A friend's son went to Finland (I think) as an exchange student and upon landing had severe abdominal pain. Turned out he had appendicitis and had to have surgery. My friend was dreading the medical bills but came to find out that care for ALL minors was completely free! The US is the only first world country with third world healthcare availability and employment benefits.
I feel terrible for the ordinary US citizen that has to pay so much for healthcare. Every country in Europe has a different healthcare system, but it is always affordable, especially compared to the USA. We complain too about our healthcare systems, but our problems are so much less than the problems in the USA.
The fundamental problem in the US is that the healthcare system is run as a business and businesses exist to make profits. Most other countries run their healthcare as a government-run operation and costs are WAY less.
The fundamental problem with the US, is that all human life is not regarded as equally important, so those with money are treated well, whist those without are left to suffer, or die. That attitude permeates throughout all of US society.
you dont need healthcare system in that sentence, everything in the us is run as a business even in elections somehow they see rich or busniessman as a plus while everwhere else thats an emediat red flag for a public office job. or as george carling said it, its a coast to coast shopping mall and americans think thats just dandy :P
Same goes for Sweden. The main difference is that instead of paying out-of-pocket (which we do to some extent), we pay many times more in taxes than americans do. We have the second highest income tax in the world, alcohol tax is 70%, VAT is 25% and restaurant tax is 12.5%, just to name a few. Pretty much everything you do in Sweden comes with added tax.
@@markpalmer8083 If money was more important they'd prioritize money over health. If you choose death over hospital bills, that's not the health care system's fault. That's your choice. The problem is that americans should save their money like they do college funds for their kids. If they had a health care fund they'd have a much easier time paying their hospital bills.
In France, when we go abroad (anywhere on the planet), we can ask for a card from the health insurance, it's free and it lasts one year. If we need to go to the doctor's or to the hospital, we pay nothing at all, our health care insurance pays for everything.
sorry but no. that's a european insurance card. if you need an international insurance, going outside the EU, you need to PAY FOR IT. and as to the european health care they will only pay you back what you would get back for french health care. so, if you paid more, the pay back won't cover the totality.
I confirm the card - free- allows you to get health services in the 27 countries of the E U. For countries outside EU you can get refund of your expenses, but as in some countries this is really expensive (like the US or China) it is good to take a special insurance for these countries.
Pretty sure French citizens don't have an universal health insurance like that, I think you mean the EU Health Insurance Card which only works in EU countries. That also doesn't guarantee a free healthcare for you, you just pay the same amount which it would cost you in France. Also private travel health insurances from different companies can issue a card that covers your expenses anywhere abroad but it's also not guaranteed to be free in the destination, only if the clinic etc accepts it. This means you might need to pay all the treatments by yourself and then back in France you claim it from the insurance company yourself.
@@thundercat9997 mostly, the EHIC works in Europe, for being abroad I do believe you can get additional insurance just for the trip which will result in not having to pay up front if you're outside of Europe. There is of course always the option of just coughing it up yourself and then declaring with CPAM (for which you don't have to be back in France, mind you, it can all be done remotely)
I'm a remote worker for a major US TV station that rhymes with sox smorts. I was offered a promotion, but one of the conditions was that I worked locally. So I got my "extraordinary alien" visa and set off looking for a house. But after a few months, I realized that I couldn't give up the luxury of having that social catch net if things go bad. The US is a great place to live if life doesn't throw you curveballs, better than any other place in the world when it comes to acquiring prosperity. But that's not how life works, get that curveball at a point in your life when you're just out of college, or get multiple issues stacked upon one another, and you might be screwed for the rest of your life. So I thought it wasn't worth it and moved back to Belgium, earning 1/3rd of what I was offered. But still living great, with my 25 vacation days, with parental leave, with education for my children, with healthcare, not having to worry about any curveballs. I know that if I don't go on a bender, I don't have to worry about living my life. Something that would have been impossible in the US. Sure less money in my bank account, but that doesn't matter one bit. And that's just my own situation, I also don't have to feel the guilt of how my society lets people suffer.
