World Relays A Tough Lesson | JAAA Stop Embarrassing Jamaican Athletes
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- World Relays A Tough Lesson | JAAA Stop Embarrassing Jamaican Athletes
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If we medal at the Olympic they should share the money with those that help us qualify
If I agree with you one more time 'yu si'
The fact that Jamaica is coming to Paris with the world champ in the 400m and an additional finalist from worlds in the 400 yet is in jeoprady to not qualify for the 4x400 relay just shows the incompetence and embarrassing nature of the JAAA
The coaches and athletes who refused to go must to be blamed too. But it’s still not fair for this team to go and had to run twice for the country to qualify and then the big guns come and take the spots. Some of these same ladies and men will not make it to Paris. Yet those who win at the trials are the ones to run relay.
@@user-rw8hj1fv5v yes agree the coaches being selfish holding back the athletes and therefore jeoprodising their own countries chances at competing in the olympics is also a huge problem and they deserve a good bit of the blame to
Can't agree more.
Please put the blame on the appropriate persons, if the athletes and the coaches aren't interested they won't compete.But I'm looking forward to see what the Jaaa's will do after this embarrassment, Straight up the MVP, Racers & Elite are the culprits. By the way where are Ashanti Moore & Shian Salmon?, I hope coaches Mills,Francis& Walcott are very happy with the performances of our athletes over the weekend.
@@TAM.w39 I agree with you. But there is a Minister who supersedes everyone. From the head to the bottom are to be blamed. It’s not the first and it won’t be the last of that man keeps doing things his way
I hope these Conversations are seen & heard by those people it is meant!!!!
I guess the association, coaches and athletes should come together and solve this problem. Jamaica's reputation is at stake
Thank you very much for your analysis T.🙏 The importance of passing the baton can be exemplified by the Jamaica womens sprint relay at the 2008 Olympics. We had the three fastest women in the world, 123 in the Olympic 100 meters. We won the gold medal in the women's 200 meters. What happened in the 4X100 Relays ? Baton change disaster !
Yes im a American, but im so happy for Tia Clayton and Alana Reid for helping Jamaica women quality for the 4x100 Olympics. And you didn't need to use your A team to qualify.
What if they did not get a second chance? I believe that the order at first was wrong . Tia was always good at anchor and look where the idiots put her. The selectors should be ashamed of themselves to not having one member from the A team for each event.
Most of the athletes who will be in Paris are training less the 2 miles apart and they will not train for relays
Let's hope something changes
This video neeed to be heard!!!!!!!!!!! This is sooo much factssssss
The JAAA need professional people to properly handle what they are mandated to do-it's apparent we're not making the neccessary adjustments to overcome our shortcomings.
Pipe down people. Yes the teams could have been better but the top athletes haven't even ran their opening event as yet and not prepared to run fast. The B team athletes need to be more prepared and ready to go. When did we switch our focus from individual to relays?? Keep the emotions out of it for now and things will sort itself out. Our main focus is not relays but getting the younger athletes developed and be ready to take over. Right now after the Big 3 there isn't much left so we need to be looking in that direction of development. The younger ones are still 2-3 years away so we are still leaning on the Big 3 until they're ready? If Jacko goes down we have only Elaine left in the 200m and we still don't know which version we will get.
We have major issues other than relays right now! We still can't find any male suitable athlete to challenge the Americans in the sprints!! We worried about not qualifying for relays then that tells me we are shifting focus.
WE are talking about this pass weekend
@onemanagainstthworld
I totally agree with your assessment and believe the coaches have the same focus on the individual events because it’s more money for them and their clubs from the different shoe companies..
Understand that the JAAA have to beg the athletes.These athletes are professionals and if they say they don’t want to participate in the World Relays ;nothing the JAAA can do but ask around.
If they don’t participate now. They should not be allowed on the team at the Olympics,
That is not how it works.
Athletes are selected based on their performances at the National Championship/ trials.
