6:00 I got a totally different vibe that I think is important to discuss around what Ramses and Marissa were discussing... she sick and on her period/or psm and didn't want to have sex. Ramses immediately got defensive bc if "he doesn't feel pleasure he doesn't feel loved". THEN Marissa asks him, what if we can't have sex if I'm postpartum, or have you ever considered how many men cheat on their wifes when they get cancer. And that man had the f audacity to say yeah... that could be an issue??? Wtf I would've packed my bags right after that. He just cares about "the physical connection". Made me sick to my stomach.
Haaaaard agree. And when she mentioned that a lot of men leave their partners after they get cancer, and he just stood there saying nothing reassuring!!! Get outta here
💯 He keeps saying "I don't want you to feel forced..." but then implies he might leave if he doesn't get as much intimacy as he wants. He never comes out and says it, but he keeps leaving the sentence unfinished and I really don't see what else he could be implying there. I did a complete 180 on Ramses, because he was my favourite earlier this season.
Ehhh, He wasn’t as reassuring as he should have been but I wouldn’t say he got defensive. I agree though it should have been a conversation he tabled until she felt better but I feel like he was trying to have a larger conversation on physical intimacy which is more than just sex. But I feel like I don’t have full context to their “disagreement” so I may be wrong.🤷🏽♀️
I completely agree. He was gaslighting her here by saying he didn't want her to do anything she didn't want to do/wasn't pushing etc...but he was. He's already said in other conversations he "needs" to feel pleasure...and basically inferred it's his way (ie no condom) but doesn't accept the consequences of unprotected sex - pregnancy. I strongly dislike his weaponizing of being a "sensitive, non-stereotypically masculine" man. Maybe her mom saw straight through him from the start.
Yes!! I am one of those people, and I also have MS. I am concerned for her, as deep fatigue, lack of energy and depression can be early indicators. I hope she’s checked regularly. 🩶🪨
Neither Alex nor Tim seem to have grace for one another. One factor that stands out in this situation is that when Alex met Tim’s family, it was in their shared apartment during the day-likely a weekend when both had more time. Alex also made an effort to set expectations with Tim beforehand. However, when they met with Tim's parents, Alex mentioned having worked all day and that the visit lasted four hours. They were in his home, and given the strained nature of their interactions, it’s unlikely Alex felt comfortable in his space, let alone inclined to cook for his parents. Tim’s desire for someone to read his mind doesn’t bode well, while Alex’s short temper, impatience, and inability to communicate her needs-evidenced by their argument about her silence during the group gathering-only compounds the issue. Both seem stuck in their own perspectives. In the end, it's for the best that this relationship didn’t work out. Neither is ready for marriage.
It made my skin crawl when they had that conversation about sex.... I think you're completely right! 😂 He acts so progressive too but deep down he's just as gross as Stephan.
Remember on the “honeymoon” how Nick didn’t want to share anything on camera about their sex life. And then Hannah shares something so intimate with the world! Yikes!
Ur giving Hannah WAY to much grace. Even her family (parents and brother) know she is a mean girl and nasty to the core. The funny thing is EVERYONE is talking about her nasty attitude and disrespectful behavior, and NOT her weight. Noone in LIB history has shared their sexual acts between eachother on camera. She is a VERY NASTY individual.
Agreed on the sex part, I mean when other people were saying they don't like to do anal we understood but Nick not liking oral was blasted and I think that sex preferences should be respected, also understandably they can change but not blasted .. the person saying they didn't enjoy anal was herself whilst the person saying their partner didn't like oral was not who didn't like it.
Well you can't say no one in LIB history. We actually don't know that. Production chooses to air what they want, so if anyone has spoken about it we wouldn't know unless they opted to show us.
@QueenB723 I have seen all of the franchise , and they have not aired anyone talking like that. And we see that Nick asked her on several occasions NOT to speak on their sex life. Hannah goes out of her way to speak negatively about Nick every chance she gets. It is amazing that she has the absolute gull to talk about maturity and delusion when she is the one that quit her job to come on this show. She does not have a heart at all, and one should ask themselves why did her parents ask her to leave home at 18? Do they see the nasty person that she was and feared for their safety (and I am not trying to be funny) we as parents can raise our children to the best of our abilities and they can still turn out to be a narcissis or psychopath.
@aishagordon9693 Hannah is definitely mean and very abusive and condescending. That is not up for debate. I am not disagreeing with you on that. I am saying that it can't be said that "No one has spoken on sexual acts in LIB history". People may have spoken on it just as disrespectfully as Hannah, but it was not aired. That is all. IMO its more accurate that LIB has never shown us someone speaking this disrespectfully disgustingly graphic about their partner despite their partner explicitly requesting it not be done. Closest was when Shane told the guys he and Natalie had sex after she told him not to. I hope Hannah is apologetic at the reunion and actually corrects her behavior in the future. Cause right now she is showing up as a trash person. No matter Nick's flaws, this is not how you treat people.
I have no idea why you're so okay with Ramses, it looks like he pressures her about physical intimacy and basically threatens to leave every time she puts any boundary.
Ashley caught more of the context while editing the Ramses scene from this episode and we talk it about quite a bit more at the beginning of next episode
That’s what I was thinking too but Marissa’s reactions don’t seem to match that. I can’t tell if we are missing some context because the LIB editors are trying to push a narrative or if it’s actually that bad and she just doesn’t see it… I just get really suspicious of the LIB editors because they seem to really enjoy creating the “evil man” and “naive damsel in distress” narrative.
I appreciate that you guys consistently take the optimistic perspective of peoples character, people are so quick to assume the worst and forget the camera edit is powerful. It's refreshing to hear people be charitable to the people onscreen without being naive to the way producers influence things
The level of anger I have for tim is higher than the level of anger I have for any other man on this show. This man needs women to do exactly what he wants, when he wants, without him having to ask. And he’s ready to bolt at every opportunity. Alex can do so much better.
yeah and how telling that in both instances of their fights, they're offscreen. Initially we were made to just believe his version of events with the first huge blowup. But seeing the way he's behaved, it makes you question that. His flaws are definitely well on display
I think I might have a little Tim in me where, it’s not like so entitled but it’s more like wanting to recieve the effort/energy you put in…back. He went all out for her family and he expects that treatment back, I can see why he’s disappointed. She could’ve stayed awake a little longer to see his parents off. She’s too lazy and doesn’t match his cut right vibe
This Ep. 10 had A LOT of stuff happening more in just one Ep. Hoping that means all the next 3 will be juicy too and the reunion will give the audience answers and some people will be held accountable. Nick and Hannah ... A definite No from the get go, start of the proposal episode. Hannah never lost her Ick of Nick D. We will be seeing Hannah on Perfect Match but I hope we see Nick there too, lol. Taylor and Garrett... A definite Yes.❤ Despite that one off jealous tiff that aired. ( I think that Stephen/Monica situation regarding cheating that Taylor was caught in consoling Monica really got into Taylor's head a lot and she was projecting it onto Garrett along with her past relationship trust issues) Ashley and Tyler... Should be a No.. but it won't be. Girllll ( but Tyler is still lying to Ashley right up to the altar so she doesn't have the facts we all have yet) Marissa and Ramses... They both should say NO. Neither are ready or on the same page regarding big issues. They could date only. Alex and Tim... Well, Tim ended it so not even making it to the altar. Seems like off what Tim said he's done with Alex and LIB. Wows on how Tim spoke to Alex, he was so cruel in his words, esp after only a few days before he was all in for Alex after speaking to Alex's dad and that sweet moment. This was a full about face. Shocked. These people on this season, did this season need to exist outside of Taylor and Garrett's romance? This exchange angered me so much!!!! My friend and I both yelled... You f'n liar!!!🤬😡🤬 Ashley..." Do the kids even know what you look like?" Tyler... hesitates to answer and mumbles, " I don't think so."
