Sadge that's an account wasted, I'd be malding hard if u have good ships and u just stopped playing. But it's totally understandable if ur tired the game at this point, after all the only reason I'm still playing cuz I like the ship designs. :)
i got it early, so i put it in a fleet with 2 spears and an es to compare dmg output, i have the minecart extra module for the spear and my es is basically stock, this thing does ~60k dmg against lvl8 privateers, the es does ~40k,and the 2 spears are slightly above 80k usually. But sometimes when it gets good or bad rng it can do more dmg than the spears, or less than the es
@@Damphyre new 2 factions hayrredin clan and thunderbolt. looking forward to this. i hope there would be something like a forcefield shield consumable in energy system. something like a shield that will deflect Energy weapons with health. when its down it will now reduce the HP of the shields.
Something that might be worth knowing: You can preview the ship in any larger space port (Level 5 e.g.), including the one that costs additional 1.500 Proxima. That ship "variant" is version V3.05 "gold" and has a "Thunderbolt Star" Bow-Mounted High-Energy Weapon System with 53833 dmg/min / 3.888 damage/hit with Prio Battleship/Carrier/BC/Cruiser/Aux - seems a bit more logical than the base variant which is missing Cruisers and Aux in it's list (for some reason) and has Frigatte/Destroyer on top... With 3x5 HP Upgrades and 1xArmore-Upgrade is has 165.568 HP and 150 Armor / 15% Energy Resistance. Overall that version has 91.158 / 5.089 / 8.062 damage/min. Secondary is a Torp-Launcher with ~800 damage per hit 12916/min and a Dual Cannon ~ 250 per hit 17.884/min. Strangly with 105 TP spent, "only" the main weapon, much of armor, one command system and the AMIIS has been maxxed out.
@@Damphyre can confirm saw the preview version maxed out just over 91k right before we hit the hub. Keep up the good work. Our union discord is field with your's and Happy's videos and some of our guys testing and data
Takes over a million metal and more than 14 hours to build one. Does well, if well supported. absolutely needs fighter craft to protect it, and a missile boat to soften up targets. The mods to upgrade the gun, needs 8-10 tech blue prints for each 2% of the upgrade.
Cheers for another one! This ship looks and sounds very promising. I also really like the element it taking a 10% Hp damage when it’s weapon systems get destroyed because it makes it realistic. A ship like this carrying a ton of explosive ammo should take some sort of hull breach/damage when those ammo get destroyed. Regardless though, I’m curious to see what it’s hit rate will be like against Carilion Special and how it prioritizes ships 🤔
The AA might be 28 damage but aircraft either have low or no armor. Look back it has 4 cannon with 4x6 attacks per round. This thing is just a bullet hose with all its cannons and with mods it has like 5 different weapon platforms all along the lines of shoot lots of bullet at the enemy until they die. And the sneak peak of the command system against flanks it's a percentage of fleet damage starts at 20% can't see the upgrades. Possibly up to 40% it has 2 more upgrades from base. The way it reads is 100% to the fleet you fight then base at 20% of your overall dpm to all flank fleets. Possibly still not accounting for evasion and hit rate but if 40% is max that is solid doing 100% to the main and 40% to all flank fleets
Oh and side note we go to server in 8 days so we might see you guys. Keep and our out for CitadelSecurity and Omegasecurity. And say hi if you see us. All huge fans
At the time, most ship's AA weapons have pretty bad hit rate, so most of those shots will miss in the first place, and it is preferable that those shots that do land, deal as much dmg as possible, so that's why higher dmg per hit in AA weapons is more convenient, despite that most aircraft got 0 armor (except Vitas B and its 10 armor points, turning any AA weapon in those ranges of dmg pretty much useless). One could say that the last patch buffing AA weapons, some being given higher dmg per shot against aircrafts as a skill, might have fixed this issue a bit.
@@EliiGamer685 I just pulled it so no mods or tp. It will honestly be a while before I end up testing it. St59 with it's speed boost and then spear in general are just too good right to be juggling bcs tp to find out if it works or not now
Hey buddy, old Dio Brando over here in Muff Divers... I have the thunderbolt. Whahaha. Lol Hit me up on discord and I will give you all my information and thoughts... moving 100tp out of my storms to it to try it.
