I Just Built the Best Two Stage Highbanker I have EVER Made for Fine Flour Gold Mining!
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- I took everything I learned from my last few highbankers and designed the best possible machine I could that fits as small of a package as possible. I hope my ideals all work out in the field and that this machine proves to be the best fine gold highbanker I have ever built. You never know with these things, as it seems to be an iterative process of designing better and better with each new attempt. I will be out on the river digging for gold soon, and hope you will join me for that in the next video!
PS: If you have a good non-clickbait Idea for a title for this video, please let me know in the comments section.
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Good job with the design. I like how you used the opportunity to utilize every square cm for collecting the maximum amount of "Alberta" gold, while still taking into consideration the final weight of the machine. A (too) heavy highbanker which can only be transported by truck or boat still has limitations for getting to nice gold-bleeding gravel.
great design there, I like the brackets for the feet. You can make the legs with a spring and a tab so you can adjust with a press of a button
This new subscriber definitely likes the curved screen the best to ease the back load of cobbles that tend to build up on conventional grizzly bars. I am assuming by your usage of expanded metal that this combination with miners moss offers the best capture rate for the finest flour gold. Great build!! Thank you!
Well done Kyle. Now git that gold,!!
I'll be out shoveling soon! :)
That’s a pretty wicked new sluice
Thanks!
Great design. I would love to see more on how you make the double levels work. You show it briefly but a better understanding would be awesome.
Nice work. I love this type of video.
Thanks!
I think it'll work great! Nice job 👏
Thanks!
Very cool you tried the laminar flow nozzle, and love to see you try and perfect a design that worked for you.
It looks like the only downside to the design is that nothing really folds down neatly, so it would be pretty difficult to carry around. But that would probably be too much to ask for with so many cool features.
I agree with the lack of folding down making it a bit more awkward to carry long distances. I'll have to work around that on this model and maybe I'll be able to tweak things a bit on the next iteration. On the plus side, IF I can get away without running an extension, that would be a nice bonus... I guess we'll have to wait and see!
Great work as always!!
Out standing!
Thank you Duane! Lot's of experience working with you on the double levels :)
Wow thats a nice clean build. Its all ways fun upgrading to new equipment and that thing has sone wicked processing power.
You may want to look at a bubble squshing curtain (probbably has a propper name) expecially for fine gold it flattens the bubbles to stop gold floating out. Its basically a flap of material that rides on top of the water colum in the box. Bubbles are flattened out by the curtain and the floating gold hopefully squshed into the water and sinks.
That's s good idea! I think I've heard people call them an Alaskan damper...
@@UtmostOutdoors i have read there used in combination with a jarvine riffle apparently they cause more bubbles. The jarvine riffle helps the water dropping down creating a better dead zone for fine stuff to drop out of suspension. The curtain is for squshing the extra bubbles in your water flow 👍
Wicked! Can't wait to see it in action!
Thanks, I can't wait either!
That looks like a truly splendid set up.
With that said I only have one tiny concern with it. The bi layer discharge edge of the sluice is perfectly flat.
When I visualize the flour gold that we in alberta are blessed/ cursed with I can see some of it continuing right on over that level edge right at the very end.
Solution: add a single bend lip right at the very end of both layers of the edges where the water exits that is the same height as the top of the moss. It would only take 2-3 small holes about 1/2” up from the edge with matching holes for the add on lip with wing nuts to secure it from underneath. Call it the last chance rib, where any wayward flour gold that has somehow managed to migrate down to the end would get caught in a very small area of slightly deeper slower water. If it doesn’t work out very little effort or material lost. If it works, total pease of mind that your getting ALL of the gold possible..! 🙂
Best of luck with that magnificent well thought out machine!! My gut tells me that it will definitely work like a dream!
Thanks! I do like the idea of a bottom edge lip, but it also interferes with cleanups. I know the bottom of the moss between the noodle matting and the backing has lots of places for a dead stop to occur right against the backing, but close to the bottom lip, material only half way down the moss could creep out as you say. I will keep a close eye on recovery on my first trip out and see if I can come up with a simple solution that is like a removable bottom lip bar or something.
Seriously I can’t even believe you replied to my idea! Serious respect your way dude.
I still very much agree with your original pretence for your video previous. Best high banker you’ve ever made. And I’ll add probably the best high banker ever made in Canada!
On another note, I found my very first gold ever in the North Saskatchewan right here in Edmonton ! Yay! 😃
Thank you so much for the inspiration! You Rock!
Saturday (tomorrow) I’ll be heading back to the same spot to explore more.