I second this! I think the MAFS therapists are very much just there for the show and a lot of times are biased or assuming things. If we had counselors on love is blind there would be so much more of a chance for these people to actually understand their partner and love them in a healthy way
@@tengenforger4944 the hostility wow. I’m sure she knows what MAFS is especially if she watches love is blind 🤣 she’s literally saying love is blind would be better with therapists, which is 100% true
I feel so much for Alex because nothing is worst than someone always threatening to break up (this is the second time), specially over a nap...Tim is very unreasonable, there's no talking he just makes his mind and the other person has no say AT ALL...what an odd guy
Hannah's brother mentioned on his socials that his family was accepting of his coming out, and that he didn't meet Nick along with his parents purely due to scheduling conflicts. So whatever went down between Hannah and her parents, I don't think it involved her brother.
OMFG on what Tim did to Alex. She seemed unphased though, I wouldn't have been that calm. Tim giveths and takeths in record time.🤨 Hoping Alex's dad is at the reunion and Ashley's too.
I admit the couples are a train wreck, but I'm obsessed with Taylor. Her alone is making the show worth watching (at least for me). And I think Marissa has a lot of layers bc she's still discovering herself and I love that about her... now her choice of men and how she chooses to ignore the red flags is another thing... but waiting to see her growth :)
I also thought Nick looked good with glasses on! 😅I'm not into jocks or very muscular guys, so the wool suit and glasses "softened" his look and all of a sudden I was like, wait, he's actually cute? Totally agreed that Katie was talking to Nick in a way that fosters growth. They were being a little too flirty, but tbh the discussion felt like a breath of fresh air because for once two people talking weren't at odds. This episode had a LOT of conflict. It's getting emotionally draining. I think it's fine to respond to an ex as long as 1. you're upfront about what your relationship status is. and 2. you don't flirt. Like even if you're friends or friendly after the breakup and say regularly text them about a common interest or hobby, that seems fine to me. I hope Taylor got to check Garrett's phone and it was as he admitted in front of Ashley and Tyler. I think he probably saw how upset she was just hearing about the ex reaching out, and didn't tell her he responded because he wanted to avoid exactly what happened. So I hope he took away from it that honesty is the best policy.
Maybe I'm just being naive here...but if what Garrett said about his reply message is true, did he not say pretty much exactly what Taylor wanted him to say?? Also, when did he send that reply (in relation to his conversation with Taylor about the like)?? I mean in her shoes I would definitely want to see the messages to confirm, but if his reply was what he said it was then I honestly think I would believe that the "lie" was just a miscommunication (or a "missed communication") in the stress of the moment, cuz there's no reason for him to intentionally lie about a reply like that. 🤷♀️
Felt the same. She's been scarred in previous relationships but she can't allow that to self sabotage. If she thought Garrett was a cheater, she wouldn't have said yes in the first place. You have to give him that trust. He's in entirely different person. That means assuming the BEST of him, not the worst. All her reactions indicated an assumption of the worst possible intentions. Which is an issue on *her* part because you shouldn't be viewing your partner that way. He's extremely apologetic but also probably frustrated when he doesn't think the ire is warranted. He liked the message and politely stated he's happy in his new relationship. I was hoping Ashley would talk some sense into her but instead it seemed she fed into that. Smh
That just made the whole situation more confusing for me she literally said I want to make it INCREDIBLY clear that if an ex is reaching out youre shutting it down GARRETT 🤦♀️ that's where you make it clear you did that!
@@kalikayy Tbf, I saw a LOT of my own tendencies in him in that moment - when someone I love is angry at me and going off about it, I honestly tend to just let them get it all off their chest without interjecting (not even to correct inaccuracies), because they're more likely to listen to my explanation/clarification of the facts if I let them get vent themselves out first. Cuz then they're more calm and more likely to listen, instead of me just contributing to a yelling match that goes nowhere. Learned that one growing up with my mom lol, but I could definitely see Garrett doing a similar thing, then running out of time to explain because of the party and thinking that explaining in front of the others wouldn't be a problem because his message was exactly what Taylor wanted him to say, then being totally caught off-guard when she considered that a lie instead of just the rest of the story he didn't get a chance to say earlier. Pure speculation on my part of course, but from my own experience I could totally see that happening. 🤷♀️
personally, I think it was out of line for Hannah to talk about her sex life with nick especially since he did mention that he wanted to keep that private, and shes talking about it on camera, knowing that she’s on camera. even though nick is immature, I feel like there’s a more encouraging way to express her wants where she’s not tearing him down. Hannah definitely has an ego and doesn’t really respect nick. also, I don’t feel that nick had any bad intentions with his talk with Katie, I think it could come off as flirty, but I think they were just clearing the air and that’s just his personality.
About Hannah and her family: Cade posted a tiktok saying that he has a great relationship with his parents, so the rumors you were talking about are not real. Also, I think that Taylor and Garrett probably talked about other topics like politics etc, but they were not shown because they’re the obvious couple that says yes. This always happens with the sure couple every season and there’s one stupid argument that is shown (in this case Garrett’s response to his ex and last season Johnny and Amy’s condom issue, for example).
This might be an unpopular opinion but Marissa needs to stand up. Otherwise she's going to be pushed around by anyone and anything including Ramses. She's very wishy washy about her opinions and boundaries and that doesn't help her in any way
My theory is Hannah getting "kicked out" was one of those things where when ppl turn 18 they dont want to have rules even though they still live with their parents and they layed down a line that if she lived under their roof, then (insert house rule) and Hannah said fine i wont live here then
Yep!! That’s exactly how it was with me and my sister! My daddy gave us 3 options….go to school, go to the military, or get a job and get out and that’s what we did! 😂 in my opinion, Hannah’s parents were great and more than likely they gave her a similar option 🤷🏾♀️
I'm sorry. I watch Hannah twist the truth to suit her own narrative over and over, and I now question her reliability over her version of her parents' food manipulation.
Yeah, she seems to exaggerate and add things to the story to make what she says feel more impactful. Like her calling Katie her best friend in the whole wide world (when they barely just met), so Nick talking to her is not just inappropriate, but the betrayal of the century.
