Jadzia Dax explains hosting a symbiont to another Trill

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  • @Aethgeir
    @Aethgeir 4 года назад +320

    I really wish the Klingon chef had become a regular guest character like Garak. So much potential, especially given some of the later developments in this show.

    • @Anonie324
      @Anonie324 4 года назад +11

      Sadly, that was a football player, and athletes are not well known for their acting range hahaha

    • @michaelmandatorylastname3671
      @michaelmandatorylastname3671 3 года назад +20

      @@Anonie324 While I'd agree that pro-athletes are not often celebrated for their skills as thespians, the Klingon Restaurateur was not actually played by a football player. The actor in question is actually a theater mainstay named Ron Taylor, who is probably best known as either Lisa's Saxophone mentor Bleeding Gums Murphy on "The Simpsons", or as the voice of Audrey II in the original stage production of "Little Shop of Horrors".

    • @takerdust
      @takerdust 2 года назад +3

      @@michaelmandatorylastname3671 the fact that some believe an unexperienced athlete played this character shows that the average joe doesn't understand the level of skill needed to be an actor.

    • @CelticVictory
      @CelticVictory Год назад

      I liked him right away. It's too bad he wasn't used more.

    • @tomaspabon2484
      @tomaspabon2484 Год назад

      ​@@takerdusti mean, therea Bubba Smith, maybe not exactly a classicaly trained thespian bud id argue he was okay

  • @khartog01
    @khartog01 5 лет назад +257

    Proof a Klingon can find honor outside of battle.

    • @hardwirecars
      @hardwirecars 4 года назад +8

      oh yes. you have politisians(how they find honor ill never know) lawyers cooks actors(they claim shakespeare is best in klingon)

    • @RandomAmerican3000
      @RandomAmerican3000 3 года назад +14

      Considering how often they use live food in their meals, Klingon cooking IS battle.

    • @bryanx0317
      @bryanx0317 3 года назад +4

      Eh I'm sure "Klingon Cook" isnt a very high position. They probably go to the less brave, or more tame if you will. NOT trying to offend any real life chefs lol. But we're talking Klingon culture here. Where dieing in battle is the greatest honor. While I'm sure the Klingon cook will jump into battle. I'm sure he's the cook because he's less than stellar in battle. But who knows... they could be a hidden Klingon Steven Segal.

    • @artygunnar
      @artygunnar 3 года назад

      he killed to sing like that

    • @thegrimmretails3777
      @thegrimmretails3777 2 года назад +3

      @@bryanx0317 bravery has nothing to do with profession. I have no doubt this Klingon would jump into battle, same as the farmer in Enterprise.

  • @BulletMan4
    @BulletMan4 5 лет назад +200

    I like how she stated that the symbiote is not the golden ticket. The host must be self aware and be able to recognize their own goals instead of letting the symbiote take control once they are joined.

  • @Shadowkey392
    @Shadowkey392 4 года назад +109

    The idea of a Klingon playing an accordion just makes me laugh. I love it!

    • @ClarinoI
      @ClarinoI 4 года назад +8

      More of a concertina really.

    • @erikthomsen4768
      @erikthomsen4768 4 года назад +13

      Sisko: “All hands battle stations!”
      Sisko: “Chef Klingon, epic music”
      Chef Klingon: “It's the eye of the tiger, it's the thrill of the fight
      Risin' up to the challenge of our rival
      And the last known survivor stalks his prey in the night
      And he's watchin' us all with the eye of the tiger.”

    • @doko239
      @doko239 4 года назад +5

      @@erikthomsen4768 Now I REALLY want to hear a Klingon version of "Eye of the Tiger"

  • @ericmcconnaughey2782
    @ericmcconnaughey2782 3 года назад +128

    This guy has no business competing for joining. "It was my father's greatest wish", "he didn't care what I did, so long as I became joined". That right there is the absolutely _worst_ possible reason to do anything. This guy's father was no doubt the stereotypical domineering type. The sister goes her own way and gets cut off. The son then gets guilted into fulfilling dear old daddy's unfulfilled ambitions.

    • @greatlakes6916
      @greatlakes6916 3 года назад +13

      It's like the kids who are pushed into being a doctor/lawyer or whatever for status.

