I've always heard that the reason the Harts dropped the belts was because Neidhart hadn't resigned. After they dropped them, he did resign and Vince decided to switch the belts back.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments they had some matches on TV in back to back weeks and looked really good. I guess Vince knew Snuka had better lay low because of the Nancy thing. He repacked Steamboat as the Dragom and the Bulldogs become the top face team that replaces Windham and Rotundo. It would be interesting to see what would happen if Snuka and Steamboat stayed together
The Killer Bees for sure should have had a run with the tag titles, but the biggest crime is that the Fabulous Rougeaus never got a run especially when they were heels. It's one of the reason I don't particularly care for Demolition's ridiculously long stranglehold of the championship from 1988 to 1990.
My favorite tag team in hindsight was the Hart Foundation because the 2 guys complimented each others styles at a time when many team mates just mirrored each other. A little contrast made them a better team to watch.
It reminds me of what Jesse Ventura used to say. The best tag teams complement each other with different styles. Each one brings something special to the mix. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy specialist teams like The Rockers or Rock-n-Roll Express but there's more than one winning formula for tag teams.
Stevie Ray said the same thing about himself and his brother Booker T in Harlem Heat. They were (I'm quoting Stevie Ray here) "a cohesive unit." Stevie Ray was the bigger of the two, whereas Booker was a bit smaller, had much more agility, and would do the Harlem Sidekick and the Harlem Hangover. Stevie Ray seemed a bit better on the microphone, too. Same thing with The Steiner Brothers, each man had his own moves, each had his own character. Rick was the crazy Dog Faced Gremlin, running around and barking. Scott was the showboat, the man who would slam a 400 pounder like a piece of paper and then play to the crowd. Rick did the flying bulldog and that slam he would use to counter a leapfrogging opponent. Scott Steiner had The Steiner Screwdriver and The Frankensteiner. When the team separated, it gave Scott a storyline reason to belittle his brother. I still remember it: "I'm the one the people paid to see, not you!" Scott bragged about the moves, he claimed to be The Show (my words) of the team. It made for a good singles rivalry, one with which WCW should've done more.
Nowadays they all would have held the belt at least briefly . Belts didnt change hands near as frequently back then though . Which i was a fan of . Hard to build credit when everyone has a bite at the apple .
Great post. Championships shouldn’t turn over frequently. Sure the occasional transition champion is ok but champions should hold a belt long enough for people to see a good number of title defenses
Yes. I think a transition champion was necessary with the world title because of the strict rules about no babyface vs babyface matches or heel vs heel. However, it really would hurt the tag titles.
That's what I loved about Hogan's first championship run in the WWF. After a couple of years, kids started guessing who was going to take the belt, who was going to be the one to stop Hogan's awesome run. Randy Savage? Jake Roberts? King Kong Bundy? Paul Orndorff? Don Muraco? Rick Rude? Kamala? Hercules? Ted DiBiase? Andre the Giant? The WWF had many credible options. Nowadays, with titles changing hands so quickly, you don't have the same build-up. Wrestling Fan One: "Who's going to be the next champion?" Wrestling Fan Two: "Eh, who cares? Everyone's gonna get a turn eventually." That's the mentality these days. With the possible exception of the top belt in the promotion, winning a championship in WWE is no longer a big deal, same with AEW. I always find it amusing when someone poses with a secondary championship belt on Instagram or X, like they won the lottery. As a wrestler for WWE or AEW, you'd have to be doing badly *not* to win a belt of some sort these days.
I started watching the WWF as a kid in the mid 1980's and they had many tag teams at the time, however they were much more selective about who won them. Personally I feel the Killer Bees, the Islanders, and the Rougeaus certainly should have had a run with the straps as they were very dominant teams IMO.
One team that should've had their day with the gold was the Bushwackers. Sure, they were smaller but they were brutal and a favorite with the fans! They were monsters in the NWA, so it would've made sense!
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments it's been said that MOM won the titles by accident when Jacques Rougeau didn't kick out on time. This is why they dropped the titles back 2 days later.