What put me on this spot was I was actually metal detecting for relics along the river shore and ended up stumbling across what I think is the end of the barrel for an old handgun or possibly some piece of a heavy hinge of Somme sort. The most remarkable thing about it though was how heavy the item was for its size. Immediately remembering all of your mentions about finding “heavies” and that being an indicator for locating gold , I pulled out the pan I happened to have with me, and hurriedly panned (it was getting dark fast) 3 one quarter
pans of material . Each of those quarter pans produced about 30-40 colours! The river has thrown up meandering gravel ridges about a foot wide along the riverside shore of a large old overgrown sandbar.
Quite a few very dark, extremely smooth, rounded pebbles that are very heavy found in these ridges along the shore along with those colours. I collected sone of them if your curious to see pics of them.
Excited and Can’t wait to see the results from your new high banker in next weeks video man!
Thanks so much and wishing you all the luck as your out there right now!
Absolutely awesome design!!! Looks flawless! Extra Matt n capture! Beautiful! What’s your website??
Website is linked in the video description, but it's just a prototype for now. Won't be available until this fall after I make it even better!
@@UtmostOutdoors thank you!!!
Beauty creation!
Nice job, hope to see it out on the river catch golds 😎
Thanks! On the river soon I hope!
Sounds great, ill be waiting for it, super smart build 💪
Ya $$ i would buy that , excited to see how it does in the wild .. love your videos !!
That thing is sweet!!
Thanks! I hope she run's smoothly on the first trip out!
That's a beautiful set up. Cannot wait until see how it works out. I think it's going to have a high collection rate.
Another beauty build!
Thank you Vance!
You did a hell of a nice job on that highbanker
Thank you Shane.
@Utmost Outdoors I'm at the old Homestake mine in Lead South Dakota. Presently attending a GPAA meeting. I came to town because I don't have cell phone reception sorry for the late reply but I'm in range so. Thank you for responding back
Nice design looks like a gold catcher
Fantastic hb kyle , that should work quite well I really like the idea of changing the direction for the crash box to slow that material dropping down . genus 💡
Thanks! I hope it works as well in the field as I think it should in my mind...
Kyle - fantastic build, and it looks like a ripper of a machine for that fine AB flour gold! Hopper capture is a bit underrated in my view. Why not capture as much as possible up top, in a different way than the sluice below? Having upward water flow pushes the gold downward and to the upper end of the header box. I wonder if that will help for capturing those pesky thin pieces that act like sails. Perhaps pinning them down with upward flowing water and hydraulic pressure might work! Wouldn't be surprised if you capture 80% of your gold up top, right down to the smallest bits (-100, -200 mesh and beyond).
I'll be adjusting the hopper matting in the future, just waiting on some unbacked moss to show up first. But yeah, I'm really curious how much I catch in the 3 different capture areas. Would be amazing if I can get away with full speed production mining into just a 3 foot long box!
@@UtmostOutdoors are you selling your new highbankers/design? Thanks
Very impressive engineering skills
Thanks!
Great work.. excited to see the field results with some yellow stuff caught
Thanks! You and me both!
Great job I like
I thought what I just built was cool lol. Looks awesome man👍
Looks great. Interesting design. I like the concept of double level. Not sure about the middle box....maybe unnecessary complication? For strength to weight ratio In my opinion aluminium is OK for simple sluices. But for highbanker the best material is 304 stainless steel. Extremely durable. Takes real beating and lasts a lifetime. For non structural sections you can go as thin as 0.5mm. And with good engineering and the right shapes to prevent bending and twisting you can make the construction as light as aluminium but 2-3 times stronger. Plus 304 looks really nice. Especially with tig welds.
Thats a better design than the gold hog range👌if fine gold is the game, you're winning. Ditch the backed matting, its a pain to clean.👍👌🇦🇺
I'll definitely be experimenting with mats this year...
"Experimental Lightweight Two Stage Highbanker?" lol This design looks good! Upon seeing it and how light it was I imagined putting in a rock basket on a big lever in the top box that would simply lift and dump out all the rocks after they are cleaned. Would be "L" shaped wire basket arranged to catch the rocks befoer they can flow out atached to arms sitting along the bottom with a fulcrum at the base of the feeder box, and a lever attached to the fulcrum. the lever would be the length of the box and would lift out and deposit the larger rocks after holding them in place to be throughly washed. Might even make the rocks deposit in a larger pile before having to deal with them. Not sure if it's a great idea but it popped into my head as soon as I saw the design. Excited to see how this works :)
Another little idea is an angled bucket mount above the feeder with a rigid adjustable water feeder to allow the water to empty out buckets for you. Fill a bucket, mount it put the water feeder in start working on the next bucket. I have seen arrangements like that to feed RP-4 Shaker tables. If you look up "ChgImposs 3/8" Thread Flexible Water Oil Coolant Pipe Hose" you'll get it.