Haven't properly trsted its command strategy yet for lack of tech points, but I did upgrade the aircraft military weapon integration system a few times. The railguns hit hard even against cruisers as they are now. Can't rely on her anti aircraft missile array though, so support ships and interceptors would accompany fleets with my Thunderbolt Star and Spear of Uranus. Makes a nice battering ram of sorts, as well as a flanking force. Special ammo though is limited and you have to teturn to base to replenish them.
Did you look at the 3rd version you will be able to pick up from the trading post oh my god it's a f-ing monster main gun becomes an energy weapon 3240 base + 648 upgraded large ships a large torpedo launcher 621 + 186 upgraded 8 attacks per round same active AA but a medium anti ship weapon same times as the other AA but 207 damage + 41 upgraded total anti ship damage is 91158 this is with 3 weapons system changes and 195 tech points
@Damphyre...I have 6 accts..my main got Thunderbolt, and one of my alts has it..I havent reset any BCs to put TP into her..but if you need better details on the systems lmk..I can send your whatever you need
Hey Damphyre, did you know that you can see the command system upgrades when you click on the icon between "special effect/firepower stats" and "basic stats"? Works even if you don't own the BP.
look at the armor of the ship, it's only 120, I think this ship is strong in dealing damage, so the armor has been reduced a lot, I think combining with chimera or spear of uranus to make shield in the front row will be better
Mmm, CTG struggles a but vs frig/dessie which is the current meta for the most part, albeit seeing more jaegar and predators which the CTG will do better at.
@@nach0x there's a chance it might not matter that it's a glass cannon. Also we're considering it's base, it may have armour systems to unlock and maybe even different no exploding ammo systems 😅
the flanking fleets receives damage at 20% of base, which can be increased with TP. The way it reads, it seems that the main battle will be unaffected.
@@Damphyre Yesterday a guy from my system shared the ship in the general chat showing that he has unlocked Thunderbolt we were all excited and full of envy hahahahaha
Wait -- is it possible that "collateral damage" thing is applied to **enemy target ships** and _not_ the Thunderbolt's system? Would kind of make sense because that seems like a really hefty penalty - too hefty in fact to make sense. ...???
One of my Thunderbolts suffered collateral damage when her railguns were shot off by enemy Newland attackers, and the damage it took from that was phenomenal. That would have cost me the ship if only their owner could risk staying longer in a 3v1 duel near our hive.
I don’t play the game anymore but that ship is very good looking and honestly badass.
Yeah is a pretty cool looking ships isn't it!
Sadge that's an account wasted, I'd be malding hard if u have good ships and u just stopped playing. But it's totally understandable if ur tired the game at this point, after all the only reason I'm still playing cuz I like the ship designs. :)
@@josephyecla4746 I liked the ship designs too but I got college and life and all that I got too focus on. And my ships are on my android account
@@zetoboogaloo8802 same also got into college and stopped being that active, I just wanna collect the cool ships :3
@@zetoboogaloo8802 same also got into college and stopped being that active, I just wanna collect the cool ships :3
DAKKA Batlecruiser it seems. Also, continue your ship guide series :D
I got a bit of time this weekend coming so going to try record and get a bunch of vids done on the ship series 👍
@@Damphyre Just got it :D ! i have 48 tech points... should i spend it on it or the CTG with the additional energy module?
I think the rate of fire is poor, it is more an alpha strike ship, doing 2-3 salvo's per minute at best.
i got it early, so i put it in a fleet with 2 spears and an es to compare dmg output, i have the minecart extra module for the spear and my es is basically stock, this thing does ~60k dmg against lvl8 privateers, the es does ~40k,and the 2 spears are slightly above 80k usually. But sometimes when it gets good or bad rng it can do more dmg than the spears, or less than the es
its a new factional ship? Thunderbolt? like the hayrredin something?
Pretty sure it's from the NOMA shipyard - looking at the generic livery. That tan/camo-type paint job is typical of NOMA
Yeah it's thunderbolt group's ship so a new faction it seems.
@@Damphyre new 2 factions hayrredin clan and thunderbolt. looking forward to this. i hope there would be something like a forcefield shield consumable in energy system. something like a shield that will deflect Energy weapons with health. when its down it will now reduce the HP of the shields.
Vitas A gonna be some pricks that annoyance this ship lol
7:34 vitas new antimeta? xddd
Pretty sure people still run vitas A in their fleets. They also run spores now and after they've dealt with your air go after systems too.
@@DamphyreI run Vitas A and Spores.
