Thank you for making more than one language version, thats a lot of work I'm sure. Your level of detail is professional level, this channel is criminally under viewed. Is it because the crowd of people that care about Xeon's or actually know about/appreciate them is limited?
Thank you very much for the support. My channel is growing, but slower than I would hope for. There are multiple different factors which contribute to this, many people are searching for entertainment while I am making pure technical videos, also Xeon community is much smaller compared to the average number of gamers and PC enthusiasts.
@@Miyconst Xeon community would be larger if they didn't remove Xeon cpu support from desktop chipsets. Now C422 and W480 motherboards are too expensive and pointless for most users.
looks like 10400 is value king here. I hope the Chinese come out with x299 clones soon, 7800x and 7820x and entry level Xeon-W are quite cheap but the motherboard cost is much too high.
Hey Miyconst, been watching your content for a while. Your videos helped me understand most of this Chinese server parts shenanigans, right after I bought a cheap kit on Ali by impulse, but I was lucky enough that the parts I got were at least recommended (Huananzhi x99-8M-F, E5 2640 v3, 2x8GB ECC 2133Mhz) XD. It's been 4 months of happiness with this PC, and I decided only recently to do the Turbo Unlock thing. Of course I used your app to do so, but got extremely confused by the "undervoltage" thing. Ended up doing the -50/50mv option, and it was successful, with the only side effect being around an extra 5~10°C on the CPU under stress (would peak at 51~52°C before). The only mention specifically for this CPU about undervoltage I saw on the internet was it could go under 90mv, though I'm wondering: is it safe to do so now? Not that I'm really concerned with lowering the temperatures, though the power supply I'm running this PC with is not really the most recommended thing ever (600W, 70% efficiency, no PFC), with a GTX 960 4GB that I just got. Greetings from Brazil!
Hi there! -50mv is a good default value for most of the V3 Xeons, but if you are feeling like tweaking even more, you can try -70 or even -90, but there is no guarantee that your CPU will be able to hold it. The gaming performance won't change much, thus I would just stick with -50mv if it works well for you.
@@CatSovietski Fiz Turbo Unlock também, obrigando todos os núcleos a trabalharem na velocidade máxima quase o tempo todo, daí por isso aumentou... Antes o máximo era 2.8Ghz em todos os núcleos, agora é 3.4Ghz.
2690v3 DDR4 vs 2678v3 2133mhz DDR3 would be an interesting shoot-out, just checking your previous benchmarks on the 2678v3 to see how they compare. Cheers!
So far only Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-T8 are able to run DDR3-2133, the other motherboards are limited to DDR3-1866, but the results will be very similar, depends on how tight you can tighten the timing on both systems.
@@Miyconst Yes I would expect ~10% variation at best in gaming. I've got 10-11-11-28 primary timings at 2133mhz ECC DDR3 on my 2678v3 which I'm happy with, I doubt I could improve the timings much? Especially as I'm using 8x8GB modules.
I have a pair of these exact xeons in my Z840. They do admirably. They only have issues with their low clock speeds... they are more than enough to handle most games at reasonable settings. I use mine in tandem with a 3060 12GB and am having a blast. Thanks for the comparison video.
Thanks for bringing up this video, intel i5 10400f offers great value if you want to build budget oriented gaming system and it's worth noting that it support maximum of 2666mhz memory so you can save some chucks by buying a 2666mhz ram kit than high frequency as we know this cpu not gonna utilize it, also 2666hz ram kit is cheaper compare to higher frequency kit (depends upon region) and you can spend those chucks in Storage or GPU etc.
DDR4-2666 is the limit on cheap H410 / B460 motherboards, with Z490 / B560 / Z590 you can go much higher, in this video I tested DDR4-3466, which is significantly better than DDR4-2666.
Thank You for the three CPU comparisons, Mika . ,,Always have wondered how the E5 chips,,,do compare to the I5 generation of chips. The newer Dell mini tower optiplexes can be bought fairly cheap that are containing the I5-10400F cpu's .Think that is the route im going,,versus buying one of the X-99 /E5 combo kits from Aliexpress. I like building on pieces but,,,always like to get the cheapest setup,,,,when finished,,,with the build,,regardless what route needs to be taken, Thanks again.