You are spot on. You have offered SEVERAL constructive suggestions and I love that. Your analysis is impeccable!!
My two cents is really a question. Are our athletes being paid? If so is that adequate? Does the Puma contract have a provision for relay pool members? Should the JOA have money in their budget? Will paying these athletes not help to ensure that they prepare adequately?
One thing is for sure, times are changing and so we need to move with the times.
Anyway you covered this in your presentation. Thanks for being thorough. Two thumbs up!!
JAAA , Please you guys need to do better than this we have person's who are doing good, please use up these person okay, it's not looking good on us globally,l know we can do much better than this so guys please get down to serious work we don't want to be a laughing stock 😢😂 okay
Clearly the JAAA is unfit to handle the current situation in order tor Jamaica to be fully successful. Unless they get outside help with fresh perspectives & forward thinking, nothing will change. There seems to be some issue with the JAAA & the Clubs, why these Clubs aren't fielding relay teams at all these Meets. This is insane!!!
Some heads need to roll.....😡😡😠😡😠 a straight up foolishness......
It needs to be run like a 'for profit' business with goals, KPIs and accountability from top to bottom.
You talking sense. Speed is one thing, getting the baton around fast and effectively can only come by practice and chemistry
Perfectly said T
T, thank you for your commentary; you've hit the nail on the head; stench of an individualism vs. collectivism culture
Jamaica has never performed above average in any world relays. I remember watching Elaine,Shellyand two others running the 4x200relay and they messed up terribly. Relay is a technical race accompanied by speed. All we need is a mandatory relay camp. We are too overly sensitive. Let us be encouraging to our athletes. We complain prematurely all the time. Let us give them time. Then we cuss
With 2 overturns in the W sprints, there is NO WAY SAFP and ETH gonna jeopardise their chance at gold with focus on relay. This is SJ best chance to win gold in the 100m too, so same applies to her. Frankly, I prefer 1-2-3 in the flat 100m and relay silver than Relay GOLD plus silver and bronze in the flat 100.
Top prospects dont take chances in Oly years when the competitors are effectively peer powers.
@@StGCfiLifebut getting 1-2-3 and finishing second is embarrassing
@@shamarharvey6117 Really, yuh think anything puddung for you? Ask the US is they prefer a shutout but get a consolation relay gold. Better than nothing, BUT....
@@StGCfiLifeThe rest of the world does not agree. All the other countries sent their top athletes.
I totally agree with you T, house need to clean in JAAA, how can you just put athletes on a ✈️ and seh go run relay that’s BSsss
You are totally right T
Very very very embarrassing
@EvangelicalDj That part
@@TxTTracktimeMy apologies,you were right all along
Excellent analysis. I hope the powers that be heed your recommendations
Well said ttt
Talk truth ❤
New leadership needed in the likes of Teddy McCook.
Whew, my girl T here speaking the facts!
Thats why the juniors for like tia , tina , cole had chemistry why they got the junior record
CONGRATS TO YOUR CHANNEL
I'm pretty sure that MVP track club has 4 athletes male/female that can practice, represent and break world records. Come on Franno!!
All the countries improving track and field Jamaica is the only one that does not improve your athletes in track and field
I agree with you 💯
A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT!
Alana is in the USA. BTW, they are NOT that fast. 42.75 vs the WJR we set at 42.59?
1. The WJR from all those 4 girls from CARIFTA a few years ago are from girls were all practicing the relays before and familiar with how to run it.
2. They were familiar because all of them competed at champs also at the penn relays. All of that required them to practice with each other in their training especially for champs everybody was familiar with each other at the time.
3. Obviously the time here wouldn't be fast because the girls had no practice prior the race they had to be extremely safe so ofc it won't be an extravagant time remember TT said the American guys had no sub 10 runners but they ran 37.4 because of practice.