Powers of Pain.. Islanders.. Twin Towers n 😢Rougeous Bros.. all could of been on the list.. I wasn’t a Bushwackers fan but if you watch the 88 n 89 Survivor Series tag team elimination match..
Yes. This originally started as a video about teams that could have held the belts, should have held the belts, and would have held the belts. However, it just got too big for one video. If enough people want, I'll revisit this and cover the original topic. As you mentioned, there were many talented teams including the Bushwhackers.
I remember the Powers of Pain got a huge push when they came into WWF. Then they had the double turn with Demolition at !988 Survivor Series and then put Demolition over at WrestleMania V. After that, they played musical tag team feuds for about 2 years until they were split up.
If that were true the Rockers, the islanders, the Bushwhackers,the twin towers and cowboy Orton and murracco could have shown Vince they could effectively carry a championship
The Rockers would have been amazing champions putting out banger after banger every night also the the Islanders could should added some gold to the Heenan family and the Bloodline
Man I wish these what if episodes were longer. I liked the CamAms . But I liked Strike Force to . I wish they would have had a longer run. The Rockers would have been good to. I know there could be more to . The Bulldogs vs the Nasty Boys for the title could be cool . I do alot of tag teams in a game called Fire Pro W . Lots of story lines pop up because of that. I even bring in some from the NWA to.
If you like what ifs, we've got more coming and we'll be doing longer episodes too! Thanks for letting us know what you like. I do a lot of fantasy booking with wrestling games too. It's a lot of fun.
From what I've learned, the fact that Santana & Martel really didn't like each other at the time, and Martel wanted to have a singles run was the main reason why their run wasn't longer.
I liked Studd and Bundy as a tag team but not exactly championship material but a great team to build up heat then put over a high flying smaller team by giving them giants to over come by using great team work
I think I'm going to revisit teams that didn't have the belts but could have and teams like Studd/Bundy that didn't really need them. You really nailed what Studd/Bundy's role was as a team.
Although they weren't a tag-team for very long, I think that the team of "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff & "Rowdy" Roddy Piper with "Ace" Cowboy Bob Orton in there corner could have easily beaten the team of "The U.S. Express" of Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo for the gold
3/4 of these teams are all worthy. Rhythm and Blues could have been transitional champs but that's about all IMO. The 80's was a GREAT time for Tag Teams. Other teams such a Power and Glory could have easily had a short but effective run. When they beat the Rockers, that should have been the end of their run with the straps.
I reckon The Killer Bees would've been the tag champions, except that The British Bulldogs entered and eclipsed all the other babyface teams. The Bulldogs made their WWF debut *before* The Bees, yet one would think that The Bees would've been easier to sell as champions based on their gimmick. Yet The Bulldogs were so far ahead of The Killer Bees in terms of in-ring brilliance, it was only a matter of time until The Bulldogs took the straps.
The 80s were an awesome time in wrestling, particularly in tag team action. However, the competition was so great a lot of fantastic teams were overshadowed.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments Take a look at the first Survivor Series (1987). This was one of the matches, ten on ten: The British Bulldogs, The Killer Bees, The Fabulous Rougeaus, Strike Force and The Young Stallions faced The Bolsheviks, Demolition, The Dream Team (Bravo and Valentine version), The Hart Foundation and The Islanders. Any of those teams would've been worthy of the WWF tag straps. Then in 1988, another ten on ten match: The British Bulldogs, The Rockers, The Hart Foundation, The Powers of Pain and The Young Stallions versus Demolition, The Brain Busters, The Bolsheviks, The Fabulous Rougeaus and The Conquistadors. Okay, so The Conquistadors were jobbers, The British Bulldogs were on their way out, but even without those wrestlers, you still had eight good quality teams in the match. Elsewhere on the card, you had The Twin Towers. Additionally, Strike Force were still in the WWF, yet Rick Martel wasn't on the card, he was selling a kayfabe injury. So, from what's mentioned above, you had a minimum of ten tag teams worthy of the WWF tag straps at the time. (You had The Mega Powers, yet I didn't see them as a tag team in the traditional sense, and I don't recall Hogan and Savage making a serious run for the tag titles, as Savage was the WWF World Heavyweight Champion.) What I've said doesn't quite do the late '80s WWF tag team scene justice. One needs to go back and look at one of these Survivor Series matches, see all the tag team talent on the ring apron and inside the ring, absolutely amazing.
