The Hidden Underwater Theatre Of The Cold War | Submarines In Enemy Depths | Timeline
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- The Cold War was a deadly game in the depths of the oceans. More than 20 collisions between American and Soviet submarines are only the tip of the iceberg as far as these secret operations are concerned. The underwater interface was perhaps the most merciless frontier between East and West. This documentary reveals previously unknown information from the military apparatus of both sides, and shows that submarines continue to be an important weapon in the espionage war even today.
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In the movie, "K-19" one of the things that the movie crew did that ONLY someone familiar with nuclear power would know, is that radiation doesn't glow green... however, water, exposed to ionizing radiation glows the most beautiful azure blue that you've ever seen (and pray you never do). I served as a missile tech on board a U.S. sub... my heart goes out to those Soviet sailors who gave their lives in saving their boat and the lives of their comrades who sailed aboard it.
Thank you for your service Bonesaw. Have you seen the azure blue water?
Thank you for your service. A neighbor of mine served on one of our Nuclear Boats in the 80s. He told me a lot, but I am sure there is a lot more he could not speak of.
Nobody asked and your wrong stop feeding mis information
@@user-oj9iu2yr1w what are you on about?
Cherenkov radiation, completely normal phenomenon.
I was a nuclear trained EM1(SS) PLANKOWNER on the USS Bremerton (SSN-698) from 1980-1984. This was during Ronald Reagan’s first term as President while we were really going head-to-head with the Soviet navy. I really enjoyed your documentary on subs during the Cold War. It brought back many fond memories from that time and even had some information I had never heard before. The US was so far advanced in technology (and safety) over the Soviets that we could locate and follow Soviet boats for weeks at a time without them having any idea we were there. Our sonar technology was so good that we could identify by name Soviet submarines by the sound they transmitted in the water, which was like a fingerprint. Each submarine, its machinery and propulsion has a distinctive sound. The US spent a lot of time and money on making our boats quiet while the Russians spent theirs on speed and maximum depth. In the event we ever went to war, a large number of Russian submarines and sailors would not survive the first few hours. I also remember the first time I saw the NR-1 and thought you would have to be insane going down in that thing. Those were some seriously brave sailors.
My family immigrated to the US in ‘82…only saying this because communism wasn’t profitable for the country except for the few hundred members at the top (the Politburo) who don’t know how to conduct business therefore things go downhill fast. Look at Cuba’s state of affairs as copied from the Soviet model. Also remember their finances were in shambles not only due to the system itself, but the disaster in Afghanistan (‘79).
And yet a traitor was telling the Soviets where all the boats were, all of the time.
John Anthony Walker. To an extent. Even the US Navy didn’t know where subs were all the time. They knew the “box” we were assigned to patrol, the path there, the path back and the time we were supposed to show up in port. Any Soviet vessel entering our patrol area would be detected long before they got near us. We did not transmit our location. That is why it took 5 months to find the USS Scorpion after it imploded, and that was only because Navy hydrophone stations around the ocean heard the implosion and they could triangulate on it and provide a search area. He did do a lot of harm though.
@@philbeattie6935 like Lenin said.
U always have useful idiots.
lol stop lying and trying to be liked.
Those 9 Russian submariners who sacrificed their lives to repair their nuclear reactor were extremely brave men!!
Thanks for spoiling it💯
and US navy rescued the remaining abroad K-19, thats more overwhelming
They were heros!
It is not like they had a choice
@@borcemiovski Yes they did!! Those men deliberately chose to sacrifice themselves to avert a world threatening catastrophe: and their actions were successful.
13:35 wow, now THAT right there is a true hero badass. A guy that saw the horrible effects to his comrades still volunteered to go in to save the rest of them. He deserves his own submarine, ship, and building named after him. Highly IMPRESSIVE
the cold war is one of my favorite things to learn about
Brrrrrrr
me too, it’s so interesting & some aspects sound so absurd/borderline unreal
I lived through it...the rumors that would run around were crazy...for example, we heard a rumor that the Russians had a chemical weapon that could cause every cut you ever had in your life to open back up again and you would bleed to death
If you like the cold war and submaries, I hope you have read Blind Man's Bluff by Sherry Sontag as its about US Submarine Espionage through out the cold war.
@@davidparadis490 But you always knew MAD would always prevent WW3 because Nato and Russia were not suicidal. It still holds today.
Watching from Greece.hi everybody.
Great documentary.
Hi from Serbia
@@petarswift5089 Καλημέρα (good morning) Serbian friend.
Hi from London
@@sexynelson100 Καλημέρα (good morning) London.
My mothers younger brother Master Chief Petty Officer Paul Sharp served 23 year in the Submarine service right when all this was going on , retired 1982 as Chief of the boat
Which boats?
The SOVIET sailors who went into the radioactive engine room on this boat were literally COOKED alive! They didn't stand a chance BUT they SAVED their other comrades lives in sacrificing themselves.
But the people who designed Russian reactors should be shoved into one. So many shortcuts to get performance.
