The Conservatives are '6 - 1' down | Andrew Neil
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- Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
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They've also got no manager, no players, no fans, at the wrong stadium and no clue.
lol!
And about 2 players have been red carded that being boris and truss
And they're playing in the wrong direction.
If the tories weren’t so dam useless they wouldn’t be in this position
'but they are and so are the opposition, so where does that leave us?
@@CecilJRhodes vote reform 🎉
They are...but 'children.' Narcissists, at that.
Since Cameron, the Tories have only worked for Conservative Party donors. Had they worked for the benefit of the people in the UK, they would not be in the mess they are now.
Cameron and Osborne the saviors of the "white nation" on the way out they funked everyone but the native's still love them because native's be native's 😊
I totally agree with you mate 👍🏻
Well they are working for the people, but just the 5% at the top, ten years in opposition may help them come to their senses. Until then the lies will continue, and their popularity declines. Glad to see this Tory MP so jolly, has he been drinking??????????????.
Since Cameron? Nah it was Thatcher who tore-up the post war social democratic consensus. Post Thatcher, Tory leaders were basically just along for the ride, as factional warfare and a growing culture of contempt for good governance grew.
The same Cameron that led us to Brexit and nearly also broke up the Union in order to protect his party?
And there is his problem, to vote Conservative you need to have something to conserve.
Thanks to the Tories economic and political mismanagement, people have seen pensions obliterated, funds depleted and savings decimated.
Now Tories pay the price.
Socialist Government? I dont know what he has been taking but no way is the Labour Party of Keir Starmer like Labour in 1945 1964 or 1974!
indeed!
People have forgotten how socialism destroyed this country in the 70s.
Worst government ever. Some people don't like the Tories, I absolutely despise them.
Which government? Sunak? Johnson? Truss? Cameron? Quite a few to choose from, but surely Callahan was worse? They’re terrible, but not the worst.
They are only politicians, certainly not worth wasting your anger on.
O yes they are.@@CecilJRhodes
Socialist? If he thinks starmers labour is socialist then he needs to go and pick up a dictionary.
Worrying that this is the state of affairs in the country.
Then again, he works for GB news so am I surprised he’s either incompetent or a fear mongering liar? No, no I’m not
It doesn't get labeled Gammon Box News for nothing
You’ve this lot saying it’s socialism on steroids and the SNP, PC, lib dems and the greens saying it’s no where near left enough.
Meanwhile, ignoring front man for hire Farrage providing cover for Mosleyites to creep out from under their rocks.
Starmer admited he is a socalist thou and a progressive
Starmer admited he is a socialist and a progressive in a bbc interview
If the Conservatives had honoured the promises that they made on the run up to the last general election, they would not be in the mess that they are in now.
I agree entirely, and that's why we shall be voting for Reform.
Why can't these tories get it into their thick privileged heads that people are sick of the lies and corruption that his party represents.
If your last line of defence is a voting system that isn’t representative, and skews elections, you’ve already lost the argument.
“If you vote this party, you’ll get that party” isn’t the defence of your party you think it is. It is an admission that the ‘democratic’ system you’ve imposed isn’t all that ‘democratic’.
Can't recall them complaining about the last few results.
How arrogant that he says the electorate are treating like a by election and they don't realise it's not. Is there any wonder the electorate have had enough of these self entitled idiots
All self inflicted. Bye bye. Vote Labour
VOTE reform 🎉
@@juliegwilliam8503 you're ready for more decline? because that's what Reform represents, more of the same stuff that failed with the Tories!
Vote ❎ Reform
I haven't seen them score a goal yet 😂. They are as corrupt as can be. Sunak is a disgrace that's not an attack, that's a fact. He has so many conflicts of interest and his policy change and giving government contracts to companies that he has an intrest is beggars believe. He should be held accountable for his blatant corruption before our eyes.
not just sunak. the whole corrupt lying tory party.
Neil STILL doesn't get it, any Tory survival is anathema.
Tories should run on their own manifesto and their record over the last fourteen years, instead of personal attacks on the the leader of the opposition.
