Your boats Hydraulic Steering: Spend $5.00 vs. $25. for fluid
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"JETTYWOLF TIP" - boating is expensive enough. Here's a tip I learned from a Custom Aluminum boat builder, artist from Alaska on "how to save money" for the fun part of fishing and boating.
and been using this ever since, in my Teleflex Seastar Hydraulic Steering on my boat......''works fine for me."
In the charter fishing business margins are tight. Tackle, boat, trailer, truck, licensing, insurances. Everthing mechanical needs ''constant maintenance''. especially in the saltwater world. If I find something that can save me $20 to $50, and it works, I'm in!
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Great tip !! I bought boughts 2 quarts of sea star yesterday and im goin to return today and go with your idea. Thanks !!
they are sooooo proud of that. ITS TOTAL BS.
Thanks a lot Dave, saved me a trip to the boat repair shop. I ended up putting a little over a half a quart and bled it up through the helm. Steering is like new now. The Marvels went up a little since your video, now its $8 and change.Still a bargin 👍
and smells good too!
Thanks for your tips, Capt Dave. I've used ATF instead of the Sea Star fluid in my boat on the Chesapeake Bay since I retired and living on a fixed income. I'll try the Marvel Mystery since it cheaper yet. It tickles me to read some of the comments below where guys comment with their "theoretical" learning opposing your practical experience.
Yep, I always say the entertainment value is in the comments. There's always gonna be someone who takes it all too serious.
Captain Dave I’m sorry for all the haters, I’ve been using MMO since 1992 I run several boats year round doing commercial diving and this stuff is amazing, I get 6-8 seasons before changing seals and one boat went 16 years. Don’t listen to the dildos talking smack. Let them spend the money they don’t have. You are a good dude keep it coming. Take care.
I really don't care about any of the all I know is that works it's in my steering right now is cheap and that's all I care about
Great tip!
13:42 Use it every trip brother. Great video.
I've always used ATF on all my boats for hydraulic steering. Even the folks at capilano say that's a good fluid to use.
Great idea captain
Been working for me for over 12 years so far so good
No intention of disputing Marvel Mystery Oil or the various grades of commercial hydraulic oil as far as which is better for boat steering, I can personally attest to this formula: 3 parts ATF , 1 part #2 diesel. I have used this in two commercial fishing boats with NO seal leakage in 20 years.
Where do you get #2 diesel? Can I just use pump diesel?
Im in the process of changing my seals on my seastar here in Hawaii. Im going to use the marvel. Thanks
how did it work out ?
So far it works great. Been fishing every weekend.
Enjoyed that. And Thanks for sharing
wow.....''some who actually got it!'' All I was doing was passing on a super simple ''EZ BUTTON'' solution a master aluminum boat builder told me from AK. and been using it ever since. Hardly anyone got the gist. But, all claim to have a better solution than whats right in every Walmart!
@@CaptDavesSportfishing Yes penny saved penny erned. Keep posting.
@@larrylazure4288 I do....up to 3 a week when I have time.
Thanks Capt. Dave> I am going to try Marvel Oil for my 205 Procraft
it works....been running it for now about 14 years. AGAIN....TOO WARM in Jax. Florida in Feb. 🌞🌞
Refineries use that stuff they called Schwegel locks that connect it for high-pressure steam they’re great can I use that on my trim and tilt
I'M A FISHING GUIDE, passing on what a ole Alaskan boat builder told me. THATS IT. I have no idea what you're talkin about.
Thank you a lot I'll try it .
IT WORKS FOR ME! and when it leaks it smells Good!
It's Marvel Mystery Oil, not "Marvel's". I used to go by their facility in Portchester, NY on the '60s-'70s. It was right across the street from a gigantic Life Savers candy factory. Lots of smells! Thanks for your secrets.
WGAS.....
How many years do you get on your seals before they start leaking? With sea star fluid we usually get anywhere between 6 to 7 years before they start leaking. Just curious if MMO gives the seals premature wear or if its about the same.
dont count
Since using marvel mystery oil, have you ever had a problem with the steering pump?
Nope
Is Marvel mystery oil OK to mix with existing sea star-oil? I just need to top off my system.
no idea, probably wont hurt snything.
I ordered MMO with label "ADD to GAS a & OIL", from ZORO but they send MMO "The Original Enhancer & Fuel Treatment". I called MMO and they said the latter would work for power steering. I would appreciate any feedback.
hahaha didn't know there was a difference I use what ever they made 20 years ago and is in Walmart
Cheap is always the way to go! I think you need some snow!
I'd like at least some cool weather to fish in before the 99 degrees hits.
