A R160 makes a very rare appearance on the C line. A R179 A train Is also seen departing the station. This set was borrowed off the J/M lines. Recorded 8/26/23
@iNevaan Tho as said before this is temporary plus it won't run everyday likely during weekends, MTA is planning to make the (C) 10 cars sometime in the future.
For everyone replying, Queens Blvd is a line with high ridership, behind the Canarsie and Flushing Line. Therefore it would make more sense for the R211's out of the option order to go to Jamaica Yard. Fleet assignments are based on CBTC installations and fleet age to some extent, with CBTC taking priority. A line like the 8th Avenue A and C trains do have old cars and are in the process of getting CBTC. Therefore, it would be beneficial to get R211 cars. In contrast, you have lines like the Broadway N/W and Q that are using old cars, but are NOT earmarked for CBTC installation. Therefore, it would be unwise to send R211's over to all of these lines. Now you have the open gangway trains. A big increase in space compared to the R160, a third criteria has been added. high ridership. As mentioned before, Queens Boulevard has high ridership and crowding on the E and F routes is prominent. Given this the QBL already has CBTC and these two lines have high ridership, so it makes sense to have R211's go over there, with the R160 cars offloaded onto lower volume lines. It really makes zero sense for train cars of higher capacity to be assigned with lower ridership volumes while high ridership lines get stuck with lower capacity cars. It really doesn't match. By doing the assignments in the way I mentioned, with the R211's also considered for the E and F, things become more efficient. Remember, just because the R211's are replacing the R46 cars DOES not mean that they only have to go to lines with these cars. It is definitely okay to assign these cars to lines that don't even have the old cars like Jamaica and off load the cars from said yard to the yards with older cars.
Exactly. It would only make sense to put R211's on the lines with higher ridership because of the more space capacity. Also, some R160's from Jamacia could be lent to the Broadway lines or the B & D
@@drewrides1073 I was trying to explain that but people are so obsessed with the B and D that think would get R211. But don't realize that R160's ran on the F and M also on 6th Avenue too. The E and F contenders for the R211A/T's. R160's are for lines that have less ridership. Which makes sense for the E and F to release a portion of their R160's elsewhere.
@@CR1CreativeI been saying the same thing too man. Specially when I talk about it on my channel but many people don’t believe it. R211 are for lines with high ridership and CBTC. Which it should go to the E and F and maybe the R. Since the B and D don’t need them as much since R160 like you said runs well at 6th Avenue too. There are too Amy idiots out there with no logic what so even.
@@TransitFans Yeah those idiot people they don't have any sources whatsoever if 6th Avenue had high ridership then it would be the other way around but by their logic they want the R211's on the N, Q and W so badly once again the MTA is not going to put R211's that don't have CBTC and lines with less ridership and part time routes it would be a waste, R160's are more suitable for lines with low ridership like 6th Avenue and Broadway while the R211's are more suitable for lines with CBTC and for lines with high ridership lines like 8th Avenue and Queens Boulevard so it is logical to put factory fresh cars on the (E) and (F) since those two lines have high ridership
Since the M is being Cut off from QBL would it mean that Some R160s from ENY would go to the C temporarily? Cause I heard rumors that the MTA is trying to push for more C trains per hour.
I think it's more likely that these are equipped for use on the M, since that's a line that also runs on Queens Blvd and 6th Ave. But at the end of the day, I believe most of the B division will use the same CBTC system, and I think a major reason they're expanding CBTC to other IND lines after Queens Blvd became the first non-independent corridor is for train reroutes. The glaring exception is the L, so you will never see 8101-8376 outside of Canarsie (except on the J 🤷♂️).
There are some number of sets from the M that are loaned to the C while the M is shortened to 57th Street. I assume they are being used for the mid day service increases, and to potentially sideline the most problematic R46s. By the time they are returned to the M, more R211s should be in service to take over.
666 views. Lol. Still, pretty cool to see the C run with R160’s even if it’s only temporarily. After work on the 63rd Street branch is finished, we may never see R160’s run on the C ever again (unless the MTA were to have it replace the R along QBL as part of de-interlining)
Yeah, since the M is only traveling as far as 57th st 6th Avenue for the next several months, this frees up a few 160a sets that could be used by the C line temporarily. While this service change sucks ass in the worst way, it is necessary. The sad part about this is the TA could have sent the M back up Second Avenue to 96th st during this construction. *(yeah I know, the work includes CBTC overlay And track rebuilding..so as little train traffic as possible is the best option). Too bad there isn't a connection to the Broadway BMT from the Williamsburg Bridge Broadway Brooklyn Elevated line... Would have made the entire point mote. Oh wait a sec.. There Were plans to connect the two lines just after Bowey, at the provision built into the curve! Too bad it will never be built.