We covered the Rougeaus' "win" in this video ruclips.net/video/jN6bnLnQsEY/видео.html. As for the others, I've never heard anything about that the Islanders or Twin Towers were considered for the tag titles. If you have any information, send it our way.
@wrestlingsgreatestmoments I'm definitely going to check out your videos on the Rougeaus. As for the Islanders and the Twin Towers, the were so over as Monster Heel tag teams, I thought that they should have had at least one run with the titles. The WWF had a ridiculously deep tag team division from the mid 80s to the early 90s.
Here is great question, which 2 guys would have made a great tag team but never ended up forming one? I would go with Lanny Poffo and Don Muraco. Poffo could be the mouth and acrobatic guy while Muraco could be the meathead muscle guy
I think Lanny Poffo was another underutilized talent that would have been ideal for a tag team. Not necessarily a tag champion but Muraco and Poffo could have been boffo.
Now that would have suited patera well when he returned. Hercules did will with Roma as I liked the big guy small guy type teams. As just a powerhouse type team Herc and Patera would have been great working against Demolition
Powers of Pain were hyped up to be Tag Champs and even scored pinfall wins over Demolition in non-tiles matches when they arrived in the WWF as faces. After Fuji did the double turn and the Powers turned heel and Demolition turned face the teams titles matches always ended up being double DQ or count outs and the feud was not as memorable. The Powers of Pain should've won the belts and had a long run until the Road Warriors arrived in 1990. The Road Warriors vs. Demolition and Powers of Pain vs. Demolition were back seat to the Road Warriors vs. Powers of Pain.
Stopping watching after 3 seconds!! Reason: terribly annoying, obnoxiously sounding yet ultimately distracting monotone muzak in the background. Why? Why does almost every RUclipsr make use of that totally unnecessary ‘tool’ in their editing? It ruins the story to the utmost and marginalizes the final product.
I've always heard that the reason the Harts dropped the belts was because Neidhart hadn't resigned. After they dropped them, he did resign and Vince decided to switch the belts back.
That's one of the stories. With wrestling, it's hard to confirm anything.
I think Vince was getting ready for Jimmy Snuka and Ricky Steamboat to do something special as the South Pacific Connection
I always thought they made an excellent team. Funny too after their wrs against each other in Mid Atlantic Championship Wrestling.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments they had some matches on TV in back to back weeks and looked really good. I guess Vince knew Snuka had better lay low because of the Nancy thing. He repacked Steamboat as the Dragom and the Bulldogs become the top face team that replaces Windham and Rotundo. It would be interesting to see what would happen if Snuka and Steamboat stayed together
Yeah. In one way I'm glad they didn't stay together because we might not have got Steamboat vs Savage at Mania.
The Killer Bees for sure should have had a run with the tag titles, but the biggest crime is that the Fabulous Rougeaus never got a run especially when they were heels. It's one of the reason I don't particularly care for Demolition's ridiculously long stranglehold of the championship from 1988 to 1990.
Either team would have had a good run I'm sure, especially when the Rougeaus were heels.
The killer bees? Good team.... but tag champs? Nah.... the division was stacked back then
@dnice2000 I don't think the Bees would get a long run. If anything, they'd be transitional champs or have a couple of short reigns.
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My favorite tag team in hindsight was the Hart Foundation because the 2 guys complimented each others styles at a time when many team mates just mirrored each other. A little contrast made them a better team to watch.
It reminds me of what Jesse Ventura used to say. The best tag teams complement each other with different styles. Each one brings something special to the mix. That's not to say that I didn't enjoy specialist teams like The Rockers or Rock-n-Roll Express but there's more than one winning formula for tag teams.