4 You must put 2+2 together and try get 4 because your explanation not adding to the 4.
And mind you CARIFTA games is like a week and a half from champs and all those girls ran @ champs and had relay camps at their schools respectively going in to CARIFTA so ofc they would perform that well smh some of you guys don't know how to reason well.
You are so true
I agree ☝🏾 don’t want to be apart of the relay camp just forgot all together. Enough is enough
I hope the people who meant to be heading this video listen GOOD!!!
Jamaica need to fix the high school track and field
It hurts whiles watching and my pressure went up… note: Jamaica best fix it because some think they can’t be touch …
1. Sponsors are involve
2. Fans are involve
3. Moneys are involve …
Will not add more
I agree with you T
Yes,I saw a clip of thier practice.
Relays were lit 🔥
I think your're using the channel as your personal therapist. Anyway, you got it right. If you don't practice, you don't run. With the U.S. my fear is that outside influences like sponsers and coaches my try to interfere with the selction process. I love your accent even though I only understood 95% is sounded beautiful.
Hi t,
Hope all is well 😊
@debbiecoombs3388 Hey
Yes TT you got it 100% correct. You are an A student. It is interesting that just a few weeks ago Jamaican students dominated at the Penn Relays. It's all about the preparation.
@delroytomlinson5339 Who wanna play with TT🎶
I agree with you
That’s a good idea at these velocity fest and all comers they could have racers mvp elite etc have there own 4x100 team and compete that would be perfect to get practice
Everything you talk is the truth 100%
I quite agree with you. The USA has been practicing for months they even post it. If Jamaica doesn't practice we will never win any relay. The USA is bigger than Jamaica and can manage to practice their relay. We had the three fastest women in the world and got beaten twice at the worlds. When is Jamaica going to wake up? Noah is so right chemistry is the key.
You don’t need the A team for qualifications. I feel Jamaica are holding their cards close to keep everyone talking and guessing ❤
T i agree with you 200% I talk about this button exchange thing with the Jamaican's team all the time. People seem to think that when we talk about these things, we bashing the althetics, but that is not the case. We need to learn to take constructive criticism. Our althetics are great, but their are room for improvement with the button exchange. The execution of the button is key in a relay no matter how fast the members of the team are, and we need to understand that.
Thankfully, I prepared myself to not get high BP over the shenanigans with these clubs, coaches and some athletes. Anyway, Bigups to those athletes who showed up to perform for Jamaica. THERE SHOULD BE MANDATORY RELAY CAMPS, WHERE YOU DON’T RUN IF YOU DID NOT PRACTICE. PERIOD‼️
Too much egotistical nonsense with some top athletes and clubs and coaches. Too much hypeniss. KMRT
Not everyone was saying you're wrong T. You need to say "some people" 🙂 Btw....you have good ideas about how we should probably go about it but how do you get everyone on board?
@user-oq7ji2rx4l I stand corrected, "some". Can't call them my ideas though lol.
@@TxTTracktime I mean...I agree with you but those Admin people will never change and IF they do, it will be short lived. I have absolutely NO faith they can come up with solutions that works for everyone. The Clubs would probably have to solve the issues on there own. Wasn't it just last 2021 Olympics that JAAA and JOA were squabbling among themselves??? smh
Can't blame Jaaa , if the coaches of the more accomplished Jamaican athletes did not send them.
So, there are new qualifying standards for relay teams at the olympic . Apparently, the JAAA didn't understand that .I wasn't aware of the changes until now. But I am not responsible for these decisions. Stay on top of it T.