I found myself angry at the TV for not learning more about fights and intimacy and then i realized how selfish i was at this.. i mean these people, how ever shitty they may be (all seasons included) do not owe us anything, in fact they are brave for putting their shit on blast for all eternity snd scrutiny. So after that thought I was like, chill and enjoy.
Okay but in Tim’s defense, he is saying he went all out for her family, bought groceries, cooked, cleaned and she didn’t offer to help once. Then she put zero effort into meeting his family. Like seriously, even Hannah was out there doing more. And as much as I love a nap, I would power through for meeting my finances parents the first time. They drove 10 hours and they were probably tired too!
I think you may have missed a couple things. She said she talked to them for four hours and took an hour nap. She also said she would have stayed up if he told her it was a problem to him as she can't read his mind. I wouldn't say this was zero effort. They are definitely not good together and this is the best for both of them, but I have no idea how someone could actually be planning to marry someone, ask for their father's hand in marriage, and then call it quits after petty little fight like this. Tim gave no indication that he wouldn't walk away after the first feeling of disrespect, regardless of the intent or how long they were together for.
Exactly, his parents were probably tired too. She would've been on thin ice with me after what happened in Mexico. Tim had enough. I'd want to know the details of all their fights and interactions because a lot is being left out
Its interesting how people who have never been cheated on or gaslighted are surprised with Taylor’s reaction to Garetts supposedly ‘small’ omission. But if you have been with a liar - this would trigger the st out of ya. He should have been compassionate and also - volunteer his phone cause believe me - this is the beginning of lack of trust between them. She will now wonder what was in that message and what else is he hiding .It’s bad
Hannah literally seems absolutely terrible! She talks to down to everyone around her. Nick definitely has some growing up to do but he deserves some kind of reward for dealing with Hannah day in and out! Just imagine how she spoke to him off camera!
It's not the strong opinions of Ramses, that people don't like. It's that he doesn't leave a room for her opinion. No safe space to express her opinions, worries etc
ruclips.net/video/Appqzt8dQP0/видео.htmlsi=DLbtE3NjmLmMLy0B How are you both so lenient towards Hannah and Ramses!! Are you kidding? I have enjoyed so many of your videos, but this one was not one of them. They do not deserve this much grace. Also, no Nick and Katie were respectful and not flirty.
I think Ramses is kind of a fake lefty. Dude says a lot of great lefty things, but then shames Marissa for being sick and not wanting to be intimate. He uses a lot of double speak... "I know you're sick, and I know you're doing all the wedding planning while commuting to work and going to school, and it's TOTALLY FINE that you don't want to be touched right now... but like, babe, I wanna orgasm 🥺... and like, I totally understand! I just want to make sure this isn't going to like... be a regular thing. Like... if you get sick too much... is that something I'm going to have to deal with...??? Because, I needs sex." Like, there's a lot of things that Ramses SAYS that I agree with... I agree with his stance on the military, I agree with a lot of the views that he states... and I'm really glad these discussions are being had in a public setting like this, from a perspective like this... but the way he does it often feels very judgmental and condescending, and his actions don't seem to line up with the words he says. Why would he get engaged to someone who was in the military and has fond memories of her time in it... when he's so adamantly against it? When it's such a moral deal-breaker for him?? Because he was horny. He wanted to have sex and be on TV. He has a lot of, what seems like, progressive left-leaning ideologies... but then condescendingly lambasts Marissa for not wanting to go on birth control because, "....but baaaaabe, sex has got to feel good, and I don't wanna wear a condom", and then gets mad at her for not wanting to get his d*ck wet while she doesn't feel well. She is overwhelmed with all the responsibilities she's dealing with right now and now has to add wedding planning (which she seems to be doing ALL of) and her fiance's incessant sexual needs to her list. And Ramses gets all pissy when she asks for help. Sorry, I just have... annoyances with Ramses. And these two are CLEARLY not aligned on major issues. What is their relationship based on? No wonder their relationship starts having issues when the sex part is taken out of it.
They can know what he looks like and not know that he's their biological father. I agree it's a sketch convo, he absolutely should've brought it up in the pods so he could better explain the scenario. Not saying he's being truthful, but maybe not entirely deceitful.
I'm onto Hannah's game. I believe they get paid per episode and she made sure she stayed on until she absolutely no longer could : the dress episode. After not showing up to the dress fitting, she clearly wouldnt be able to convince anyone that she was serious about marrying nick and the jig was up. She never like the guy. By day 2 she had already comprised a long list of unlikable traits. She actually dropped him in the pods originally too.
Not defending Garrett but I do think when he said “it’s a semantics thing,” he was referring taylor saying there’s a difference between “facts” and “details.” He was trying to argue that from a technical standpoint, details and facts are the same thing. I don’t know why he was so focused on that tho 😭😭😭😭
as an ace person, i was totally frustrated by all of the coersion and shame and contempt about what people are or arent willing to do in the bedroom. ramses and hannah are the worst. please stay away from my box!! its not for eating i promissssseee
While I fully understand the frustration and I think Hannah specifically calling out Nick to other people on international TV is disgusting behaviour. It's a private convo between partners unless they choose to have it on camera together. Her just doing it like gossip is not how a partner should treat each other. It is a conversation though that should have been had prior to engagement. While it's totally fine to be ace, or to have an overactive drive, or whatever anyone is. Bedroom business is extremely important in a relationship though and if people aren't aligned in that area then they aren't compatible. Her shaming him for not wanting to is beyond disgusting. He's allowed to have boundaries of whatever kind he wishes. It is totally fine and reasonable though if she wants to have her partner do that and he isn't someone who is willing to for them to not be together because of that. It's an incompatibility. Which is fine, there's someone for everyone. Her trying to pressure him/explain why he should do it though is absolutely not okay. She's going at it in a young better do what I want or I'm leaving you which isn't coming across the same as we are not sexually compatible so I think we should end this relationship because one of us is going to always be uncomfortable with this arrangement no matter what we do. The result is the same but the action to get there is SO important. &Her saying she does it for him so he should is so not okay either. Especially if she wanted/offered and he agreed but doesn't want to. He owes her nothing. At the same time though I have a HUGE issue if he pressures/begs her to do it but he won't do it back. That would be odd to me. Idk it's a way bigger conversation than giggling with the girls about it.
@@Valerie-co8th i get what youre saying, for sure. its vital to discuss sexual needs within a relationship and treat those needs seriously, whether ace or allo or whatever. i wasnr commenting that hannahs needs are wrong, just that not everyone loves cunnilingus. and yeah, the way she went about talking about nick on camera was so gross. time and place. and its true that we dont know what nicks excectations are sexually, but if anyone has been demanding between those two, its been hannah. and i really felt for marissa, too, when ramses was like OMG YOU DONT WANT DO IT SOMETIMES?? BUT ILL DIE! and that hits home a little bit, because ive had relationships where i had maintenance sex because i felt obligated, and ashamed and broken because i didnt enjoy it, and yes ramses has needs, too, but he gets less grace because he was an asshole about the condom thing.