Cool ideas! I'm not usually one to feed the sluice with buckets, but it wouldn't be too hard to make a mount for one here... Good call!
@@UtmostOutdoors Yeah :) Those water feeders come in sizes up to 1/2" and can have a spray spreader ending, one option is to simply have the rock catcher "lid" made to fit the buckets, you can send enough water into the bucket to empty it slowly, twist that huge spray bar you made up into the mostly empty bucket to wash the large rocks forcefully and then toss all of the rocks over 4 to 10 feet, no more tailings pile to deal with or at least a lot smaller one. Also if you get an eye for it you might start to spot some jade that way, Fraiser is suppose to have jade on it and Dan Hurd has made a few bucks picking it up on the side. That lid grid could probably be pretty small, might be able to catch everything over 1/2 inch perhaps. Small 1/2" water feeder for mostly sand material, full blaster in bucket for mostly large material. Then we just need a system that loads itself somehow... I have a few ideas for that too, but they are not legal. lol
It is beautiful. I wonder though if all the trouble and weight of making it a two-stage is really worth it. With an extension or the flared sluice you get different processing, but with the two-stage you are just getting twice the same processing. It is also preventing you from making it folding.
I'm hoping to improve how well it folds down in the next model. But one of my design requirements was a very wide sluice. I could have just made the sluice 20" wide, but then it becomes pretty bulky and harder to carry around, and you need to add bracing under it so it won't flex as it's so wide. I'm hoping the double wide will allow a higher feed rate while just trickling water through it to go after the ultra fine stuff. If I can get away without running an extension, then that's one less part to get level and setup each time I move. Lot's to think about and get dialed in for sure though!
Hahahaha Love it Kyle . Now to test the proto type . If bottle necks found tweak. I think you are very very close to the finished kick ass product . Like the quick release screen for possible different mesh sizes
Thanks Bart!
This is the first time I've seen the curved screen used on a highbanker, it makes a lot of sense and should allow you to keep the hopper a little flatter so it can both wash better and capture better.
Yeah, I got the idea from one of my subscribers, Bart. I though it would be worth giving it a try, and I'm pleasantly surprised at how the curve allows it to slide in and out like it does. Hopefully it works well in the field!
6:09 gold hog piglet cameo surprise?:D i like this unit a lot and have one of this :D
Yep! It's very well built! I'll be doing a review and some testing this summer...
Awesome build!!! Can't wait to see it in action 👍. New sub here 👍⛏️😎.
Glad to have you on board! I hope to have it out next week!
Very nice ❤❤❤
Thank you!
Thank you!
You're welcome!
nice unit, i hope it brings you a ton of gold =)
Thanks! Me too...
I found your channel after i started building my new high banker. You would laugh at how similar our theory for building is. Im actually modding four 50 inch Vevor sluices in a stacked design. I dont have weling resources, so rivets it is!
My research aslo proves that a short, stacked sluice with recovery in the hopper and exchange box greatly enhances recovery. Time is money and you have to run a lot of material fast in order to recover good gold amounts. The Gucci rubber mats are inferior to quality moss and expanded metal and to be honest i dont care for gimmicks.
Another bonus of stacking levels is the hopper can be fed lots of water for superior cleaning action while the recovery sluices retain a lower energy flow for fine gold recovery by splitting the water.
Very cool!
Thank you!
shiny new highbanker ! very nice! .... not that you need it lol, how many sluices do you have??
A few.... :)
Did anyone before told you u look like that actor from Games of thrones!! ❤
I've been getting that a lot... "Winter is coming! Must mine gold now"
@@UtmostOutdoors if u r keen to get some views on RUclips make a channel with his name and do some videos looking exactly like him. I guess u will get more money doing that from RUclips. Just an idea 💡
Super!
nice HB!
Thanks!
If you have sizable scraps/leftovers of the aluminum you should weld up a frame for a cart that the sluice and parts can slot into with two wheels on one end and a handle on the other. Might make it easier to haul around if the hike in accceptable for it
If it's cart territory a wheelbarrow setup would be sweet for this thing! have you seen this old setup I tried? ruclips.net/video/pkJUv1irNhc/видео.html
@@UtmostOutdoors I like that setup with the bike tire and fork. Great idea
I’m looking to increase my gold intake I have the Keene mini max with an electric pump hooked up. I find I get the most gold from it when I scoop it into the high banker. Once I start to shovel it seems not to work as good. Maybe I need a longer run.
I think what is happening is you are overfeeding it with the shovel dumps.
The cells in your mat are being overloaded and it is turning into a slick plate for material to ride down.