Time for anecdotal evidence. In August my appendix/caecum/Blinddarm, whatever you call this little bastard, tried to kill me. I went to my family doctor, he did his thing, then ordered a bloodtest and showed me the results the next day with the words "Either I call an ambulance or you organize someone, who take you to the hospital". At the hospital another bloodtest were made, a CT-scan and the same day I lied on the surgery table and the surgeon slit me like a pig, because there was not just the appendix that made problems, there were abscesses and an unholy amount of pus. Two weeks ago a letter from my insurance company came in that said "Mr. Meirose, you owe us 60 euros". SIXTY BUGS! for a bloodtest, a CT-scan, the surgery, medication, physical therapy, food and a stay of 5 days at the hospital (+about 60 more for bandages and meds I had to buy after hospital at the local pharmacy). And THIS is how it should be. If someone is sick, people should care the least about what did/does it cost.
In France the cost of a doctor's visit went from 25 euros to 26.50 on November 1st and people were horrified, even though the amount is later refunded to us by the national health insurance (or not, if you don't live in France).
FYI: The health care system in Germany is _not_ run by the government (in contrast to France or the UK). In fact, it is very similar to the US's system: We have hundreds of private _for-profit_ insurance companies _exactly_ like in the US. But we also have around a hundred _non-profit_ health care insurances, that are run as self-governed free enterprises that compete with each other and the private ones. Every German is obliged by law to be insured, but we can choose and switch between them as we like. Almost all doctors and hospitals are obliged to treat everyone regardless of the insurance company he has. We just let them scan our insurance card at the counter, and the billing is then done between the doctor/hospital and the insurance company without involving the patient anymore. The Government only sets the rules for the system and pays the monthly payments for people who benefit from the welfare system, like the jobless, asylum seekers, hell, even tourists - and for soldiers and its own officials. Children and spouses without own income are usually insured for free with the main earner in a family. Why do I explain this so in detail? Because the only difference to the US is the fact that we have these non-profit health insurances - it should be relatively easy to implement these in the US as well, and voilà universal health care for everyone, without turning your system upside down! Bonus fun facts: Germany, together with the Netherlands, is #2 in the world with regards to wait time, just a tiny bit after #1, Switzerland! Our per capita health care costs are roughly _half_ of those in the US. We pay 7.3% of our monthly taxable income for health insurance, but with a cap at ≈800€ (for high earners).
"The neighbors" do not want to help pay for a healthcare system for everyone, so the motto is "every man for himself" But when it comes to the right of women to decide what happens to their bodies, that same neighbor will shout very loudly from the rooftops that their will is law and they want to decide what happens to someone else's body... how hypocritical!
I don't know why you alway compare that to pregnancy. The thing here is much worse. If you are pregnant in the US and you have to get that baby even when your financial situation does not allow it, the US charges you for giving birth ... That's the main reason why people don't want children, because the US is child unfriendly.
A collegue of mine was diagnosed the sametype of cancer as walter white had in breaking bad (funny sidenote: is was the around same time the series aired, and he watched it in hospital) His entire medical bill was something around 10eur per day for wifi
The comment has often been made that if Breaking Bad had been set in Europe it would have consisted of 1 episode ! 1) a) you're not well b) go to doctor & hospital c) you've got cancer d) your paid-for treament starts tomorrow ... next drama please !
Hi Joel , it's an interesting video. In Belgium when I go to my doctor I pay 4 euros. Normally it's 26 euros but I pay 4 euros and the other 22 euros is paid directly from the social security to my doctor. An American visiting Belgium will pay 26 euros (pierre)
See, what happened in this video is symptomatic of the US mindset. You try to evade the outrageous costs of any medical treatment that you don't go until you have no other choice. If he had decided to go to the doctor on day two or three (at the latest) of symptoms occuring he'd have caught it before it turned really bad. With a little anti-inflammatory treatment early on he could have possibly prevented a visit to the hospital/ER. That's how you reduce overall healthcare costs. Catching something before it turns into an emergency is always far cheaper than the emergency itself.
