrow double and my aged parents are so far the only people I know to have used it as such. However I have used it as a single bed often when it is warm in the saloon and cold in the bedroom. My cushions were designed to work as infills so are not very tall but the space above the cushions and below the gunnels is stuffed with the rolled up bedding which brings the cushioning effect further out and saves you bumping your head. It doesn't look like bedding as it is rolled in a blanket. I will send you a picture.
Wow that sounds perfect! Please send a pic if you can
Jamesposner966@gmail.com
Thanks
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt done look in spam folder just in case?
If dinette turns out it is low, it'll be easier to plant more timber on top of the frames to make them higher rather than trying cutting them down .
You can see your green chair and the bum part of the chair matched up height wise to your dinette so think you have it worked out pretty good! Give the backrest angle a good thinking about, too shallow an angle and you'll feel like you're back at school and too much of an angle will reduce seating depth 👍
I love watching your videos, the work you’ve done on the boat is fantastic. Keep up the good work, and I hope your channel grows you deserve it.
Looking good James, you’ll have great views out the hatch 😁
You have got a bit of tolerance on the height , as that depends on the foam now , and how dense it is etc , but with the wall going right up to the bow it looks longer . Looking forward to the gland going it , and coupling , may be worth covering the area .
It’s your boat so make it fit you regardless of what the standards are. I made a Windsor chair on a course a few years ago people tell me it’s not the right height but it’s very comfortable to me. That’s all that matters.
Defiantly right to use a gas LPG marine engineer
It’s looking good James love the engineering in the coupler too
My sofa is from IKEA and it's lower than yours but you are taller. This is a James size build. Great stuff.
Hey Will - good to hear from ya. It’s certainly a James quality build 🤣🤣🤣
That looks really good James and looking from our side looking in it looks just the right height.I have been decorating today so we can put our house on the market in the next couple of weeks.
Our cushions fit snug under the gunwhales with a bit protruding out,so don’t come out to far
Have you thought about turning the area underneath into storage ? Maybe compartments.
Also whilst the seating does feel low it also give the opportunity for storage above you without the risk of smacking your head.
ie. Shelves or half height cupboards.
I've purposefully build the boat with lower furniture for that reason, I also build slim wardrobes by using 2 bulkheads with a foot gap between them.
I mention storage a lot as this is the stage to start being clever and implementing now rather than an after thought.
Also remember to make sure to have vent holes on solid surfaces to help prevent condensation.
Yay. It’s arrived. 😂👍
You can always add a thicker base cushion if you decide you want a few extra inches of height on the seat.
A friend who used to make furniture said 45cm is the normal height for a seat, but the narroboat I share has a dinette seat that is too high, and shorter people have their legs dangling, Part of the problem is a badly designed conversion to an optional bed, but even without this, it would be too high for some.
Yes I’ve seen dinettes good high - it’s a compromise I guess but I feel this ones right
All looking good James. Are you going to put a short length of 3 x 2 under the corner bit of the L-shape as a reinforcement? Just a thought. Bollock me if you are, but just haven’t got around to it yet. 😉
Consider yourself bollocksed !! It’s in now and feels a “smidge” more stable !!
@@TheNarrowboatThatJamesBuilt gut feel, I’d also put a short piece across the middle of the long bench. Probably not strictly necessary, if you’re going to be using a good thickness of ply, but I’d want it.
@ 10:26 and on... The scientific research and calculations shown are second to none, James! ;)
I’m pretty sure that’s how Ikea do it before they roll out 35 million benches
‘50 mill under the bum’ 😂😂😂
Hi, L shaped sittee looks great. All that storage space. I don't know how much room your table or vaccume packed bag items will take in the space behind the back support under the gunnels. If you have any space left you could have a secret storage space for items you want to hide. Could access this by having the seat back fold forward like the backs of the rear seats in some cars do. Could have shelves for books, CDs, hidden speakers for a radio, toys, drone etc. Also how about 240 volt sockets built into lower ie below knee part of the seat to plug laptops, phone charger, electronic games into.
Only a thought, as storage space on a boat is a premium. Cheers.
Ooooh I like the sound of that. Now you’ve given me something to think about tonight. That would work nicely - a fold down back - excellent - good man !!
Ooooh, shiny! ;o)
Fantastic!
Will your dinette convert into an extra bed ?.
Hope the fitting of the Stern gland goes to plan and are you able to run the engine or do you need the canal to provide the cooling. looking forward to the ceiling being installed that's a difficult task to complete.