@@icecold9511 I don''t think you can blame the engineers either, as they were forced to cut corners and as a result delivered unsafe boats. The politicians are the ones who should have been shoved in there, they're the ones who pressured everyone else into a dangerous situation. But that's a tale as old as time, sadly.
The reactor cooling system was down and those techs had to enter the highly radioactive REACTOR COMPARTMENT to repair it, not the engine room. My hat is off in celebration to those brave souls who entered that compartment to perform those heroic acts knowing that their lives were compromised. RMCS(SS)GWest USN RETIRED.
That German sub, the first true sub, they talked about at the beginning was way ahead of it's time. Fortunately for the Allies it was launched too late at the time to make any difference.
Elektroboote Type XXI was not the first true submarine, on 2 counts: She still had to break the surface w/ her snort to let her diesels breathe, & allowing that nuke power is not the defining difference of a true sub, the WWI British R class was designed to operate submerged in her antisubmarine role, battery-powered speed being higher than diesel surface speed, w/ teardrop hull form & all-bow torp battery. An American Holland class also had her best speed submerged, but this was anyway close to the heart of Holland designs. The Japanese had some very fast submarines as well, starting w/ a prototype pre-Pacific War (I just love that expression).
SSN 571's nuke power submerged performance drove everyone nuts, not just the Russians; imagine punching thru sonar cones @ 22 knots, 10 knots faster than peak effective pinging speed. The George Washington SSBN myth of actually cutting Skipjack hulls in half 2 install the SLBM batteries is bunk; the first boat had a few keelplates laid down, but the cutting was to the blueprints. And there were 5 of the class. There R plenty of other errors in the first third of this vid.
In the early 1950s, Russia had over 400 subs; the west was in a near-permanent state of incontinence over this. And there were Alot of fun-n-games in 1968 alone; wonder when all of that will be declassified (not at all soon, I'm sure).
Subs R beautiful 💙.
I doubt if the Typr XXI even if introduced earlier would have made the difference in the Battle of the Atlantic because of the breaking of the Kriegsmarine signal codes and the development of ASW weapons, Sonar, Hedgehog and Long Range MRA planes, like the Sunderland and Liberator.
Actually it wasn't. The Germans were on the right track, but hadn't solved the noise generation problem from the hull at higher submerged speeds. Nautilus was always intended as a test platform based on the XXI hull, but the one big problem it had was that its Sonar was useless over a few knots due to hull noise. That's what led to the change to the teardrop and cigar shaped hull designs.It took the Russians a bit longer to make the change.
The American post WWII conventional diesel electric TANG class submarines were built using the type XXI technology. And much better built than the Russian Soviet FOXTROT class. I toured a FOXTROT class boat in San Diego with two of my older fellow SubVets in 2009. We all three agreed that the Russian built boat was ghastly in it's crew habitation features, or lack there of.
@@jamesbugbee6812 The US Navy nickname for USSR submarine sonar that was first one produced during the Cold War was "Helen Keller"!!
I went on the Russian Scorpion Submarine in Long Beach CA, docked next to the Queen Mary in 2008. Fortunately before it was allowed to fall apart and have tons of pictures. It's not every day you get to look through the periscope of a Soviet Sub Captain as a WW2 buff, amazing experience.
That's fn cool!! I love subs & sub warfare!!
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THE LAST STATEMENT AT THE END SAYS IT ALL.
Excellent documentary , I regret not speaking more to some submariners I once knew.
Yes....
@@magedradwan2459 indeed….
Do you agree with my comment on your documentary video?
Served on 4 ssbn missile subs from 1970-93. Much of this doc is pretty darn accurate....seems to leave out however how close knit and great dedication the crew had among each other however. We were TIGHT when submerged for 70 days north of the artic circle!
Did you ever meet a Sonar Tech named Tom Evans? He is my brother in law. He got out in the early 80s. My brother was in from 62-75 also a Sonar tech. He even taught school in the late 60s. He was on fast attacks. I did one enlistment as a tech on P3s in the early 70s.
@@Chris_at_Home Can't say i knew Tom, my brother was also a sonar tech on uss tecumseh. Working on P3s had to be cool!!
@@Mike-jw4xh We are a Navy family. My brothers are quite a bit older. My other older brother was an ordnanceman in both P2s and P3s. He only did one enlistment. I met some of the guys he was in with that stayed in and were in my squadron. I grew up about 20 miles from Groton and even worked at EB a short time after I got out. I saw the first sections of the Ohio come together while working there. It wasn’t for me as I liked electronics more. I moved here over 40 years ago and retired from a very large communications company doing things like working the pipeline communications and the earth station that provides most of the communications for rural Alaska.
@@Chris_at_Home Former P-3C Orion Inflight Ordnanceman here (1990-1995). Cheers!
Thank you for your service and sacrifice.
I served in the US NAVY silent service for four years, very interesting time in my life
Really....What boat, rate, and what years?
@@CYBERVISIONSdotCom USS CHEYENNE SSN773 SK2(SS) 2003-2007
@@JimmyJ-6920 How'd you manage to swing E-5 in 4 years?