Outside of the sex issues I actually really like Marissa and Ramses together. It's frustrating because I like they talk to each other but then it gets weird with the sex stuff and it's like is it editing or is he really acting like he's entitled to her body for his pleasure even if she's not feeling well?
Hannah has talked down on nick the whole time. Yes there are questions that he asks that seem rather…frustrating. But if you don’t have the patience for those questions. What are you going to have patience for?She is just so mean. She’s the one who quit her job, and is telling nick that in order for him to be treated as an equal is to contribute more?! He wasn’t asking for her to bend over backwards I didn’t think. I thought he was asking for some grace and for her to be nicer to him?? She always has this judgmental face when he’s expressing himself. I can’t help but mention that he remembered all the bullet points of her note? She’s belittling this man so much. She can be confident in herself, that’s fine, but don’t tear down someone who you apparently want to marry. She just seems so harsh. He’s not her toy to be disrespectful to. Then she said SHE TURNED HIM INTO A MAN?! Even if that’s true. I don’t feel like that is right at all to say. Especially after knowing someone for less than a month?! One of the only reasons this relationship hasn’t crumbled under the disastrous foundation. Is because nick just doesn’t bring up the way Hannah speaks down to him and about him. Until it’s gone too far. Bc you just don’t know him well enough to say something like that. And she doesn’t really ever seem to have empathy for him when he does express how he feels, she just blames him and puts him further down. With no actual defense to give. It’s just “you’re immature nick and im perfect, so fix yourself thanks” Ik it seems like I’m full team nick, I’m not. I just hate bullying someone and not letting them defend themself.
Just because Nick doesn't know how to handle finances, do laundry or cook doesn't mean he's stupid or incapable. I understand though but he has a good attitude and would probably be willing to learn! Unlike Hannah, who you can't teach how to not be a bully 😒 The way Ramses acts about sex makes my skin crawl...nope. I really do think Alex probably ignored Tim off camera and the nap think wasn't really just about a nap. It was about how he felt him and his family didn't matter to her. ❤️
I feel exactly the same way as you, depressed watching a lot of these relationship reality shows. It's difficult to grab onto anything positive most times. Least we have Taylor and Garrett here.
watching this show.... I am so happy I am married. and some of the issues these people have never even crossed my mind. What is happening to people? There are no perfect relationships and no perfect people. I know this is a show, but I am kind of sure this is 80% of the dating scene these days.... which is so sad. also the editing on this season is crazy, we are just totally thrown into random conversations and we don't understand anything. we have to guess what happened.
I love you guys and I’m enjoying your takes on a lot of the cast, but I want you to reconsider giving Hannah credit for anything until we actually see any evidence of her being any nicer to Nick, since she’s apparently aware of how she comes off. It only makes it worse to me if she knows she sounds mean and harsh, and he tells her she is being mean and harsh, but she keeps being mean and harsh regardless.
Hannah is very mean to Nick. However, thankfully Nick def isnt genuinely in love with Hannah, no way. I feel like he wanted to get to the altar and dump her there. No way he's letting his ego take a beating cause he caught feelings. Its definitely giving he wants a podcast post show.
I think he wanted to call her bluff this whole time like he knew in Mexico it was a no for both of them but she was so nasty but also putting herself on a pedestal that he was like I'm not gonna be the one to end this and be the bad guy he knew she wasn't attracted to him
@kalikayy 💯 definitely! The sad thing is if he had run away earlier, he would have been called the villain, and we would have never known the extent of Hannah's horridness.
I don't have strong feelings towards Ramses either way. He definitely isn't a bad person. However, I don't like the way he states his political opinions with moral superiority. (Even if I share some of his views... he's not going to change anyones mind by being arrogant).
I feel like I'm getting burnt out on pple saying they know they have things they can fix about themselves, that they were wrong, and then continue to do those bad behaviors. Like your full of crap and it means nothing until you actually work on not doing the thing you criticize about yourself. Basically, I felt nothing when Hannah reflects on herself because I knew she was going to do anything with it. It's not enough to acknowledge you have a flaw and I have no grace left to give for this crap anymore. But Hannah specifically has embellished numerous times on camera, so I find myself just not believing her when she says things anymore.
Ashely’s “naps” are symbolic of her overall attitude of being LAZY and SELFISH. She acts like a spoiled teenager. Tim is in no way perfect, but has waayyyy more to offer and is ready for marriage. I don’t blame him for cutting things off. Not the way he did it, but that was the best decision.
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He pulled that Kenneth card. "I tried to cuddle you in the middle of the night, dammit"😂😂😂😂😂
6:00 I got a totally different vibe that I think is important to discuss around what Ramses and Marissa were discussing... she sick and on her period/or psm and didn't want to have sex. Ramses immediately got defensive bc if "he doesn't feel pleasure he doesn't feel loved". THEN Marissa asks him, what if we can't have sex if I'm postpartum, or have you ever considered how many men cheat on their wifes when they get cancer. And that man had the f audacity to say yeah... that could be an issue??? Wtf
I would've packed my bags right after that. He just cares about "the physical connection". Made me sick to my stomach.
Haaaaard agree. And when she mentioned that a lot of men leave their partners after they get cancer, and he just stood there saying nothing reassuring!!! Get outta here
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He keeps saying "I don't want you to feel forced..." but then implies he might leave if he doesn't get as much intimacy as he wants. He never comes out and says it, but he keeps leaving the sentence unfinished and I really don't see what else he could be implying there.
I did a complete 180 on Ramses, because he was my favourite earlier this season.
Ehhh, He wasn’t as reassuring as he should have been but I wouldn’t say he got defensive. I agree though it should have been a conversation he tabled until she felt better but I feel like he was trying to have a larger conversation on physical intimacy which is more than just sex. But I feel like I don’t have full context to their “disagreement” so I may be wrong.🤷🏽♀️
I completely agree. He was gaslighting her here by saying he didn't want her to do anything she didn't want to do/wasn't pushing etc...but he was. He's already said in other conversations he "needs" to feel pleasure...and basically inferred it's his way (ie no condom) but doesn't accept the consequences of unprotected sex - pregnancy. I strongly dislike his weaponizing of being a "sensitive, non-stereotypically masculine" man. Maybe her mom saw straight through him from the start.
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The excitement I get when you guys post is far more than I would like to admit lol thank you!!
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I too am equally embarrassed how excited I get when they post😭😂
Yaaaasssss! I even watch the reactions of shows I don't watch or the ones we don't have on Finnish version of Netflix yet.
Marissa made a tiktok saying that she has Rheumatoid Arthritis and that's what she meant by "I'm sick" basically she was having a flare up
@@letyoufindme Omg, that explains so much about why she was suddenly bringing up cancer in that discussion lol, thanks for the info!