    • @MIGBMWLOVER
      @MIGBMWLOVER 2 года назад +8

      @@greatlakes6916 been there unfortunately

    • @The1980Philip
      @The1980Philip 2 года назад +7

      Correct, so he'd probably get overwhelmed by the symbiont on account of his weak personality.

    • @ScarletBrimstone
      @ScarletBrimstone 2 года назад +4

      @@MIGBMWLOVER I have personal experience with it, too. Nothing but demands, guilt trips, and manipulation from my father. He cut me off for getting married.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 2 года назад +1

      @@greatlakes6916
      Yes and no, it’s not so simple.
      Parents do need to guide their children to a career that will both make them happy and earn them a living. Choosing a Korea that makes you happy but doesn’t earn you with living in the end is going to make you miserable. And possibly dependent on your parents.
      But if it feels wrong, then don’t do it because you’re going to have to live with it. Bad advice from your parents is just like bad advice from anyone else.

  • @terrenced7742
    @terrenced7742 2 года назад +134

    I love the Klingon chef because he proves that Klingon civilization is just as complex and different as everyone else's. An entire society of warriors is completely unrealistic and wouldn't be sustainable. There have to be Klingon chefs, just like there have to be Ferengi and Romulan farmers. Cardassian singers, and Orion philosophers. Come on, give me some more fleshed out species and the various cultures within each!

    • @overlordp.3758
      @overlordp.3758 2 года назад

      Supposedly a fat klingon is a disgrace

    • @NucularRobit
      @NucularRobit 2 года назад +8

      It's similar to feudal societies. We hear a lot about knights, samurai, and the like but those societies definitely had non-warriors by necessity.

    • @NucularRobit
      @NucularRobit 2 года назад +7

      There are episodes that depict Klingon scientists and lawyers. Probably others I'm forgetting.

    • @craithteemeghan5311
      @craithteemeghan5311 2 года назад +3

      @@NucularRobit There was an episode with the Ferengi scientist on TNG. The Klingon scientist G'dath who also worked as a High School teacher whose family were farmers! Chancellor Gorkon and his daughter Azetbur were not members of the warrior caste. Azetbur refused to allow the warriors to perform the Klingon warrior death ritual on her father!

    • @MarijnvdSterre
      @MarijnvdSterre 2 года назад +1

      Certainly true and I also love more fleshed out civilizations. However concerning the Klingons, wasn't that kind of their problem? The society used to be far richer and diverse, but is sort of at risk of dying out, because of the extreme focus on warriors?

  • @beaut-ful-d-saster
    @beaut-ful-d-saster 4 года назад +53

    That Klingon has such a beautiful voice.

  • @javierpatag3609
    @javierpatag3609 4 года назад +119

    A massive, jovial Klingon singing and playing an accordion?
    Now I've seen everything.

    • @ScornedOne1080
      @ScornedOne1080 3 года назад +6

      Klingons . . . the only race that seems to keep the tradition of Bards alive. XD

    • @Sandshark17
      @Sandshark17 2 года назад

      Gotta hand it to her, if i could customize my own holosuite and it costs 1 Bar of lithium I would do crazy shit too... If this is her rock bottom I'm just bumping against the sides man

    • @Sandshark17
      @Sandshark17 2 года назад +1

      @IdleBigots My first reply was a joke, but i must agree that your comment is not mere speculation, but Klingon music has been referenced enough in the books to say that like most music some humans love it and some humans hate it, and Klingon Opera has been featured in Star Trek: Picard being the only music on one ship that is inhabited by a few races and it being the only music on board, making it cannonally accurate in the on-screen setting as well.

  • @dwaugh2215
    @dwaugh2215 3 года назад +46

    Imagine if Worf met the chef, those two could have gotten along and would have been able to attend to their wedding.

    • @HBHaga
      @HBHaga 3 года назад +12

      He would have catered their wedding.

    • @viagra5207
      @viagra5207 Год назад

      lol no way they would hate eachother

    • @HariSeldon913
      @HariSeldon913 Год назад

      @@viagra5207 Only because Jadzia would have been lending Worf's operas to the chef behind Worf's back.

