Are MSATA SSDs Pointless?
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- Опубликовано: 9 мар 2018
- MSATA drives have been around for some time but are they pointless in 2018?
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5:56 "even if your computer came with a laptop"
b i g b r a i n
lololol
mSATA are as good as the regular SSD. I just migrated my operating system from 4tb HDD to 1tb mSATA, and now the 4TB HDD is serving as auxiliary storage.
Asus K401U.
Factory 24Gb mSATA was swapped to a KingSpec 248Gb mSATA (from ebay).
Win10 successfully installed on it and now its booting fast like hell. Plus we still have 1Tb HDD for data storage. I highly recommend it for everybody, mSATA is a great thing in laptops. And the cost was approx. 50USD.
My Samsung mSata has windows 10 on it and it takes me about 25 seconds to boot, sometimes a little bit quicker. I recently changed some of the background processes for certain programs to boot up after I've logged in. I think the fastest I ever got was 13 seconds.
Definitely worth it, my gaming laptop has a M.2 NVMe SSD slot so I got a Corsair Force MP510 256GB M.2 NVMe SSD and it boots up within 10 seconds, plus I still have my 1TB HDD! My older Dell Inspiron 14 7437 has an mSATA 32GB SSD and I'm thinking of installing a mSATA Kingston 256GB SSD and keep the 500GB HDD so it gets a similar treatment to my gaming laptop, that way I could either give it to my family member or sell it for a better resale value as it has an Intel Core i7 so it has potential to last another good 4-5 years.
Thank you for actually showing what an mSATA is!
I'm going to have to re-open my laptop soon (I can hear the fan, means I need to clean it) and I thought, hey I should put an SSD in it! But all the result I got where M.2, so much so that I started thinking that they were supposed to be mSATA.
Thanks for this video. I recently added 3 Samsung M.2 1TB NVMe PCI-e 3.0 SSDs to my Desktop as part of a major upgrade. The speeds are amazing. However I have a 2014 HP Laptop that doesn't support M.2 and I upgraded to a Seagate 1Tb 7200 2.5 SATA Spinner Drive for more storage over the original WD 500GB 5400 RPM 2.5" - While doing that I noticed I have an unused mSATA slot. So I will be able to add the boot/Windows drive to an mSATA and still keep my old school 7200 RPM Spinner for storage.
Enjoyed the video as always. Right now i have 2x Crucial M4 512gb ssd's in a raid 0 array. When i can - plan on getting a nvme M.2 drive.
I have an older thin and light Dell laptop that exclusively uses mSATA drives for primary storage and, as far as performance goes, it's up to par with your run-of-the-mill 2.5" SATAs. To be honest it boggles my mind that these didn't become the standard at the time of their first release.
HDD will always be cheaper than SSD per gigabyte and it was more true back then so they would use a 2.5 in slot because mSATA only works for SSDs so unless they were making a device that was really small a 2.5-in drive would be better because you couldn't sell a cheap option that has an HDD hell even today if you're very unlucky you might be able to find a computer with an HDD still but usually if a laptop is super cheap it's using EMMC which is non-removable so screw you.
Thank you! I just came here to confirm that the speeds are the same when compared to their 2.5" counterparts. Very informative.
Some desktops will run an mSATA SSD in a PCIe x1 slot, if the slot is routed through the SATA bus; sometimes labeled, as mPCIe/mSata.
My brother HP Elitebook 2540p has 1.8" HDD Drive. The place is to small to M.2 SSD. I buy on internet MicroSata to mSata converter, and still work very well!
Toshiba U845W-S400; swapped out the 32GB mSATA caching SSD for a 256GB EVO840 and made it my C: OS drive. Dropped in a 1TB Crucial BX500 2.5" SSD for a D: drive. Runs great.
hi there, i have a thinkpad x230 and spent it a msata 256gb a couple of years ago and it's great. recently i bought a 1tb ssd to fill up the hdd port and was surprised that the laptop was significant warmer: the ssd took 1.6a. that are 8 watts that go out in heat.
since then i sent it into exile to my desktop and keep my 256gb filesystem tidy. ultra portability with a full pc is the most important thing for me.
thanks for that video.
For me msata is the only upgrade that makes sense on my laptop, it is an older laptop that has an insane bottleneck with its 5200rpm harddrive, even if the msata isnt as fast as m.2, I dont have any m.2 ports in my laptop, but the data transfer rate will still be faster.
Will it really be faster than SATA? The difference looks minimal from those charts, I have the msata port on my laptop but havnt bought a drive yet.
@@mentlinc oh yes the difference is immense.
Normally it would take the laptop a couple of minutes to do a complete boot, with all windows stuff loaded.
It takes at max 30 seconds now.
That might just be because the SSD is faster than a 5200 rpm drive and not a faster connection, but it is a huge upgrade on my old laptop.