If it feels right for you, it is right, plus you can see out of the windows and hatch.
How far off getting that fire going, this winter my one is on every day 🔥
A few days away still. Wiring, ceiling lining and flue need to be sorted before that but there are delays afoot
Great progress James, I'm loving it 👏. Whilst I understand the desire to get the boat on the water, if the costs are similar would it not be better working where you are whilst getting more jobs done (ie better access, blacking, etc) and delaying the launch a couple of weeks?
I’m hoping to carry on the rest of the fit out here on the pontoon - best of both worlds, access and canal views !!
I think you need a support on the corner where the end seat joins the sofa.
hope I am not too late with the small gift hope it is still usefull Ihave watched from day1
It looks as if the dinette frame against the bulkhead goes right to the end. When you install the facing plywood it will be extending into your hallway. Or are you putting a frame on the bulkhead? I am just thinking that it would be easier to change the length now than later. All together, nice job!
Another great video James, love the progress and bet you can’t wait to have the flu fitted and the fire lit👌Should there not be a platform beneath the dinette to give the correct height and foot position when sitting at the dinette... Not to mention the “hidden storage compartments” that would be gained?
(I) unless you're going to use your dinette for sleeping, why not have a domestic table?
(ii) if you have three separate seats on the long axis could you not have single cushions and hinged seats for access to the storage. You'd need a further longitudinal timber at the base of the back cushion which itself could hinge forward to give simple access to the rear void.
(iii) is MDF man enough to take adult bums rather than marine ply?
Loving your daily dose of pleasure by which we live vicariously through your endeavors.
The dinette will be used as a bed at times so no domestic table. I’d rather 2 bigger cushions as it’ll be used as a bed. I’m not sure about MDF either - it seems wrong to bring MDF anywhere near a boat - even though I’m really hoping it’ll be pretty dry and moisture free.
Glad you’re liking the videos and my journey with this one !!
👍🏼
When practising your sitting position you didn't consider the added height of whatever floor you put in ;)
Well if you put a board down on the couch you can put a sleeping bag And sleep on the boat now. I would! Lol
Has lockdown put a stop to the build until mid Feb if lucky?
Nope not so far. Got timber ordered today and it’s being delivered after lunch. Solar etc is all on track. Crane operators are working as they should and the wharf is open for business. So thank goodness, we’re all being careful but still managing to work
Were you able to assess the engine when you bought the boat James. ?
Yes but only a bit. I saw it running !!
You can google all of the standard measurements for furniture. Chair height should be about 16 inches / 400 mm.
Looks like The right height.
What is the height of the dinette board from the floor?
The dinette table will be 30” which is the British standard height for a table
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It might feel low cause the windows are highter than normal.
Hi James, I can’t stop watching the video, what are you going to name her? A good name would be, making me wait.
You’ll have to wait a little longer until you find out the name. I’ve said it before on a previous video of sorts - very hard to spot though !!
Thanks for your kind words
When you get to the table make it free standing with legs that can fold up if you use them stupid fixed pipes they will drive you mad trying to wiggle around the table to sit down or even when walking about you can't push it out of the way if free standing you can move it to get into you seating position then pull it in place when moving around the boat you can push it to one side to make more room and in the better weather you can take it out on your back deck for alfresco dining or on to the tow path for a barbie
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I don't know how you can do it but it would be better if you could give us a more detailed idea of what you are going to do tomorrow, rather than just show us what you've done today, then people can offer suggestions before you do it. I think I would have considered the long and the short benches the other way round, i.e. I would have made the short bench deeper with a more reclined back and consider the 'return' as a sort of 'armchair ' position, i.e. slightly reclined with feet on the floor, and you could also sit, similarly reclined, with your legs up on the long bench. The long bench would mainly be used for dining when there are several people on board and would be more upright. This would encroach less on the width of the boat particularly when you gave a table there.
I think I originally misunderstood what you intended and I don't think I was clear in my comment either. I think it turns out we agree that there should be at least two 'lounging' (i.e. reclined) seat positions facing lengthways.The more reclined you try to make the seat positions facing widthways, the more restricted it will be in the saloon. I heard an American girl on another vlog refer to her boat as a longboat rather than a narrowboat and I thought that's a bit like 'glass half full or half empty'. Better to think of the boat as long rather than narrow and the saloon is probably where you are most aware of the width.
YEAAAA