Stevie Ray said the same thing about himself and his brother Booker T in Harlem Heat. They were (I'm quoting Stevie Ray here) "a cohesive unit." Stevie Ray was the bigger of the two, whereas Booker was a bit smaller, had much more agility, and would do the Harlem Sidekick and the Harlem Hangover. Stevie Ray seemed a bit better on the microphone, too.
Same thing with The Steiner Brothers, each man had his own moves, each had his own character. Rick was the crazy Dog Faced Gremlin, running around and barking. Scott was the showboat, the man who would slam a 400 pounder like a piece of paper and then play to the crowd. Rick did the flying bulldog and that slam he would use to counter a leapfrogging opponent. Scott Steiner had The Steiner Screwdriver and The Frankensteiner. When the team separated, it gave Scott a storyline reason to belittle his brother. I still remember it: "I'm the one the people paid to see, not you!" Scott bragged about the moves, he claimed to be The Show (my words) of the team. It made for a good singles rivalry, one with which WCW should've done more.
I can't imagine Rhythm and Blues having the belts. They never really had a push at any point.
I was a bit surprised but you never know. Honky Tonk made the I-C title situation work.
Nowadays they all would have held the belt at least briefly . Belts didnt change hands near as frequently back then though . Which i was a fan of . Hard to build credit when everyone has a bite at the apple .
Great post. Championships shouldn’t turn over frequently. Sure the occasional transition champion is ok but champions should hold a belt long enough for people to see a good number of title defenses
Yes. I think a transition champion was necessary with the world title because of the strict rules about no babyface vs babyface matches or heel vs heel. However, it really would hurt the tag titles.
That's what I loved about Hogan's first championship run in the WWF. After a couple of years, kids started guessing who was going to take the belt, who was going to be the one to stop Hogan's awesome run. Randy Savage? Jake Roberts? King Kong Bundy? Paul Orndorff? Don Muraco? Rick Rude? Kamala? Hercules? Ted DiBiase? Andre the Giant? The WWF had many credible options. Nowadays, with titles changing hands so quickly, you don't have the same build-up.
Wrestling Fan One: "Who's going to be the next champion?"
Wrestling Fan Two: "Eh, who cares? Everyone's gonna get a turn eventually."
That's the mentality these days. With the possible exception of the top belt in the promotion, winning a championship in WWE is no longer a big deal, same with AEW. I always find it amusing when someone poses with a secondary championship belt on Instagram or X, like they won the lottery. As a wrestler for WWE or AEW, you'd have to be doing badly *not* to win a belt of some sort these days.
I was a Can-Am Connection fan!
They were gone too soon.
Me too, at least while it lasted....
I always wanted The Bushwhackers to win the Tag Titles just once, even if it was only for 5 minutes. There were my team.
I think some other viewers said the same thing. The 90s saw several brief runs so why not one for The Bushwhackers?
I would add The Islanders, The Young Stallions and Power & Glory to this list.
All good choices. Young Stallions and Power & Glory never got that solid push they needed.
I started watching the WWF as a kid in the mid 1980's and they had many tag teams at the time, however they were much more selective about who won them. Personally I feel the Killer Bees, the Islanders, and the Rougeaus certainly should have had a run with the straps as they were very dominant teams IMO.
I think there's a case to be made for all three teams you mentioned.
One team that should've had their day with the gold was the Bushwackers. Sure, they were smaller but they were brutal and a favorite with the fans! They were monsters in the NWA, so it would've made sense!
They gave Men on a Mission a title run so why not? Bushwhackers were way more over too.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments it's been said that MOM won the titles by accident when Jacques Rougeau didn't kick out on time. This is why they dropped the titles back 2 days later.
@@Rockhound6165 I've heard that also. It wouldn't surprise me.
The division was so stacked in that era a secondary title would have been useful.
I remember talking about this with my friends. We thought an Intercontinental Tag Team Championship was a good idea.
Powers of Pain.. Islanders.. Twin Towers n 😢Rougeous Bros.. all could of been on the list.. I wasn’t a Bushwackers fan but if you watch the 88 n 89 Survivor Series tag team elimination match..