I bought a E5 2640 v3 to play DCS world which is a non multicore optimized game (I think it only uses two threads). But I discovered an application called Process Lasso which seems to set a thread management intermediate layer between an application and the cpu. Now when I play DCS it’s a different experience as it uses all the threads that are requiered. I’m just writting this just in case you thought to check it. Thank you for your videos it helped a lot when I had to buy a new computer
@@ThePudgeyPooper at the time of recovering memory yes but not too much regarding multithread. If the application doesnt use multithreading that’s all. But I’ve been using it all this time day after day and happy with it (playing DCS and recovering memory from time to time and it worths)
I noticed that the e5-2690 v4 I picked up, to use on an old dell workstation, was stuttering on occasion. My first guess was that there was an issue with power delivery. The fact that you mentioned the 2690 v3 might need better vrms made me more confident in that assessment. So I've decided to try disabling four of my cores for now, hoping it may require less power and even things out. I don't think I need all of the cores and I get to keep all of the beefy 35 mb of l3 cache. I also heard that the v4 series has separate rings for the first 10 cores and a separate ring for the remaining 4. So I wonder if disabling the cores on the 2nd ring will have any additional effect. Between your breakdown of the this generation of cpus and chipsets and Hardware Unboxed's video on the benefits of large l3 caches, I hope I'm onto something. The cpu feels like it's so close to being tuned properly for my use case.
Xeon E5 V4 CPUs do not support the Turbo-Boost Unlocking hack, thus the CPU clock frequency drops when multiple cores are used, this could cause the stutters. You can use MSI Afterburner to monitor your CPU behavior when the stutters happen, this could help isolate the issue.
@@Miyconst That makes sense and I forgot that MSI afterburner gives detailed cpu info. I will say that I've noticed an noticeable improvement with the 4 cores disabled. Not sure why and maybe it's just a coincidence. I might turn them back on after a bit and use Afterburner to compare turbo behavior. I prefer reproducable results, lol. Thank you!
@@Miyconst So I ended up figuring out the issue and it was far simpler than anything I was trying with the cpu. It seemed I was using my memory in synchronous mode and switching to asynchronous seems to have relieved all of the stuttering. AIDA 64 seemed to show massive gains in the l1 and l2 cache data rates and small gains in l3 when I switched to asynchronous. I also reenabled all of my cores and still haven't seen any stuttering. As far as I could tell, my ram was too slow for the cpu and running in asynchronous allows the cpu to boost higher and for longer. This also explains why I saw the problems get worse back when I doubled my ram capacity. Looking at the cpu usage now also show far more stable usage. Before I saw constant spikes and dips. After switching to asynchronous, cpu usage became flat as a pancake.
To bad that you don't show the settings of the game. I have an Xeon E5-2690 v4 and a Radeon RX 6650 XT. I've got about 60 FPS in RDR 2 on High / Ultra Settings with activated FSR2, so i assume you play on medium details.
Your videos are really helpful. I am usually confused when choosing between xeon cpus so can u pls tell me which will you recommend xeon e5 2697 v4 or 2699 v3 or 2673 v4 or 2690 v4? I just need to use it for simple programming and machine learning and I am on a tight budget so I cant afford to have ryzen 5600 etc...
Thank you very much, I'm from Brazil and your videos have cleared many of my doubts, being the only channel with complete content and solving all my doubts. Thank you very much for your incredible work, congratulations. 😁
Hi Miyconst, nice video and nice content. I have recently adquired a Huananzhi x99-TF pair with a Xeon E5 2690 V3, it is safe to apply the modification to the bios v3_payne_50_50.ffs for the x99-F8 with your software?
im probably gonna be using the xeon as a virtual gaming machine with a rx 580 so i dont think there will be any bottlenecks if this is the performance with a 6800 xt.
@@Miyconst Hey, recently in China's market a rare model E5-2666 v3 has dropped very cheap (lower than 50$), and it's confirmed that support DDR3, with 10 cores 3.5G (also 135W TDP), it may be the best gaming CPU in X99.