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Something that might be worth knowing: You can preview the ship in any larger space port (Level 5 e.g.), including the one that costs additional 1.500 Proxima. That ship "variant" is version V3.05 "gold" and has a "Thunderbolt Star" Bow-Mounted High-Energy Weapon System with 53833 dmg/min / 3.888 damage/hit with Prio Battleship/Carrier/BC/Cruiser/Aux - seems a bit more logical than the base variant which is missing Cruisers and Aux in it's list (for some reason) and has Frigatte/Destroyer on top... With 3x5 HP Upgrades and 1xArmore-Upgrade is has 165.568 HP and 150 Armor / 15% Energy Resistance.
Overall that version has 91.158 / 5.089 / 8.062 damage/min.
Secondary is a Torp-Launcher with ~800 damage per hit 12916/min and a Dual Cannon ~ 250 per hit 17.884/min. Strangly with 105 TP spent, "only" the main weapon, much of armor, one command system and the AMIIS has been maxxed out.
emotinal dammage
Except I'm in the hub so I can't
Thunderbolt can't hit the Broadside of Manhattan much less a Frigate
Stupid infinite lagrange, large guns ARE NOT for targeting small targets unless you are mounting a giant shotgun to the bow.
This ship is a beast, I saw some chineese pictures with it almost maxed out and it looks a decisive weapon.
I've heard near max it's getting around 90k dpm 😅
@@Damphyre can confirm saw the preview version maxed out just over 91k right before we hit the hub. Keep up the good work. Our union discord is field with your's and Happy's videos and some of our guys testing and data
Takes over a million metal and more than 14 hours to build one. Does well, if well supported. absolutely needs fighter craft to protect it, and a missile boat to soften up targets. The mods to upgrade the gun, needs 8-10 tech blue prints for each 2% of the upgrade.
basically impossible for an f2p/light spender to upgrade it XD
Apparently, there are three different main weapon systems 1st is the railgun, 2nd is torpedo, and 3rd is energy.
Cheers for another one! This ship looks and sounds very promising. I also really like the element it taking a 10% Hp damage when it’s weapon systems get destroyed because it makes it realistic. A ship like this carrying a ton of explosive ammo should take some sort of hull breach/damage when those ammo get destroyed. Regardless though, I’m curious to see what it’s hit rate will be like against Carilion Special and how it prioritizes ships 🤔
I think i'll be more impressed by the coming Aux ship..it looks sooooo damn useful
The AA might be 28 damage but aircraft either have low or no armor. Look back it has 4 cannon with 4x6 attacks per round. This thing is just a bullet hose with all its cannons and with mods it has like 5 different weapon platforms all along the lines of shoot lots of bullet at the enemy until they die. And the sneak peak of the command system against flanks it's a percentage of fleet damage starts at 20% can't see the upgrades. Possibly up to 40% it has 2 more upgrades from base. The way it reads is 100% to the fleet you fight then base at 20% of your overall dpm to all flank fleets. Possibly still not accounting for evasion and hit rate but if 40% is max that is solid doing 100% to the main and 40% to all flank fleets
Oh and side note we go to server in 8 days so we might see you guys. Keep and our out for CitadelSecurity and Omegasecurity. And say hi if you see us. All huge fans
At the time, most ship's AA weapons have pretty bad hit rate, so most of those shots will miss in the first place, and it is preferable that those shots that do land, deal as much dmg as possible, so that's why higher dmg per hit in AA weapons is more convenient, despite that most aircraft got 0 armor (except Vitas B and its 10 armor points, turning any AA weapon in those ranges of dmg pretty much useless).
One could say that the last patch buffing AA weapons, some being given higher dmg per shot against aircrafts as a skill, might have fixed this issue a bit.
@@EliiGamer685 I just pulled it so no mods or tp. It will honestly be a while before I end up testing it. St59 with it's speed boost and then spear in general are just too good right to be juggling bcs tp to find out if it works or not now
You can see ships strategy and flagship skill at symbols right of firepower stats
Hey buddy, old Dio Brando over here in Muff Divers... I have the thunderbolt. Whahaha. Lol
Hit me up on discord and I will give you all my information and thoughts... moving 100tp out of my storms to it to try it.
Haven't properly trsted its command strategy yet for lack of tech points, but I did upgrade the aircraft military weapon integration system a few times. The railguns hit hard even against cruisers as they are now. Can't rely on her anti aircraft missile array though, so support ships and interceptors would accompany fleets with my Thunderbolt Star and Spear of Uranus.