Thank you for this … they should put u on the board … I think they could qualify for the men 4x400
They just don't care T....it's just sad
Agree with u t
Noah made it make sense 😊
To further emphasize the importance of proper baton exchange, harken back to the 1968 Olympics in Mexico. Jamaica broke the world record in the heats of the men's 4X100 meters relay. What happened in finals ? Jamaica did not medal ! Our anchor leg was run by Lenox "Billie" Miller. He had just won the silver medal in the men's 100 meters. He had previously anchored the University of Southern California's sprint relay team to the fastest time in the world. They were not accorded the world record because all members of that team did not come from the same country. Incidentally OJ Simpson ran the 3rd leg on that relay team. OJ handed the baton to Lenox Miller. The point being made here is that by the time of the '68 Olympics Miller anchored two different sprint relay teams that ran the fastest time in the world. So why did Jamaica not get a medal in the finals when Jamaica broke the world record in the heats ? . Practice, practice, practice !!!
JAAA should resign en block.
Interesting to hear glen mills state he was never told that the world relays was a qualifier for the Olympics. Why wouldn’t the jaaa pass that information on to the coaches. Something weird is happening in 🇯🇲 tnf and we need answers.
Look! We are a STEM Island now. We have more important things to focus on. Get use to these results in Track & Field.😂
Really,the qualifying mark is 2:59-2:58. Jamaica missed a big opportunity.
My Jamaican friends. When is ShaCarri Richardson putting her Superwoman cape on again? Shes not Superwoman anymore. She has 100 days left to change to Superwoman. I'm not going to lie. I'm getting a little nervous 😢. Also, our second fastest runner, Aleia Hobbs, I think She's still injured. Yes, we still can win the relays with our B team, but individuals races. We(America) only have one person that has beaten all the big three Jamaicans GOATs(Elaine, Shericka and Shelly). The only American that did that is ShaCarri Richardson. Please ShaCarri, turn into Superwoman like you did last year, right now. I miss that 10.65 ShaCarri 😢
What did she beat Elaine?
@@user-rw8hj1fv5v She beat Elaine after she beat your other two(Shelly and Shericka) after the world championship. So you blind. ShaCarri beat all your female sprinters. Stop acting stupid.
USA sent Gabby thomas power house as they knew Shacarri was not in the beast shape.She was there for 400 by 4: as well. Shericka might has well done the same.
Team America can finance their training facilities
Adidas offered money for training facilities in their bid though
I'm glad T you've supported the position of mandatory participation for the relays-some people don't support this position but we have to be pragmatic because we don't have the talent pool like countries such as the US. And the argument that athletes have their committments & priorities is not acceptable because this also applies to those athletes who made themselves available to represent their countries at the world relays.
Thanks for the info Sister T. Can't blame the authorities for people not being ready to go this early. There should be mandatory relay practice for all athletes that want to make the track and field team to major championships.
Exactly
Surely they have trainers to encourage them to train 🤔
T, for the JAAA to take stock of your insightful analysis you would have had to attend a particular high school, and you would have had to be a male to attend that school. My view from back in the 1960's , is that the JAAA is the old boys club of that particular high school. I support all Jamaican schools and all Jamaican athletes and what is best for the athletes and what produces the best result for Jamaica. The JAAA should try doing the same 🙏
I could not say that any better. When I left Jamaica in 1980, I had a Jamaica Amatuer Athletic Association membership, which my mom was instrumental in acquiring for me when I was competing at boys champs during the late 70's. My mom officiated at Boys Champs and Gidson Relays. I was able to use my membership to attend development meets at the stadium on weekends or over at JSA School of Agriculture.
About 10 years ago, I wanted to compete at a masters event at the stadium in Jamaica. I could not believe the politics and red tape I had to go through as a member. I was told that I have to be re-instated and enough to make me just forget about trying to participate. I was like, wow! You would think that I was embarking about a visa permit. Then someone told me... "tell them you attended this school" I could not lie because I attended "country KC".. Knox College while I was a member at JAAA. 😁
am happy yes that they qualify to participate at the Olympic but am hoping they get the chance to make the 4x400 however am not pleased with the team selection am 100% sure there was way better athletes to bring to get better results as this event was so important to the qualification of the Olympic .