Yes. This originally started as a video about teams that could have held the belts, should have held the belts, and would have held the belts. However, it just got too big for one video. If enough people want, I'll revisit this and cover the original topic. As you mentioned, there were many talented teams including the Bushwhackers.
I remember the Powers of Pain got a huge push when they came into WWF. Then they had the double turn with Demolition at !988 Survivor Series and then put Demolition over at WrestleMania V. After that, they played musical tag team feuds for about 2 years until they were split up.
Rougeau's did win the titles but the decision was reversed in a "Dusty Finish" vs the Hart Foundation in Montreal in 1987.
There was a need for Intercontinental Tag titles around that time. The Rougeaus and Bees would have had a lengthy feud for it and it would have rocked
If ever an era of WWF wrestling needed a secondary tag title, the 80s was it.
If that were true the Rockers, the islanders, the Bushwhackers,the twin towers and cowboy Orton and murracco could have shown Vince they could effectively carry a championship
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The Rockers would have been amazing champions putting out banger after banger every night also the the Islanders could should added some gold to the Heenan family and the Bloodline
All good points.
Man I wish these what if episodes were longer. I liked the CamAms . But I liked Strike Force to . I wish they would have had a longer run. The Rockers would have been good to. I know there could be more to . The Bulldogs vs the Nasty Boys for the title could be cool . I do alot of tag teams in a game called Fire Pro W . Lots of story lines pop up because of that. I even bring in some from the NWA to.
If you like what ifs, we've got more coming and we'll be doing longer episodes too! Thanks for letting us know what you like. I do a lot of fantasy booking with wrestling games too. It's a lot of fun.
From what I've learned, the fact that Santana & Martel really didn't like each other at the time, and Martel wanted to have a singles run was the main reason why their run wasn't longer.
And that was the last time Bret respected Shawn 😂😂
Pretty much!
Misleading to say CanAm was bigger than Hulk. It was common back then to not have the champ go last.
What are you talking about? Everybody knws that the Mount Rushmore of 1980s WWF wrestlers features Hogan, Andre, Piper and Zenk.
I liked Studd and Bundy as a tag team but not exactly championship material but a great team to build up heat then put over a high flying smaller team by giving them giants to over come by using great team work
I think I'm going to revisit teams that didn't have the belts but could have and teams like Studd/Bundy that didn't really need them. You really nailed what Studd/Bundy's role was as a team.
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Although they weren't a tag-team for very long, I think that the team of "Mr. Wonderful" Paul Orndorff & "Rowdy" Roddy Piper with "Ace" Cowboy Bob Orton in there corner could have easily beaten the team of "The U.S. Express" of Barry Windham & Mike Rotundo for the gold
They were a fantastic team.
3/4 of these teams are all worthy. Rhythm and Blues could have been transitional champs but that's about all IMO. The 80's was a GREAT time for Tag Teams. Other teams such a Power and Glory could have easily had a short but effective run. When they beat the Rockers, that should have been the end of their run with the straps.
So great that some teams have been lost to time ruclips.net/video/xnOp1nZ525s/видео.html
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments WAY too many wrestlers have been lost too early.
@@BronzeAgeBryon So true.
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A cast of thousands!
I reckon The Killer Bees would've been the tag champions, except that The British Bulldogs entered and eclipsed all the other babyface teams. The Bulldogs made their WWF debut *before* The Bees, yet one would think that The Bees would've been easier to sell as champions based on their gimmick. Yet The Bulldogs were so far ahead of The Killer Bees in terms of in-ring brilliance, it was only a matter of time until The Bulldogs took the straps.
The 80s were an awesome time in wrestling, particularly in tag team action. However, the competition was so great a lot of fantastic teams were overshadowed.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments Take a look at the first Survivor Series (1987). This was one of the matches, ten on ten:
The British Bulldogs, The Killer Bees, The Fabulous Rougeaus, Strike Force and The Young Stallions faced The Bolsheviks, Demolition, The Dream Team (Bravo and Valentine version), The Hart Foundation and The Islanders. Any of those teams would've been worthy of the WWF tag straps.