Amazing video! thanks a lot! and yes we/me are here for the PC parts details and not for ur amazing face. I more like the tech videos without facecam. is irritate me too often in benchmarks. keep up the great work forever homie u are and do ur videos and also tech tips in ur discord and other pages and programs. thumbs up & sub and ring the bell and share with ur friends and family hype @everyone!!! he deserves it very much
This was a great video idea and awesome execution!!! As always - keep up the great work my man!!! BTW - I did a Star Wars Build and video on the X5820K - I got a really amazing deal on a Gigabyte X99-UD4 board for $100!!!! I sold the system but used a cheap X99 Board - I'm keeping that UD4 for future projects. You should check it out if you have time bro! Take Care!
Great job there! It seems like the ultra-budget builds are slowly moving away from the budget territory. Do you think we could connect somehow, sometimes I have some excessive hardware and could sell it cheaply or even donate for the ultra-budget builds.
@@Miyconst Shame! So onlyway to run win11 is iommu gpu passthrough virtual machine. Let's hope we get unofficial patch to enable updates on win11 when running old xeon systems. Microsoft could just add some kind of warning about "security".
@@vicod3161I do single gpu passthrough since I only have one gpu on my system. It hooks my gpu from my Linux host to Windows guest virtual machine on the fly and leaves Linux (in this case Manjaro KDE) headless while vm is running. This is most complicated to do because configuration changes depending on hardware. Here is video tutorial about it watch?v=eTX10QlFJ6c. I would recommend to learn about virtual machines and use Linux on spare laptop before jumping in head first. This was the most fun I had since I build my first pc. Running Windows in vm has slight overhead but you can restore vm image from backups if Windows Update fails to install.
I understand that you are trying to make a compromise solution when it comes to the price-performance ratio, but I know for a fact that the Chinese boards cannot, sometimes not even close, achieve the maximum performance of the components, especially the CPU and RAM. I see that your timing for the ram is 2133 cl11, I think you would have a significantly different result if you had a higher frequency ram and a different board. I've tested numerous Xeon processors, even the ES models, sometimes they had terrible results on HUANANZHI or Jingsha X99 motherboards, not so much for the performance of the processor as for the RAM.
I think you have missed that all E5-2600 V3 / V4 CPUs are fully locked for overclocking. Only those rare and extremely expensive boards with an external memory clocker can go higher than DDR4-2133. Regarding the Chinese boards - yes, many of them are complete trash but not all, and that's why I test them.
@@Miyconst On the contrary, I know all that, here is an example, we made several systems for the company, there was a huge difference between the system that had a Xeon e5 2698 V3 processor and was on an Asrock X99 board with 4x 16 gb ram and the Xeon E5 2696 V3 processor that was on the HUANANZHI board in the same constellation of ram memory and at the same frequency 2400 mhz. So even though the processor had four threads less, it achieved better results even in synthetic tests for ram memory than the one with 18 cores.
It's very hard for me to comment on the specified comparison as I have no input and what and how was measured but I feel like there is something wrong. Non of the E5-2600 V3 CPUs support DDR4-2400, DDR4-2133 is the max speed, some are limited to DDR4-1866.
@@Miyconst It is on Intels official site, of course, there's always the possibility that they're working on a higher frequency, i sold those systems a long time ago so I can't take a screenshot, if you are able you can find data from people who did specific systems on the internet.
It's only possible with BCLK overclocking, these Xeons are locked for memory or CPU clock overclocking. If you have any links to any results - send them my way via discord.
Hello guys! Any advice on cheap vgas on aliexpress (other than keeping distance from them) ? My 980gtx just died and my budget for a replacement is below usd200
It really makes you wonder if the high core/thread count will help the xeon 2690 age well since we are seeing more and more studios implement better multicore optimization in their games.
I literally just upgraded to the V1 e5 - 2690 from a 1620. Have paired with a 1080, and it's surprisingly a beast. Can play anything, and VR no issues.
@Miyconst yea, but the 1620 ran better than the I5-4590 i was using at the time lol so I ran with it for a bit. Like I said, tho, I upgraded to the E5-2690, so I'm good right now :)
Can you compile a chart of system Wattage for all the different CPUs you have tested and post it on your blog? Thanks for all you do. I wouldn't mind if you dub over your Russian videos in English instead of re-filming, if that means you are able to make more content that is convenient. Whatever you need to do to make content easier.