Guys relax, we don't know he's lying....the kids could be blind😂
😂 this show is called Love is Blind not Kids is Blind. Wrong show Tyler
Tates take said Tyler's Ray Charles, Stevie wonder kids and I actually lol'd. 😂
@@Valerie-co8th hahahah I love tates take. So damn funny
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Alot of people have mentioned that Alex's need for naps (might) be health related... Due to BOTH of her parents having M.S. 😕🤷🤔
Yes!! I am one of those people, and I also have MS. I am concerned for her, as deep fatigue, lack of energy and depression can be early indicators. I hope she’s checked regularly. 🩶🪨
Neither Alex nor Tim seem to have grace for one another. One factor that stands out in this situation is that when Alex met Tim’s family, it was in their shared apartment during the day-likely a weekend when both had more time. Alex also made an effort to set expectations with Tim beforehand.
However, when they met with Tim's parents, Alex mentioned having worked all day and that the visit lasted four hours. They were in his home, and given the strained nature of their interactions, it’s unlikely Alex felt comfortable in his space, let alone inclined to cook for his parents.
Tim’s desire for someone to read his mind doesn’t bode well, while Alex’s short temper, impatience, and inability to communicate her needs-evidenced by their argument about her silence during the group gathering-only compounds the issue. Both seem stuck in their own perspectives.
In the end, it's for the best that this relationship didn’t work out. Neither is ready for marriage.
Not ramses being the other sex addict next to stephan
And she was clearly sick, like what the hell
@@Euodia746it sounds like she has PMDD or another chronic illness. Poor Marissa. She deserves so much better!
It made my skin crawl when they had that conversation about sex....
I think you're completely right! 😂
He acts so progressive too but deep down he's just as gross as Stephan.
Remember on the “honeymoon” how Nick didn’t want to share anything on camera about their sex life. And then Hannah shares something so intimate with the world! Yikes!
Gross and disrespectful on her part
My thoughts exactly when she was having the conversation with Ashley at the table! 😩 he’s probably gonna hate her for talking about that on camera!
Ur giving Hannah WAY to much grace. Even her family (parents and brother) know she is a mean girl and nasty to the core. The funny thing is EVERYONE is talking about her nasty attitude and disrespectful behavior, and NOT her weight. Noone in LIB history has shared their sexual acts between eachother on camera. She is a VERY NASTY individual.
Agreed on the sex part, I mean when other people were saying they don't like to do anal we understood but Nick not liking oral was blasted and I think that sex preferences should be respected, also understandably they can change but not blasted .. the person saying they didn't enjoy anal was herself whilst the person saying their partner didn't like oral was not who didn't like it.
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Well you can't say no one in LIB history. We actually don't know that. Production chooses to air what they want, so if anyone has spoken about it we wouldn't know unless they opted to show us.
@QueenB723 I have seen all of the franchise , and they have not aired anyone talking like that. And we see that Nick asked her on several occasions NOT to speak on their sex life. Hannah goes out of her way to speak negatively about Nick every chance she gets. It is amazing that she has the absolute gull to talk about maturity and delusion when she is the one that quit her job to come on this show. She does not have a heart at all, and one should ask themselves why did her parents ask her to leave home at 18? Do they see the nasty person that she was and feared for their safety (and I am not trying to be funny) we as parents can raise our children to the best of our abilities and they can still turn out to be a narcissis or psychopath.
@aishagordon9693 Hannah is definitely mean and very abusive and condescending. That is not up for debate. I am not disagreeing with you on that. I am saying that it can't be said that "No one has spoken on sexual acts in LIB history". People may have spoken on it just as disrespectfully as Hannah, but it was not aired. That is all. IMO its more accurate that LIB has never shown us someone speaking this disrespectfully disgustingly graphic about their partner despite their partner explicitly requesting it not be done. Closest was when Shane told the guys he and Natalie had sex after she told him not to. I hope Hannah is apologetic at the reunion and actually corrects her behavior in the future. Cause right now she is showing up as a trash person. No matter Nick's flaws, this is not how you treat people.
I have no idea why you're so okay with Ramses, it looks like he pressures her about physical intimacy and basically threatens to leave every time she puts any boundary.
I was also surprised. He was clearly pushing her to do more when she didn’t want to!
So much coercion!! I hope Marissa says no.
Ashley caught more of the context while editing the Ramses scene from this episode and we talk it about quite a bit more at the beginning of next episode
@@membriashTeasing the next episode already. Can't wait to watch it when it's out.
That’s what I was thinking too but Marissa’s reactions don’t seem to match that. I can’t tell if we are missing some context because the LIB editors are trying to push a narrative or if it’s actually that bad and she just doesn’t see it…
I just get really suspicious of the LIB editors because they seem to really enjoy creating the “evil man” and “naive damsel in distress” narrative.
I appreciate that you guys consistently take the optimistic perspective of peoples character, people are so quick to assume the worst and forget the camera edit is powerful. It's refreshing to hear people be charitable to the people onscreen without being naive to the way producers influence things
The way Tyler looks off before answering about the kids knowing what he looks like is him accessing the lying part of his brain, scientifically.
The level of anger I have for tim is higher than the level of anger I have for any other man on this show. This man needs women to do exactly what he wants, when he wants, without him having to ask. And he’s ready to bolt at every opportunity. Alex can do so much better.
yeah and how telling that in both instances of their fights, they're offscreen. Initially we were made to just believe his version of events with the first huge blowup. But seeing the way he's behaved, it makes you question that. His flaws are definitely well on display
I think I might have a little Tim in me where, it’s not like so entitled but it’s more like wanting to recieve the effort/energy you put in…back.
He went all out for her family and he expects that treatment back, I can see why he’s disappointed. She could’ve stayed awake a little longer to see his parents off. She’s too lazy and doesn’t match his cut right vibe
This Ep. 10 had A LOT of stuff happening more in just one Ep. Hoping that means all the next 3 will be juicy too and the reunion will give the audience answers and some people will be held accountable.
Nick and Hannah ... A definite No from the get go, start of the proposal episode. Hannah never lost her Ick of Nick D. We will be seeing Hannah on Perfect Match but I hope we see Nick there too, lol.
Taylor and Garrett... A definite Yes.❤
Despite that one off jealous tiff that aired. ( I think that Stephen/Monica situation regarding cheating that Taylor was caught in consoling Monica really got into Taylor's head a lot and she was projecting it onto Garrett along with her past relationship trust issues)
Ashley and Tyler... Should be a No.. but it won't be. Girllll ( but Tyler is still lying to Ashley right up to the altar so she doesn't have the facts we all have yet)
Marissa and Ramses... They both should say NO. Neither are ready or on the same page regarding big issues. They could date only.
Alex and Tim... Well, Tim ended it so not even making it to the altar.
Seems like off what Tim said he's done with Alex and LIB. Wows on how Tim spoke to Alex, he was so cruel in his words, esp after only a few days before he was all in for Alex after speaking to Alex's dad and that sweet moment. This was a full about face. Shocked.