  • @thegrimmretails3777
    @thegrimmretails3777 2 года назад +37

    Oddly enough, the Dax symbiote does just that to poor Ezri, who only joined because she was the only Trill on board and she couldn't let Dax die.

    • @garthst.claire3459
      @garthst.claire3459 2 года назад +20

      Nah, Ezri kept plenty of her own personality and goals. She, for example did not adopt Jadzia's (or rather Curzon's) rose-tinted idea of Klingon cultures.

    • @thegrimmretails3777
      @thegrimmretails3777 2 года назад +5

      @@garthst.claire3459 No but she did get caught up in the worst of the Dominion War, something I very much doubt Ezri would have chosen on her own.

    • @christopherdean1326
      @christopherdean1326 2 года назад +11

      @@thegrimmretails3777 But she was already in Starfleet, so she would have been in the war anyway, with or without the symbiont.

    • @neilkurzman4907
      @neilkurzman4907 2 года назад +6

      She certainly struggled at first. But eventually she succeeded. A great character arc.

    • @Dularr
      @Dularr Год назад +2

      It really contrast well with this episode. The Trill cultural dogma that joining is a difficult, tricky process. Where it was later revealed it really wasn't that difficult.

  • @pamelamays4186
    @pamelamays4186 2 года назад +9

    The accordion is the instrument of warriors!
    🪗⚔️

  • @kuribo1
    @kuribo1 8 лет назад +89

    I like that klingon...

  • @athenenoctua75
    @athenenoctua75 2 года назад +10

    This is actually good adwise for people who want a partner too. if you have not enough self awareness you will loose yor self completely in a partnership.

    • @EmptyMan000
      @EmptyMan000 Год назад

      Do make sure your partner doesn't do as much then. People often whine about finding the right partner while being demanding and toxic themselves.

  • @Sam-bc6sr
    @Sam-bc6sr 5 лет назад +72

    Interesting how Jadzia said that you needed to be strong or the symbiont would overwhelm your personality. With Odan on TNG it certainly seemed like the symbiont pretty much WAS the personality and the host just an empty vessel. Was Odan an unusually strong symbiont, or were the hosts just badly chosen and not strong enough?

    • @PrinceSilvermane
      @PrinceSilvermane 5 лет назад +51

      On TNG they hadn't fully developed how the Trills worked. But in later DS9 it was revealed that almost any Trill can actually accept a symbiote, they just made the barrier of entry so high so that the Symbiotes were valuable and whoever received one was sure to actually improve its quality of life. As opposed to them being traded like a commodity.

    • @Sam-bc6sr
      @Sam-bc6sr 5 лет назад +13

      Odan was also bigger than Dax and more colorful. Maybe there are two species of symbionts - one that completely takes over the host and one that more blends itself with the host personality.

    • @sygos
      @sygos 5 лет назад +28

      @@Sam-bc6sr I think by the time they were writing for DS9, growing a humanoid trill into adulthood and completely eradicating its personality and replacing it with the symbiant's personality is inhumane. So they rewrote how the joining and how the two beings function together.

    • @Nulono
      @Nulono 4 года назад +5

      Beta Canon material says that Odan was a Trill who was infected with the Klingon Augment Virus. I guess they just use that excuse for every plothole, huh?

    • @lucasbachmann
      @lucasbachmann 3 года назад +3

      You are just going to have to retcon TNG enough to make Trills work. But I think strong symbiont personality works fine. There's a couple of TNG episodes that are impossible considering the rest of canon. Specifically TNG "Unnatural Selection". But the loss of 1 or 2 episodes is nothing compared to entire series that doesn't fit (ENT or Discovery cough cough)

  • @Chocobear555
    @Chocobear555 6 лет назад +67

    I don't know about anyone else. But I wish we had found out what happened to Arjin. Did he become a host? Or did he realize that his father's dream was not his own? I almost wish *he* had been selected to become Dax's host after Jadzia's death. That would have been interesting. To me, anyway. Kind of a, "full circle," thing, in a way.

    • @Claudanne2
      @Claudanne2 5 лет назад +12

      As much as I love this idea and as much as I hated Ezri, Sisko was right. DS9 did need a counselor, not a pilot.