Coaches are selfish and the technical team always try to put their athletes on relay team when they're not good. So you practice got to the meet and Maurice Wilson try to put one of his athletes who is no good on the team
Can someone ask Alana Reid why is the fastest women in the world struggling this early in the season. Alana Reid should know bcuz she trains with ShaCarri Richardson.
A few things:
1. The team that ran the 34 in the relays consisted of Dina Asher-Smith, Adeleke, and Julian Alfred. These women train together with the same coach and have not participated in any other relay meet. So it may be a bit of a stretch to credit the meets the USA setup for them achieving that time and having that smooth cohesion.
2. JAAA can setup similar meets, but if elite athletes are declining or making themselves unavailable for things like the world relay qualifiers, why would we think they would make themselves available for these meets?
3. And if the elite athletes aren't making themselves available for these meets, would it be beneficial for the JAAA, who has a much tighter wallet than USA, to setup these meets to train people to pass the baton that aren't going to be the elite athletes passing the baton at Worlds?
EDIT: I'm not sure if the USA is doing this, but I guess one solution would be to make it so that anyone who wants to be part of the final relay team has to run in the meets. Which *might* compel elite athletes to partake if they want to increase their gold tally. But the whole country would riot if we don't put the elites in the finals because they didn't show up at these meets so I don't really think this would work.
@matthewrs To fear none of the elite sprinters open their season yet except for Akeem Blake and Sharika, Jackson who opened her season yesterday..
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I wished they hadn’t sent a team the embarrassing display of the exchanges was abysmal how can they not have training together to change the baton. Hope this is a wake up call for the Olympics
There are better ways to go in 2024 than mandating relay participation, which wouldn't work anyway. Instead, the JAAA needs to financially incentivize athletes because one's pocketbook dictates any day over national pride. Aren't SAFP, ETH, and SJ multi-millionairesses? Like Lyles was with Team USA, one of them-likely SJ-should've been running with the ladies in Nassau.
Jamaican so-called decision operatives cannot proficiently formulate programs and processes. Moreso, they cannot implement the coordination of resources and personnel! If a proficient dispatch of athletes could not be assembled, decision makers should not have opted to incur the costs of competing without foresight of even "satisficing" payoffs in "utils."
WHY THEY PUT SHADOW LINES THROUGH THE COMMENT I JUST MADE -- IS BEYOND COMMON SENSE -- PLEASE MAKE IT MAKE SENSE ???
Lyes so said who’s gonna stop the US .. yow
@EvangelicalDj Who will lol
Can someone please explain to me how McDonald keep getting selected for the relay teams ? The man is a failure.They took him off the mix team and they qualified. They put him on the 4x400 team and they failed to qualify--Shmmm!!!
Demish Gaye too. Still scratching my head as to why these 2 always get on to the team .
@barrylloyd5854 McDonald be the only one that was ready, I think he train in the USA or Europe.
The 2023 400m world champion is definitely not ready because he is still running 46s or 45s when he should be running in and around lower 44 or 43 and this won’t happen hopefully around August in time for the Olympic.
Happy the issues show up at World Relays and not the Olympics
These were world events. It is going to have a track record of twenty events in twenty years. W2hat will Jamaica's track record in it be like? A legacy is not something to mess around with. Pride has a reason to be what it is. Jamaica did not do the best that Jamaica could do.
Mandatory ?? Have you forgotten what happened in 2008 and 2009?
JAAA tried to bump off MVP because they refused to attend their mandatory camp.
All the men 400 relay is a big disgrace
Are you running?
Not camp...Lyles said they live 15mins from each other.
Jamaica should learn from US team...... the consistency in relay
🙄What!!!🚬 🚬 🚬
@@angieD9674 🧐😱 read again
@@dibyanshunag8685 You do your research before you criticise Jamaica🖤💚💛
@@angieD9674 I'm not criticize it's true.... bcoz Shelly has told that Jamaica should make relay camp.....I'm great fan of Jamaican athlete.... bcoz they're more capable and didn't deliver due to less of practice n poor batton exchange. And they admitted.....I really hope Jamaica beat us in Paris
@@dibyanshunag8685 I hope everyone does their best for their Country...ONE LOVE 🖤💚💛
Big Big Disappointment from the Jamaican team
It's all about money.
