Even the perfectionist makes mistakes...that is how one becomes a perfectionist. We fish flies that are not perfect...we display those that are. Great pattern. Thanks for sharing, Matt. Have a great day!
Yes indeed Todd! And honestly, my last two videos (and next two) were made pretty quickly as I was heading out of town and needed to get four ahead. And the procrastinator that I am, I waited until the last minute to get these extra videos in the can. :-)
Thanks Jim! I'm heading up to Dunlap, TN this morning. Going to spend a couple days with my dad before heading home. Not sure if I'll be able to get any fishing in up that way but I'll do some exploring. :-)
Nice one! Never heard of Andy's weight wrap formula before. It would certainly add consistency to the tying. I know I used to tie patterns heavier for swifter, deeper waters and they'd often look "a little beefier" as a result! Tyer's Technical term: "Skoshe"
I know Jim! I vaguely remember somebody mentioning this formula for number of weighted wraps, but never quite paid attention to it myself. I guess I probably should. :-)
Same here Rocky. Beaver is an interesting material, but funny that you only hear of it used for dubbing, and not really that often. I do wonder if we could buy a beaver pelt and what the long hairs would look like. Hmmm. Might be worth checking out...
Good Morning Sir Matt, I'm really liking this pattern, I don't have black beaver mines is natural so I'm going to try that. Thank you sir for sharing until next time my friend. Have a great day.
Thanks Edward! And you know, I'll bet this fly would still look pretty good with any black fur dubbing. But then again, if we made the body out of rabbit, we couldn't really call it the AP Black "Beaver." Have a great week my friend!
Good morning Matt.Good tie.I use sticky back lead foil more than wire anymore.Add some uv to the wing case,the fly will last a lot longer.Cloie is tying this pattern as I speak.Linda said she was going to tie this one using coc de lon and cdc.Have a great day Matt and thanks. Ken.
Thanks Ken; I've never tried the flat foil for weighting flies but have seen it done before. Maybe it's time I pick some up. Thanks for the note! Good luck to Cloie. :-)
Great tutorial Matt. To me AP meant all purpose, then if I find it's an Andy Puyan pattern then that's what I call it. That came from when I started tying using The Orvis Fly Pattern Index. On nymphs it opens with fur bodies, wing case styles, and 3 styles of legs: beard, divided, collar. They featured 3 "All Purpose" nymphs: light, medium, dark. So that's how I tied all my "ap" nymphs until I found more specific recipes. It's a good book for a novice and good reference for experienced tiers. Never heard of Puyan's formula for weighting patterns, good starting point if you weight your flies. Thanks Matt PS another great thumbnail buddy!
Ha, thanks Joe! I may have the Orvis Fly Pattern Index you're talking about-- I think I've got a couple of their books. And yes! I always thought the AP designation meant "all purpose" as well, and in come cases I think it still does. Interesting note, Mike Valla has several of his flies that he names with his initials as well. So maybe that's a thing. I guess I could come up with a "MO Pink Ugly Hopper." (I was fishing with Jim Holland down here in Georgia yesterday, and my generic pink hopper was the only thing I had much luck with. Other than a few stockers that would eat anything we threw, this was the only fly I caught any wild rainbows with.) A good day on the water though. :-)
@@SavageFlies Hey MO!!! ;o) That's awesome! BTW it's the Orvis "complete and unabridged"', spiral bound, 1978, 1980, 1990 copyrights. John R. Harder author. Beautiful blue feather wing streamer on the cover. Paid $17.96 ages ago at the Paper Cutter, believe it or not :o) Sadly, no pink hoppers in the book :o/
Ohhh… sounds like a couple books I need to find! And your comment reminds me, Mo was my nickname in high school. And I almost called this channel “MO Flies.” 😁
Thanks Tim, and welcome to the channel my friend! Let me know if you ever have any advice or requests. Sometimes we have a fairly active comment section around here. :-)
Good pattern & an ideal one to use as an example for identifying substitutes if you don’t have the specified materials on hand. Mr. Puyans’ idea of correlating the number of weighting wire wraps with the size of the hook. Given his reputation for specifics in fly design, I bet he did quite a bit of practice testing to decide on the formula.