Sorry, I don't think that making such a common chart would be possible because the testing conditions are not always 1:1. For example, with the recent ACV update I have spotted an increase in the power consumption due to higher CPU/GPU utilization. Anyway, I am working on a project where everyone could browse my test result numbers. P.S. I don't make Russian videos, it is Ukrainian.
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Thank you for making more than one language version, thats a lot of work I'm sure. Your level of detail is professional level, this channel is criminally under viewed. Is it because the crowd of people that care about Xeon's or actually know about/appreciate them is limited?
Thank you very much for the support. My channel is growing, but slower than I would hope for. There are multiple different factors which contribute to this, many people are searching for entertainment while I am making pure technical videos, also Xeon community is much smaller compared to the average number of gamers and PC enthusiasts.
@@Miyconst Xeon community would be larger if they didn't remove Xeon cpu support from desktop chipsets. Now C422 and W480 motherboards are too expensive and pointless for most users.
@Defqon1 that's true. Intel is using its anti-consumer and anti-competitive practices as usual.
looks like 10400 is value king here. I hope the Chinese come out with x299 clones soon, 7800x and 7820x and entry level Xeon-W are quite cheap but the motherboard cost is much too high.
Yup, Core i5-10400F is an awesome value CPU, I have assembled multiple rigs with it, all customers are very satisfied.
Hey Miyconst, been watching your content for a while. Your videos helped me understand most of this Chinese server parts shenanigans, right after I bought a cheap kit on Ali by impulse, but I was lucky enough that the parts I got were at least recommended (Huananzhi x99-8M-F, E5 2640 v3, 2x8GB ECC 2133Mhz) XD. It's been 4 months of happiness with this PC, and I decided only recently to do the Turbo Unlock thing. Of course I used your app to do so, but got extremely confused by the "undervoltage" thing. Ended up doing the -50/50mv option, and it was successful, with the only side effect being around an extra 5~10°C on the CPU under stress (would peak at 51~52°C before). The only mention specifically for this CPU about undervoltage I saw on the internet was it could go under 90mv, though I'm wondering: is it safe to do so now? Not that I'm really concerned with lowering the temperatures, though the power supply I'm running this PC with is not really the most recommended thing ever (600W, 70% efficiency, no PFC), with a GTX 960 4GB that I just got. Greetings from Brazil!
Hi there! -50mv is a good default value for most of the V3 Xeons, but if you are feeling like tweaking even more, you can try -70 or even -90, but there is no guarantee that your CPU will be able to hold it. The gaming performance won't change much, thus I would just stick with -50mv if it works well for you.
Pera, cê fez undervolt e a temperatura subiu? Wat
@@CatSovietski Fiz Turbo Unlock também, obrigando todos os núcleos a trabalharem na velocidade máxima quase o tempo todo, daí por isso aumentou... Antes o máximo era 2.8Ghz em todos os núcleos, agora é 3.4Ghz.
@@CatSovietski yes, Turbo-Boost Unlocked Xeon V3 maintain higher clock frequency, thus the temp spike.
It's nuts how well Skylake (10400) keeps up into the 2020s
I followed you after this vid, you deserve millons of subs man, I swear this level of content is amazing, keep it up
Thank you for the support, it's really appreciated.
@@MiyconstI didn't realize I have wrote I instead of you, XD
Happens 😁😁.
broo you dont know how much it helps having a general idea of how fast a xeon is if you could do this more in the future that would be awesome
2690v3 DDR4 vs 2678v3 2133mhz DDR3 would be an interesting shoot-out, just checking your previous benchmarks on the 2678v3 to see how they compare. Cheers!
So far only Huananzhi X99-TF / X99-T8 are able to run DDR3-2133, the other motherboards are limited to DDR3-1866, but the results will be very similar, depends on how tight you can tighten the timing on both systems.
@@Miyconst Yes I would expect ~10% variation at best in gaming. I've got 10-11-11-28 primary timings at 2133mhz ECC DDR3 on my 2678v3 which I'm happy with, I doubt I could improve the timings much? Especially as I'm using 8x8GB modules.
Yes, your timings are already very good, you can try to tighten the rest of the values, but don't expect too much of an improvement.