    • @ericmcconnaughey2782
      @ericmcconnaughey2782 2 года назад

      Best thing for Arjin, after hanging out with Jadzia, would have been for him to pull his head out of his ass and realise he doesn't owe his domineering father anything. At which point he pulls himself out of the symbiote program.

  • @hmrhuang
    @hmrhuang Год назад +8

    i'm surprised this candidate made it as far as he did in the selection process for prospective hosts...

  • @mulberryman1305
    @mulberryman1305 5 лет назад +19

    I always wondered what would happen if Jadzia some how found her way to Earth in the StarGate universe
    more specifically how would they react to her connection with the dax symbiont

    • @Avalanche041
      @Avalanche041 5 лет назад +10

      They would probably be reluctant to trust her at first but since her symbiont is not a Gould, they would probably treat her like any other alien they have encountered. Things would be going just fine then Colonel Maybourne would show up wanting to conduct experiments on her, they would then find a way to send her back to the Star Trek universe.

    • @mulberryman1305
      @mulberryman1305 5 лет назад +6

      @@Avalanche041 you're probably right, that sounds exactly how that episode would play out

    • @seand.g423
      @seand.g423 4 года назад

      Even better, during the events of _"In the line of duty"_

    • @Zenikk
      @Zenikk 4 года назад +2

      i would think it would be similar to how they view the tok'ra, worried at first but after seeing the symbiotic relationship between the two and the volunteering of being hosts would sway them greatly on making the trill a ally (yes this is a year late to reply to you XD but wanted to put my two sense)

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 3 года назад +5

      She would be telling someone at least twice a day that she is not a Goua'uld or a Tok'ra.

  • @mortman200
    @mortman200 3 года назад +18

    A klingon chef probably hunts his own food.

  • @pferreira1983
    @pferreira1983 5 лет назад +11

    Geoffrey Blake is great in this. Sometimes it's the guest stars who make the episodes and this is one such time.

  • @lizzychrome7630
    @lizzychrome7630 7 лет назад +25

    This was interesting, but then it just stopped mid-conversation. Why? 8(

  • @xanderfulton3186
    @xanderfulton3186 8 месяцев назад +1

    “The symbiont’s influence will overwhelm your personality”
    And that right there is our explanation of why Odan’s hosts seemed more like extensions of the symbiont than we are used to with Dax

  • @mlp_firewind8129
    @mlp_firewind8129 2 года назад +5

    I love the trill as a concept. However, I would like to have a better understanding of what the symbionts are like as individuals. Like if you took Dax out of Ezri, what would it think of itself. Does the symbiont have its ow sense of self from its time outside a host or is it purely a gestalt being made up of all its hosts. Either way, very fun concept.

    • @HariSeldon913
      @HariSeldon913 Год назад

      It would have been cool to throw in a flashback of Ezri prior to joining.

  • @Claudanne2
    @Claudanne2 5 лет назад +12

    1:30 I wonder how many times he and Worf came toe to toe.

  • @carmenlynn5441
    @carmenlynn5441 3 года назад +3

    That has to the the funniest Klingon I've ever seen

  • @Turboy65
    @Turboy65 5 лет назад +8

    What is that THING sitting on the console at the start of this clip?

    • @mulberryman1305
      @mulberryman1305 5 лет назад +6

      a vole
      kind of the interstellar equivalent of rats in the Star Trek universe

    • @paulwagner688
      @paulwagner688 4 года назад +1

      A vole is an earth mammal

    • @Marcel_Germann
      @Marcel_Germann 4 года назад +3

      @@paulwagner688 Cardassian vole. To show that they're from Cardassia the producers of the show gave them the characteristic "spoon" on their forehead...
      vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/6/6b/Vole_Model.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/340?cb=20080314005756&path-prefix=en

  • @Sandshark17
    @Sandshark17 2 года назад +1

    Something tells me he's going to be one of the 9/10 trill...

  • @algerae1984
    @algerae1984 7 лет назад +17

    make her hair red and I could totally see her as Jean Grey

  • @takerdust
    @takerdust 2 года назад +1

    Jadzia went from having him fly through a wormhole to eating live worms.