Well, my experience just adds context to these experiences. The last time I needed a hospital was in Maine. I probably had to wait over two hours to see someone, as I had re-injured a slipped disc in my back. But, everyone at the hospital was amazing, especially one of the nurses, who got on crazily well with my son, and told me how much she wanted to visit Australia. Well, after about five hours I was discharged with a few doses of Oxy (Endone), and left with the contact details of the two nurses who just loved Australia. I nevee heard from them again, but my son adored the female nurse and learned that people can love you in person, but would never even return your call.
Anyway, when I got home I had a bill for over $600, mailed to me (which might not happen to citizens). But, at the time, the multinational beast was pretty close to being bankrupt, and there was no way I could contact anyone there. Maybe it's hard for a business going bankrupt to retrieve even minor debts owed to a minor subsidiary. I just wanted to pay the bill, but couldn't find the right entity to pay.
Anyway, I was in southern California and only required a new script. I turned up to a practice in Arcadia and the 'lady at the front of the desk' didn't seem to care about what I needed, but was more concerned with whether my global health insurance was 'socialised medicine', or not. Look, I said, forget the structure of the nation that covers me, try and deal with your responsibilities as a medic. She palmed ne off with some of those free samples doctors are given to, all too often.
If you get hurt or get sick when you travel, look up if you have an travel insurance on your debit card, if you have paid your travel with that card, it’s plausible that it covers if not all but some of the medical expenses. My dad got a cut from stepping on a rock and he needed to get it cleaned and get the tenaus shot and antibiotics when we were in Lanzarote some years ago, he got the money back when he had sent in all recites to the travel agency when we got home. We live in Sweden.
The list price for a feet X-Ray is in Germany €20,98, additional layer cost €5,83 per layer (GOÄ - Fee schedule for physicians). A modern X-Ray device costs approximately the same as a Taxi car, Taxi driver can also not charge hundreds or thousends for a simple and short lift.
In Finland, Sweden and Scandinavia all this is for almost free. Meaning whether You need a major surgery, it is a daily fee, that is around 40-50 euros all included. I once cut my thumb in Chicago, and as a foreigner without an insurance, the bill from hospital was really bad, and all they did was to put a band aid.
Well, I think its true to say that most Americans haven't been to Europe, because understandably, its a long way and its expensive. Then, in addition, we have to ask the question - those who DO make it over here - how many have needed to go to our hospitals? Health insurance for ME coming to the States on holiday is the one biggest headache I have to tackle, because at the end of the day, the big question is - how much would the insurance company pay out, and are they "in league" with the hospital to bump up the charges??
It is simple, in Australia I'll receive world class healthcare without having to pay for insurance, I will receive that healthcare free of charge because of mine and everyone's taxes paying for it and I will Never go bankrupt or be left with tens of thousands in debt because of a visit or stay to a hospital because of sickness or injury. The last time I went to the emergency department at the hospital my wait time was about an hour, but that was around 10 years ago. If I need to see my GP depending what time of the day I could probably see him either on the day or the next day. I have, in the past, walked in to the Drs surgery without an appointment and asked if there was a free slot available to see the Dr, I ended up waiting 45 minutes which was Ok. So given the choice of getting an injury and going bankrupt in an American hospital or getting free healthcare in Australia I'll choose Australia's health system every time.
American citizens in Australia would have to pay quite a lot, though. If you're on Medicare (or are from a country that allows Medicare to cover you, such as the UK), then it's great. American tourists need to get health insurance.
@@Danceofmasks I get travel insurance every time I go overseas, that will cover health and medical expenses and even medi-evac flights in an emergency. Also cancellations, lost luggage, among other things. But the big reason to get travel insurance is so you can actually go to some countries, like all 26 Schengen countries in Europe. They won't allow people to get a visa to visit if you don't have that insurance. The UAE and Singapore are also another couple of countries that won't allow people in if they don't have travel insurance. So if an American came here without travel insurance then they are stupid.
