This is an important issue affecting the fabric of American culture. We are becoming a nation of independents, with fewer friendships and connections. It's fueling much of the distrust and polarization in society.
This is such an important topic ... I really wish there were a way to see this film other than hosting a screening. I've reached out to several organizations about hosting, but no bites so far.
Apparently it’s still trying to get off the ground. “NYC friends! JOIN OR DIE-a film about why you should join a club...and why the fate of America depends on it-is headed to @dctvny's Firehouse Cinema for our theatrical premiere. Q&A with directors Rebecca Davis & @PeteDDavis on July 19, 20, 21. 2024”
@@ghenulo while this comment made me laugh, so I think it was meant as a joke, I just want to clarify that it doesn't matter the activity so long as you aren't doing it alone. "Many hands make light work", and all of that.
Except that the study showed that membership in bowling leagues and clubs was down, which doesn't necessarily mean that the person literally went bowling alone. It is very common for people to go bowling with friends or family members, not as part of a bowling league or organization. So the point about human connection really gets lost because the people not part of bowling leagues were not necessarily bowling alone without any human connection. I would bet that very few of them literally are going bowling alone, but are going with friends, thus this is a created problem that doesn't exist. That said, there are also positives to doing activities alone, but that doesn't apply in this case. Go to a bowling alley and have a look. How many people do you see bowling alone without a group of people or a couple?
I'm sure that social media and cell phones are one of the reasons for this happening. Many times I've seen a group of young people in public places like coffee shops and all of them are using their phones, texting mostly, and not interacting with each other very much. Less people talk on the phone these days even though almost everyone has one with them at all times. I'm in my mid 50's and it's harder than ever to reach my friends to talk to them directly. They would rather text or use Facebook messenger.
that's too easy an answer. I think, tho, social media helps people silo themselves, find like-minded folks. The challenge in the community where you live is how do you work with your neighbors when they don't like what you like, don't look like you, etc. I think those clubs helped people come together in the old days, but also shut women and POC out. We have the chance to reinvent these clubs to include everyone, but it's not without its challenges.
@@jimmoses6617 Some younger people are actually increasing civic engagement. For one, more schools require service learning. For another single & childless people (esp women) are more likely to be civically involved and that describes more younger people.
They are perfectly able to, they just depend on women too much to connect them socially. Especially after they retire, are widowed etc. Women are used to the idea of their lives not being totally about their jobs, men don't know what else to do. It's odd though because it used to be men joined about as many clubs/orgs as women did.
What propaganda! This movie stars some of the very people who locked us in social isolation for 2 years and censored anyone who dared to speak out about it. They continue to double down on centralized authority in real life while in the movies talk about democracy and local autonomy. Ha! I heard the filmmaker speak on Ralph Nadar's Radio Hour podcast and I know he means well, but doesn't he realize who is in his film? Doesn't he see the hypocrisy? Maybe he should've hired some actors. Oh, wait. They're on strike because AI wants to take the place of humans. Maybe the robots and avatars can join a group and live happily ever after.
Sorry, Putman's book was written and his theory was presented long before the lockdown. You are showing a partisanship argument that is part of the problem. This has been happening long before and COVID has nothing to do with that. People began shirking off wanting to be in local organizations looonnnnnng before and it's up to all of us to change that.
I was thinking the same thing about forced social isolation (not to mention the general distrust of each other based on the exaggerated panic and snitch culture the elites induced). If you instituted or went along with such ideas, you shouldn't be in this film.
I read the book Bowling Alone this year and then was thrilled to see a film about this. I'm excited to see this doc!
This is an important issue affecting the fabric of American culture. We are becoming a nation of independents, with fewer friendships and connections. It's fueling much of the distrust and polarization in society.
How can I get ahold of a copy of this? I'd love to host a screening in my city if possible!
This is such an important topic ... I really wish there were a way to see this film other than hosting a screening. I've reached out to several organizations about hosting, but no bites so far.
Keep trying. You will succeed
Where can the documentary be seen? It's not on any of the streaming services or RUclips, that I can find.
Did you find out? I'm trying to find a way to view it also.