If this to 2024 the C can be mostly R160/R179 With some r46 And since the R211 slowly gets more each month the A can be Be mostly R211/R179 with some r46 That Way The Both A C With be Mostly NTTS with some R46
Yes the R160 is back on the C line today!! I’m very happy about this!!!😃😃
I feel like conductor’s like to race each other whenever they’re side by side 😂
I’m a conductor for the MTA, not gonna lie to you a few of us race to see who can close down quicker lol (safely of course)
Motor men
MY CHILDHOOD TRAIN IS BACK
Same xd
R160 (C) are back, Nice.
No it won't because the M is not running on 53rd/QBL until 2024, and this set is from the M. C/M have 8 cars but A has 10 cars so not possible
@iNevaan Tho as said before this is temporary plus it won't run everyday likely during weekends, MTA is planning to make the (C) 10 cars sometime in the future.
The M is gonna be cut off from QBL until 2024, so that probably freed up this R160 for the C.
Srsly?
@@jacoanimationstudio-di7hiStarting Monday
@@jacoanimationstudio-di7hi yes, Track work.
@@Journal_Squareee may as well make the M not run
It’s still possible for the M to go to the yard
I remember seeing R160 4-Car Sets on the C line from 2013-2018, and I rode the 4-Car R160 Sets on the C line when it was assigned to the line.
This is probably gonna be temporary only.
Yea since the J keeps getting disrupted in tha wknd
(C)ool video
For everyone replying, Queens Blvd is a line with high ridership, behind the Canarsie and Flushing Line. Therefore it would make more sense for the R211's out of the option order to go to Jamaica Yard.
Fleet assignments are based on CBTC installations and fleet age to some extent, with CBTC taking priority. A line like the 8th Avenue A and C trains do have old cars and are in the process of getting CBTC. Therefore, it would be beneficial to get R211 cars. In contrast, you have lines like the Broadway N/W and Q that are using old cars, but are NOT earmarked for CBTC installation. Therefore, it would be unwise to send R211's over to all of these lines.
Now you have the open gangway trains. A big increase in space compared to the R160, a third criteria has been added. high ridership. As mentioned before, Queens Boulevard has high ridership and crowding on the E and F routes is prominent. Given this the QBL already has CBTC and these two lines have high ridership, so it makes sense to have R211's go over there, with the R160 cars offloaded onto lower volume lines. It really makes zero sense for train cars of higher capacity to be assigned with lower ridership volumes while high ridership lines get stuck with lower capacity cars. It really doesn't match. By doing the assignments in the way I mentioned, with the R211's also considered for the E and F, things become more efficient.
Remember, just because the R211's are replacing the R46 cars DOES not mean that they only have to go to lines with these cars. It is definitely okay to assign these cars to lines that don't even have the old cars like Jamaica and off load the cars from said yard to the yards with older cars.
Exactly. It would only make sense to put R211's on the lines with higher ridership because of the more space capacity. Also, some R160's from Jamacia could be lent to the Broadway lines or the B & D
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@@drewrides1073
I was trying to explain that but people are so obsessed with the B and D that think would get R211. But don't realize that R160's ran on the F and M also on 6th Avenue too. The E and F contenders for the R211A/T's. R160's are for lines that have less ridership. Which makes sense for the E and F to release a portion of their R160's elsewhere.
@@CR1CreativeI been saying the same thing too man. Specially when I talk about it on my channel but many people don’t believe it. R211 are for lines with high ridership and CBTC. Which it should go to the E and F and maybe the R. Since the B and D don’t need them as much since R160 like you said runs well at 6th Avenue too. There are too Amy idiots out there with no logic what so even.
@@TransitFans
Yeah those idiot people they don't have any sources whatsoever if 6th Avenue had high ridership then it would be the other way around but by their logic they want the R211's on the N, Q and W so badly once again the MTA is not going to put R211's that don't have CBTC and lines with less ridership and part time routes it would be a waste, R160's are more suitable for lines with low ridership like 6th Avenue and Broadway while the R211's are more suitable for lines with CBTC and for lines with high ridership lines like 8th Avenue and Queens Boulevard so it is logical to put factory fresh cars on the (E) and (F) since those two lines have high ridership
Excellent work & congrats on your 15k YT subscribers
I love it when trains race.