@@CYBERVISIONSdotCom When I made E-5 I was Frocked 6months before then started getting paid for it 2 months before I got out
@@JimmyJ-6920 What I'm trying to understand is that Chops aren't a Tech Rating, & don't (or didn't that I remember) have any accelerated advancement (e.g., post-A School AEF pushbutton). FYI - STS1(SS), SSN-653, '81-'88.
This was utterly fascinating. I have NEVER heard of this Swedish coastal waters incident. Excellent documentary.
I remember it well.
-Lived in Norway 🇳🇴 at the time.
*Monumentally* interesting occurrence ! (Sorry about my over-enthusiasm there) 😉
(But it really was)!
-Cheers, Karl Trausti from Iceland 🇮🇸
Also: The Soviet sub had nuclear torpedoes on board -(but not ICBM's).
-This was confirmed by close-up readings from a Swedish SBS-rubber-dinghy.
The whole situation was *VERY* tense. At one time the Soviet navy came sailing in at speed.
At 12 km's they were (of course) covered by radar. -When they reached the 4 km's distance line, the 🇸🇪 Swedish radar switched over to "frequency jumping" (wich is basically when they are going to fire) ...that made the Soviet armada ✋ stop - at only 4 km's !
-Eventually Soviet tugs were allowed to come and drag the sub from the reef.
-Later it was discovered that the Soviet sub had orders to detonate the nuclear torpedoes if attempts had been made to board them.
-Not many people know this (really❗) ...but this was in fact one of the absolute most tense incidents of the cold war !
(I've only given an overview of the happening here -hope you find it interesting) 😬
-Cheers from 🇮🇸
Karl Trausti Barkarson. 😃
@@karlbark that must've been nerve racking. How do you feel about the alleged "maneuvers" done by the US Navy possibly done to escalate hostility between Sweden and the USSR? And on a personal note, how do you feel about the current situation of Sweden joining NATO?
The incident was dubbed "Whisky on the rocks"
You have to respect and admire the bravery and selflessness of the Russian sailors who sacrificed themselves on K-19 to save their comrades and avert disaster. Epic courage.
And the criminal negligence of Russian navy for shoddy reactor design and no radiation suits.
It would have been wonderful to have a GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR.
Now please let us pray for a GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR that wipes out the entire planet. Oh how I would love to write about the aftermath of a GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR. Please do start a GLOBAL THERMONUCLEAR WAR IMMEDIATELY!
@@bohemoth1 Edgy teen, get out of your mom's basement for once.
Was there a movie with Harrison Ford about that sub?
@@AnthonyParrilloRI
Yes. It was called "K-19 - the Widowmaker". Excellent movie, take from a former submariner.
My dad was a submarine commander in the late 70's to mid 80's. As far as I knew he just went off on "excercises", only later all the stuff they actually did would come out. The Cold War stories even the relatively small Dutch navy could tell are as amazing as they are harrowing. It was (is?) a chessgame of epic proportions.
What boat was your dad on? I served 1980 to 1988.
What boat did he command in the 80s ,you're dad and I could have been shipmates
wow thats so cool, im sure your dad told such amazing and immersive stories to you
Good for your Dad sir. Thats a brave man. Exciting stuff he had a bunch of stories about it I bet.
What boats?
This is one of the best episodes in the series
'You shouldn't show your periscope more than a centimeter above the surface' - what a load of old rubbish. You would not see a thing if you did that.
How many of you just fast forward through the brief 30 second intro in all these videos? I do. Sorry.
All of us with sense.
Not me
Im getting sick of the arrogant british guys refusing to show the crimes of the british empire in their own documentary expose and so is the asian middle eastern and african world lol read the comments on the gadaffi one
You pay for premium but you still somehow get ads.
So do i
I love how complicated history and historical change is . Woow
I'm an old "cold warrior", I served on O-boats - diesel electrics. As one of these chaps said; it didn't always feel cold. We would hunt and "kill" Soviet boats and, at the time, I didn't care one bit about them as people... just something to be hunted and killed when required.
Listening to these Russian submariners I now think that they are more my brothers than the people I was supposedly protecting back home.
I was at Faslane in the 70's
BS
So your a commie
Of course they are your brothers. Both sides were protecting at home something that is EVIL at its core and that evil also works together without public knowledge, secretly conspiring to bring this world to an end. We are in the last of times were the most of the ordinary people finally understands that they were fighting the WRONG enemy all this time.....Even General Patton said the same words after the defeat of Germany.....
from his diary:
2 September 1945
I had never heard that we fought to de-natzify Germany - live and learn. What we are doing is to utterly destroy the only semi-modern state in Europe so that Russia can swallow the whole.
Thanks for your service Christopher. From an Englishman who had uncles in RN Subs :)
This series is amazing 🤩
I can’t believe they got some of these high-ranking Soviet military officials to speak on Camera about it
They were interviewed after the fall of the USSR. They may even be from one of the Warsaw Pact countries that all declared independence after the collapse.
...is this your first ever documentary you ever watched ? what is this ?
the series dated back to 2002
@@Dinco422 I watch documentaries all the time but I have never seen this Particular one
@@Dinco422 why so snarky 🤷🏾
Thanks so much for sharing. I thought I'd seen every Cold War documentary ever created, until I watched this. An amazing subject which blows me away.
