Thanks you for this information. I was reading up on infantry tactics and often battle drill was mentioned in the manual but I couldn't quite imagine what this entailed.
Lot of people here not getting the point. This isn't how it was actually done in the field - it's just a way of teaching the basic concept to men who are utter novices.
@ageingdrummerboy At the time of the video was made there were differences in LI regiments and English rifle regiment drill. There was convergence in 1958 when the Ox’s & Bucks transferred to The Green Jackets Brigade. If you look on RUclips for the Scottish Rifles you will see the differences.,
I have to admit that I'm surprised to see Rifle No4 s in evidence in this clip. I was under the impression that the Aussie only used the SMLE . Mind you the accents at the end are very much un Aussie lol
love your videos Rifleman Moore🤙, a quick tip I learned in my time of cadets is to clench your bottom cheeks while doing an about turn I found it a lot easier to keep my balance 👍
Well I noticed that they always finished "at ease" after each drill movement which is what we did in the Royal Green Jackets, ( The Light Division), which is now part of the Rifles Regiment. The Section Commander also referred to the guys under his command as " Riflemen" which is equivalent to private in most other "heavy" Infantry regiments Therefore, they could be one of the Light Infantry regiments of the day, such as the Oxford and Bucks, or the Kings Royal Rifles....forebears of the Green Jackets, or perhaps the Somerset or Durham Light Infantry regiments ? Anyome else got any ideas ??....:)
Terry Orchard I had to watch it again to look for stripes on their left arms and they did have em so that rules out the Rifle Brigade and because of the year that rules out the Ox & Bucks as they wouldn’t have been referred to as Riflemen at that time as they didn’t become 1st Greenjackets till 1961 which leaves the KRRC
Could be Oxs Bucks LI the at ease move did not arrive into Green Jacket drill until the Green Brigade was formed in 1958. The term rifleman in this video refers to the soldiers role not a rank. The lack of regimental badge may be intentional being a general training film!
If you look at the whole movie then I don't think they were of any particular unit but enlisted with AKS. AKS made these movies and the main guys are obvious actors as normal people come over quite fake. Their roles are quite distinct as if written: one the natural one, one the shy one and one the maverick one. AKS made use of skilled and experienced filmmakers like Carol Reed and actors like for instance Peter Ustinov, who by the way was a private at that time. I find the faces vaguely familiar and have been trying to find who they are, but have not had any luck yet. AKS seemed to be quite good at their job as you can see in the extended movie. Watch how they move the camera about and cut from one scene to the next when they film the live exercises. Imagine where the camera must be standing to film them from moving into a ditch and then next it films them from that ditch and then it films them pushing through bushes from the back and the front. Another nice scene is where a group advances through a wood in extended order and fire upon cardboard Germans that pop up. Some info you can find in the wikipedia.
Who cares? I'm irritated that I attempt to approach military history from the combat level (company to squad and team tactics) because they fascinate me almost as much as weapons design, only to be stifled by the intellectual "establishment" around the subject(s): endless chattering about massive divisions and the rear-area-dwelling politicians (flag officers) who are most focused on by historians/scholars.
I like this old british video. Australia is like England but there's Kangaroos and other fun animals. Did you know the Koala Bear is a type of animal called a Marsupial ?
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sQWJ4p1i5bw/Wt_k4EKJkAI/AAAAAAAAQEI/NmP8RKEsAG47jNW6BUAOYPWiuVcut3AtwCL0BGAYYCw/h2048/546315128.jpg Gun on the left is my Pattern 1853 Enfield, gun on the right is my No4 MK1 Lee-Enfield
Wut? Once Russia turned against the Axis it was all over, only a matter of time. Certain poor decisions on the Axis side hastened the end of the war, but they simply could never win against being surrounded by a numerically superior enemy. If Russia didn't however, that would be a completely different story.
Honestly depends on what part of the war you're talking about. There are quite a few points where you very much just made it. At the same time there are a lot of points where you absolutely crushed the Germans and a few where the Germans pretty much lost it themselves.
Excuse me but this was mainly to create discipline within the British Army and like Rifleman moore said, the more technical moves were conducted in field exercises.
IVE done it and its crap do the sas done it no their out in the hills running shooting OH discipline is a little shit who is a bully that needs a good smacking
The SAS are well experienced soldiers whereas these in the video are not which is stated when the narrator says "some thought it silly at first" which shows that they're lacking discipline. Discipline is the fundamental of any force, you can't say otherwise as thats just nonsense.
From the film 'The New Lot' which inspired the brilliant film 'The Way Ahead'
Thanks you for this information. I was reading up on infantry tactics and often battle drill was mentioned in the manual but I couldn't quite imagine what this entailed.
Lot of people here not getting the point. This isn't how it was actually done in the field - it's just a way of teaching the basic concept to men who are utter novices.
i totally get how this can become something you don’t think about. you just do when the time comes to get it done.
From the drill - at ease after each movement and rifles at trail looks like an LI regiment No badges or insignia but may be Ox & Bucks?
@ageingdrummerboy At the time of the video was made there were differences in LI regiments and English rifle regiment drill. There was convergence in 1958 when the Ox’s & Bucks transferred to The Green Jackets Brigade. If you look on RUclips for the Scottish Rifles you will see the differences.,
crawl observe fire
is still taught in the australian army to this day
Bryce Turner dash, down, crawl, observe, sights, fire.
