Comparing the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary with the Baker Illustrated Study Bible
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2024
- The folks at Baker were nice enough to send me a copy of their Illustrated Bible Background Commentary so I wanted to let viewers know what you will find in it and how it compares to the currently-out-of-print Baker Illustrated Study Bible (which is available digitally at: www.amazon.com/CSB-Baker-Illu... ).
The Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary is available at: www.amazon.com/Baker-Illustra...
Note, this is NOT the Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary. That is also out of print (though also available digitally at: www.amazon.com/Baker-Illustra... )
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I would love it if this Bible was back in print. It's awesome they're listening.
I would buy it today if I could
Oh my goodness, I am one of those people who reached out to Baker!! I’m soooo hoping they will print this Bible again 🙏. I have purchased a few of their other resources like the commentary, but I think the study Bible would be the best! I’m keeping my fingers crossed that they reprint it 🤞
Thankyou for this video!!! 🥰
I’m surprised they didn’t send you the Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary. It is different than the one you are reviewing here. The notes are almost similar in that one because I used to have the Study Bible but gave it away after comparing the content in both because it was basically the same. The Commentary I am referring to is edited by Gary Burke and Andrew Hill. Published in 2012. But I really enjoy your reviews and I’m going to buy the commentary you referred to earlier. Thanks for what you do here. I’m learning and it’s fun. Blessings to you. Lastly ignore the people that are critical of your action figures. They don’t know who you are helping. It’s people like me who didn’t go to seminary but love to study God’s word. Keep doing what you do.
That commentary is out of print as well, unfortunately (but also available digitally).
Thanks for watching and commenting though!
@@DiscipleDojo I have all 3 in print volumes and while there is overlap especially with the illustrated commentary that is not background oriented, but I love them all. Baker has a habit of letting things go out of print too quickly.
I have this Commentary hard copy, also. 👍🏻
Agreed! ..the Notes of the Study Bible are basically the same as the Illustrated Bible Commentary, the *Background Commentary* here discussed its another diferent resource.
There's ANOTHER option. Buy a study Bible like the CSB Study Bible, then get the Holman Illustrated Bible Handbook. It is basically the same information as in the Holman Illustrated Bible, just without the Bible text. So, you can follow along with your other Bible and the have this handbook with all the same pictures and articles as the Holman Illustrated Bible. So, much smaller book and only between $20-$30.
I managed to get a copy shipped from the USA to UK. The study is awesome and so glad to have it.
Great review! I've got both of them on my wish-list.
Praying they go through with the re-printing! 🙏
*I was one of the people* here mentioned that said that the Notes of the Study Bible where exactly the same as the *Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary* …and they are!! Dojo confused it with the Baker Background Commentary here discussed….and of course thats another ball game 🤖. But obviously this review was welcomed and helpful as always!!😊😊
Thank you. This answers the question I had
I ordered two of them on Amazon ($50 each). One for myself and one for my father in law who is a pastor. Thanks for the recommendation! I look forward to making use of it
@@jkbugout Excellent, youll enjoy it. For background, Dojo recommended the Archaeological and the Cultural backgrounds study bibles, i got them and he was on point, they are excellent, but if you just want a commentary and not a SB, seems that the best one for New testament is the IVP NT Background commentary *2nd edition* , also got it and its worth it.
That’s good to hear because I have the Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary- so I don’t need to buy the Baker Illustrated Study Bible. I have got a few other study bible like the NIV and the NEB and the life application.
I am still trying to find a copy, but have sent emails requesting making it available again. It's funny, I have MANY study Bibles...and I happily delve deeply with them and myriad other sources, but finding COMPATIBLE theological perspective that this one appears to provide is what I'm lacking. I'll continue to search...and use the resources I currently have to the best of my ability. LOVE the content of all of these videos and very much appreciate your hard work!!!