U-Boat, Windows 91.
Seems weird that a documentary about about the development of nuclear submarines wouldn't even mention Hyman Rickover. It's as if U.S. Navy brass scrubbed Rickover from history. That's too bad .... because without Rickover, the U.S. wouldn't have been the first to deploy nuke submarines four years before the Soviets did and the U.S. wouldn't have maintained that lead through the end of the Cold War.
Absolutely. I kept waiting…
Unfortunately, after Rickover goaded and cajoled the USN and WEC into developing the first successful PWR Nuclear Steam Supply System suitable for the Nautilus, for undisclosed political reasons (probably because personally he was being marginalized for being a demanding SOB), he later on went from being a proponent to PUBLICALY going on the record as an antagonist, basically claiming the "monster" he created was being mishandled when it came to waste disposal, de-commissioning, etc.
This was ironic in the light of the fact that under HIS command, initially the Nautilus publicly was rushed into being launched under battery power only, without the working NSSS in place!
I served on the Nautilus as a caretaker. Up in Groton. You cant go a day without seeing his face posted somewhere. But yeah as odd as he was. Perfection and redundancy is never a bad Thing when it comes to Nuclear Power. Also He was the Director of Naval Nuclear Propulsion Program during my first 2 years in His program. I served also under the Next 3 Directors as well. When the 1MC announces Naval Reactors Arriving. Even the CO Jumps. And these Directors were really good at surprise Visits. Gosh the stories the young officers told me about HGR during their required interviews.
I was one of the first civilians to be granted access to the SOSUS stations in the early 90’s. When I was active duty Navy we never even said the word SOSUS and now I’m working in some tracking whales and underwater seismic events. Truly incredible system.
oh no you were not, stop making stuff up.
Very cool!
Very cool indeed! Did you ever hear anything truly unusual while using this system, along the lines of the infamous "Bloop signal" ?
@@SevenSixTwo2012 we heard sooooo many odd things. They ranged from crackling sounds to whoops. To the best of my knowledge we never heard anything that wasn’t later explained. To the schmuck who said no I didn’t just search SOSUS, Nishimura or Clark.
@@kaptainkaos1202 Awesome stuff, thanks! Exploring the deep must be just as mysterious and exciting as exploring other planets. Not only regarding natural occurrences, but also with the latest info about declassified UAPs / USOs by the US Navy. There appears to be many things we still don't know about our oceans.
I served on the uss Alexander Hamilton ssbn617 in the mid 80s ,what a time to be a submariner!
Thumbs up if you played Microprose's "Silent Service - A Submarine Simulation" on their Commdore-64 when they were a teen 👍.
As a cold war Submariner, at last our story is being told.
Have you read the book; "BLIND MAN'S BLUFF US submarine operations during the cold war?" There is actually a documentary based on the book.
Is it true the old Soviet fleet was more of a threat than what they have now due to low maintenance and funds lack of new submarines? Kursk was hit with a torpedo I still believe on accident and Russia and isa covered it up to avoid all our war. Opinion on that ?
This is an old show bro
Yeah right
I can't believe these pro documentaries are free, thanks alot. I really enjoy your contents
another great video from TIMELINE!
Any idea who originally made it?
Hyman Rickover deserves a mention in regards to American submarines, he’s known to many in the states as “Father of the Nuclear Navy” for a reason. 🇺🇸
Aye! ⚓️
@@dtaylor10chuckufarle I'm surprised they did not mention him despite the fact he has to submarines named after him.
My mom & dad (submariner) said Rickover was a**hole.
"Can you get more than one submarine in twenty years?"
- How much money do you have?
I enjoyed the documentary. I guess some people don’t like history in the context of times. I was a teenager and remember a mentioning of this on news but zero information other than vagueness. Thank you for your presentation
I served on board the SSBN 601, the third one built after the GW. The 598 class were ancient in 1980 when I joined up. These boats were tough as they come and completely analog. We all knew that our own boat could kill us as fast as any enemy. It's a testament to the training that we all survived and so far to date only two American boats were ever lost and no Boomers. The Lee was one of those which started out as a fast attack and was converted then later reconverted back at the end of its life. I'll miss her. She was a good boat.
No electronic trim? No digital GPS? You must have been on last cruise, as Lee was decom'ed in 1983.
601(b) & combined crew for 3rd overhaul
Aug75- Aug77
Did the mess cooks also had to complete Submarine School?
@@dkoz8321 yes that’s the first step just to get on subs
For some unknown reasons when I finished qualifying as a Nuke at S-1-W prototype they didn’t send nukes to sub school but I’ve heard nukes are going many considered it a vacation for nukes
@@clearingbaffles Did you have to survive interview with Admiral Caligula?
Turns out that my brother's wife's mother is related to Adm. Rickover.
There is a documentary about the raising of the submarine. So yes, there is footage of it. Azorian: The Raising of the K-129
This should be available and shown in every modern history class across the globe. Im glad both sides had control of their emotions and even fearful respect of each other.