YESSS R160 IS BACKKK
YES! A part of my yonger childhood came back! 😃
But probably for temporarily tho.
I remember riding an R160 (C) Train once or twice before
We are BACK baby!
I rlly hope i can get the chance to ride this again
Welcome back R160 C train.
YOOOOOOOO THIS IS SICK IMA GO TO THE C LINE RIGHT NOW
That Was Awesome!!!
Yo that's a rare catch the last time I saw the 160 on the C train was in 2017 and 2018
the good old days are back.
Chris Bradford: Oh my, 2013 again
They should have more of these, ngl.
IM GOING RIGHT NOW NAHHHHHHH R160 C?! I SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN MANHATTAN
what’s the occasion?
I see me in the back
Even with a blindfold on, my eyes are being burned.
Since the M is being Cut off from QBL would it mean that Some R160s from ENY would go to the C temporarily? Cause I heard rumors that the MTA is trying to push for more C trains per hour.
Fresh Pond yard would be at max capacity also
The Childhood that everyone grew up with, has returned
Wow this is nostalgic
Valid catch(es) fr
OMG FOAM FOAM POG
Could this also have been the reason why Wikipedia said that a handful of 4-car R160’s were equipped with CBTC for use on the 8th Avenue Line?
I think it's more likely that these are equipped for use on the M, since that's a line that also runs on Queens Blvd and 6th Ave. But at the end of the day, I believe most of the B division will use the same CBTC system, and I think a major reason they're expanding CBTC to other IND lines after Queens Blvd became the first non-independent corridor is for train reroutes.
The glaring exception is the L, so you will never see 8101-8376 outside of Canarsie (except on the J 🤷♂️).
There are some number of sets from the M that are loaned to the C while the M is shortened to 57th Street. I assume they are being used for the mid day service increases, and to potentially sideline the most problematic R46s. By the time they are returned to the M, more R211s should be in service to take over.
666 views. Lol.
Still, pretty cool to see the C run with R160’s even if it’s only temporarily.
After work on the 63rd Street branch is finished, we may never see R160’s run on the C ever again (unless the MTA were to have it replace the R along QBL as part of de-interlining)
# F O A M
Was this only for 1 day?
i’ve been seeing r160 c’s a lot lately
Bro I forgot about those new C trains
I remember getting mad when a r32 showed up versus this. To be fair I was younger.
i saw an r160 a train yesterday!! in manhattan while riding the e
It’s back! For now
R160 C train are back for good?
No
Wait I didn’t even know they stop serving the C for a while
Yeah, since the M is only traveling as far as 57th st 6th Avenue for the next several months, this frees up a few 160a sets that could be used by the C line temporarily.
While this service change sucks ass in the worst way, it is necessary.
The sad part about this is the TA could have sent the M back up Second Avenue to 96th st during this construction. *(yeah I know, the work includes CBTC overlay And track rebuilding..so as little train traffic as possible is the best option).
Too bad there isn't a connection to the Broadway BMT from the Williamsburg Bridge Broadway Brooklyn Elevated line...
Would have made the entire point mote.
Oh wait a sec.. There Were plans to connect the two lines just after Bowey, at the provision built into the curve!
Too bad it will never be built.
This is something great for the C line having another NTT. Even though is not permanent but it help out a bit.
Any known reason for this and any news on how long this will last?
It's because the M is not running on 53rd/QBL until 2024 so some sets are going to the C for extra service
@@iNevaan that's what I figured but is there any idea on how long it'll last?
@@subwayfan200 Until the M's back on 53rd
Ain’t no way
hd rare
If this to 2024 the C can be mostly R160/R179 With some r46
And since the R211 slowly gets more each month the A can be Be mostly R211/R179 with some r46
That Way The Both A C With be Mostly NTTS with some R46
i ride an r160 C train before
Why was it borrowed off the J/M?
Extra service, also M isnt running on 53rd/qbl until 2024, so there is extra sets
This was unexpected once i heard the news on discord.
It's Not 2015
I Know but they came back
R32 will be in service on A and C line on Monday?
Wait what!!!