  • @jimhults4916
    @jimhults4916 4 месяца назад +1

    1:03 What a Bummer!!

  • @HeavyJ713
    @HeavyJ713 5 лет назад +5

    Isn't that Mccluski from Young Guns?

  • @aigomar
    @aigomar 7 лет назад +8

    Do you, by any chance, happen to have a scene from the "Deep Space Nine" episode "Tears of the Prophets" where Gul Dukat not only kills Jadzia Dax, but also releases a Pah-wraith into the wormhole before Dukat kneels next to Jadzia's body and says: "I never intended you any harm."? If you do, could you please upload that scene for me so that I can watch it over and over again? Please let me know as soon as possible. Thank you.

  • @Krocxigor
    @Krocxigor 8 месяцев назад

    People commenting "Prove that Klingon's are not all warriors" and the like keep in mind that in our own history a pure warrior job was rare. The Greeks for example outside Sparta did typically normal jobs then if someone invaded or the leaders decided to invade those people would pick up their weapons and armor and go to war. The Norse very much the same until someone said "Let's go a Viking". Samurai typically ran their lands until someone offered them money for heads. Outside Sparta being a warrior as a job is mostly a recent development.....you know last say four or five hundred years as standing armies are very very expensive so rare historically......keep in mind guards are not soldiers.
    So that cook is likely a warrior (part time like the guard or reserve here in the U.S.) same with any other "non-warrior" we see elsewhere in trek. It is likely that in lore that guy would mess the average federation security officer up, I say in lore because Klingons in the shows are jokes when it comes to fighting Starfleet security.

  • @ZephyrBW
    @ZephyrBW 5 месяцев назад

    Nobody can give you a dream have to find your own.

  • @johnwang9914
    @johnwang9914 4 года назад +4

    Note how on "Star Trek Enterprise", they would spend some time in a decontamination chamber when they returned but on "Deep Space Nine", they go to a Klingon restaurant.

    • @GhostBear3067
      @GhostBear3067 3 года назад +3

      The differences a couple centuries getting used to space travel can make.

    • @johnwang9914
      @johnwang9914 3 года назад +1

      @@GhostBear3067 Just as we got used to rapid global travel only to be subjected to the rapid spread of a pandemic. Getting used to something doesn't always equate with a reasonable assessment of risk.

    • @lucasbachmann
      @lucasbachmann 3 года назад +1

      Enterprise was being purely exploitive for those decon scenes.

    • @matthewjones2095
      @matthewjones2095 3 года назад

      @@lucasbachmann exactly star gate did the medical check ups after coming from an alien world better

  • @rogerkreil3314
    @rogerkreil3314 7 лет назад +28

    Would you get romantically involved with a trill?

    • @xxlCortez
      @xxlCortez 7 лет назад +20

      Sure, it's fun to have a threesome.

    • @vladskiobi
      @vladskiobi 7 лет назад +17

      Roger Kreil I'd gladly fuck Jadzia or Ezri even if it meant I was also fucking a slug.

    • @LordSquirrelShow
      @LordSquirrelShow 6 лет назад +15

      Roger Kreil considering that the two most prominent on the show were beyond gorgeous, yes. Multiple times.

    • @Chocobear555
      @Chocobear555 6 лет назад +5

      I don't know if I would, if they existed. I think I would be a little intimidated.

    • @demarcusfaulkner7411
      @demarcusfaulkner7411 6 лет назад +1

      oh yeah I would

  • @andrzejkowalski6836
    @andrzejkowalski6836 3 месяца назад

    PoV:
    - be Polish
    - have mother called Jadwiga
    - learn that somewhere someone some day recently invented an alien name "Jadzia" pronounced dʒædˈziːə
    - know that "Jadzia" pronounced ˈjad͡ʑa has been a diminutive of Jadwiga (originating from Hedwig) for centuries
    - experience earache every time it is pronounced in that newly invented way
    - get drunk
    - read in Polish Wikipedia that "...Jadzia is a representative of a humanoidal Trill race..."
    - start questioning your own true nature

  • @johnw2026
    @johnw2026 2 года назад +1

    I didn't know TD Jakes was Klingon, or that he played the accordion... 😁

  • @steelwings2037
    @steelwings2037 2 года назад

    My favourite Klingon.