These people on this season, did this season need to exist outside of Taylor and Garrett's romance?
This exchange angered me so much!!!! My friend and I both yelled... You f'n liar!!!🤬😡🤬
Ashley..." Do the kids even know what you look like?"
Tyler... hesitates to answer and mumbles, " I don't think so."
These shows need to come with twice a week counseling sessions for the couples
Oooo that would be goooood, juicy
Oh you mean like MAFS 😅
I second this! I think the MAFS therapists are very much just there for the show and a lot of times are biased or assuming things. If we had counselors on love is blind there would be so much more of a chance for these people to actually understand their partner and love them in a healthy way
That's married at first sight. Go watch that instead
@@tengenforger4944 the hostility wow. I’m sure she knows what MAFS is especially if she watches love is blind 🤣 she’s literally saying love is blind would be better with therapists, which is 100% true
I feel so much for Alex because nothing is worst than someone always threatening to break up (this is the second time), specially over a nap...Tim is very unreasonable, there's no talking he just makes his mind and the other person has no say AT ALL...what an odd guy
Hannah's brother mentioned on his socials that his family was accepting of his coming out, and that he didn't meet Nick along with his parents purely due to scheduling conflicts. So whatever went down between Hannah and her parents, I don't think it involved her brother.
OMFG on what Tim did to Alex. She seemed unphased though, I wouldn't have been that calm.
Tim giveths and takeths in record time.🤨 Hoping Alex's dad is at the reunion and Ashley's too.
LOL on pixelating Tyler. Hell Yes! Loving it.👏👏👏
Haha why they did that?
I don't know if there is a single couple that should get married....I really don't care for so many of these folks.
Blurring Tyler is chef's kiss!
I admit the couples are a train wreck, but I'm obsessed with Taylor. Her alone is making the show worth watching (at least for me). And I think Marissa has a lot of layers bc she's still discovering herself and I love that about her... now her choice of men and how she chooses to ignore the red flags is another thing... but waiting to see her growth :)
@@Mica98 I really like Taylor too. There are likable people individually for sure. I'm also just in a salty mood lately 🤓
Love Taylor, love her and Garrett ❤❤❤ i haven't rooted for a couple since Brett and Tiffany
I literally cackled at the first shot of Tyler censored 😂
The way I cackled at the Tyler censorship. It's going to be willlldd when all his lies are discussed at the reunion.
I also thought Nick looked good with glasses on! 😅I'm not into jocks or very muscular guys, so the wool suit and glasses "softened" his look and all of a sudden I was like, wait, he's actually cute?
Totally agreed that Katie was talking to Nick in a way that fosters growth. They were being a little too flirty, but tbh the discussion felt like a breath of fresh air because for once two people talking weren't at odds. This episode had a LOT of conflict. It's getting emotionally draining.
I think it's fine to respond to an ex as long as 1. you're upfront about what your relationship status is. and 2. you don't flirt. Like even if you're friends or friendly after the breakup and say regularly text them about a common interest or hobby, that seems fine to me.
I hope Taylor got to check Garrett's phone and it was as he admitted in front of Ashley and Tyler. I think he probably saw how upset she was just hearing about the ex reaching out, and didn't tell her he responded because he wanted to avoid exactly what happened. So I hope he took away from it that honesty is the best policy.
Calling Garrett a weasel is so disrespectful. He did the right thing telling his ex that they shouldn't be messaging each other.
I don’t understand why he won’t just show her their text
Maybe I'm just being naive here...but if what Garrett said about his reply message is true, did he not say pretty much exactly what Taylor wanted him to say?? Also, when did he send that reply (in relation to his conversation with Taylor about the like)?? I mean in her shoes I would definitely want to see the messages to confirm, but if his reply was what he said it was then I honestly think I would believe that the "lie" was just a miscommunication (or a "missed communication") in the stress of the moment, cuz there's no reason for him to intentionally lie about a reply like that. 🤷♀️
Felt the same. She's been scarred in previous relationships but she can't allow that to self sabotage. If she thought Garrett was a cheater, she wouldn't have said yes in the first place. You have to give him that trust. He's in entirely different person. That means assuming the BEST of him, not the worst. All her reactions indicated an assumption of the worst possible intentions. Which is an issue on *her* part because you shouldn't be viewing your partner that way. He's extremely apologetic but also probably frustrated when he doesn't think the ire is warranted. He liked the message and politely stated he's happy in his new relationship. I was hoping Ashley would talk some sense into her but instead it seemed she fed into that. Smh
That just made the whole situation more confusing for me she literally said I want to make it INCREDIBLY clear that if an ex is reaching out youre shutting it down GARRETT 🤦♀️ that's where you make it clear you did that!
@@kalikayy Tbf, I saw a LOT of my own tendencies in him in that moment - when someone I love is angry at me and going off about it, I honestly tend to just let them get it all off their chest without interjecting (not even to correct inaccuracies), because they're more likely to listen to my explanation/clarification of the facts if I let them get vent themselves out first. Cuz then they're more calm and more likely to listen, instead of me just contributing to a yelling match that goes nowhere.
Learned that one growing up with my mom lol, but I could definitely see Garrett doing a similar thing, then running out of time to explain because of the party and thinking that explaining in front of the others wouldn't be a problem because his message was exactly what Taylor wanted him to say, then being totally caught off-guard when she considered that a lie instead of just the rest of the story he didn't get a chance to say earlier. Pure speculation on my part of course, but from my own experience I could totally see that happening. 🤷♀️
Censoring T*ler is actually a hilarious decision
personally, I think it was out of line for Hannah to talk about her sex life with nick especially since he did mention that he wanted to keep that private, and shes talking about it on camera, knowing that she’s on camera. even though nick is immature, I feel like there’s a more encouraging way to express her wants where she’s not tearing him down. Hannah definitely has an ego and doesn’t really respect nick. also, I don’t feel that nick had any bad intentions with his talk with Katie, I think it could come off as flirty, but I think they were just clearing the air and that’s just his personality.
About Hannah and her family: Cade posted a tiktok saying that he has a great relationship with his parents, so the rumors you were talking about are not real.
Also, I think that Taylor and Garrett probably talked about other topics like politics etc, but they were not shown because they’re the obvious couple that says yes. This always happens with the sure couple every season and there’s one stupid argument that is shown (in this case Garrett’s response to his ex and last season Johnny and Amy’s condom issue, for example).
This might be an unpopular opinion but Marissa needs to stand up. Otherwise she's going to be pushed around by anyone and anything including Ramses. She's very wishy washy about her opinions and boundaries and that doesn't help her in any way
Mitch, Please sing more of the LIB songs. 😂😂😂
My theory is Hannah getting "kicked out" was one of those things where when ppl turn 18 they dont want to have rules even though they still live with their parents and they layed down a line that if she lived under their roof, then (insert house rule) and Hannah said fine i wont live here then
Yep!! That’s exactly how it was with me and my sister! My daddy gave us 3 options….go to school, go to the military, or get a job and get out and that’s what we did! 😂 in my opinion, Hannah’s parents were great and more than likely they gave her a similar option 🤷🏾♀️
I’m pretty sure Marissa said she has pms
I'm sorry. I watch Hannah twist the truth to suit her own narrative over and over, and I now question her reliability over her version of her parents' food manipulation.