Sorry to hear you had an injury, Joel. You left out the best bit - that you got better. I broke my arm in three places, radius and ulna, in Hanoi, Vietnam in 1989. I was treated at the Vietnam-Germany Hospital (Viet Duc Hospital), X-rayed, bandaged, plaster cast, medication, and charged USD5.00. They made profuse apology for the charge. There were students with the professor of traumatology in ER. They picked up my battered trainers and passed them round examining them. Vietnam was still suffering dire post war poverty at the time. The only footwear they had was flip flops. Now Hanoi is flooded with cheap goods from China. When people saw me struggling (it was my right arm) they were very helpful. Btw, I got better.
im not sure i want it getting around the us, that if you have a stress fracture it is cheaper to book a flight to a random european city, get treated and fly back home than to go to your local hospital, we all know what this would lead too if to many americans figure that out...thats right...gift shops in hospitals
I have Multiple Sclerosis and the med I have to take, 1 every day, is about 300 dollars a capsule (according to an internet search). NHS means I get it for all the tax money I have already paid.
I slipped on my wet floor almost 2 months ago and the pain was initially excruciating, to the point that when it had JUST happened, I vomited (On my clean floor btw!! Lol). I just needed to lay where I'd landed for a minute and then (not being able to put any weight on my ankle), I managed to grab 1 of the giant cushions from my sofa, knelt on it and pulled myself along to my chair. I had to sit for a couple of hours, with my leg elevated and started noticing severe swelling and that the bruising was already a deep purple. ANYWAY, I rested my ankle for the 1st 5 weeks...MOSTLY (I was up and hobbling around the next day as I wanted to strengthen my ankle again, I HAD to go PEE every now and then and I also live alone and don't have anybody to cook for me or to pee for me! hehehe. LOL). I'm from Glasgow, Scotland and the ER is also a nightmare for waiting, so I didn't bother with it (I'm also a weirdo!) Lol. I suspected a broken ankle and by this point, the swelling had made my foot/ankle look twice their normal size and the bruising was all over my foot, including the sole and going up my ankle on both sides...it was a shocking sight tbh. The pain wasn't as bad as I thought it would be! My ankle DID crack every now and then as I walked and it buckled sometimes, but otherwise...I was feeling OK, and stronger every day. I hadn't told ANYBODY about my accident until 5 weeks later. I ONLY went to the hospital for the 1st time last week because that friend scared me when she told me that she's heard of TOO many cases where people have had to get their lower leg amputated due to complications from an untreated broken ankle. I live in a top flat (apartment), and had to get down 3 flights of stairs (by going down on my bum!...LMAO), to get to the car where my sister and my brother in law were waiting to take me to the ER (where I waited for just over 2 hours to be seen!). Got a few X-Rays done and was shocked to my core when the Doctor came out and told me that I'd broken my ankle in THREE places! She was stunned when she learned that I'd been walking around on it for 5 weeks lol. She told me that most people would be in ER right away because the pain would be too intense. She also said that I was made of stern stuff (the Doctors words), to have not only tolerated that amount of pain, but to deliberately walk on it?! I was also told that I don't need an operation because the bones have amazingly started to heal in their correct positions and that IF I'd went to the hospital right after it happened, I WOULD have needed an operation to get pins inserted...(at that point, with 3 broken ankle bones, they wouldn't have known how the breaks were going to heal...better safe than sorry). SO...me being a fecking weirdo, saved me from an operation! LMFAO!! I only have to wear an ankle support boot for the next 5 weeks. OH and to top it off, in the midst of trying to get around during the last week, since the X-Rays...I've managed to break the toe right next to the big one!! (possibly by putting too much weight on it?!). I was actually wondering why it hurt and the bruising had suddenly appeared again, this time around my toes. Realized just a few days ago that my toe is resting in an awkward position. It's rubbing against and irritating the middle toe! I obviously haven't gone back to the hospital as I've broken my pinky toe TWICE (on the same foot as my broken ankle so I know what THAT felt like Lol). To complete my broken bone list during my life (IF you're interested?), I'd broken my nose TWICE and because of a deviated septum and the inability to breathe through my nose, I needed a Septorhinoplasty operation but the deviated septum came back. I had 1 more Septorhinoplasty operation about a year later...(I have a history of having some sort of fits...never been told why. They happen at random times, without much warning). The day after my operation, I had a fit...and face planked right into the metal bin in my bathroom. I woke up a wee bit later and I just remember crawling to my bed. Woke up the next morning with my white bedsheets, my bedside table, my hair, hands and face covered in blood. Walked into my bathroom and it was like a crime scene!! LOL. Blood everywhere! Needless to say, I fecked my nose up again. That's 4 times now that my nose has been broken!! I haven't bothered going back for a 3rd operation. Just thought I'd tell you about my wee Saga! (ALL of these appointments/operations have been FREE!)