@@cypherdk85 cool, I'm leaning closer to getting an mSata. My laptop doesn't have m.2 port but I found a mSata port on it. Is it faster overall you noticed or mostly faster boot times? Which model mSata drive did you get btw?
@@mentlinc I've not really done any benchmarks on it, but the boot times are definitely lower, loading games, opening programs like chrome, photoshop and lightroom, and also better data transfer when I transfer and work with the photos I take (70-80 mb raw files from my cameras).
I cant remember the exact model name of the ssd, but it is a Kingston 480gb.
Plus an msata ssd is not that expensive even for me in Denmark, so it was worth it to get it for me, a small investment for a pretty good increase in performance.
@@cypherdk85 Ok I've been looking at the Samsung Evo 850 mSata...but it's more expensive than the m.2 version! I might go with the Kingston 1tb if the price is decent.
is it ok to use msata and m.2 and a regular ssd on the same laptop ?
i want to have 3 separate hard drives on my laptop :X
Why triple boot one hard drive with three op systems when you can have three hard drives with three different op systems. I have one windows 10, one MX Linux, one Ubuntu Mate, using EasyBCD in the windows 10 to manage the boot manager. works fine for me.
1.5 Playback Speed... I dare you..
Started this at 2x ;)
My brain farted hahaha
i got a 512GB DogFish mSata SSD for my Dell Latitude E6540. i wanted more storage than my single 2.5 standard. i can add 1 more just fine and another with a slight modification to internal chassis, but it will fit👌
I'm getting an msata ssd for my Dell M4800 soon. Just gotta pop out the wlan.
Asus K56CA - not even Asus specifies on their website that this model supports msata SSD. Normally it supports 1/2 size, but you can also fit a normal sized one if you resolder the screw nut. I mounted a 120gb msata from Integral. Windows 10 boots in 10 seconds and I can actually keep the actual 1TB storage without sacrificing the CD-ROM for a HDD Caddy :) So yeah, they are not pointless in 2020.
Hi, I thinking of doing de same with de half size msata in my Asus. How can you resolder the screw nut?
@@manuvinci Heating pen (i think it's called this), but you have to be very very careful not to damage the motherboard.
@@johndmitrikozak2441 Thanks
Didn't pick up a thing in this video but he has a promising voice.
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my old MSI Z87 GD65 has an mSATA slot. I'll use it as a dual boot XP/Vista rig.
i wanted an advice would appreciate
i have a msata ssd adata 128g and my HDD is 5400rpm 1tb WD blue SATAIII .
im planning to get a msata 128 samsung and 1T SSD wd blue 3d nano
so i move my HDD to ODD's place (sata II ) and put the 1t nano ssd in its place .
and RAID the 2 msatas ( adata + samsung )
Q1 : is that raid possible ?
Q2: which is better should i install os on 1T ssd or Raided (128+128 ) msata ?
I can’t handle slow pc and I just can’t resently I wanted to swap from Samsung evo to pro or masts ssd
So thanks for the video
Not all computers have M.2 SSD slots or space for an extra 2.5" SSD.
My older Dell Precision comes with a mSATA and 2.5" SATA slot. Mine got a 2.5" HDD. It is nice to be able to pop in a mSATA SSD, clone the HDD to the new mSATA SSD as boot drive and use the old HDD as storage for downloads, music and video.
had to watch this on 75% speed....
Thanks for the breakdown
Can i put it in 6570B HP PROBOOK
I thought this video would suck and pointless to watch but...
Its actully REALLY GOOD
My Dell laptop has a mSATA slot for caching purposes. I know there is a way but I haven't figured out how to boot from that drive .
If it is for caching there is a high chance that it is just ' hard coded ' into the bios to just work as a cache and not allow to boot. Though never tried my self so good luck
I have an Acer laptop that comes with 20gb msata ssd for caching and installed windows sucefully on it, but 20gb it's too small for windows, so I will try to put in RAID configuration in bios to use it to speed up the normal hdd.
@@bootlegscarce0844 is it any faster than SATA running an OS on it?
@@bootlegscarce0844 figures lol guess I'll just get an ssd to replace my laptop hdd
if your computer came with a laptop?
Just got my msata to use for bootup drive. Lets see if it makes any difference in bootup time and gaming
Persian User did it?
@Persian User, did it work?
Yeah... Did it work? 😂
@@Razz9999
That was 2 years ago. It did work but now moved on to 970 pro
One point to note, if it's of interest to anyone, is that mSATA SSDs tend to run hotter than a similarly-specced 2.5" SATA SSD. The one in my laptop usually runs around 10c hotter than my 2.5", and that's without it even doing anything.
Thank you! I didn't know what that slot in my computer was for until now!
do all ssds have an msata in them?
I think mSATA ssd’s are good, because they usually come in laptops, and if you wanted an ssd in an old desktop like a dell optiplex, you can buy an adapter so it fits in a PCIe slot
im fine with slow desk tops
but i go bat shit crazy on laptops
i personally use a 280gb 960 evo for my boot drive and i still have one free m.2 slot soo...ima get my self a 1tb m.2 *cough* thats never gonna happen *cough*
can i install windows os on one?