Yeah, she seems to exaggerate and add things to the story to make what she says feel more impactful. Like her calling Katie her best friend in the whole wide world (when they barely just met), so Nick talking to her is not just inappropriate, but the betrayal of the century.
I found myself angry at the TV for not learning more about fights and intimacy and then i realized how selfish i was at this.. i mean these people, how ever shitty they may be (all seasons included) do not owe us anything, in fact they are brave for putting their shit on blast for all eternity snd scrutiny. So after that thought I was like, chill and enjoy.
I watched this review before i watched the next episode and im cracking up because everytime i see Tyler now i keep picturing that blur in my head 😂🤣
I just noticed the Tyler pixelation😂😂😂
Okay but in Tim’s defense, he is saying he went all out for her family, bought groceries, cooked, cleaned and she didn’t offer to help once. Then she put zero effort into meeting his family. Like seriously, even Hannah was out there doing more. And as much as I love a nap, I would power through for meeting my finances parents the first time. They drove 10 hours and they were probably tired too!
I think you may have missed a couple things. She said she talked to them for four hours and took an hour nap. She also said she would have stayed up if he told her it was a problem to him as she can't read his mind. I wouldn't say this was zero effort.
They are definitely not good together and this is the best for both of them, but I have no idea how someone could actually be planning to marry someone, ask for their father's hand in marriage, and then call it quits after petty little fight like this. Tim gave no indication that he wouldn't walk away after the first feeling of disrespect, regardless of the intent or how long they were together for.
Exactly, his parents were probably tired too. She would've been on thin ice with me after what happened in Mexico. Tim had enough. I'd want to know the details of all their fights and interactions because a lot is being left out
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@@lanceareadbhar I’m by no means saying Tim is great. lol. I’m just saying, Alex wasn’t a perfect partner by any stretch…
💯 Tim and Alex are just too different. Alex is immature, imho
Its interesting how people who have never been cheated on or gaslighted are surprised with Taylor’s reaction to Garetts supposedly ‘small’ omission. But if you have been with a liar - this would trigger the st out of ya. He should have been compassionate and also - volunteer his phone cause believe me - this is the beginning of lack of trust between them. She will now wonder what was in that message and what else is he hiding .It’s bad
The songs are so bad haha but I did the same thing with the "sorRY" 😂
Omg!
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I think Taylor an Garett are the only ones who will make it. Mabe there will be just one wedding like LIB Mexico.
Hannah literally seems absolutely terrible! She talks to down to everyone around her. Nick definitely has some growing up to do but he deserves some kind of reward for dealing with Hannah day in and out! Just imagine how she spoke to him off camera!
lol did I miss something ! Why is Tyler blurred 🤣 I can’t
Its cause their doing Netflix' job for them! 😂
Yay! 🪰🪰🪰🪰🪰
I don't have Netflix anymore but get the goods from you, thanks! And you make me laugh.😊
It's not the strong opinions of Ramses, that people don't like. It's that he doesn't leave a room for her opinion. No safe space to express her opinions, worries etc
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How are you both so lenient towards Hannah and Ramses!! Are you kidding? I have enjoyed so many of your videos, but this one was not one of them. They do not deserve this much grace. Also, no Nick and Katie were respectful and not flirty.
Its CooGEE (like the letter G) 😆 to us midwestern folks
Cutting off past relationships and limiting contact is not a weird expectation, it's respect.
…to you. Everyone is different!
I think Ramses is kind of a fake lefty. Dude says a lot of great lefty things, but then shames Marissa for being sick and not wanting to be intimate. He uses a lot of double speak... "I know you're sick, and I know you're doing all the wedding planning while commuting to work and going to school, and it's TOTALLY FINE that you don't want to be touched right now... but like, babe, I wanna orgasm 🥺... and like, I totally understand! I just want to make sure this isn't going to like... be a regular thing. Like... if you get sick too much... is that something I'm going to have to deal with...??? Because, I needs sex."
Like, there's a lot of things that Ramses SAYS that I agree with... I agree with his stance on the military, I agree with a lot of the views that he states... and I'm really glad these discussions are being had in a public setting like this, from a perspective like this... but the way he does it often feels very judgmental and condescending, and his actions don't seem to line up with the words he says. Why would he get engaged to someone who was in the military and has fond memories of her time in it... when he's so adamantly against it? When it's such a moral deal-breaker for him?? Because he was horny. He wanted to have sex and be on TV.
He has a lot of, what seems like, progressive left-leaning ideologies... but then condescendingly lambasts Marissa for not wanting to go on birth control because, "....but baaaaabe, sex has got to feel good, and I don't wanna wear a condom", and then gets mad at her for not wanting to get his d*ck wet while she doesn't feel well. She is overwhelmed with all the responsibilities she's dealing with right now and now has to add wedding planning (which she seems to be doing ALL of) and her fiance's incessant sexual needs to her list. And Ramses gets all pissy when she asks for help.
Sorry, I just have... annoyances with Ramses. And these two are CLEARLY not aligned on major issues. What is their relationship based on? No wonder their relationship starts having issues when the sex part is taken out of it.
They can know what he looks like and not know that he's their biological father. I agree it's a sketch convo, he absolutely should've brought it up in the pods so he could better explain the scenario. Not saying he's being truthful, but maybe not entirely deceitful.
His baby mama posted photos and videos of Tyler interacting with his kids from birth on.
I'm onto Hannah's game. I believe they get paid per episode and she made sure she stayed on until she absolutely no longer could : the dress episode. After not showing up to the dress fitting, she clearly wouldnt be able to convince anyone that she was serious about marrying nick and the jig was up.
She never like the guy. By day 2 she had already comprised a long list of unlikable traits. She actually dropped him in the pods originally too.