Look at the British team, no asher-smith, lanquist, Phillips, or Neita. Yet, their B team got a bronze medal. And the sprint capital with faster athletes cannot make the final. Britain's B team better than Jamaica B team because they practice, practice, practice. Who would have thought!
Jamaicans are lion hearts, they will qualify and possibly medal… allow them to correct the kinks, and if they fail then it's a hard lesson for them to learn. We need to show a little grace.
This was foreseeable..
Watch USA mess up in Paris. LoL
You maybe surprise, it maybe Jamaica so stop hating already
@@freedomokffisddo452Or it could as stated.......
Don't do that. The energy you give out is like a boomerang. I want 🇯🇲 to compete with, and BEAT the best.
@@freedomokffisddo452 Not hating...happens too often.
@@christinasmart1646 Me too, but the US does it all the time. I agree, I want the best there.
ETH and SAFP make their season debut yet? SJ just run last weekend.
We need to beat 2:59.12s by June 30.
Them better run one at trials😂😂
@@shamarharvey6117 Yep
Still like your hair😊
Coaches are selfish
Looking a dolled up..n pretty
Coaches are selfish and the technical team always try to put their athletes on relay team when they're not good. So you practice got to the meet and Maurice Wilson tey to put one of his athletes who is no good
I think these athletes are getting selfish all they care about is winning their individual races
Did you really just say that?? When did Jamaica switch from winning individual races to focusing on relays?? Pipe down peeps track is about individual accomplishments not relays!!
"by the name of Jesus". really??? It should be "by the names of my teammates"
So no one on the Jaaa listening to you? you need to give them a call cause this cant continue! we need to win all the relays or at least 3 out f 4.
The Jamaican sprinters had represented your COUNTRY'S Qualifying for the Olympics 4 out of 5 and I heard that IOC said that the top time of the teams would be qualified for the 4×400 after JUNE, and not 🚭🚫 practicing so much, but experienced as your raising stars but other countries have HEAVY HITTERS who were Olympians, World Champions, and National Champions and since you are speaking about Americans, we are fierce contenders!!! And yeah, you forgot!! You have beaten us at Penn Relays RECENTLY, REMEMBERED and you boasted, and US Olympic trials are coming up for us to send our BEST of the BEST as other countries!!! Everyone are HUMAN and they could only do their BEST!!!! Nope, I disagree with you because everyone expected the Jamaican sprinters to compete the A list, but those countries were tracked them down with their HEAVY HITTERS so they exceeded their time and there were so much pressure that mistakes were made; but aren't you having Olympics trials for PARIS?!! I expect your HEAVY HITTERS for the Olympics in Paris 2024, but your sprinters as a team had done their best, and the 4×4 men, the men made too many mistakes that they didn't pace themselves but ran out of gas ⛽ that caused them to get a score of 3:05. something to 3:00. something to 3:04. something to be called again after JUNE by the IOC because it's the top score and I don't remember their score beforehand and I think 🤔 that it was better than the second time, but you research that yourself, but I do agree with you about SUPPORTING your athletes regardless if they medalled of not 🚭🚫!!!! I had to defend your athletes and I am an American because that podcast from Jamaica trashed them because they didn't WIN, so I wanted to hear what you have to say about your athletes, but you were better than his podcast... but just remember, you compete with us internationally and invitationals especially the collegiates who are in the international program at the US universities and colleges, including JAMAICA and just remember, there are always Diamonds 💎 in every country regardless of what country that they represented!!!! Thanks for sharing though!!!!
The high school 🏫 boys would have been better
Pure rubbish him a talking about