I bought a x79 based system from Aliexpress by watching your videos. I am very pleased. Greetings from Turkey. I love watching your videos.
Which CPU have you got for your system?
@@Miyconst E5 2689 CPU i choosed.
Good option, E5-2689 is still very capable for its money.
I have a pair of these exact xeons in my Z840. They do admirably. They only have issues with their low clock speeds... they are more than enough to handle most games at reasonable settings. I use mine in tandem with a 3060 12GB and am having a blast. Thanks for the comparison video.
Very comprehensive and helpful benchmarking!
Thanks for bringing up this video, intel i5 10400f offers great value if you want to build budget oriented gaming system and it's worth noting that it support maximum of 2666mhz memory so you can save some chucks by buying a 2666mhz ram kit than high frequency as we know this cpu not gonna utilize it, also 2666hz ram kit is cheaper compare to higher frequency kit (depends upon region) and you can spend those chucks in Storage or GPU etc.
DDR4-2666 is the limit on cheap H410 / B460 motherboards, with Z490 / B560 / Z590 you can go much higher, in this video I tested DDR4-3466, which is significantly better than DDR4-2666.
But on intel ark website they said it support maximum 2666mhz but if it support higher with z490/z590 that's good anyway
Nice video! I just were listening, it is good you are commenting all the stuff, it seems xeon is nice buget cpu, good to have that choice
Thank you very much for the very well explained and detailed video, it helped me a lot. Success for you.
Thank You for the three CPU comparisons, Mika . ,,Always have wondered how the E5 chips,,,do compare to the I5 generation of chips. The newer Dell mini tower optiplexes can be bought fairly cheap that are containing the I5-10400F cpu's .Think that is the route im going,,versus buying one of the X-99 /E5 combo kits from Aliexpress. I like building on pieces but,,,always like to get the cheapest setup,,,,when finished,,,with the build,,regardless what route needs to be taken, Thanks again.
想看关于ECC内存条的测试视频，因为XEON处理器使用ECC内存条是在合适不过的了
Дякую за відео!
Muito bom o teste! Bem detalhado e completo! ❤
Cool! Bro, thanks for the video!
I bought a E5 2640 v3 to play DCS world which is a non multicore optimized game (I think it only uses two threads).
But I discovered an application called Process Lasso which seems to set a thread management intermediate layer between an application and the cpu. Now when I play DCS it’s a different experience as it uses all the threads that are requiered.
I’m just writting this just in case you thought to check it.
Thank you for your videos it helped a lot when I had to buy a new computer
Thank you for the support and info, I am going to check if Process Lasso actually provides any significant impact.
Did Process Lasso benefit at all?
@@ThePudgeyPooper at the time of recovering memory yes but not too much regarding multithread. If the application doesnt use multithreading that’s all. But I’ve been using it all this time day after day and happy with it (playing DCS and recovering memory from time to time and it worths)
I noticed that the e5-2690 v4 I picked up, to use on an old dell workstation, was stuttering on occasion. My first guess was that there was an issue with power delivery. The fact that you mentioned the 2690 v3 might need better vrms made me more confident in that assessment.
So I've decided to try disabling four of my cores for now, hoping it may require less power and even things out. I don't think I need all of the cores and I get to keep all of the beefy 35 mb of l3 cache.
I also heard that the v4 series has separate rings for the first 10 cores and a separate ring for the remaining 4. So I wonder if disabling the cores on the 2nd ring will have any additional effect.
Between your breakdown of the this generation of cpus and chipsets and Hardware Unboxed's video on the benefits of large l3 caches, I hope I'm onto something. The cpu feels like it's so close to being tuned properly for my use case.
Xeon E5 V4 CPUs do not support the Turbo-Boost Unlocking hack, thus the CPU clock frequency drops when multiple cores are used, this could cause the stutters. You can use MSI Afterburner to monitor your CPU behavior when the stutters happen, this could help isolate the issue.
@@Miyconst That makes sense and I forgot that MSI afterburner gives detailed cpu info. I will say that I've noticed an noticeable improvement with the 4 cores disabled. Not sure why and maybe it's just a coincidence. I might turn them back on after a bit and use Afterburner to compare turbo behavior. I prefer reproducable results, lol. Thank you!