I know for Americans that small bit of money is laughable but for example I didn't know I needed a recommendation from my doctor to get my second dose my anti-allergy pills. So they made me pay everything. 8 euros. I called my doctor the next day and had him fill the prescription online. I went back to the phramacy(it's like 200 yards from my house) and they gave me back 6 euros. The phramacy can trade in that prescription for 6 euros from the state.
To make this clear: Healthcare (in Germany) is not "free". As an employee I pay a percentage of my wage and so does the employer. The difference to the US-System is that I don't have to be afraid about co-payings in the thousands but only about 10 euros per day for the hospital. Our system is not perfect but I believe it's better than the US-system.
Health care should be a right not a luxury. To be able to afford to honour that right for all citizens, the citizens need to pay tax. It's not rocket science but basic math/economics. Socialism, the US swear word, has got nothing to do with it. For people who struggle there are ways to compensate so that they too are able to have access to this basic human right. When "everyone" contributes it becomes a lot more affordable. Nobody knows when they will need it or for how long. One person is not more or less deserving than another.
If you live in either Australia or the UK we have a reciprocal agreement of free treatment. I was visiting my son in London when I fell and broke 3 ribs I went to the local hospital there and got free care. My sister in law was visiting Oz once and she fell from a bike and broke her arm, they called in an after hours radiologist and was put in a cast...all free. I would hate to wonder how much that would have cost us had it happened in the US.
im living in the netherlands and of cause i have insurance because it is obligatory. i have a 2 star extrain surance on top of the basic insurance cause i am chronically ill with more than 1 disease and ive insureddental care and glasses (1x per 2 year the insurance pays me a nice amount on new glasses . i need to take 20+ pill each day some of which are special and cost more. 1 pay 179 euro each month including 385 copay for the entire year which my insurance company added in my monthly cost. even tho i sometimes need expencive treatment i have never payed more than 50 euro extra in the 23 years that im sick. i go to physiotherapy 52 times a year for chronic care. do dozen times of tests in hospital yearly (echo, mri, x-rays and bloodtests) i have several braces which cost 1000+ euro each and i get insuline without paying extra. i also get care and housekeeping help and i have a mobility scooter in use (the care and scooter cost me a copay of 14.40 each month)i on top of this i get disability payment from the government plus a subsidy for rent and care and i can live comfortly of it, living in a great appartment close to Amsterdam centre with a nice garden in a great neighbourhood and my appartment building is social housing. keeping this in mind you might understand that i veel so sorry for the american people. thanx again for a great video and see you again.
