Every Coin Collector should give Ancient Coins a try! (answering
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
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As I watch this, I realize that I am wearing one of your Alexander t-shirts today.
Ancient coins have never interested me a bit... until I found your channel! They are very scary as I know nothing about them and am afraid of fakes. When I was younger they just looked very crude but through watching your videos I've seen some very nice, realistic looking portraits in extremely high relief which is mega cool. I don't see myself becoming a huge collector of ancients but after seeing your collection I'd like a couple examples for my own.
How many times per day do you think about ancient Rome?😂😂😂
An absurd number of times.
And about Ancient Greece too!
It’s the collapse of Rome that I think about hahaha
Hail Mithras. 💰🔥
All the time. But I also realize how awful their slave-based culture was. For all the great things the Romans did, and how wonderful their coins are, their brutal culture would be as bad as WWII Germany with worse hygiene and more disease.
@@ClassicalNumismaticsthat's right man ...the best coins Roman's and coins from ancient Hellas...respect from 🇬🇷...if you don't have coins like these you are not serious coin collector in my poor opinion
I've been trying to get one from all the main Ancient Cities. Your programmes are of great interest and help 😊!
I began collecting coins in 1997 when my grandparents gave me a small box of old silver dollars, but my introduction to ancient coins happened in 2004. I purchased a follis of Diocletian struck in Alexandria, after reading a book by Zahi Hawass about the Valley of the Golden Mummies; I learned that the mummies were buried w/ coins of the Ptolemaic and Roman eras, specifically (as you mentioned) to pay Charon, and I thought, "I want a coin that looks like what I see in the picture in this book!" From there I eventually acquired a well-toned tetradrachm of Ptolemy I in 2008, which is still in my collection today. Since then I've honed my collection to a humble assembly of the Julio-Claudians in silver, w/ a Byzantine solidus of Constantine VII as a gold addition, bearing the Christ Pantokrator (coincidentally, acquired around the time you released your video on that coin type).
When I said "I know that guy" mentioning a comment, it was yours haha.
I love your channel, I stumbled onto it, researching ancient coins. I'm located in the U.S and have realized that the amount of collectors in the US are afraid of ancients and rather collect us coinage. While yes I like US and world modern coins, theirs just something special about ancients and I have a collection of ancients. Thank you for making content on ancients and you and your channel is what sparked my fancy on ancient coins.
I have recently embarked on collecting ancients and often think the further East you go the more exciting! I have cool kings from Parthia, elephants from Bactria, a hippocampus from Syracuse, tetradrachm horse riders from Kushan, hemidrachms from Thrace, staters from Lydia, siglos from Achaemenid, Dolphins from Sarmatia, flat Abbasid silver coins, a star coin from Mysia, and a tiny rose from islands off Caria. Why not take us on an strange and exciting journey to visit past empires and regions that are no longer. It is so very exciting and exotic. I love your videos but let's venture further into the strange and exotic! You got me started on Parthian coins, I blame you! :-)
Episodes on the Sassanians and the Indo Greeks are coming in the near future, you will love it!
what about kushan@@ClassicalNumismatics
Looking forward to that, big time. Dont forget the Kushans!@@ClassicalNumismatics
To me it’s the learning curve, not knowing where to start, I am stacking for the future Dark Ages and I think the more modern coins will be more recognizable for bartering
Having a little gold and silver for any potential situations is definitely wise.
The studying and knowledge you can get from collecting ancient coins is my main reason for collecting, other than my obsession with antiquity. I look forward to every episode. Thank you again for your hard work. I hope you are still making a video on Sol/Helios. Looking forward to that one
I will, promise!
@@ClassicalNumismatics ty for all your work. We don't take it for granted
Awesome!! I love your Chanel and Ben’s.
Unfortunately my first ancient purchase ended up being fakes. They were done before the internet was a thing. Before Yelp. There was no way for me to find out if the dealers were good. They advertised in legit magazines and I was young and trusting.
i feel that
Excellent advice! 😃
There are lots of fake ancients, but many are really bad counterfeits that would only fool the most rank beginner.