@@beansnrice321 another option to try would be disabling two cores and Hyper Threading, so it will be 12 Cores and 12 Threads.
@@Miyconst So I ended up figuring out the issue and it was far simpler than anything I was trying with the cpu.
It seemed I was using my memory in synchronous mode and switching to asynchronous seems to have relieved all of the stuttering. AIDA 64 seemed to show massive gains in the l1 and l2 cache data rates and small gains in l3 when I switched to asynchronous. I also reenabled all of my cores and still haven't seen any stuttering.
As far as I could tell, my ram was too slow for the cpu and running in asynchronous allows the cpu to boost higher and for longer. This also explains why I saw the problems get worse back when I doubled my ram capacity.
Looking at the cpu usage now also show far more stable usage. Before I saw constant spikes and dips. After switching to asynchronous, cpu usage became flat as a pancake.
@@beansnrice321 thanks for the info!
To bad that you don't show the settings of the game. I have an Xeon E5-2690 v4 and a Radeon RX 6650 XT. I've got about 60 FPS in RDR 2 on High / Ultra Settings with activated FSR2, so i assume you play on medium details.
Your videos are really helpful. I am usually confused when choosing between xeon cpus so can u pls tell me which will you recommend xeon e5 2697 v4 or 2699 v3 or 2673 v4 or 2690 v4? I just need to use it for simple programming and machine learning and I am on a tight budget so I cant afford to have ryzen 5600 etc...
I am currently testing 8 different V4 Xeons and the video should be available this week but if you don't want to wait, I can recommend E5-2690 V4.
@Miyconst Thanks ❤
Thank you very much, I'm from Brazil and your videos have cleared many of my doubts, being the only channel with complete content and solving all my doubts. Thank you very much for your incredible work, congratulations. 😁
Скажите а как Зеон 2690в3 будет для стриминга на Ютуб через Обс в 1080,это ведь не такая сложная по сути задача?
What would be the best X99 M-ATX board on Aliexpress right now, in your opinion?
Huananzhi X99-ZD4 is the best mATX board from AliExpress so far.
Hi Miyconst, nice video and nice content. I have recently adquired a Huananzhi x99-TF pair with a Xeon E5 2690 V3, it is safe to apply the modification to the bios v3_payne_50_50.ffs for the x99-F8 with your software?
Hi David. Yes, it should be safe. I have tested a couple of E5-2690 V3 CPUs, and all of them were fine with -70/50/50, thus -50/50 should be safe.
@@Miyconst Thank you Miyconst, i'll try that bios modification. Keep it up with the nice content.
ima get the xeon, cuz it costs 17 USD rn
thankyou great video answered majority what i couldnt just read while searching goolge !
im probably gonna be using the xeon as a virtual gaming machine with a rx 580 so i dont think there will be any bottlenecks if this is the performance with a 6800 xt.
2690V3 has higher TDP=135W so it's possible to unlock all cores 3.5G (2678V3 3.3G TDP=120W)
120 Watt TDP is enough to hold 3.3 GHz in all games, so the TDP does not limit either of these CPUs.
@@Miyconst Hey, recently in China's market a rare model E5-2666 v3 has dropped very cheap (lower than 50$), and it's confirmed that support DDR3, with 10 cores 3.5G (also 135W TDP), it may be the best gaming CPU in X99.
@@xjsabcd2947 thanks for the hint, this E5-2666 V3 certainly looks interesting!
Amazing video! thanks a lot! and yes we/me are here for the PC parts details and not for ur amazing face. I more like the tech videos without facecam. is irritate me too often in benchmarks. keep up the great work forever homie u are and do ur videos and also tech tips in ur discord and other pages and programs. thumbs up & sub and ring the bell and share with ur friends and family hype @everyone!!! he deserves it very much
im here for miyconst face..i wanna see his new haircut :D
:D, shall I start to cut my hair the same style every time?
I saw that you couldn't use MSI Afterburn in some games. Did you try to add the game executable on Riva Tuner? Maybe it will solve the problem.
Yes, I have tried, but it didn't help.
bought a xeon e5 2690 v3, for 30€, the cost its so stupid it was the most worthy for me
What motherboard did you use with it
I miss the cat in your videos.