Yeah. I hope they bring the study Bible back in print. It’s way too big to get it on kindle. I tried looking on the kindle sample and it was horrible in comparison because of the smaller screen size. But that other book looks really good too. But now that one is selling out too and being priced higher than normal 😫
New subscriber. I have been looking at videos for Bible study since I want to study more this year. RUclips recommended your review on the Baker Illustrated Study Bible a couple of weeks ago and I’ve been reviewing your videos ever since. Today I received a reasonably priced used leather edition of the NIV Archaeological Study Bible based on your recommendation. I’m glad I found it and it was definitely priced lower than some were asking and in good shape. No success with the Baker Illustrated Study Bible but I will keep looking. Hopefully, it’s reprinted; I would prefer the hard copy rather than an electronic version.
Thanks for showing the differences 🙂 I guess a similar situation has happened to NIV Faithlife Illustrated Study Bible. It's out of print and I can't find it anywhere.... I personally prefer the NIV translation and 2 column format. That is such a wonderful study Bible with a lot of helpful charts, timelines and illustrations... I wish I could find a copy.
The want and need for this study bible that i never heard of seems really big since ur vid dropped u pretty much revitalized a lost relic. Im glad that their noticing the attention its receiving.
New subscriber…because of your 12/2/23 video, I even contacted the same used bookstore you purchased yours. Since they couldn’t find another copy, I purchased the Kindle version; however, I would absolutely LOVE a physical copy, so I hope Baker can make this happen!!!
This is the information I need! Thanks so much!
That is awesome that they reached out to you! I love your channel. Thank you
This commentary is a great companion piece to the The IVP Bible Background Commentary (two-volume set) and the Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible.
Yes indeed. I put them in the following order in terms of comprehensiveness:
Zondervan Archaeological SB < Cultural Backgrounds SB < Baker Illustrated Background Commentary < IVP Background Commentary 2 vols < Zondervan Illustrated Bible Background Commentary (10 vols)
Thank you for your time in informing 😊
Thank you for this in depth comparison!
I watched this in the wee morning hours. Love the kudos to the Baker Bible. I haven’t taken time to watch any teaching videos but that’s on my list. I appreciate your ability to get to the point. I’m glad for the info on Baked Study Bible.
Am Blessed I got my The Study Bible before it got out of print. I will buy the commentary. Thank you for you're review
Great video! Thanks for all you do!
Thank You so much for the follow-up. Can't wait for Baker to inform you it's back in print and you notify us.
Very helpful. Thx!🙏🏻
I am new to your channel and just have to say that I really appreciate your thoughtful, in-depth reviews. Some Bible reviews focus on the person's own belief, tradition, and personal agreement... which is totally fair! But I look for a more objective, multi-layered perspective and your videos are SO helpful as I look for my next study Bible. Thank you so much. Definitely subscribing!
I have the Baker Study Bible, and I agree, it is very good.
I presume it is out of print because it was paired with the 2017 CSB text. Obviously they can't now simply reprint the old versions, but given the amount of interest in their product surely they could relatively easily rework the Study Bible notes to accommodate the 2020 CSB text?
That said, the 2020 CSB revision came out without much publicity, almost as if Holman was trying to get it out "under the radar". Is Holman likely to further revise the 2020 text soon? If so, I could see why Baker might hold off on another "shared" publication and rather focus on a pure commentary over which they have sole control.
The latest from Baker is that they have no intention of reprinting the Baker Study Bible. The one currently on eBay they want over $1000 Australian. So fingers crossed one shows up at the op shop.
That’s disappointing. Thanks for the update.
@@kris.1095 I have collected a few others that I recommend - Life Application Study Bible, HSCB Study Bible, the Archeological Study Bible and the ESV.
Thanks, JM. Yes, I have the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary but haven't used it extensively at this point. I have the two volume background commentary from IVP, and have gone to it more frequently. Looking at the copyright page in the Baker Illustrated Study Bible, they show the various resources used for the information in the Bible, but the Baker Background Commentary is not one of them.
Please let us know when they start printing these again. Ppl are charging up to $400 for the Baker Illustrated Bible on eBay.
Now it's $980
Thank you for the review
Great review I always wondered what the Background commentary was - it can be confusing but you cleared it up. I have looked everywhere for the Baker Illustrated Study Bible but have had not being able to locate a copy anywhere - not even second hand on ebay. Would love it if they did re-publish as I would buy it straight away.