Then in 1988, another ten on ten match:
The British Bulldogs, The Rockers, The Hart Foundation, The Powers of Pain and The Young Stallions versus Demolition, The Brain Busters, The Bolsheviks, The Fabulous Rougeaus and The Conquistadors.
Okay, so The Conquistadors were jobbers, The British Bulldogs were on their way out, but even without those wrestlers, you still had eight good quality teams in the match. Elsewhere on the card, you had The Twin Towers. Additionally, Strike Force were still in the WWF, yet Rick Martel wasn't on the card, he was selling a kayfabe injury. So, from what's mentioned above, you had a minimum of ten tag teams worthy of the WWF tag straps at the time.
(You had The Mega Powers, yet I didn't see them as a tag team in the traditional sense, and I don't recall Hogan and Savage making a serious run for the tag titles, as Savage was the WWF World Heavyweight Champion.)
What I've said doesn't quite do the late '80s WWF tag team scene justice. One needs to go back and look at one of these Survivor Series matches, see all the tag team talent on the ring apron and inside the ring, absolutely amazing.
You left off the Rougeaus, the Islanders, and the Twin Towers, just to name a few.
We covered the Rougeaus' "win" in this video ruclips.net/video/jN6bnLnQsEY/видео.html. As for the others, I've never heard anything about that the Islanders or Twin Towers were considered for the tag titles. If you have any information, send it our way.
@wrestlingsgreatestmoments I'm definitely going to check out your videos on the Rougeaus. As for the Islanders and the Twin Towers, the were so over as Monster Heel tag teams, I thought that they should have had at least one run with the titles. The WWF had a ridiculously deep tag team division from the mid 80s to the early 90s.
@@mrf19741 You are 110% correct.
Here is great question, which 2 guys would have made a great tag team but never ended up forming one?
I would go with Lanny Poffo and Don Muraco. Poffo could be the mouth and acrobatic guy while Muraco could be the meathead muscle guy
I think Lanny Poffo was another underutilized talent that would have been ideal for a tag team. Not necessarily a tag champion but Muraco and Poffo could have been boffo.
Ken Patera and Hercules.
Now that would have suited patera well when he returned. Hercules did will with Roma as I liked the big guy small guy type teams. As just a powerhouse type team Herc and Patera would have been great working against Demolition
Snuka and Andre
Muraco and Valentine
Paul Roma and Jim Powers should have gotten a push. They looked good as a tag team
You're not alone in that thought!
Powers was a horrible worker.
@@Rockhound6165 Is this Paul Roma? LOL
@@wrestlingsgreatestmoments no, just stating facts.
@@Rockhound6165 LOL
Jimmy Snuka & Ricky Steamboat, should've won the tag titles
You're not alone in that sentiment.
I would of liked to see The Bulldogs hold the tag titles unfortunately that never happened
LOL.
I hope you're being snarky because they held the titles for almost a year.
Powers of Pain were hyped up to be Tag Champs and even scored pinfall wins over Demolition in non-tiles matches when they arrived in the WWF as faces. After Fuji did the double turn and the Powers turned heel and Demolition turned face the teams titles matches always ended up being double DQ or count outs and the feud was not as memorable. The Powers of Pain should've won the belts and had a long run until the Road Warriors arrived in 1990. The Road Warriors vs. Demolition and Powers of Pain vs. Demolition were back seat to the Road Warriors vs. Powers of Pain.
Yes Road Warriors' arrival changed everything
Rockers should have had a run with the belts
That would have been cool.
Muraco and Orton
They were a fantastic team.
Power and Glory
Phil lepton Doug Furnas
The Rockers
Power and Glory would have been excellent picks.
Stopping watching after 3 seconds!! Reason: terribly annoying, obnoxiously sounding yet ultimately distracting monotone muzak in the background.
Why? Why does almost every RUclipsr make use of that totally unnecessary ‘tool’ in their editing? It ruins the story to the utmost and marginalizes the final product.
Sorry to hear that. You're the first person to complain about this.
@@wrestlingsgreatestmomentsI like the music
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