It's hard to co-op with the cat, sometimes he is coming and demanding to be recorded, sometimes it's impossible to make him stay under the camera. 😀😀
@@Miyconst you should bribe him with food, it always works on my ones lol
@@Vili69420 does not work with mine, when he is dedicated towards something he ignores even the best treats.
3:02 what’s the fastest one I could get in a bit confused
Hello, what GPU should be paired with e5 2690 for gaming?
It really depends on what games you play, what resolution, what settings, in general, RX 6700XT or RTX 3060 Ti would be a good match.
I would be playing warzone cyberpunk Assassin's Creed valhala odyssey at 1440 and the new upcoming rpg's, thank you for the advice
Very good review
What is best x99 tf vs f8?
What can be the consequences of running the e5-2690 v3 with a cheap motherboard?
The motherboard dies. That's it.
I have an i7 3770. Is a good improvement going to xeon 2690v3?
Yes, it will be a substantial upgrade, but mostly depends on your GPU and games you play.
GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS CAN U COMPARE IT AGAINST QTJ1
There is already a comparison against QQLS, which is just a tiny bit slower than QTJ1. ruclips.net/video/yznkGphn4Ec/видео.html
@@Miyconst thanks
What do u think is ryzen 7 3700x faster or QTJ1 in games
@@hamadnazir2848 QTJ1 is faster if you mount it on a decent motherboard, overclock RAM and tighten the timings.
@@Miyconst what mobo do u suggest for best performance out of Qtj1
Anything with decent VRM, for example AsRock B365 Pro4 is a good budget option, but don't expect to break overclocking world records.
This was a great video idea and awesome execution!!! As always - keep up the great work my man!!! BTW - I did a Star Wars Build and video on the X5820K - I got a really amazing deal on a Gigabyte X99-UD4 board for $100!!!! I sold the system but used a cheap X99 Board - I'm keeping that UD4 for future projects. You should check it out if you have time bro! Take Care!
Great job there! It seems like the ultra-budget builds are slowly moving away from the budget territory. Do you think we could connect somehow, sometimes I have some excessive hardware and could sell it cheaply or even donate for the ultra-budget builds.
thanks you :)
hi, can you recommend a mobo x99 matx to handle this xeon unlocked?
EVGA X99 Micro.
i have an 2680 v3, is there a big difference with 2690 v3?
No, not much. E5-2680 V3 has the same 12 Cores, 24 Threads, but the max turbo frequency is 3.3 GHz instead of 3.5 GHz.
ryzen 5600 is very good for games and cheap... i'm sold one of my xeons and i'll sell the other one. those were good for a long time, but not anymore
Any x99 boards with Secureboot or TPM 2.0/1.2 support?
So far I have not got a single Chinese X99 motherboard with TPM support.
@@Miyconst Shame! So onlyway to run win11 is iommu gpu passthrough virtual machine. Let's hope we get unofficial patch to enable updates on win11 when running old xeon systems. Microsoft could just add some kind of warning about "security".
@@Masaliantiikeri can you tell something more about PCI pastrought on win 11, or have you any link ? I didn't hear about it before
@@vicod3161I do single gpu passthrough since I only have one gpu on my system. It hooks my gpu from my Linux host to Windows guest virtual machine on the fly and leaves Linux (in this case Manjaro KDE) headless while vm is running. This is most complicated to do because configuration changes depending on hardware. Here is video tutorial about it watch?v=eTX10QlFJ6c. I would recommend to learn about virtual machines and use Linux on spare laptop before jumping in head first. This was the most fun I had since I build my first pc. Running Windows in vm has slight overhead but you can restore vm image from backups if Windows Update fails to install.
I understand that you are trying to make a compromise solution when it comes to the price-performance ratio, but I know for a fact that the Chinese boards cannot, sometimes not even close, achieve the maximum performance of the components, especially the CPU and RAM. I see that your timing for the ram is 2133 cl11, I think you would have a significantly different result if you had a higher frequency ram and a different board. I've tested numerous Xeon processors, even the ES models, sometimes they had terrible results on HUANANZHI or Jingsha X99 motherboards, not so much for the performance of the processor as for the RAM.