My Father used to Drive for Dr. Teller . He was a man of very few words .
Wow. Dr Teller was amazing. He understood the West was better than any despotism
Dr teller ,had put up with 3 despotic nations hitlers germany hungarys ties to the axis,and as a jdw being sent to auschwitz,and when the germans surrendrred .Hungary became a soviet sattelite state.
More cold war docs pls. Ty. 🙏
I worked on the NR-1 while on shore duty stationed at 31-Fox Hydraulic Shop in NSSF New London CT. MM1/SS Retired here.
Remember: when we do it you're supposed to use the terms 'surveillance' 'reconnaissance' or 'gathering intelligence.'
'Espionage' is what our adversary does... even though it is exactly the same thing we do to them...
The info I had about the Soviet subs and crew morale was that the crews did not want to crew their own nuclear subs. They would rather be on older stinky diesel boats because of the fears that the reactors were unsafe. I was a Sonar Tech for the Navy. Diesel boats are very quiet when on batteries. More so than their Nuke boats.
Now that many nations have AIP technology, the smaller boats have a clear advantage close to shore in brown and green-water environments.
Diesel electrics are always terrifying. Anything running on batteries has very little need to make noise.
We may differ philophicaly but those men were just as brave as anyone..we should have a award for sailors like that..no matter what country we are from.
Now you're talking.
Amazing people and their amazing struggles for their country.
This is some amazing stuff. I can only imagine some of the things that took place that we have never heard of
Another excellent documentary. thanks
The book Red November also contains some really excellent information and accounts of the submarine force during the cold war. After I read the book, I immediately realized that I had served with 2 people that were most likely involved in doing the things described in the documentary.
If I may, I would like to recommend the book; Blind Man's Bluff: US Submarine Operations During the Cold War.
It doesn't matter which Country these people came from. They were very brave men who did there best.
quality work as usual, well done team
chills everything they show the underwater animation so helpless
I didn't know there was a "boat of the month" club. And I worked as a Caretaker in the US Submarine Museum. Also served on 5 Nuclear Submarines. Good Documentary. Never to old to learn.
The frigate I was on In the 80's was designed to chase subs. We picked up one Russian sub north of Bermuda and lost it about 800 miles off the coast of France. She's been sold to Taiwan since then though. Chasing Chinese subs now!
A KNOX-CLASS ASW-FRIGATE NO?
@@jonathanstrong4812 yup. FF 1096. She still looks good.
Great documentary, very entertaining and informative.
7:31 That was First Lady Jacqueline Kennedy christening the USS Lafayette. A class act.
Took her two whacks, too! :)
@@TheSanityInspector Isn't that considered a bad omen, if the bottle doesn't shatter in the first attempt?
I saw her too. How young back then
Her? A class act? Maybe if you mean her looks in which case you need to brush up on your English. In her character and morals she is definitely not a class act.
I took a tour on the Nautilus submarine, back in the 80's, that's docked in Connecticut. There were 2 navy guards, standing in front of the hatch, that leads to the reactor room. I said to the guards, the reactor is still classified, isn't it? They both nodded their heads yes.
My grandfather was a nuclear engineer he'd flip if he saw the basically open realtor control hub on top on K-19 like...holy...
0:55 Nice to know that people on the other side of the Iron Curtain thought poorly of their politicians too.
I was in a cab today with a Kenyan, who told me about how on really low ranking politician in Kenya was being investigated by the fraud office, three officers were visiting his home were the local politician offered a drink to the fraud officers, which they accepted, and he took the chance and jumped out the window and tried to run away. They caught him, and found $400,000 in cash in a suitcases, in his bedroom, all in $20 notes alarming isn't it? Politicians the world over serve themselves instead of the people they are meant to.
Russian and history major here. There is a lot that the average person does not know which went on "behind the Iron Curtain"
@@ramsesv5339 Like?
There's quite a well-known saying which (in effect) says that one of the biggest differences between Russians and Americans is that at least the Russians usually know/realise when their government is lying to them)
Submarines are the most complex and interesting type of water vessel. And I love these old documentaries.
I remember the reports of the Soviet submarine stranded on the Swedish coastline. I believe that occurred a couple of times.
Only once, officially that is....
The press humorously called it "whiskey on the rocks"
THAT WAS A BIT UNPLEASANT FOR THE SOVIET-SUBMARINE-COMMANDER GULAG I SUPPOSED
I recall that during the time the Swedes were hunting Soviet Subs it was big news, at the same time in Canada Hockey Host Don Cherry bemoaned the fact that Sweedish players in the NHL were to scared to go into the corners to fight for control of the puck in the opponent's end of the ice. It all came hilariously together when on National TV he suggested the Soviet sub should hide in a corner somewhere since the Swedes would never look for them there.
I remember that! Grapes never showed any mercy towards Swedes playing in the NHL...or Finns or Czechs etc unless they dropped the gloves and fought lol
LOL
One hit a rock and got stuck in the Swedish archipelago, it was a whiskey class submarine. Whiskey on the rocks 😂
There was one Soviet sub, the rest was Italian build subs controlled by Reagan's administration.