Socialist LOLz. This stinks of desperation.
I was going to say something similar. Especially when in my opinion, the Lib Dems are probably sitting further left of Labour with their manifesto and aren't straying out of their traditional centre to centre left position.
Only way he could be even slightly correct is if Labour win and Starmer does a huge U-turn and suddenly shoots in the complete opposite direction o where he has currently placed Labour on the political spectrum.
Starmer admited he is a socalist thou and a progressive
Andrew left him off with that twice!
He is starmer admited it
@@oldskoolloner saying he’s a “socialist” is very different from talking about a “one party socialist state” which brings to mind visions of communist East Germany which is very far from the policy platform proposed by Labour, and that’s an understatement.
He will need a miracle with a 3000 majority, thats what I hear on the doorstep.....wally
‘Socialism on steroids.’ What a clown.
6-1, when did Sunak score?
he didnt it was a rayner own goal
@@Bristolcentaurus either that or the boring manifesto own goal and i think the Labour goals are either from own goals or Reform assists.
6 times, they were all own-goals.
Tories still kidding themselves that somehow they have anyone even on a par with Starmer+Rayner
6-1 down and scored at least 3 own goals
6 own goals to be honest, given that Labour's strategy has been to park the bus at the other end of the field.
@@katrinabryce I agree - it is 6 own goals. I attended the annual dinner at my local Conservative Association 2 years ago and my Tory MP's plan was to do nothing and embrace immigration. I felt so angry with Sir Bob Neill that I cancelled my membership when I got home.
Vote Labour,get the Tories out.
Vote Reform, keep Labour out.
I don't care anymore. I will be voting ReformUK. I rather have 5 years of Labour pain now, than another 5 years of Tory status quo followed by 5 years Labour.
The Excuse for a Conservative Party is Finished 😷
Did somebody call central casting and ask them to send over a stereotypical, not overly bright right-wing Tory? What on earth made Neil think this guy would have anything interesting to say?
What’s really going to be a problem for the conservative is, when the Labor government DOESN’T fall apart or make things worse they will have nothing to attack.
I think it's a bit too late for Rishi Sunak, to take the gloves off!
Rishi wouldn't know how to put his own gloves on, much less take them off by himself.
The man can't even work a chip and pin device on his own or fill a car with petrol unassisted. 😂
I think Starmer will be appalling, but the Conservative party I joined is gone; if the Tories had not patronised, ignored and taken for granted their members and their voters this wouldn't be happening. The Tories need to be completely deconstructed and rebuilt, if possible; if it is impossible they will be irrelevant forever.
The tory membership were responsible for Truss.
Yeah, yeah, and the sky will fall on your head and the dinosaurs will come back, and the world will end, and…..
Davis yet another complete waste of space!
Behold the awful price of the lies of Brexit
How? When the Conservatives didn't implement it properly. They didn't believe in it. You're being disingenuous or naive.
Translation: waaaahhh waaaahhhh 😢
@@Jay-gr9ij so they shafted the country out of spite?
@@Jay-gr9ij It's like going back in time and having to listen to the edgy 16 year olds, at the school debating club, bleat and bray that... "communism would have worked if only it had been implemented properly!!11" Brexit has been found out by reality. It won't work, can't work and will consume all of those that won't bin it.
None so blind .....
The outright total cheek and delusion of someone who has subjected the economy to the deeply damaging nonsense of Brexit, then Truss etc, telling us of the dangers of Starmer!!! Literally mad.
VOTE REFORM.
This is all getting into Monster Raving Loony territory
Starmer and rayner or the corrupt tories...labour i think
"Socialist" red-baiting.
Please Nigel never compromise with any other party !
The tories are trying to climb Everest in flip flops, no bloody chance.
PM Sunak's leaving D-Day commemorations early, was a grave error, which irked everyone that's British - no matter what their political affiliations.
If he genuinely thinks Keir Starmer is ‘socialism on steroids’ then he must be on something.
If you own shares or a property you’ll be hit, does this man realise how few people of my generation have any property or shares to give a damn about
I found it funny when he said no one who voted for them in 2019 is excited for labour when I literally fall into that camp.