I think you have missed that all E5-2600 V3 / V4 CPUs are fully locked for overclocking. Only those rare and extremely expensive boards with an external memory clocker can go higher than DDR4-2133. Regarding the Chinese boards - yes, many of them are complete trash but not all, and that's why I test them.
@@Miyconst On the contrary, I know all that, here is an example, we made several systems for the company, there was a huge difference between the system that had a Xeon e5 2698 V3 processor and was on an Asrock X99 board with 4x 16 gb ram and the Xeon E5 2696 V3 processor that was on the HUANANZHI board in the same constellation of ram memory and at the same frequency 2400 mhz. So even though the processor had four threads less, it achieved better results even in synthetic tests for ram memory than the one with 18 cores.
It's very hard for me to comment on the specified comparison as I have no input and what and how was measured but I feel like there is something wrong. Non of the E5-2600 V3 CPUs support DDR4-2400, DDR4-2133 is the max speed, some are limited to DDR4-1866.
@@Miyconst It is on Intels official site, of course, there's always the possibility that they're working on a higher frequency, i sold those systems a long time ago so I can't take a screenshot, if you are able you can find data from people who did specific systems on the internet.
It's only possible with BCLK overclocking, these Xeons are locked for memory or CPU clock overclocking. If you have any links to any results - send them my way via discord.
2697 v3? Vs 2690v4
It depends on the task and whether you plan to implement Turbo-Boost unlock. Personally I would go with E5-2697 V3 and TU.
@@Miyconst next video? I5 7500 3?
I have already tested E5-2698 V3 and E5-2680 V4, E5-2697 V3 and E5-2690 V4 might be tested if someone provides these CPUs.
@@Miyconst una pregunta que gráfica me recomiendas 4k para 2690v4?
How does the Xeon do so well?
E5-2690 V3 has lots of cache and that helps in games.
E5 2690 v3 unlock boost?
Yes.
what is good cpu without turbo boost and have many cores for gaming streaming i dont care about high fps for me 100+++ good
Core i5-12600(k).
Hello guys! Any advice on cheap vgas on aliexpress (other than keeping distance from them) ? My 980gtx just died and my budget for a replacement is below usd200
I really doubt that you will be able to find anything decent on AliExpress for this price.
And price of xeon is seriously good
It really makes you wonder if the high core/thread count will help the xeon 2690 age well since we are seeing more and more studios implement better multicore optimization in their games.
Could be, but by the time this aging makes any sense both of the CPUs will be heavily outdated.
I literally just upgraded to the V1 e5 - 2690 from a 1620. Have paired with a 1080, and it's surprisingly a beast. Can play anything, and VR no issues.
@@TTBUG E5-1620 without overclocking is pathetic, upgrade to basically anything will provide big performance boost.
@Miyconst yea, but the 1620 ran better than the I5-4590 i was using at the time lol so I ran with it for a bit. Like I said, tho, I upgraded to the E5-2690, so I'm good right now :)
2690v3 HT off 105 watt, vrm 61 / +10fps
Vou pegar o e5 2680 v4
"Core i5-10400 goes..."
but in the test 10400F.
Intel Core i5-10400F is identical to i5-10400, the only difference is that i5-10400F has disabled iGPU, CPU itself performs exactly the same.
I think gta 4 could be an interesting part of these videos
GTA 4 is even older than GTX 5, I don't think I will test it, but you never know. Thank you for the support.
What happened to your face dude
😁😁 My face is alright, but my recording setup is kinda messed up at the moment.
No your face is important 😂 bring it back please.
Okay, I will search for it. 😃😃
More core, more electricity
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e5 2690 v4 vs r5 5600
Ryzen is the obvious winner.
Can you compile a chart of system Wattage for all the different CPUs you have tested and post it on your blog?
Thanks for all you do. I wouldn't mind if you dub over your Russian videos in English instead of re-filming, if that means you are able to make more content that is convenient. Whatever you need to do to make content easier.
Sorry, I don't think that making such a common chart would be possible because the testing conditions are not always 1:1. For example, with the recent ACV update I have spotted an increase in the power consumption due to higher CPU/GPU utilization. Anyway, I am working on a project where everyone could browse my test result numbers.
P.S. I don't make Russian videos, it is Ukrainian.