The word is smart, not scared. But the word "smart", North Americans do not know the meaning of.
Love that I am a qualified Bluenose! Even surfaced at the North Pole once!
Sobering descriptions of the K-19 and K-129 disasters! I also remember hearing the passing of another submarine while on my way back from a North Atlantic op.
Also remember the NR-1 while it was homeported in Groton, CT, while my boat was attached to DevGrp12. Always wondered what it would have been like to be stationed on her.
Hey fellow Bubble Head. I commissioned the USS Dace in 1964 and we were assigned to SUBDEVGRU2 as a replacement for the Thresher. I don't know if the event is still classified but right after we fired a wire-guided torpedo at the USS Hardhead, they stopped snorkeling and the torpedo ended up in their fairwater.
Sweet doc. Thanks. I was TM3(SS) Barrows aboard the USS William H Bates (SSN680) from 75 - 78
I have seen the photographs of the harbor intrusions that the diver at the 27:00 minute mark speaks about. They were in a classified manual that I had a chance to look at when I was in the service. They are some VERY cool photos!! I'm surprised that that guy can even walk with the size that his balls must be.
Got the photos?
@@bmw_m4255 Nope. I didn’t feel like doing time in Leavenworth Military Prison for stealing Secret and Top Secret information.
The old US Navy joke during the Cold War was the fastest way to determine which Soviet sailor is currently serving on or had been on one of their nuke subs was to turn out the lights! (i.e. they had been exposed to so much radiation that they glowed in the dark....)
NOT FUNNY!
NOT FUNNY!
Excellent Doc. ! Thank you
What bravery! beyond all duty. Going in that room knowing what's going to happen, even if you don't believe it yourself.
John Pina Craven, finally someone who describes Edward Teller for what he truly was - a brilliant scientist and a totally insane fanatical war monger.
They claim that military techonological invetions have benefited civil society a great deal. Imagine if all the time and energy, research and knowledge spent on developing everything used to prepear for war had been used to benefit civil society directly in the first place.
Still, don't forget to consider all of the technology developed for war that HAS improved human life. Nuclear power, the GPS system, the Internet, etc... It seems that war is a double edged sword.
@@SD-pi9co - Did you read and get the fundamental point in my last section?
@@SD-pi9co ALL of the solid state (including I.C.) is the direct benefit of the combination of Space and Military Research! (One example: The smaller and more reliable the guidance system is, the bigger the warhead that you can fit inside of the missile's body!)
(Or make a pacemaker with the more powerful ICs, along with hearing aids, radios that don't use up portable batteries in a hour or so... (yes, I was a kid when that was happening. A transistor radio was a big improvement, but about the size of 6 "smart" cellphones stacked together (thin side))!)
Laptop and Desktop tech are almost always declassified military hardware!
Edward Teller never made American military/political policy.
Teller made a very strong impact in the developing of the Hydrogen bomb. In fact, he is considered to be its 'father'. He was also a great supporter and a driving force for an unassaiable arsenal of nuclear weapons in general, a basic for the arms race, not only during the Cold War but also the present threat these weapons forge. Anyone who truly understands the insanity in this and how many times humanity have been just minutes or seconds away from a nuclear ragnarok, and what pure luck or last minute decisions that have avoided it, knows how important it is to ban these weapons.
Again, for those who inevitably argue with how much military science, research and techological development has contributet to civil society - try to imagine what the world would be like if all this work had directly benifited civil society and peaceful measures in the first place.
I’ve never been in the armed forces or know much about anything to do with submarines but totally tip my hat to all of these brave men and women on these vessels. To be a superpower, you need to be also a beast in the water and not only on land and in the air. I respect every single one of you that serve on land, air and water to keep me and my family safe. Thank you to all those that served as well as their families at home taking care of the kids and holding the fort down while their spouse serves. The housewives at home are also the true heroes.
The US armed forces hasnt been keeping your land safe, they have just un-provoked been killing innocent civilians left and right since the Korean war. Japan was the last time you fought for a real reason
14:30 The Names of these Men Need to be remembered. That kid of heroism Needs to be honored.
Well Done Thou Good And Faithful Servant.
#excellent episode
thank you #TimelineWorldHistory
Now that's how you smash a bottle of champagne 🍾
I Like Submarine Launching Videos. The gals who get to Christian them are always alarmed when the bottle breaks or doesnt break on the first whack. And they always get sprayed on. Not sure when they started putting the Champagne bottles in a "bottle enclosure" to minimize the glass shatter.
Absolutely masterful documentary. Amazing stories, footage, and interviews! The story that sticks out to me is imagining myself in that submarine that rolled off a cliff and got stuck, the crew trying to "rock it out" from being stuck. Can you imagine the feeling on board and having to keep it together? Submariners are truly special breed. Thank you for this documentary.
As a retired US Submarine sailor I want to thank you for your comment about us. So very kind of you.
I would have washed out of submarine school.
I am don't do well in enclosed spaces with no windows.
I don't even do well in airplanes on a gate delay sitting on the tarmac.
I want out!