The trouble with the tories...they have cared more about themselves and the image of the tory party.
Than the people who voted for them.
Most politicians just don’t seem to get it. Votes/voters can’t be taken for granted. They have to be earned.
If it was a boxing match the Tories would be throwing the towel in the ring for Sunak.
So in some parallel universe there is more to fear by Starmer than Farage according to these chumps. Unbelieveable.
Socialist government, yes please
Three days later, they are 10-1 down.
If you want a Conservative Government and not a CONservative Government, you have to vote Reform, simple really.👍
They are trying to amplify concerns people might have about some "dangers" of Labour versus a Conservative Party that has demonstrated corruption, prorogued parliament, acted unlawfully, filed in regulating the markets, wants to suspend human rights and has raised taxes on everyday voters to the highest ever level while public services crumble? Really?
Admittedly Starmer is not entertaining like Johson ... but trying to argue about character by contrasting a serious human rights lawyer who is keen on social justice but against reckless spending with a stream of incompetents including a proven liar, a reckless free-marketeer and an an out of touch technocrat? Really? Really, really?
7:36 pretty good way of saying young people have no reason to vote Tory
6-1 down and 3 minutes into extra time. Labour aren't winning, the Conservatives are throwing it away!!!🙄🙄
Reform can save the Conservative Party and save us all from Labour 😂
I thought they were trying to destroy the Conservative Party?
Reform are more conservative than the conservatives,we need reform my god I cannot imagine what will happen to our country at the the hands of Labour hypocrites
@@Royboy50 Conserving means keeping things as they are, while reform means changing them. Do make your mind up. Historically, Labour have restored the economy after the Conservatives have run it into the ground. I wouldn't worry, if I were you.
@@paulinequinton1478 reforming what the conservatives failed to conserve, where you been for 14 years, doh
@@Royboy50 Why don't they call themselves 'Restore', then?
6-1 down? Need to come back? Have a word with Sheffield Wednesday!
All own goals
There was never a good way
Get the Tory’s out out out
6-1? Pray tell what they’ve done that can be described as a “goal” this entire election campaign?
Starmer is so far from being socialist.
Starmer admited he is a socalist thou and a progressive
He is he admited it in a bbc interview
@oldskoolloner He's barely a social democrat. In what world would an Incoming socialist government commit to maintaining the tories fiscal rules? He is no socialist. I could say I have wings, But it doesn't mean I can fly.
“Fear of a socialist government “ or more free market chaos thats delivered no real wage growth in 14 years. The average person has come to the conclusion they have nothing to loose. The Tories are going for the fear factor rather than vision and leadership.
Not socialism! Anything but that
Is this the pathetic quality of person, the Tory party has left to wheel out to talk nonsense?
“Socialist government” What a joke, the current Tories are socialists 🤷🏼♂️
Mud slinging is all Tory’s have left, and it’s a sorry sad look
Hey.... you have forgotten about the spectacle of the PM placing his scrawny limp little wrist on his emaciated hip.
Socalism on steriods, this bloke is comedy gold.
Tory voters moving to Reform UK
If there is a new government in the UK will that help or hinder the Ukraine war effort? (I don't know much about UK politics)
After the election reform and the conservative party might merge together to make a new right-wing conservative party, same old faces 😮
Down 6-1 with 25,000 minutes left to play.
This character has spent the last couple of years presenting on Geebeebies (the unofficial Reform channel). Why is a right wing journalist working for Murdoch interviewing him? Oh yes, of course, sorry.
He is one if the finest anchorperson ❤
It's Andrew Neil's continual support for the Labour party in the left wing "Mail" that has put us in this position.If we get the expected Labour victory all the Tory supporting papers will have to change their tune or lose many readers.
left wing daily mail..? ....never
@@oulton101 Really!
Increase tax on wealth rather than income, sounds reasonable to me. These wealthy people whine and moan and we are to feel sorry for them. Sorry, I for one have had enough.