That would be so cool if they reprint it! Also cool that they reached out to you to kinda spread the word about a possible reprint. Love it!
I got the study bible! Love it! Thanks for the recommendation!
I just subscribed and enabled notifications. Thank you. Newer listener and first listened to the baker illustrated Bible review. Thanks for the work. I would love love love a Bible you give away. Thanks
Great review!
Thank you for the comparison & review! My wishes, also, are that the Baker Illustrated SB & the Archaeological SB by Zondervan are reprinted. I like them on my iPad but there’s just something about having pages to turn…
Ever since I watched your review, I have tried to find it. I noticed the Bakers illustrated bible background commentary a couple days ago. I almost bought it! I really want the study bible, sure hope they consider reprinting it😊
Yes! I have been trying to find this Bible too after your review. I would love to purchase one if it is reprinted. Thank you so much and God bless your ministry.
Thanks to your review, I did just buy the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary, so that should help. And invested a staggering (for me) amount in a used Zondervsn Archaeological Study Bible based on the review and comments here...but I am grateful for the solid, informative reviews and am DELIGHTED with it. May God continue to bless you and your efforts to serve Him and His People!
I've been lurking a long time. You have a good channel man. I have seen where others apparently get tired of reviewing Bibles and move on to other things; sometimes that does improve the channel, but often it does not. I think it's like any other thing in life. If I came for hotdogs and you start serving pizza......well maybe it's better, but maybe I just want the hotdogs I came for. You do a good job here so I'm jumping on board.
I do imagine it gets frustrating for you as a Weslyan-Arminian having to review all these Reformed-leaning resources, since that's where the vast majority of Biblical resource material comes from (not surprisingly haha).
All joking aside, I recall your review of the Wesley Study Bible and thought it was a good honest review from you, even though it comes out of your tradition. That kind of honesty is a big deal. I own a copy of that study Bible and felt the exact same way you did. It's a disappointing study Bible.
I have located a few resources out there that do a better job representing the Weslyan-Arminian tradition. They just aren't study Bibles. The book "Classical Arminianism" by Forlines is a decent resource. But it is actually quite difficult to find resources that represent Arminianism very well. As a Calvinist, it would benefit me to be aware of more good resources in this vein.
It wouldn't bother me if you had a particular segment of your videos committed to just that issue. You are a fair guy and I really don't think you would be alienating anyone if you made a point of highlighting resources that do a good job representing your tradition. Reformed folks like myself don't mind doing it.
Frankly, after so many decades, I just don't ever run across anything new that challenges my Reformed Baptist position. So I have mostly interacted with Westminster Presbyterianism and the current iteration of theonomic postmillennialism. But all that is on "my" side of the house. I certainly welcome any fresh (or old, but new to me) challenges to my own understanding of scripture.
I also tried to find the Baker Study Bible after your presentation and found it was out of print. Thank you so much for the information. Based on your presentation, I did buy the Evangelical Study Bible which I am able to learn much. I hope Baker brings back the Baker Study Bible. I will buy one .
Really glad I saw this video because I borrowed the Illustrated Bible Commentary from my library and love it! …but found out it’s out of print and can’t find it anywhere 😭 so I’m trying to see if the Illustrated Bible Background Commentary is worth snagging. Think I’ll grab that one and just pray I find a used copy of the original commentary one of these days lol never heard of the study Bible but that’s on my list now too 😆
Thanks for the review! 🙌🏽
Crazy! I was looking for the old version and saw the new one and was wondering what the difference was d as and now I see this video.
I picked up a hardback copy of the Baker Illustrated Study Bible several years ago and was similarly impressed by the helpful and balanced notes. So it does not surprise me that your recent review got so many views, although remember your inviting caption helped ("How did I miss this?") It really is a fine study Bible, so I don't understand why Baker is not keeping it in print. As you point out, both resources are still available for Kindle. (I also was able to buy a hardback edition of the Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary back in 2012, and more recently the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary for Kindle. I like all the Baker Bible resources and have many.
I've had the csb bakers illustrated bible for a year and love it
Thank you.