Good morning Matt. Nice job on that nymph. I like the looks of this one. It was interesting to hear about his weight formula as I’ve never read anything about it in anything I’ve read. Take care Matt
Fun fly. I can see where it could benefit from a wee bit of tweaking: a touch of peacock would be nice. I wonder if black bear hair would be easier to work with and keep the color a bit darker? And something about the pattern seems to cry out for red or chartreuse wire for the rib....... No matter, "that dog'll hunt"! 🤩
I think it was 0.015. I'm not looking at the video right now, but whatever I had in the description is what he called for. I think if you varied the diameter from his recipe, the number-of-wraps formula would be thrown off!
You don't tend to use head cement. Really? I have never had much luck with the super glue. I always end up gluing everything except the actual fly, including my fingers. :) :)
Ha! I don't mind using head cement, particularly for reinforcing an underbody or some wraps, but I don't use it very often because my jar of it is usually dried up! But yeah, super glue can make a mess sometimes. :-)
Even the perfectionist makes mistakes...that is how one becomes a perfectionist. We fish flies that are not perfect...we display those that are.
Great pattern. Thanks for sharing, Matt. Have a great day!
Yes indeed Todd! And honestly, my last two videos (and next two) were made pretty quickly as I was heading out of town and needed to get four ahead. And the procrastinator that I am, I waited until the last minute to get these extra videos in the can. :-)
@@SavageFlies 😂😂😂
I love your attitude. “it’s not perfect but you’ll be okay”. Sums up my tying experiences all the time.
I appreciate that Ed! And yep, it’s all about keeping it fun. 🤣
Awwwwwwww…… enjoyed my coffee this morning watching you tie! Nice pick👍
Thanks Jim! I'm heading up to Dunlap, TN this morning. Going to spend a couple days with my dad before heading home. Not sure if I'll be able to get any fishing in up that way but I'll do some exploring. :-)
This looks like a real fish catching fly. Thanks Sir Matt.
Nice tie Matt will be adding this to my box.
Nymphs are some of my favorites to tie.
That's a cool pattern matt.sure Will catch fish.moose is a good material to use for flies.thsnks for video.keep em coming!!👍
Thanks Mike, and yeah I agree about moose. I should probably tie with it more often!
Nice one! Never heard of Andy's weight wrap formula before. It would certainly add consistency to the tying. I know I used to tie patterns heavier for swifter, deeper waters and they'd often look "a little beefier" as a result!
Tyer's Technical term: "Skoshe"
I know Jim! I vaguely remember somebody mentioning this formula for number of weighted wraps, but never quite paid attention to it myself. I guess I probably should. :-)
Nice looking nymph. I’m updating my nymph box and will certainly add this one. Thx Matt
Definitely Clyde! We can never have too many nymphs. 😁
Very interesting tie. Looks like a real fish catcher!!!
Thanks Bob! I appreciate you watching. 👍
Nice job Matt
Very cool, I need to utilize beaver more. Thanks Matt
Same here Rocky. Beaver is an interesting material, but funny that you only hear of it used for dubbing, and not really that often. I do wonder if we could buy a beaver pelt and what the long hairs would look like. Hmmm. Might be worth checking out...
Thanks for the video.
Good Morning Sir Matt, I'm really liking this pattern, I don't have black beaver mines is natural so I'm going to try that. Thank you sir for sharing until next time my friend. Have a great day.
Thanks Edward! And you know, I'll bet this fly would still look pretty good with any black fur dubbing. But then again, if we made the body out of rabbit, we couldn't really call it the AP Black "Beaver." Have a great week my friend!
Thanks Matt, another fish catcher.
Appreciate it Lee!
Really nice Matt thanks
That is a cool looking fly Matt
Will definitely have to try this one out
Thanks for the video
You bet Dave! Appreciate you watching my friend. 😁
Good morning Matt.Good tie.I use sticky back lead foil more than wire anymore.Add some uv to the wing case,the fly will last a lot longer.Cloie is tying this pattern as I speak.Linda said she was going to tie this one using coc de lon and cdc.Have a great day Matt and thanks. Ken.