A longer run may help , at the expense of much more NOT GOLD being caught.
A wider sluice that can handle shovel feeding would be better and then your pump output may need to be increased.
Use the scoop is best option - just spend more time at the creek to compensate.
I like Keene equipment. You might be able to help with the surging of the bigger shovels by bolting down a piece of thick miners moss into the hopper above the screen. It might help to hold the black sand and gold a little bit longer as it slowly gets washed out of the moss and down into the sluice. I think that would be a fairly simple and good bang for the buck thing to try...
wow i didn't know Jaime Lannister is building Highbankers :)
This is amazing. How much would this cost to build? Or are you selling them?
Hey, I did make a production run of 6 of these, but they sold out in under 2 months. You can have a look at some of my newer videos to see how this build progressed and maybe get some ideas out of the testing I did. I plan on doing another production run once I return from Australia at some point, but that might not be for a while.
Well done dude. I think your talent is gonna payoff.
Thanks!
Wanna try it with a wide 4ft extension on nome beach sand, and have 2 guys feed the hell out of it, see how much she can take before a clean out
Nome would be an amazing trip one of these summers... I'm curious how well it can keep up to a single guy shoveling, but running a 4 foot wide extension under it would certainly be a great way to run beach sand!
I've heard Canadians wear socks with sandals..
Not sure where that comes from.
Lol
just wondering what is your trade ?
Hard to say exactly. I have been a carpenter at times...
What about selling 29:47 us a detailed blueprint we can download to build ourselves one?
Hum... I'll think about it. It would require me to actually make a blueprint, which I need to get around to someday...
diamonds, rectangles and ovals for the screen instead of that woven screen, never a circle or square hole
you can get the diamond screen for free from those big air filters off Semi Trucks and Excavators
Interesting. I agree with the round hole punch plate being a bad choice, it gets plugged up and doesn't flow water through it as nicely. But the stainless screen I'm using is actually designed specifically to be used on shaker decks in industry and it had worked phenomenally for me over the years. Hard to plug up, durable as anything, and really sucks the water through it. must be the weave style or something...
You already have a gold hog... Can't get anything better than that. It's all you need.
You clearly know how to build but severely over enginered and I would def change some things.
Get rid of the mat in the hopper as it basically either serves no real purpose or it catches nearly all your gold ie the you don't need the rest. Sprayer Is good, but remove the mesh net on the hopper and get a proper grizzly bar as the mest will just get clogged with debries. And the double sluice system won't really do much. Since you're running expanded and miners moss you are with the feed rate on that catching everything already. Or just use the goldhog.
I explain my thought process more in other videos, but what I am looking to achieve is a machine with good fine gold recovery that is compact enough to carry around in my boat, and yet wide enough to keep up shoveling my local sand and gravel. I need a box at least 20" wide to keep up in some areas, and I don't want to hassle of using an extention. The moss in the hopper catches a significant amount of gold, while also helping to smooth out the surge of black sands from each shovel and has proven useful. While a grizzly does improve throughput in some situations, the fine screened material running over the recovery area is better for find gold. My area has no large nuggets. I like the build quality of the gold hog, but it's a night and day experience using it to recover my local gold. Different designs for different areas I guess.
What about a three stage ?/
I did a 4 stage a few years back that was pretty cool. :)
Beach mining would be very interesting with stuff like that!
@@UtmostOutdoors What about a single stage thats 8 feet long? ...hinge in the middle or something. So it can be folded up.
@babbalonian2 look up Ray Rusaw on RUclips, he does a long Tom style beach dredge. Seems to work well. I just think that width is the ultimate determinant or feed rate, and with everything running low and slow for beach gold, in a wide sluice I have never needed more than 4 feet for excellent recovery.
Why are you concerned about the total weight ?
It's not like you gonna hike it on your back a kilometre or two.
Oh buddy... on this you could not be more wrong! Weight is EVERYTHING out there. I do hike things much heavier than this 2+km into the bush every year, so the lighter the better. The number one way to find good gold, is to shovel gravel with good gold in it, and sometimes that involves a fair bit of a walk. Even in Alberta with the jet boat, there are places that are several hundred feet into a backwater from the boat, and every little bit of effort required to hike in matter out there. That's my personal philosophy on it anyways... Light and easy to move makes alllll the difference! :)
@@UtmostOutdoors Ahh - I only based my thought on what I have seen you do and that you said it was designed for Alberta - I presumed you drive your boat and simply set it up on the bank , maybe 100 metres up at the maximum like you just said.
20 kg or 15 kg for 100 metres is the same to me , you still gotta come back for the pump and other peripheries - OR do you take all lot in one trip ?