Apparently it’s still trying to get off the ground.
“NYC friends! JOIN OR DIE-a film about why you should join a club...and why the fate of America depends on it-is headed to @dctvny's Firehouse Cinema for our theatrical premiere. Q&A with directors Rebecca Davis & @PeteDDavis on July 19, 20, 21. 2024”
Netflix! Just watched it today 😁
A very important concept - don't bowl alone, go connect with people.
I'd rather not bowl at all.
@@ghenulo while this comment made me laugh, so I think it was meant as a joke, I just want to clarify that it doesn't matter the activity so long as you aren't doing it alone. "Many hands make light work", and all of that.
Except that the study showed that membership in bowling leagues and clubs was down, which doesn't necessarily mean that the person literally went bowling alone. It is very common for people to go bowling with friends or family members, not as part of a bowling league or organization. So the point about human connection really gets lost because the people not part of bowling leagues were not necessarily bowling alone without any human connection. I would bet that very few of them literally are going bowling alone, but are going with friends, thus this is a created problem that doesn't exist. That said, there are also positives to doing activities alone, but that doesn't apply in this case. Go to a bowling alley and have a look. How many people do you see bowling alone without a group of people or a couple?
Looking forward to reading the book and seeing the film
Sounds great, but I hope that the documentary also mentions the reasons *why* our social networks are declining.
Because of "them".
is it out? where can we see it?
I'm sure that social media and cell phones are one of the reasons for this happening. Many times I've seen a group of young people in public places like coffee shops and all of them are using their phones, texting mostly, and not interacting with each other very much. Less people talk on the phone these days even though almost everyone has one with them at all times. I'm in my mid 50's and it's harder than ever to reach my friends to talk to them directly. They would rather text or use Facebook messenger.
that's too easy an answer. I think, tho, social media helps people silo themselves, find like-minded folks. The challenge in the community where you live is how do you work with your neighbors when they don't like what you like, don't look like you, etc. I think those clubs helped people come together in the old days, but also shut women and POC out. We have the chance to reinvent these clubs to include everyone, but it's not without its challenges.
But the decline in social capital happened before the popularization of social medias.
@@mizlandrywhaaaaaaaaah !feminists and commies are always whinning
Not just young people. We are all guilty of this. Let's not blame the children...again.
@@jimmoses6617 Some younger people are actually increasing civic engagement. For one, more schools require service learning. For another single & childless people (esp women) are more likely to be civically involved and that describes more younger people.
Great, but I wish they went with a different title, it sounds like a threat & people are likely to react with "you can't tell me what to do!"
Interesting
All I speak is of creating circles, not squares or pyramid.
How do we fix it
Possibly the reason men die younger. Not as able to get out there, socially.
Well, at least your short life isn't miserable then.
They are perfectly able to, they just depend on women too much to connect them socially. Especially after they retire, are widowed etc. Women are used to the idea of their lives not being totally about their jobs, men don't know what else to do. It's odd though because it used to be men joined about as many clubs/orgs as women did.
lukewarm 🙉
What propaganda! This movie stars some of the very people who locked us in social isolation for 2 years and censored anyone who dared to speak out about it. They continue to double down on centralized authority in real life while in the movies talk about democracy and local autonomy. Ha! I heard the filmmaker speak on Ralph Nadar's Radio Hour podcast and I know he means well, but doesn't he realize who is in his film? Doesn't he see the hypocrisy? Maybe he should've hired some actors. Oh, wait. They're on strike because AI wants to take the place of humans. Maybe the robots and avatars can join a group and live happily ever after.
Sorry, Putman's book was written and his theory was presented long before the lockdown. You are showing a partisanship argument that is part of the problem. This has been happening long before and COVID has nothing to do with that. People began shirking off wanting to be in local organizations looonnnnnng before and it's up to all of us to change that.
You dropped your shiny hat...
I was thinking the same thing about forced social isolation (not to mention the general distrust of each other based on the exaggerated panic and snitch culture the elites induced). If you instituted or went along with such ideas, you shouldn't be in this film.
Well, we know what category you're in, haha!
When I saw Shillary was in the list, I decided to pass.