As a teen in the early 80's, my friends and I would talk about joining the US Armed Forces upon graduation and go fight "The Commies". As graduation approaches we're one upping each other, "Army, so I can be a Ranger" says Brett, "I'm going Marines" I smirked thinking I was topping them all. My buddy Jim says "I'm going Navy" and Brett and I start ribbing him. Until Jim says "I don't care how many Commies you think you guys can kill. I'm going for Nukes (meaning nuclear powered submarines) and just one of them can destroy cities." Brett couldn't go military, due to physical. I'm an old Jarhead. But Big Jim at 6'2" on graduation day went career Navy and served aboard Hunter Killer subs for most of his 25+ yrs. How did they fit a big boy like him in the smaller sub? Jim's attitude was even bigger. He even married an officer's daughter. Cold War vets. We wanted to fight, but thank God we never had a war.
Amazing doc. Always nice to see how decades of compounded innovation have culminated in such a formidable military power that anyone would think twice before messing with
Witnessed a "Yankee Class" Soviet boat off the East Coast (I believe North of Florida...our home base was Key West). It was surfaced perhaps 1000 yards from us...a model that would have had two missles fired from the sail while surfaced. There was no alarm or concern from our officers as we were surfaced also. Our topside officer (diving officer) informed us of what we were observing. (USS Threadfin SS-410...1969)
Sounds like a Zulu SSB, the Original boomer.
Project 667 Navaga (NATO "Yankee") had the missiles aft of the fin. Two missiles from the fin, as mentioned by Mr Bugbee, is a Project AV611 (NATO "Zulu").
12:28 "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." -John 15:13
If you want to understand cold-war submarine operations, “Blind Man’s Bluff”.
Never knew this many incidents had happend 😮 and still what secrets lay around them
cest vous timeline j'adore vos video ils sont super bien monter
Everyone in the Submarine Service knew of NR1 when I was in. People would apply for transfers to it and I never knew anyone accepted or that had served on it.
I know 2 peeps who were assigned. One the LELT another the MLPO. Her Hull is on Display at the Nautilus Museum in Groton if I recall.
@@lawrenceleverton7426 Cool, one day when I am retired maybe I can go see her. My first boat, the 658 has its sail on display at Mare Island, I often wondered what it would be like to touch her again.
I saw the NR1 tied up beside the tender in holy loch Scotland a few times. Did not know anyone who was ever on it and never was on it or in it. I was on the Daniel Boone SSBN 629.
@@54Ripster I was aboard the Daniel Boone once, just visiting in Charleston, while I was on MG Vallejo 658. You had whitish bulkhead coverings in the Middle level passages didn't you? Outside the Galley in Ops? I think it was probably 1980?
My advisor at Nuclear Power School had been on NR-1 guys that were on her were like Seawolf, Halibut, Parche & Richard Russel sailors they don’t talk about what they did
interesting! enjoyed it!
This videos are the most educational I have viewed.
I 100% believe we got all of K129. Is being kept in the same Warehouse as the ark of the covenant.😊
Too nice video & full of strange & serious informations about submarines capability struggle between USSR & USA during cold war....how was US technology production & capabilities defeated USSR technology & capabilities in powerful, crew's security, detection abilities & using atomic mobility power & carrying ballistic missiles...in continuing movement ...& how a swedish government became victims of USSR naval extorting & US - British intervened...excellent historical channel..
Nice,I like your take.
To the men who go down to the sea in ships, we salute you!
John Craven is the Real Deal folks.
The Swedish journalist speaks almost perfect German
thats OLAF PALME sweedish P.M.
@@joesila3105 a fascinating man and sadly assassinated while walking home unescorted.
@@joesila3105 Olaf Polme also, but I meant the journalist as well as the former Prime Minister
how do you know that the journalist is not German ??
@@CalvinK300 well I have some suspicios who could be the organiser ...
John Craven...Imagine how interesting just talking to him for a bit would be..
He died a few years ago but I agree. If he could talk about the crazy secret stuff he did….yikes. You should get his book The Silent War, by John Craven. It’s amazing if you’re into this stuff like I am. Blind Man’s Bluff, Dark Waters and Undersea Warriors. Best books about secret submarine stuff in existence!
@@towedarray7217 That's a bummer he has passed. R.I.P Mr. Craven... I've seen the doco they made on Blind Man's Bluff, of the same name which I really enjoyed, and I do have the book, but I haven't had a chance to read it yet. I'll sus out the other three you mentioned for sure, Thanks.
@@mattbriody7575 The book is better, but has major errors, in particular the picture of 3 of us surfaced at the North Pole in 1986. It was a major Naval Historical event - and they screwed up the caption. I still use one of the pics as my YT channel background image.
@@towedarray7217 I met up with Bob Ballard back in the 90s and spent some time with Edward Beach during my days Attached to Nautilus. Beach spent alot of time at the Museum researching things. He was a fixture around the place. He had alot of stories in his arsenal about his WW2 Experiences. He wrote many books on the subject of Submarines and The US Navy. I have a signed copy of Run Silent Run Deep back in 1996.
Fascinating!
Outstanding! Jolly good!