Excellent!!!
It would be so great if they reprint! Fingers crossed 🤞 I would definitely buy.
Can get it within the Olive tree study app in the meantime. Works well
As someone who reached out to Baker and inquired about this. This is potentially awesome news!
I bought the digital version around Christmas and it’s a great study bible.
I want one just from DD’s review! I’ve been on the hunt for one so I hope the Baker people reprint!
Baker resources are excellent. I bought their Encountering the OT and NT textbooks used for around $10 each.
I am very curious about your oppinion on Central and Eastern European Bible Commentary which you briefly flashed on this video, I've got that one print myself too (I wish it would have ribbon).
I’m one of those and couldn’t find it. However, I did find one that was similar that I like very much: The Holman CSB Study Bible (not the Everyday Study Bible). It has red letter, double columns with references in the middle, a running commentary of every verse in the notes, color photos, charts, timelines, book introductions, photos of archeology finds. I would highly recommend a review on this one. It checked off all the things I ever wanted. It is now my “Working Bible” and I think you would like it, too.
I checked eBay and the Baker Illustrated Study Bible is listed for $499 & up. I guess the sellers saw your video too 😂
This is great news, also contacted them and hope Baker Publishing decides to reprint the CSB Illustrated Study Bible in Hardback and leather editions because it would be a true bestseller based on the interest its generated at 140K plus views! Ended up buying the digital version for reference but there is nothing like turning real Bible pages and having it in your hands or lap for those of us who enjoy God’s word in person😊Can’t wait for Disciple Dojo to make that announcement and share the pre-order link❤
Yeah, the best way to make it happen is for people to keep contacting them and letting them know they want one.
@@DiscipleDojoIs there an email address to reach out to Baker Books?
I was able to snatch one off of eBay when your video first came out.
The ebook version of the Baker Illustrated Study Bible has the content but it is often hard to find. Different types of study tools are in different sections. Really meet the print version for efficiency and effectiveness.
It’s the same as the Baker illustrated commentary. I checked the contributors with what you listed. This one is also out of print, but slightly easier to find.
I want both 😊
I hope I'll find one.
This is amazing, I love this type of video also. I love physical copies because they are very useful for a couple reasons, one being that if power goes out you still have your Holy Scriptures there, two others can see that you are reading your Holy Scriptures and it can be used as a witnessing tool.
Hey JM, I have a CSB Everyday Study Bible and I grabbed the Holman Illustrated Bible Commentary and noticed that it was using the same exact notes in both. Now, I haven’t done a full comparison. I was wondering if you could check them out and do a comparison video on it.
I really hope they start re printing that bible. I can't find it anywhere. I even mistakenly bouth a digital copy thinking it was a hard copy. I asked for my money back lol
Have you seen the INSANE prices it selling for on eBay of today 2/23/24?
One currently bidding over 800.00, another reached over 500.00 still climbing. One was a straight up buy it now for 650.00 😮
This Bible I get a good one, but NOWAY that book worth those kinda prices.
I did write Baker to see if they plan to rerelease it. No word back from them yet. But I hope they do.
I watched that video, then attempted to find the CSB Baker Illustrated Study Bible and could not find it anywhere… except eBay for $800+. Yes, count me in… I will purchase one of those Bibles if they put it back in print.
Definitely reach out to Baker via their website and let them know! :-)
REPRINT, BAKER, REPRINT!!!! PUHLEEZ!!!!⭐🌹⭐
Great video, could you review the CSB Rainbow Study Bible by Holman?
Thinking that I would have been wiser to have gotten a used Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary instead of the new BACKGROUND...but I didn't realize there was basically a companion commentary to the Baker Illustrated Study Bible and that BOTH of them are out of print. Naturally.... The BACKGROUND Commentary is fine, but rather superfluous with the other background commentaries and study Bibles I already have.
Most of the resources I currently have have, while excellent, ended up being rather theologically grouped in not always helpful (for me) perspectives...which led to me (and a zillion others) hunting for the elusive Baker Illustrated Study Bible from your now famous review.