I have a mSATA port on my mini PC. Is it okay that i use a mSATA to M.2 converter to plug-in a M.2 SATA drive.
sure as long as there is enough room the adapter should work
what was the point?, is that what i need, an adapter for the mini slot? can i just stick a direct m-sata in my slot? not screw mounts? stupid board design for this option
Well, it depends. From the point of view of current devices, they are pointless because the interface is practically "extinct". But for older or some portable devices, these SSDs are a practical and in some cases the only option for an upgrade / replacement.
can i use sata ssd in the place of a msata ssd on hp folio 9470m elitebook ?
As a person who also owns a HP Elitebook Folio 9470m, you simply can't do that. SATA SSDs (That are the full size 2.5 inch drive ones) can't fit in a mSATA SSD slot due to its housing and the pins aren't compatible.
in 2019 you can go for the biggest capacity you can afford on the cheapest interface your computer supports (in my case 1tb sata 2.5 ssd) and be happy, the difference in write and read speeds is so small that you have to project your time savings to the years scale, at that point better start asking "M'I gonna have this computer that many years?" probably not. No point expending double the price for a 1tb nvme drive or the same money for one with half the capacity.
I don't get why my dv7 has a msata port but you can't boot to it. It's only use is for a stupid TV tuner.
if i install msata, will i loss my internet connection?
Uh, no. Why do you ask that?
good video
how do you plug these fkn things in? lol
WHy is it so expansive!
mSATA is really useful to replace IDE hard drives with
Now lets just metion that "mSATA" ist actually mini PCI-Express... :D
Why sombody felt the need to develope a new (M.2) Port for something that was already available slipps my mind.
It's almost as somebody didn't know that falsly "mSATA" named port was actially a PCIe Port...
slot it in or slot it out frooby
How do I know that I have msata slot in my laptop?
you can check the support page for the laptop or open it up and have a look
CPU modder it seem like it has mini pcie slot
CPU modder can I use msata with pcie mini slot?
Sadly no they are different connector types and while they look similar they are not interchangeable
CPU modder thanks for your reply and I think I just figure out that there is a msata slot next to WiFi card slot or pcie and I thought it was the same but it’s not.
I like you background
Thinkpad t420 msata is far slower than ssd, 280 vs 480 mbs in read, writing speed is not that different but it seems less consistent
Easy on the caffeine.
Large files load test pleasee
I get far slower speeds in CrystalDiskMark 8 with this 250 GB Kingston "SUV500M" mSATA that I put in my 9 year old computer (with a Gigabyte H77-D3H motherboard, which has an mSATA slot that I have never used before):
245.50 / 237.35
237.37 / 230.81
31.21 / 72.97
24.96 / 37.23
I only bought the mSATA to try it out. No big deal :-)
It is still faster than a regular HD.
Hi, i have an old laptop with a MSATA empty slot. Is it worth buying an msata for it? How much u think the speed will improve?
@@anuragpant2192 I don't know much about hard drive/SSD speeds, but my Kingston mSATA is not as fast as a "real" SSD. But it is faster than a mechanical hard drive. I would say it feels about 50% faster than a mechanical hard drive?
If you find an mSATA that does not cost TOO much, then you could buy it.
Min 4:18 ...., what about weight ?
Can I have a graphics card that is in your background
yes
In retrospect quite pointless. Nvme and m.2 renders them irrelevant
msata is still expansive
:(
true... but then you look at nvme prices
also m.2 sata drives which are the same price* (sometimes) as there sata counterparts but easy af to install
I bought a msata for 65 bucks new 500gb ut s a 860 samsung
Not really, it depends on what you are looking for. For price point, i'd recommend finding a 500 gig version as it's the most affordable. Get smaller drives if you need to. They always have sales on these technologies as they are trying to draw more and more pc users into it.
r u not gonna mention how bad thy overheat
Got an mSATA slot in my Desktop, but there is no point using it over "normal" SATA because it disables the port when in use.and 2.5'' SATA drives are easier to find and cheaper.
running my old Plextor M5 Pro 2.5'' since 2013.
M2 is not Nvme
Yeah I noticed he was using the two terms interchangeably, but M.2 can actually be PCIe (NVMe) or SATA. So in the case of SATA an M.2 drive won't be any faster than an mSATA one.
This isn't so much an issue if you don't use the bloated dog operating system that is Windows. Not really possible if you're a gamer intent on being cannon fodder for game hackers.
mSATA = fat version of m.2 sata
and ext4
Your talking to slow speed it up !
msata and sata are differ3nt connector.. sure they are of use.. you can not connect an 2.5" ssd to a msata connector.. this video is USELESS !
I believe he was comparing the two technologies to see if one is better than the other. His point wasn't to say that you can use a 2.5" in a msata slot, but if you wanted to all you have to do is get an adapter.