Makes a nice battering ram of sorts, as well as a flanking force.
Special ammo though is limited and you have to teturn to base to replenish them.
Did you look at the 3rd version you will be able to pick up from the trading post oh my god it's a f-ing monster main gun becomes an energy weapon 3240 base + 648 upgraded large ships a large torpedo launcher 621 + 186 upgraded 8 attacks per round same active AA but a medium anti ship weapon same times as the other AA but 207 damage + 41 upgraded total anti ship damage is 91158 this is with 3 weapons system changes and 195 tech points
@Damphyre...I have 6 accts..my main got Thunderbolt, and one of my alts has it..I havent reset any BCs to put TP into her..but if you need better details on the systems lmk..I can send your whatever you need
Hey Damphyre, did you know that you can see the command system upgrades when you click on the icon between "special effect/firepower stats" and "basic stats"? Works even if you don't own the BP.
I'm level six and I got two of them ☝🏽 OMG stay off my front porch 🤣❤️
Its stats look stupid op (mostly cause of the ht callisto mod) though it might just be another hayreddin
Excellent ship butttt..., it's Main only focuses first on small ships.
look at the armor of the ship, it's only 120, I think this ship is strong in dealing damage, so the armor has been reduced a lot, I think combining with chimera or spear of uranus to make shield in the front row will be better
It feels like a huge glass cannon and I bet the big DPMs are for accuracy compensation 🤔
@@nach0x yes
i paired it with spears, tauruses, and some mid row fodder, and it is a menace
@@kermitthefrog1176 yes
You can see the command thing where the firepower Stat is click on that icon in that top right box corner in the firepower stats
it drop but rng say no to me too, and i saw it with some points is a monster 115k dmg anti ship, true we have to see if it hits
It does about 10-15k DPM against cruiser/BC npc fleets, but double that against lvl4s...
It was the same preview that showed the beefed up CVMO11 and showed you the schematic, what happened to that?
I have a bought one. It's ok. It's consistent. Idk about aa I got to check
To me the ship looks like the Epoch-class Heavy Carrier from Halo.
Glass cannon. Vitas A and B are going to eat this alive.
tankie?
I just got my CTG and was wondering if it was obsolete... Apparently not, good to know
Mmm, CTG struggles a but vs frig/dessie which is the current meta for the most part, albeit seeing more jaegar and predators which the CTG will do better at.
@@Damphyre at least is not a glass cannon that lose 10% HP when his main gun dies 🤣👍
@@nach0x there's a chance it might not matter that it's a glass cannon. Also we're considering it's base, it may have armour systems to unlock and maybe even different no exploding ammo systems 😅
@@Damphyre point taken but shhh.... let me enjoy this almost pointless victory 🤣
the flanking fleets receives damage at 20% of base, which can be increased with TP. The way it reads, it seems that the main battle will be unaffected.
Yeah seen it now goes to 40% too
It not only goes to 40% but it's 40% of your fleets output, not the thunderbolt itself
@Damphyre AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Thanks for the review
Wow nice new ship
that's a badass ship
is this an event-only ship? or can we get it later on?
Releases to normal black boxes in 13 days or something. Research agreement a bit sooner.
@@Damphyre Yesterday a guy from my system shared the ship in the general chat showing that he has unlocked Thunderbolt we were all excited and full of envy hahahahaha
Its a pretty good ship, I had it drop and will work on maxing it out.
Wait -- is it possible that "collateral damage" thing is applied to **enemy target ships** and _not_ the Thunderbolt's system?
Would kind of make sense because that seems like a really hefty penalty - too hefty in fact to make sense. ...???
Nah that doesn't make much sense to me. Sounds like a chain of explosions goes through the ship when ammo gets blown up.
surely that description refers to enemy ships, i have the thunderbolt and will max it tomorrow when we start server , ill let you know
@@b1raveheart so how is the ship doing? I dont have many tp for it, and so far it is bad
@@itchfinger i have 225 tp in it, not got much out of it yet , but still testing. not really put it in any danger yet tbh because it costs so much
One of my Thunderbolts suffered collateral damage when her railguns were shot off by enemy Newland attackers, and the damage it took from that was phenomenal. That would have cost me the ship if only their owner could risk staying longer in a 3v1 duel near our hive.