Thanks Ken; I've never tried the flat foil for weighting flies but have seen it done before. Maybe it's time I pick some up. Thanks for the note! Good luck to Cloie. :-)
Great tutorial Matt. To me AP meant all purpose, then if I find it's an Andy Puyan pattern then that's what I call it. That came from when I started tying using The Orvis Fly Pattern Index. On nymphs it opens with fur bodies, wing case styles, and 3 styles of legs: beard, divided, collar. They featured 3 "All Purpose" nymphs: light, medium, dark. So that's how I tied all my "ap" nymphs until I found more specific recipes. It's a good book for a novice and good reference for experienced tiers. Never heard of Puyan's formula for weighting patterns, good starting point if you weight your flies. Thanks Matt
PS another great thumbnail buddy!
Ha, thanks Joe! I may have the Orvis Fly Pattern Index you're talking about-- I think I've got a couple of their books. And yes! I always thought the AP designation meant "all purpose" as well, and in come cases I think it still does. Interesting note, Mike Valla has several of his flies that he names with his initials as well. So maybe that's a thing. I guess I could come up with a "MO Pink Ugly Hopper." (I was fishing with Jim Holland down here in Georgia yesterday, and my generic pink hopper was the only thing I had much luck with. Other than a few stockers that would eat anything we threw, this was the only fly I caught any wild rainbows with.) A good day on the water though. :-)
@@SavageFlies Hey MO!!! ;o) That's awesome! BTW it's the Orvis "complete and unabridged"', spiral bound, 1978, 1980, 1990 copyrights. John R. Harder author. Beautiful blue feather wing streamer on the cover. Paid $17.96 ages ago at the Paper Cutter, believe it or not :o) Sadly, no pink hoppers in the book :o/
Ohhh… sounds like a couple books I need to find! And your comment reminds me, Mo was my nickname in high school. And I almost called this channel “MO Flies.” 😁
@@SavageFlies Ha ha! Awesome on both counts. Mine was Duke of Earl :o) or "fearsome dukesome" in some circles.
Hey Matt! Brian Wise suggested I stop by and subscribe. Looking forward to more video's!
Thanks Tim, and welcome to the channel my friend! Let me know if you ever have any advice or requests. Sometimes we have a fairly active comment section around here. :-)
Nice job!
Good pattern & an ideal one to use as an example for identifying substitutes if you don’t have the specified materials on hand.
Mr. Puyans’ idea of correlating the number of weighting wire wraps with the size of the hook. Given his reputation for specifics in fly design, I bet he did quite a bit of practice testing to decide on the formula.
I'll bet you're right Bob- and that would be a lot of testing. And dedication.
Good morning Matt. Nice job on that nymph. I like the looks of this one. It was interesting to hear about his weight formula as I’ve never read anything about it in anything I’ve read. Take care Matt
Thanks John; and yes that was an interesting method for keeping the weighted wraps consistent. But then again, I usually just wing it. :-)
This looks good. I’m going to tie a few today. Thanks as always Matt.
Appreciate it Chad!
Fun fly.
I can see where it could benefit from a wee bit of tweaking: a touch of peacock would be nice. I wonder if black bear hair would be easier to work with and keep the color a bit darker? And something about the pattern seems to cry out for red or chartreuse wire for the rib.......
No matter, "that dog'll hunt"! 🤩
Another nice on Matt. LIke Mr. Vatter said the lead wrap formula was new to me. Is there a specific size of wire he specs? Keep the good stuff coming.
I think it was 0.015. I'm not looking at the video right now, but whatever I had in the description is what he called for. I think if you varied the diameter from his recipe, the number-of-wraps formula would be thrown off!
I forgot to ask what do you use for legs
On this one it's just the butt ends of the moose hair, folded back.
You don't tend to use head cement. Really? I have never had much luck with the super glue. I always end up gluing everything except the actual fly, including my fingers. :) :)
Ha! I don't mind using head cement, particularly for reinforcing an underbody or some wraps, but I don't use it very often because my jar of it is usually dried up! But yeah, super glue can make a mess sometimes. :-)