Thats true. For someone interested in collecting ancients, a mere few weeks of looking at coins should be enough to give you a good overall knowledge of how certain coins "should" look like. That person would not fall for most low quality fakes.
I think the ethical concerns is a large deterrent to the hobby. It is important to talk about as collectors too. I think you should make a video about it.
Im preparing some content on the subject too :)
What ethical concerns?
@@countryman5329that coins are looted, which a lot almost certainly are. Or Indiana Jones style, they belong in a museum! That's the two major ethical arguments that come to mind
Absolutely. You can't be a real numismatist if you don't study ancients and collect some.
I am glad I found your channel. Great videos. Ancient coins are awesome.
Welcome! Hope you enjoy it :)
Thanks! Love both you and The Coin Geek's channels. Wonder if you would be so kind as to let me cut some pieces of your video clips into my video's?
Thank you very much, thats very kind. Yes, of course, feel free to. Send me a message on instagram with what kind of content you would like in case you need some of my drawings, and I'll see what I can do to help you out.
Ok I will get in touch with you on instagram - i do have an instagram account but i have not posted anything so if im a little slow over there im just learning how to use it:)
Thanks LLC @@ClassicalNumismatics
Ben’s the best
Excellent work as always🍻
Thank you! More to come soon :)
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I've heard of the coin in the mouth practice but also about two on the eyes, are they both right? Never heard of the coin in the mouth
Both are instances of Charon's obol. The practice varied from place to place, but there is archaeological evidence proving both the mouth and eyes instances.
Anyone know an ancient coin expert I could send some pics of my coins to ?
Maybe it's irrelevent here, but would somebody care to explain what the Chalques coins are? What are they made of? What were the uses? Maybe a little bit of history?
Btw I am a newbie when it comes to coins, I am just a random guy who came a across the word dichalkoi (dichalques?) in a text I'm translating.
A Chalkous (plural chalkoi) was the bronze fraction of the obol.
It goes like this: A Drachma was worth 6 obols. One obol was worth 8 Chalkoi.
There are lots of greek bronze coins that are multiples of the chalkous. Dichalkoi, Tetrachalkoi, etc. The "Dichalques" you read is basically french for a piece of 2 chalkoi.
@@ClassicalNumismatics wow appreciate the info and quick reply. I have already subbed and watched some videos about Iranian coins. Great job man.
12:45 😂😂😂
Nobody likes Richard.
@@ClassicalNumismatics 😂😂😂
great video
Was a hoard of Athenian coins recently released?
By the quantity of coins on the market, yes.
Question on monogram coins what are some signs that a monogram is real or has not been tampered with. The reason I ask is because I have a monogram of Julius Nepos and comparing it to the other monograms in my collection it looks very authentic but I wonder if the reverse has been tampered with. I can 100% say it’s a real roman coin I just wonder if it’s been tampered with
"cheap"
Some people have a VERY different idea about what that word means...
I got a bronze Constantine coin for $15 at my local coin shop recently. I don't know much about ancient coins but many are indeed affordable.
Won't you make a video about the Paduans?
Not for now I dont know anything about them
Congratulations, a truly beautiful coin. Greetings from Sicily and congratulations again. Un saluto dal mio canale 🎉
Grazie mille!
that's the submachine legacy coin in the thumbnail
Are these coins we showed you fake?
I only show authentic coins, unless splicitly stated that they are fakes :)
The coins you show are out of the price range for most viewers. Please showing coins that are affordable
Not a single coin featured in this video, apart from the last two, is above the 100 dollar range. Most are under 50. Some are under 25. And I have entire videos dedicated to affordable ancient coins. Get your facts right before making such ridiculous statements 👎
@@ClassicalNumismatics Wind your neck in sunshine. Most of your coins that you show in other videos are worth thousands.