  • @woodscraftlindsay789
    @woodscraftlindsay789 3 года назад

    Cortana : you know it's not going to be me john you know this it wont be me

  • @mrouncervideos2905
    @mrouncervideos2905 9 месяцев назад

    This show is way better than any movie,show, or series in 2023❤ the writing on d.s.9 was just muah❤

  • @mrizwan7566
    @mrizwan7566 3 года назад

    There should be some scenes between klingon chef, worf and kor.

  • @collinsdarkwa281
    @collinsdarkwa281 6 лет назад +2

    I remember this part

  • @rodrigogoncalves6165
    @rodrigogoncalves6165 3 года назад

    Goauld on Star Trek?

  • @theLeomega
    @theLeomega 4 месяца назад

    DS9 has more worldbuilding than the other series of star trek combined.

  • @demarcusfaulkner7411
    @demarcusfaulkner7411 6 лет назад +6

    That is one fat Klingon.

    • @amm019
      @amm019 5 лет назад +3

      I know, right? That's the fattest Klingon I've ever saw!

    • @Mxyzptlksac
      @Mxyzptlksac 5 лет назад +11

      Never trust a skinny chef.

  • @confusedwhale
    @confusedwhale 6 лет назад +11

    I don't really see a Klingon being fat.
    That seems like a way to bring dishonor to their family... as they wouldn't be able to fight well.

    • @danduryea
      @danduryea 5 лет назад +13

      +confusedwhale - Kahless was fat, the prosecutor who tried Worf for shooting too quickly was fat, the captain who banged his head against Data's was fat

    • @volrag
      @volrag 5 лет назад +8

      Depends how you justify it, he is a chef and a good chef does plenty of taste-tests. Or he could just not give a damn.

    • @user-yn2ru2ep1j
      @user-yn2ru2ep1j 5 лет назад +9

      Not all Klingons are warriors. He’s a chef and a singer. I’m sure all Klingon singers and scientists and shoemakers have combat training, but they’re not all necessarily about the warrior lifestyle.

    • @OrionSlaveGirlUWU
      @OrionSlaveGirlUWU 5 лет назад +12

      Never trust a thin chef.

    • @OrionSlaveGirlUWU
      @OrionSlaveGirlUWU 5 лет назад +3

      @@danduryea that klingon that headbutted Data was my favorite

  •  6 месяцев назад

    LET A SLUG POSSES YOUR MIND AND BODY? SLAVERY

  • @karenk2409
    @karenk2409 2 года назад

    This is talking to a child about a parent.

  • @captainunload
    @captainunload 4 месяца назад

    Always thought Worf was kind of gay for being with Dax. She's got man memories and a bug in her. Gross.

  • @socalbeeguy8041
    @socalbeeguy8041 6 лет назад +1

    OMG! I've always noticed that Star Trek has been used for social engineering purposes, but fuckin TRILL? As if to acclimate us to Vrill!? Holy fuckin shit.

  • @doteaters
    @doteaters 2 года назад

    Such an awkward conversation between the two Trills. Sure, the words are there, but no portent from them, no emotional ramifications from these words that should be important to two Trills. They are strangers to each other, sure. But they are discussing the most important facet of Trill existence, and they sound like they're discussing the weather all the way through. If I could use one word to describe the entirety of DS9, it would be "awkward".

  • @r0bw00d
    @r0bw00d 5 лет назад +1

    0:46 The moment "Star Trek" lost all of it's credibility.
    Come get me, boys. (o:Þ

    • @nicrosilmind
      @nicrosilmind 4 года назад +15

      r0bw00d: Gee wiz, I really like how these Klingons are all warriors. Boy howdy, I sure do love homogenous races with no variety among individuals.
      DS9 Writers: You know, Star Trek has really overdone the whole “planet of hats” trope. We should have a few characters that don’t completely conform to their species’ stereotypes to make our fictional universe more immersive and engaging.
      r0bw00d: Aw crap, Star Trek has lost all credibility. Gosh darn, it’s the opposite of credible. Now it’s incredible!