Nice Clicks 👌
Thanks for the great tip!!!! Tired of getting ripped off on these marine products!!!!!!
in use for 10 years at least now. ''NOT CONSTANT'' It has been replaced, many times
Good video . I am actually looking at two of the same boats with 115 mercury 4s. The only difference is that one bas Non feedback steering and the other has hydraulic steering. Would the hydraulic steering be the better option?
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Seastar fluid is simple 15w hydraulic fluid. UC46 from Autozone. One gallon $14.
Yeah but Wallys world is on every street corner in America so that was the whole point. dont be like the many, and comment just for the sake of it. I know what the deal is.
Right, I was just dropping some info, marvel mystery oil I believe is 15w as well.
It was cold fishing in the UK today ice on the water, rain and an icy wind.
Hmmm, thats winter for ya......"DOH"
Sadly yes
Thanks for the tips. How much oil does it take to fill a hydraulic system?
depends on the run length. get at least 2-3qts. at least
Not boat related but I have a IH 454 tractor with hydraulic steering that is very hard to turn I wonder if that will work I have used it in cars
don't see why not.
I just bought a us boat not long ago. Not sure what they used. Can I still use MMO to top it off?
no clue
Can you mix seastar oil with Marvels
NEVER HAVE...I'm straight, MMO and done with it.
I work for a pipeline co. In Georgia... I’m gonna be installing hydraulic steering on my 150hp outboard... can I use heavy equipment hydraulic oil for my boat steering system?
no idea...ATF or Marvel, is all I've used. Marvel Mystery Oil, $ cheap at Walmart.
@@CaptDavesSportfishing ok thanks
I have been using it for years.
You said you don't know how many helm pumps at the tiller you have changed out and how the steering ram seals (glandular wipers) you have replaced on many boats. Have you ever considered that 'Marvel Mystery Oil' is maybe eroding or degrading the rubber components in your steering?
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@@CaptDavesSportfishing Marvel Mystery oil comes in a plastic bottle, and holds pretty good on the shelf. I'm not worried about it!
I dont think oil is degrading rubber. Thats wild
Can the MMO be used in my Seastar Hydraulic steering with the electronic power assist motor/valve body??
WHY NOT? if it uses the expensive stuff, it can use the cheap stuff too.
Are you using the old mmo formula?? The new formula is benzene and mineral spirits. It literally has zero oil in it.
no clue......see the bottle I'm holding. this video was march 2017, haven't touched my steering since. ''thats a good thing''.
Mil Spec 5606 works too. Doesn't smell as good though.
no idea what that is, I use 'civilian'' fisherman ''Spec''
@@CaptDavesSportfishing Maybe you should look into Mil Spec 5606 You''ll be glad you have it if there is a fire on board. Long walk home.
@@nuttintoseehere9141 maybe next time around....or maybe I'll take the insurance money and get me that side console Stabicraft I want from NZ.
@@CaptDavesSportfishing Your choice. Make sure you burn it on shore.
@@CaptDavesSportfishing I checked it out. I bought Mil Spec 5606 at the airport for $25/gal. The part I like is that it is approved by Teleflex and it is red too!
Hi I just bought a uflex hydro steering cylinder because my HC5345 seastar pivot bolt bushings came loose on both sides some how and lost my steering out in the water. Seastar wont sell me the bushing bolt kit and thats all thats wrong. My seastar works great but its jimmy rigged right now with a rod and bushings tied like a castle nut. Its a better design setup than factory lol. Dont like it that i cant buy parts. Had to get a new one. If i sold my boat someone would frown on the cylinder. Bought a uflex. Will that mystery oil be ok in that UFLEX. Im sure its the same concept design. On how things work. Uflex- seastar. Craps all the same... Just never heard of this mystery oil used in the steering. Im kinda scared to use the stuff. I wanna do it. But scared to. Thanks
IT'S ALL LIGHT HYDRAULIC OIL. and cheaper. See it when it leaks, and smells good. Spend or not, it's been in mine for years.
how about atf with stop leak ? it should work
ATF.......NO STOP LEAK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ATF is safer for the seals, better because it's actually hydraulic fluid, and even cheaper than MMO.
you missed the point
My steering went hard right starboard when full throttle at start. Wouldn’t turn only at low rpm’s. Make fluid low in steering wheel? Ty
Make no sense?
@@CaptDavesSportfishing maybe the fluid is low or I need to bleed it? Idk
@@robertmartin265 ya think???? low, why is what I'd think. If you were using MMO you'd see and smell it.
@@CaptDavesSportfishing I have a mercury 150 xl 4s. 2014 with 245 hrs. I’m not a mechanic but I think I’m going to try to bleed system
@@robertmartin265 yeah I'm not a mechanic either but I take pride in doing constant maintenance keeping everything going
Every seals or hoses has its own requirements of chemical it might be safe for seals .hoses or other parts but i would check in to it first before using it. Unless you are willing to pay the price of getting cheap. If you own a boat you better be prepare for right maintenance and expenses. Just saying .