Alright, I'm gonna be the cold fish and say it: we should be really careful about actively proselytizing to other collectors or casuals in general about antique numismatics, because if one is met with more success than they expect the market and the hobby is going to curdle into something atrocious. When I was younger I collected video games and as speculators or just new arrivals started getting into it prices were shooting up, not just because there was less to go around but also because nobody was doing proper research and folks were jacking up their prices; worse still the fakes became nearly ever-present and unless you've got that magic eye to spot that bootleg Pokemon Ruby from 5 feet away because the shine of the sticker is off (actual experience, shop owner wasn't very happy) then you're gonna end up with something fake and that can often discourage a person, which isn't something anyone wants. We've gotten to a point where bootleg games are just sold openly and collected alongside real ones as the legitimate versions of games can exceed the point of reasonable cost, and I would loathe that happening to this scene.
This isn't video games, this is history, and we are but stewards of our collections, keeping them safe and expanding them for the next generation, we should be focused on that and not lose ourselves in our enthusiasm over what is an amazing hobby. I want more people to collect too, but I want them to do it right and not upend the entire table for everyone going forward. Sorry to be a buzzkill, but I felt like someone had to say it, especially given what I've seen elsewhere.
Could you elaborate further on exactly what did I do wrong? 😐
The whole point of this video was exactly to tell people to "Collect the right way" as you put it.
@@ClassicalNumismatics I don't think you did anything wrong, your instincts are on the money, your advice is sound, and you're completely earnest, which is all laudable. I'm just offering a word of warning and caution in approaching a body of people suspicious or less than enthusiastic about collecting ancient coins and trying to make the argument for it, causing what I'd describe as an artificial spike in the popularity of antique numismatics and possibly nudging the door open to that dark path I described above.
Please don't take this as personal criticism or some kind of attack, I love this channel and your content is constantly a delight to me, I'm just getting Vietnam PTSD flashbacks from the gaming days and what happened with all that.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 I’m afraid this same situation is happening with another thing I’m collecting (zisha teapots). If you search up the term on Google, you’ll just see ceramic fakes. Shame how lack of research can damage a market to such a degree. It got to an extent than even a 100k+ channel I know has been peddling very suspicious and mislabeled pots for high prices.
@@theeccentrictripper3863 I mean, ultimately people are going to get more and more involved in everything as time goes on and people in more populous currently less developed regions of the world start to come into more money. On top of that, there is literally a finite number of (authentic) ancient coins that were minted, so as the amount of them available goes down the value of them will go up. What you are talking about (the price of coins going up) is unavoidable, but it won't be because there is suddenly a classical antique beatlesmania...
With that said, something like antique numismatics will always have a relatively niche appeal in terms of the percentage of the population interested in it. It will never have the appeal of a mass-media like video-games, or film, or any other major consumer pop-culture media. How many people do you know, outside of academic circles, that can actually name more than a few Roman Emperors, or Diadochi? Exactly. Most people, frankly, don't care all that much about ancient history; it's just a thing that they know happened once a long time ago, way before the latest thing Taylor Swift tweeted and that last Marvel movie.
You have to either be interested in coins, interested in history, or, be interested in both to really find it interesting.
@user-lh1wr9sr8m It is the fact that modern day people can purchase and own an artifact that is literally 2000 or more years old, that is beyond cool i feel. You dont have to be interested in history to admit thats cool. The era of the hellenistic and classical periods are so far removed from us they are almost legendary to us, yet theres such immense physical and material evidence for their existence, that can be sold and traded in a modern market for a reasonable price, thats amazing.
I got introduced to this in 6th grade when i was 11, there was a roman presentation, and they gave us small bronze real roman coins, i got one too. They said it was probably some roman soldiers pay they buried and never retrieved for some reason. I thought that was so cool. Like how many objects you see in your daily life that are literally 2000 years old? Its crazy to think about how long these coins have lasted for. Way after you and i are dust and bones, and this phone im holding is dust, but gold and silver coins last pretty much forever it seems.
Also history isnt just about names and events, history affects where we came from as a culture, like our alphabet, calendar, and many things are from the romans. I think the idea of putting leaders heads on coins, we copied from the romans. Theres a meme floating around that american males think about the roman empire, I admit to being one of them lol. If carthage had defeated rome maybe we wouldnt be using this alphabet haha.
Oh if what you say is true then its an inherently good thing, they can be owned by those who truly appreciate the historical value, and where we come from as a civilization. Those ancient civilizations used money just the same as we do.