QUESTION: Does, in your opinion, the out of print Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary provide sufficient advantage to warrant purchase (unfair and probably unanswerable question)? I'm willing to sacrifice in other areas for it, as long as it is helpful. Apologies for the question, but I'm hoping my intent comes through, even though I seem unable to articulate as clearly as I wish.
Thank you and may God continue to bless you and His work!!!
I have not used the Commentary, so I really can't say.
@@DiscipleDojo I appreciate your time to reply!
@discipledojo please do a comparison of the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary and the IVP Bible Background Commentary! I'm wondering which one I should get
I wish they printed either one of those in esv or nasb
Have you reviewed the Believer’s Bible Commentary?
I’ve seen a couple different background commentaries, is this the one you’d recommend?
This, the 2 vols from IVP, and the 10 vols from Zondervan are all good. So whichever someone is able to afford they won't go wrong with any of those.
The csb in the sb is the 2017 ed. So they better use the 2020+ text but I would like to see other translation such as esv nasb
I can't speak to the direct comparisons from the Baker Illustrated Study Bible since I don't own it but I found that the sentences you read from it about Numbers appears verbatim in The Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary edited by Gary M. Burge and Andrew E. Hill. Perhaps that might be worth comparing as well in terms of how significant the overlaps might be?
That is also out of print, unfortunately.
@@DiscipleDojo Awww. That's a bummer. I didn't realise. Thanks for pointing that out! Though it looks like just as the Baker Illustrated Study Bible, it still is available digitally for those who don't mind that option.
I looked for it as well so far not any in print available. 🥺
Baker said to me:
Steffon,
The CSB Baker Illustrated Study Bible is out of print. There are currently no plans to reprint and your request has been noted by the appropriate department.
Thanks
Trust me...they're listening. :)
What also crazy I was biding on one in eBay. Currently it’s going over $510.00
Just read the Bible. The word of God isn’t going to change.
Another one sold for $980
I love my Cultural Backgrounds Study Bible. I think it's the best bible to recommend atheist readers. I was curious if I should get a Baker Illustrated Bible Handbook, a Baker Illustrated Bible Commentary, or both. Are you familiar with the former?
I am not.
The Baker Illustrated Bible Handbook is, in my opinion, THE best Handbook on the market. I was using a Handbook to teach a class at my church, so I bought a LOT of them and literally created a comparison matrix to see which ones had the best and broadest content (so for example including good articles on Bible study, Hermeneutics, Bibliology, etc etc in addition to the basic book overviews). BIBH is THE BEST ONE, period.
Only problem?? It's out of print too. You can't find this one anymore except used for $50+ and new for much more (so the price stopped me from being able to use it for my class, personally). I really have no idea why they have killed most of this Baker Illustrated series (Handbook, Commentary, Backgrounds Commentary, Study Bible). Seems only the Backgrounds Commentary featured in this video is still in print, which again, seems bizarre and unfortunate to me. Obviously there's demand...
How would you characterize the theology in the Baker Commentary? I read a review where it said the the theology is wrong.
I would say that's a silly review.
What's the difference between the CSB Baker Illustrated and the regular CSB study Bible?
Entirely different content, entirely different contributors, entirely different publishsers. The only thing they have in common is they both use the CSB translation.
I would love for you to review the CSB study Bible for women. I think it is very underappreciated. I'll gladly buy you one to review if you have the capacity. Let me know how I can get it to you. Amazon wishlist or PO Box?
There’s one on eBay right now , current bid 510.00
That's ridiculous.
@@DiscipleDojo The amount of money people are willing to pay for it. There is another one for 300 dollars.
The one for 300.00 was originally listed at 199.00 I sent an offer of 100.00 they declined it and raised the price 😢 I also contacted Baker and they said they aren't considering reprinting it
@@DiscipleDojo
One was sold a few days ago for $980
I got the mine online from annas archive
is it 1 comment per video drawing..
What about the Inspire Spiral Bible??
Anyone.....
Can't buy one anywhere. They sell out within minutes on embay for $200
One was sold days ago for $980
I actually like my older Bible's better than the updated ones. 😊
The paper is a little thicker than the newer ones ,in some of them.