Australia is just getting into nuke subs.I whish all sailors safe travels.🇦🇺
Modern nuclear subs are not Russian subs of the era or even American subs of that era . they are safer than diesel subs today
There was a joke: How to recognize the sailors of the Northern Fleet?
Easy, they glow in the dark.
This a great vid all new stuff neva heard b4
Excellent. Seems to cover the Subject Matter up till 1987. End of the Cold War ?
in the late fifties and early sixties we would walk home from school across from nyc, waiting to the 'flash'. not a fun time and 'duck and cover' was a real joke even to we 5th graders. a desk and chair aren't going to save you from a 10k degree blast lest than 2 miles away. a real crazy time. we would say why do our homework? woopee we're all gonna die.
A desk and a chair would save you from flying glass splinters, from thermal radiation (extreme heat) and from falling bits of the building you're in. It won't save you if you're too close, but the non-lethal area of a nuclear blast is many times greater than the lethal area, so you're much, much more likely to be outside of the lethal area.
@@mytube001 it was propaganda to give the illusion of safety. Like telling people to build bunkers but there was no way they'd be able to store enough to actually live through nuclear winter. It's like airport security.
@@isaacgriffin5690 I don't agree. I'm sure propaganda was a side effect, but hiding under desks and chairs does serve a purpose.
@@isaacgriffin5690
Nuclear winter is a theory - it might not be true - especially depending on the size of the exchange. And you would be surprised how little can make the difference between life and death when you are not at the center of the blast. Some in Japan were saved simply by their clothing. There were a lot of people in buildings that even though they were blasted, survived because even a wooden building blocks the initial blast of heat and radiation that kills so many.
@@yyy-875 Sure, giving up and actively trying to die is one strategy. I would've chosen to maximize my chances of remaining alive, though.
Nuclear weapons are grossly misunderstood by the general public. A high-altitude blast creates very little to no local fallout, for example. Fallout is really only a concern when the detonation is at, or very close to ground level, and even then, you should be able to outrun it if you're in a car, ready to leave the area immediately.
Direct radiation is not usually what kills people, unless they're very close to the blast, protected from thermal radiation and the shockwave, but not radiation. In the open, all but the very smallest (single-digit kiloton devices) have a lethal radius for thermal radiation and overpressure that is greater than the lethal radius for direct radiation, so essentially, a nuclear detonation has the same effects as a conventional detonation, just at a much greater scale.
So, hiding from the blast and the flash will likely save you unless you're within the lethal radiation radius of the detonation.
As a Scandinavian, I have oftened been swimming around in the fjords pretending to be a Russian submarine.
They will catch me and ask: "Are you a Russian submarine?!"
I always reply "Njet!", and they let me go.
Lame
If you swim in a fjord, you must be a Norwegian. And that explains everything.
The word you are looking for is Нет as the word No is spelled in Russian.
That’s crazy reality of history
Those poor men dieing by radiation brave men
Thats why you send in the oldest person first.
GOD AWFUL THOSE POOR DEVILS UGH
Dying
I was puzzled by the increasingly anti-American arc of this documentary, as it went on. All these conspiracy theories about Glomar Explorer and Sweden's "Whiskey On The Rocks". All the emphasis on how dastardly the Americans were to the peaceable, totally just minding their own business Soviets. But no equivalent conspiracy theories about the fate of the USS Scorpion, or the rumors of Soviet subs inserting Spetsnaz into wild Alaska on unknown missions? No mention of the Northern Fleet's mini-subs, with which the Soviets infiltrated all Scandinavian territorial waters and left tracks on the seabed, not just Sweden's? Nothing about the Cuban Missile Crisis' deadliest moment, when Soviet sub B-59 came close to launching a nuclear torpedo--prevented by one officer's dissenting vote--at the carrier USS Randolph and her destroyer screen? Nothing about how an American traitor provided crucial submarine technology to the Soviets, enabling them to build subs like the Akula much earlier than anticipated? Then I saw the end credits--all German, mystery solved. German media is highly biased against the U. S. Browse the front covers of Stern and Der Spiegel over the past decade, see how many negative caricatures of the Statue of Liberty you can find. Noted, grain of salt taken with this doco.
Felt the same way
Very well said. At times this was heavily biased, at many times utterly shameful and ridiculous. So unprofessional...but marxists don't even mean to be professional.
Colonel Mustard!!! I'm your biggest fan!
"I don't want my children/grandchildren to die as a result of a casualty of war or of human ignorance." Gloriously spoken Sir. 💐🏆🥂🔥
I was in submarine service from '83-2004 on two fast attack and three FBM boats. I'm still bound by security agreements, but invite anyone to read "Blind Man's Bluff" by Sherry Sontag and Christopher Drew. USN has ways to "compartmentalize" information so that no one person has the keys to the kingdom when it comes to classified information. I was stationed on two of the boats listed in this book. Can't divulge what we did, but the book gives a general overview.
an amazing book BMB
Only a true Submariner would use a name/handle like KrispyKotex.
I read it when it came out great book ! Hats off for you're service God bless !
@KrispyKotex
I look fwd to reading
- Navy Brat