I have to admit that I'm surprised to see Rifle No4 s in evidence in this clip. I was under the impression that the Aussie only used the SMLE . Mind you the accents at the end are very much un Aussie lol
Sterling video. Would love to try that out at a reanactment one day
Glad it was of interest!
fantastic! have you got any 1930s early 40s tactics?
Facinating stuff.
Hello, could you do a video on WW2 British clothing/boots and equipment.
I will definitely be making multiple videos covering this in the future, certainly!
I will very much look forward to it!
Sparkling! Some crazy button polisher took the WW1 drills and sucked all the life out of them.
I'd say only this for it, it does make it very easy to visually follow for those of us looking at it from a historical context!
love your videos Rifleman Moore🤙, a quick tip I learned in my time of cadets is to clench your bottom cheeks while doing an about turn I found it a lot easier to keep my balance 👍
What regiment were they?
Well I noticed that they always finished "at ease" after each drill movement which is what we did in the Royal Green Jackets, ( The Light Division), which is now part of the Rifles Regiment. The Section Commander also referred to the guys under his command as " Riflemen" which is equivalent to private in most other "heavy" Infantry regiments Therefore, they could be one of the Light Infantry regiments of the day, such as the Oxford and Bucks, or the Kings Royal Rifles....forebears of the Green Jackets, or perhaps the Somerset or Durham Light Infantry regiments ? Anyome else got any ideas ??....:)
Terry Orchard I had to watch it again to look for stripes on their left arms and they did have em so that rules out the Rifle Brigade and because of the year that rules out the Ox & Bucks as they wouldn’t have been referred to as Riflemen at that time as they didn’t become 1st Greenjackets till 1961 which leaves the KRRC
Could be Oxs Bucks LI the at ease move did not arrive into Green Jacket drill until the Green Brigade was formed in 1958. The term rifleman in this video refers to the soldiers role not a rank. The lack of regimental badge may be intentional being a general training film!
If you look at the whole movie then I don't think they were of any particular unit but enlisted with AKS. AKS made these movies and the main guys are obvious actors as normal people come over quite fake. Their roles are quite distinct as if written: one the natural one, one the shy one and one the maverick one. AKS made use of skilled and experienced filmmakers like Carol Reed and actors like for instance Peter Ustinov, who by the way was a private at that time. I find the faces vaguely familiar and have been trying to find who they are, but have not had any luck yet. AKS seemed to be quite good at their job as you can see in the extended movie. Watch how they move the camera about and cut from one scene to the next when they film the live exercises. Imagine where the camera must be standing to film them from moving into a ditch and then next it films them from that ditch and then it films them pushing through bushes from the back and the front. Another nice scene is where a group advances through a wood in extended order and fire upon cardboard Germans that pop up. Some info you can find in the wikipedia.
Who cares?
I'm irritated that I attempt to approach military history from the combat level (company to squad and team tactics) because they fascinate me almost as much as weapons design, only to be stifled by the intellectual "establishment" around the subject(s): endless chattering about massive divisions and the rear-area-dwelling politicians (flag officers) who are most focused on by historians/scholars.
Despite this, we won.
I like this old british video.
Australia is like England but there's Kangaroos and other fun animals.
Did you know the Koala Bear is a type of animal called a Marsupial ?
I'm purposefully acting like a dumbass. But for real though I like this content and I enjoyed watching it. Please do more No4 MK1 Enfield era kit.
Will do!
lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sQWJ4p1i5bw/Wt_k4EKJkAI/AAAAAAAAQEI/NmP8RKEsAG47jNW6BUAOYPWiuVcut3AtwCL0BGAYYCw/h2048/546315128.jpg
Gun on the left is my Pattern 1853 Enfield, gun on the right is my No4 MK1 Lee-Enfield
Straight out of Monty Python
There is an element of that though it does serve more of a practical purpose than it might at first seem.
It is just a rehearsal/dry run/walk through. The addition of the parade ground drill would be a distraction and complete 'turn off' to us diggers.
@@graemesydney38 why?
@@graemesydney38 A dress rehersal
Unpopular opinion we won by the skin of our teeth 🤷♂️
Wut? Once Russia turned against the Axis it was all over, only a matter of time. Certain poor decisions on the Axis side hastened the end of the war, but they simply could never win against being surrounded by a numerically superior enemy.
If Russia didn't however, that would be a completely different story.
Honestly depends on what part of the war you're talking about. There are quite a few points where you very much just made it. At the same time there are a lot of points where you absolutely crushed the Germans and a few where the Germans pretty much lost it themselves.
no wonder they were so poor and had to use massive fire power to beat the germans
To be fair this isn't the only training conducted, it didn't take the place of field exercises, it's an adjunct to them.
yes but it was a waste of time the germans just did field craft and they were far more flexible in combat why did they not learn
Excuse me but this was mainly to create discipline within the British Army and like Rifleman moore said, the more technical moves were conducted in field exercises.
IVE done it and its crap do the sas done it no their out in the hills running shooting OH discipline is a little shit who is a bully that needs a good smacking
The SAS are well experienced soldiers whereas these in the video are not which is stated when the narrator says "some thought it silly at first" which shows that they're lacking discipline. Discipline is the fundamental of any force, you can't say otherwise as thats just nonsense.