Not defending Garrett but I do think when he said “it’s a semantics thing,” he was referring taylor saying there’s a difference between “facts” and “details.” He was trying to argue that from a technical standpoint, details and facts are the same thing. I don’t know why he was so focused on that tho 😭😭😭😭
as an ace person, i was totally frustrated by all of the coersion and shame and contempt about what people are or arent willing to do in the bedroom. ramses and hannah are the worst. please stay away from my box!! its not for eating i promissssseee
While I fully understand the frustration and I think Hannah specifically calling out Nick to other people on international TV is disgusting behaviour. It's a private convo between partners unless they choose to have it on camera together. Her just doing it like gossip is not how a partner should treat each other. It is a conversation though that should have been had prior to engagement. While it's totally fine to be ace, or to have an overactive drive, or whatever anyone is. Bedroom business is extremely important in a relationship though and if people aren't aligned in that area then they aren't compatible. Her shaming him for not wanting to is beyond disgusting. He's allowed to have boundaries of whatever kind he wishes. It is totally fine and reasonable though if she wants to have her partner do that and he isn't someone who is willing to for them to not be together because of that. It's an incompatibility. Which is fine, there's someone for everyone. Her trying to pressure him/explain why he should do it though is absolutely not okay. She's going at it in a young better do what I want or I'm leaving you which isn't coming across the same as we are not sexually compatible so I think we should end this relationship because one of us is going to always be uncomfortable with this arrangement no matter what we do. The result is the same but the action to get there is SO important. &Her saying she does it for him so he should is so not okay either. Especially if she wanted/offered and he agreed but doesn't want to. He owes her nothing. At the same time though I have a HUGE issue if he pressures/begs her to do it but he won't do it back. That would be odd to me. Idk it's a way bigger conversation than giggling with the girls about it.
@@Valerie-co8th i get what youre saying, for sure. its vital to discuss sexual needs within a relationship and treat those needs seriously, whether ace or allo or whatever. i wasnr commenting that hannahs needs are wrong, just that not everyone loves cunnilingus. and yeah, the way she went about talking about nick on camera was so gross. time and place. and its true that we dont know what nicks excectations are sexually, but if anyone has been demanding between those two, its been hannah.
and i really felt for marissa, too, when ramses was like OMG YOU DONT WANT DO IT SOMETIMES?? BUT ILL DIE! and that hits home a little bit, because ive had relationships where i had maintenance sex because i felt obligated, and ashamed and broken because i didnt enjoy it, and yes ramses has needs, too, but he gets less grace because he was an asshole about the condom thing.
@kadarius ahh another ace person in the membriash community!! Hiiii 👋 🩶🪨
@@HeartShapedRock hello!! 😃 I love your emojis haha
Outside of the sex issues I actually really like Marissa and Ramses together. It's frustrating because I like they talk to each other but then it gets weird with the sex stuff and it's like is it editing or is he really acting like he's entitled to her body for his pleasure even if she's not feeling well?
THERE ARE PIC ONLINE OF TIM WITH HIS MOTHER AND KIDS!!!! 😮😮😮 I'M SO MAD AT ALL THE BS WITH HIM!! 😠
Tim or Tyler?
Hannah has talked down on nick the whole time. Yes there are questions that he asks that seem rather…frustrating. But if you don’t have the patience for those questions. What are you going to have patience for?She is just so mean. She’s the one who quit her job, and is telling nick that in order for him to be treated as an equal is to contribute more?! He wasn’t asking for her to bend over backwards I didn’t think. I thought he was asking for some grace and for her to be nicer to him?? She always has this judgmental face when he’s expressing himself. I can’t help but mention that he remembered all the bullet points of her note? She’s belittling this man so much. She can be confident in herself, that’s fine, but don’t tear down someone who you apparently want to marry. She just seems so harsh. He’s not her toy to be disrespectful to. Then she said SHE TURNED HIM INTO A MAN?! Even if that’s true. I don’t feel like that is right at all to say. Especially after knowing someone for less than a month?! One of the only reasons this relationship hasn’t crumbled under the disastrous foundation. Is because nick just doesn’t bring up the way Hannah speaks down to him and about him. Until it’s gone too far. Bc you just don’t know him well enough to say something like that. And she doesn’t really ever seem to have empathy for him when he does express how he feels, she just blames him and puts him further down. With no actual defense to give. It’s just “you’re immature nick and im perfect, so fix yourself thanks” Ik it seems like I’m full team nick, I’m not. I just hate bullying someone and not letting them defend themself.
Just because Nick doesn't know how to handle finances, do laundry or cook doesn't mean he's stupid or incapable. I understand though but he has a good attitude and would probably be willing to learn! Unlike Hannah, who you can't teach how to not be a bully 😒
The way Ramses acts about sex makes my skin crawl...nope.
I really do think Alex probably ignored Tim off camera and the nap think wasn't really just about a nap. It was about how he felt him and his family didn't matter to her. ❤️
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This show has me DEPRESSED.
I feel exactly the same way as you, depressed watching a lot of these relationship reality shows. It's difficult to grab onto anything positive most times. Least we have Taylor and Garrett here.
The music is definitely AI. The prompts are to fit the scene. Always.
Tim is mean.
watching this show.... I am so happy I am married. and some of the issues these people have never even crossed my mind. What is happening to people? There are no perfect relationships and no perfect people. I know this is a show, but I am kind of sure this is 80% of the dating scene these days.... which is so sad.
also the editing on this season is crazy, we are just totally thrown into random conversations and we don't understand anything. we have to guess what happened.
I love you guys and I’m enjoying your takes on a lot of the cast, but I want you to reconsider giving Hannah credit for anything until we actually see any evidence of her being any nicer to Nick, since she’s apparently aware of how she comes off. It only makes it worse to me if she knows she sounds mean and harsh, and he tells her she is being mean and harsh, but she keeps being mean and harsh regardless.
I don't need to see the whole thing to wonder....WHO IS IN CHARGE OF VETTING THESE MEN? It isn't 1952 when being married is the end-all be-all.
Hannah is very mean to Nick. However, thankfully Nick def isnt genuinely in love with Hannah, no way. I feel like he wanted to get to the altar and dump her there. No way he's letting his ego take a beating cause he caught feelings. Its definitely giving he wants a podcast post show.
I think he wanted to call her bluff this whole time like he knew in Mexico it was a no for both of them but she was so nasty but also putting herself on a pedestal that he was like I'm not gonna be the one to end this and be the bad guy he knew she wasn't attracted to him
@kalikayy 💯 definitely! The sad thing is if he had run away earlier, he would have been called the villain, and we would have never known the extent of Hannah's horridness.
I love Ashley ❤
Are we watching the same show? Hannah is a monster!
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26:46 The new good vs sex acts analogy is spot on. Talking about blue cheese when I thought you were still talking about sex acts…. Not so much 🤢😂
Idle lol
I don't have strong feelings towards Ramses either way. He definitely isn't a bad person. However, I don't like the way he states his political opinions with moral superiority. (Even if I share some of his views... he's not going to change anyones mind by being arrogant).
I feel like I'm getting burnt out on pple saying they know they have things they can fix about themselves, that they were wrong, and then continue to do those bad behaviors. Like your full of crap and it means nothing until you actually work on not doing the thing you criticize about yourself. Basically, I felt nothing when Hannah reflects on herself because I knew she was going to do anything with it. It's not enough to acknowledge you have a flaw and I have no grace left to give for this crap anymore. But Hannah specifically has embellished numerous times on camera, so I find myself just not believing her when she says things anymore.
Ashely’s “naps” are symbolic of her overall attitude of being LAZY and SELFISH. She acts like a spoiled teenager. Tim is in no way perfect, but has waayyyy more to offer and is ready for marriage. I don’t blame him for cutting things off. Not the way he did it, but that was the best decision.