Andrew, the Euros has started, the election campaign is OVER 😂
Brexit voting Neil gloating about the effects of Brexit on the Tories 😂
The majority of Tories sabboted the Brexit. If it have been done they wouldn't on this miserable situation.
Tories BRINO was never brexit.
The vast majority have decided who they're definitely not voting for. Just not sure which of the other boxes to put the X in.
Deluded
I know loads of people who are going to vote labour
Vote Reform and save us from a hard left Muslim Labour Party.
Vote Reform WAKE UP BRITAIN!!!
Racist
Conservative Reform. Bit of an oxymoron.
I'm only her to find out "What is the 1?"
Reform is the only party with any common sense. I'm voting Reform, as are all my friends and family.
Was the one goal an own goal
If you are thinking of voting labour, then please see 👀 your doctor soon as. 🇬🇧
Leave it there
...with abit of project fear...
What about the Labour manifesto is socialist? We can only but dream of a proper socialist government - even if it’s only for 10 years or so. A much needed course correction
Socialist government? What a muppet 😂
Try adopting some conservative policies for a change
😂
Odds on reform 125/1 yesterday! Odds on reform today 50/1😮 placed my bet yesterday 🎉
Deluded Tories
And about to get half the team sent off. This happens when a team squabbles and backstabs taking their eye off the ball. The last 10 years have been dominated by Tory battles and the country came second. The real rot set in with Johnson and culminated with Truss. These Two had absolutely no idea what to do when they achieved the power they craved. Sunak is just the last minute substitute who scores an own goal.
Basically Tories have moved to the right and have to share the 35% of these voters with Reform. Johnson chucked out all the moderates such as Clark and did not realise that their supporters are now switching to the Liberals and Labour especially in Home Counties . Add Labours, the Liberals and the Greens poll forecast and it’s 60% share of vote , then the SNP and Irish parties add another 5% . That leaves max 35% for the two right wing parties and that’s never enough to win.
I just typed quite a long response to this, which now appears to have disappeared, why would that be ?
I’m guessing this is yet another example of ‘dumb AI’ … or more correctly, ‘Artificial Stupidity’ .. which probably flag certain words without understanding context … not impressive at all
So much copium
Philip Davis comes across as some "None of the above" candidate and who could possibly blame or argue against this sentiment? Increasingly, partisan politics has to be about 'sweating the small stuff' and so my vote will go with my local candidate who has persuaded in most actively and intelligently engaging at local authority level and to better engineer and otherwise promote where it is we are from. No, this is not the incumbent and somewhat 'long in the tooth' gerrymanderer who now hopes to move in 'next door'. In terms of delivering freedom and democracy, honesty and accountability then my recommendation to all would be to vote for the candidate with the best track record in terms of local engagement and promotion. Politics needs to start where it ends. 'Colour' spectrum partisan political affiliation has become some cynical game of chasing rainbows. Hopefully, 'Boris Johnson' has taught our younger demographic that there 'unicorns' don't exist even though this one was once informed to have had 'horn'. As with all 'lamps', politicians burn bright white when powered on. However, they are about as much use as a chocolate fire grate when they have so messed up or otherwise found as some victim of circumstance that people may no longer afford to feed their meter.
I was Labour all my life until Brexit. I've voted Tory in 2 elections now and it did no good. It turned out the Tories had no pro popular-democracy instincts, for controlling mass migration and fighting identity politics (and they sacked those who did have those instincts,) Now they have reverted the leadership appointed nonentity Rishi and the appalling David Cameron (who abandoned ship during the market panic on the morning after the referendum - like the captain of the Costa Concordia.) I see the coming election as one of those rare opportunities for my vote to actually count. Maybe I can contribute to breaking the hopeless current Tory party, and breaking the anti-democratic 2 party duopoly.
He socialist Reno gold yes Thomas. He richer than you Andrew Neill yes. He a friend Thomas.
Weak interview, Andrew let him get away with the socialist remark far too many times
kinda like when andrew lost the game with gb news lol but at least andrew did get the fact he was wrong even if he can't admit it lol
Why no challenge to “socialism on steroids” ?
Rather than the slow creep of socialism via the "Conservatives" ? What a tough choice.