10 years, zero issues.
It's on a Suzuki rig so it's not like it's quality any way.
@@dontblameme6328 wtf are you smoking, what is problem with suzukis
I’ve heard snow plow hydraulic oil works well too and is cheap. But I’ve never heard of using Marvel. One thing is for sure. Teleflex oil costs more than blood!
Yes I'm really surprised that this video doesn't go crazy in the Boating world because Teleflex steering fluid hydraulic fluid is so radically expensive Marvels really isn't anything but light oil that can be used in a hydraulic system
The Marina told me power steering fluid would great that’s what they use he said
yes, ATF works, lots of stuff works.
I was talking about stainless steel tubing the old alaskan boat building guy used I worked at a refinery where they make gasoline and they have tons of stainless steel tubing for high-pressure steam swaglelock is how they connect the lines together so It don’t leak very expensive
I use atf for all my vehicles steering systems, also red, if you are going to spend 25 bucks a pint for power steering fluid, you might as well spend that 25 bucks on the quart of teleflex.
Christian Fritz I have used Prestone power steering fluid it was only 389 a pint
@@samtate1260 It was a joke, there are literally hundreds of light weight oils that differ so slightly in formulation. They can cost 50 bucks an ounce to 50 bucks for 50 gallons. You are actually paying for the marketing.. Or the container, or even, the scent that is added.
Stainless steel tubs in contact with aluminum boats used in salt water....... now this is a combination for all kinds of dissimuler metal corrosion. Not the best idea
Really? You dont know shit.
The coast guard recommends using sea star hydraulic fluid because it isn’t flammable. If your on a charter boat they catch you using atf fluid or something flammable they’ll probably ground you. Sucks it’s 30 bucks a quart but better to be safe then sorry.
Oh really. Thanks for your 2 cents.
As a fellow captain I will attest to being the only one being injured constantly. Back in November I had a Ballyhoo bill impale my foot.
Oh hell yeah....I could go on and on. Sheepshead dorsal spines thru a xtratuff boot. """"Foot infection"""" for 3 weeks.
Thats why we get paid the 'BIG' bucks. LOL
Is ir the same viscosity? Didn’t think so! Keep sniffing the oil!
You think I would be doing this video if it didn't work it's been in five different steering systems of mine no problemo
Not trying to sound like a no it all but when it comes to boats automotive stuff doesn’t cut it.
20 PLUS years and it still works.
So can this also be used for tilt and trim fluid as well???
not sure....ATF-4 is what I use in tilt and trim, probably so. Hydraulic steering is like 1000 psi, and pt & t, is probably also...the ole alaskan never said anything about that.
Stainless mechanical tubing!
I just saw the photos....I fish for a living I don't build custom alloy plate boats.
Hi l
Thinking is making different oil in there it’s okay or no
I mean is two different brand hydronic oil
As usual another great video with the typical ignorant comments from the wanna B's .
I agree with you Dave on the Marvel and wonder about warranty ?.
Oh well of course they don't want you using anything but their stuff that cost $25 a quart but 99% of everything do with most steering systems is repairable at home no problem I've done pretty much all that kind of stuff myself. Hey it's all about making money for me it's all about saving money to stay in business
And yes some of the comments are absolutely ridiculous I'm proof can using the stuff for 20 years in my hydraulic steering systems.
And I love the smell of Marvel's in the morning!!
@@CaptDavesSportfishing , second to the smell of 2 stroke fumes for us that still have them
Great VLOG Capt. Dave...love the VLOG! Hows the Suzuki running so far?
so far so good.....''likes a scalded dawg.''
I've got a 90hp on mine and its going into its 9th season....my next boat will have one also.
yeah, I don't see myself switching ''flavors'' next time either
Probably why it's leaking
WRONG!
@@CaptDavesSportfishing -I said !! jeeeez -a little edgy are ya?
Any buzz from huffing on it?
try it.
Marvel Mystery oil does not have an "s" in it.
big f'n deal.
Whats the third letter of Mystery?
Marvel mystery oil smells like peptobvisible
Can you make a Manhattan 🍷with it ??
A spearmint smelling one.......
Pepto-Bismol that smells
yeah, could be the same.
I can tell you this, that smell isn't mint. It's phenol.
I think it's actually spearmint.
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I'm guessing we means yes. lol
This is just wrong. If you put anything but Teleflex steering fluid in there, your boat will explode first time out.
I'VE BEEN THRU 20 BOAT BECAUSE OF THAT!!!!!!!
You spend too much time BSing about your friend the weather the smell.. etc.. how about sticking to how to fix the problem.
I'm not here to fix your f'in personal problems go do your own videos then!
I came here for info on the mmo. Not for the stupid chatter. Peace out