I have several Journaling Bible's, I prefer my old beat-up no room to really write anything in Bible over the new ones .
It has a column refer which I love , it used to have a concordance, Topical and maps. Those fell out years ago !
But I always grab that one, and then out the door, I used to go .
I don't attend organized church anymore
To much political crap in the churches, not to mention that they've accepted a lot of man's laws instead of God's laws, and a majority also chose to agree with the church of Rome. And I want nothing to do with that church at all .
So that makes it difficult to find a church that actually believes what the Bible teaches and the Ten Commandments.
This what I believe in:
God the father
Jesus, the son
And the Holy Spirit
I believe died on the cross for my sins
Rose from the dead 3 days later walked among man for 40 days more
And then accended into heaven
I believe all 10 Commandments as written, including the 4th commandment that a majority of Christians refuse to follow because they believe mans law over God's law !
" Remer the Sabbath day and to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work.
But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD, your God . In it you shall do no work : you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant,nor your female servant nor your cattle ,nor your stranger thst is within your gates.
For in six days, the LORD made the heavens and the earth,the sea, and all that is in them,and reasted on the seventh day . Therefore, the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it ."
The church of Rome also ignores the first 2 Commandments
No other God before me
And you shouldn't have ANY graven image AND not bow down to one
They do both .
They've rewritten the 10 Commandments to suit their needs.
To bad Logos doesn’t have the CSB Baker Illustrated Study Bible.
Baker study Bible is out of print and selling for $600 on eBay!!
Yep. Some have sold for $900 since our review went viral. It's nuts. Best thing for people to do is keep emailing Baker and insisting that they reprint it!
#Baker please 🙏 re-print and do a LARGE print. 😊
I have the Baker Illustrated Bible Background Commentary, and while the physical construction and price are excellent, I was extremely disappointed with the amount of content.
The book has a single-column format, giant margins, pretty large font, and just tons of white space in general. Many of the notes are sparse. My impression is that it actually has less words than the notes in the Cultural Background Study Bible, despite not needing to include the Biblical text!
Clearly there was a high-level editorial decision to make this an introductory source with fairly basic information. I disagree with that decision. Maybe it's just me, but in my mind a one-volume commentary is a step more advanced than a study Bible, and should have more and deeper content than one. Instead it's actually less.
I was particularly disappointed in the length of the essays. Every one wastes an entire half a page just for the essay's title. They are particularly short in the New Testament, where many of the essays are less than 2 pages, despite covering topics on which you could write an entire book. Heck, some of the essays are less than half a page of content (though they still use up 2 full pages, mostly white space).
Worst of all is the essay on the intertestamental period. You would think a background commentary would have a ton of info there, but instead the actually text of that essay is a whopping 3 pages long. In fairness, some of that material is (briefly) covered in the NT essays. But it's still pathetically little, less than is found in the equivalent essay in many study Bibles, even those not focused on cultural background. If I had my way, this essay would be a dense 50-page monograph. I want to know, step by step, how synagogues developed. I want to know everything about the history of the Sanhedrin and what authority it exercised decade by decade. I want to know exactly how the Pharisees and other sects developed after the Maccabean period. I want to know the entire biography of John Hyrcanus, his life and times and successors. I want to know, blow by blow, how Jerusalem fell to Pompey and the aftermath and its influence on Jewish thought. I want to know the history of all the developments of Jewish theology after the time of Nehemiah. Instead, I got 3 pages.
I would only recommend this book to people who want introductory-level content in a separate book in a large font. Otherwise, I'd just get a study Bible with similar content. This book could also be useful for someone who wants to write a lot of their own notes in the margins; there's certainly plenty of space for it.
Please reprint the bible !
If people just want the commentary, that's great, but for those of us who prefer the combination, it's not !
It's hard to carry 2 books to a study group !
Oh, in their commentary, they need to stop using shiny paper it's a pain in the backside for studying , it glares and makes it hard to write notes in .
That's any commentary or other reference books printed ☹️
Better that Baker do a REPRINT, and stop trying to sell books that people don't want