i also with long standing health problems i Live around oslo in norway. Im so happy about being an european , i just wonder if i would even have a tent to live if i was american instead
i live in Belgium and sometimes when you go to the emergency room, it's packed, but they treat you considering your gravity and your age, a baby, for exemple will go before an adolecent with a sprain ankle, or someone bleeding will go before an other who have just a light fever. Just siting in the emergency room will cost you nothing, it's just the treatment that will cost you something, And for the price of the treatment in the hospital, yes, in the video it's the average and after you can have a part of the money back with the mutual health, in the end you have paid from your pocket only 25% of the price. (sorry if i've made mistakes in my sentences, english isn't my first language ^^)
I took my mate to the hospital after he fell off his motorcycle and tore open his calf muscle with the foot peg, i didn't even have time to park the car and he was already being treated, he had to have minor surgery and was still out in 2-3 hours didn't cost a cent
In the UKthe Emergency Romm is known as A & E - Accident and Emergency. I recenttly had a health probem and had to 5 consultations with different doctors,I never had to wait more than 10 minutes to bve seen, in th eUK any longerwould be a scandal. The doctors were thorough and attentive and very effisient. I had 8 blood tests just eliminate various problems and on my last consultation I hade an ECG and my doctor said that she would recommend a heart scan. I was seen in a specialist cardio facility and had a scan within a week and recommended for consultation with a senior cardologist in a specxialist Hospital (one of the top UK Heart facilitires) and had an appointment within a week. I also had some Antibiotics to clear up an infection as well as some basic heart drugs. All of that within 4 weeks and at a cost of nothing. not even for the medications.
I have wet macular degeneration in one eye. I require a monthly injection in the eye. The Ontario government health plan pays the full cost for the eye specialist and his support team. The injection prescription costs $ 1 500 CAD. (roughly $ 1 000 US) As a senior citizen I pay a deductible of $ 6.11. My provincial health plan pays the rest.
It's very obvious that he's an american, otherwise he would never have waited several days to go to the doctor! Regarding wait times, if you need to see a specialist, then yes, the wait times can be a bit long if it is not an emergency, bot for anything else outside of specialists, it's really not a problem at all!
With a referral from a Dutch doctor, he should have gone to a Dutch hospital for the X-ray. It probably wouldn’t have cost him anything … I don’t have a lot of experience with our health care system for major issues, only for small ones. But two years ago I was biking to my mom while on the phone with her when a stroke hit me and I fell unconscious off my bike (that was very scary for her, not knowing what had happened and still hearing all the voices from the people helping me …). A few minutes later I regained consciousness but I still was feeling fuzzy so I can’t recall much of those first few minutes. I was surrounded by passers by who lifted me up to a sitting position against a tree. A doctor from a nearby hospital saw it happen from her car, drove her car into a flowerbed to park and called 112 (911 for Americans). Within minutes an ambulance arrived, the bystanders helped to lift me up into the ambulance where I was thoroughly examined by the doctors and the paramedics. As I was feeling better I wanted to get home to get rest and they said they would bring me home. But I wanted to go get out of the situation (still fuzzy) and needed some fresh air and told them I wanted to go on my own. They forbid me to bike though so I walked home with my bike (which was locked by one of the passers by and he or she put the key into my pocket). The day after (or maybe even the same day, but I was out for the rest of that day) I got the referral for an MRI scan of my head to see if there was some permanent damage. Luckily there wasn’t. And I haven’t even seen a bill … That’s what you get when you build a society that cares for and wants the best for everyone Thank you for your vids, I really do love them!
In Denmark you cant just go to the emergncy room without an appointment. You have to call the emergency central first and talk to a policemen who then pass you over to a medical trained person. They will then decide if an ambulance is needed or you will have to come in by yourself..
Call the emergency central, talk to a policeman, talk to a medical trained person who can't see you and they will decide if you need an ambulance. They give me permission to go to the ER. Never mind, I just died while waiting. 🤪
My wife and I, both 72 years old payed the last 9 years 47,000 euros for our healthcare, in total. Per person about 2600 euros per year. That include all costs, a three week stay in a hospital, the installation of an ICD and an ablation for me and for my wife a treatment to cure her glaucoma and all other costs of healthcare. That is including all insurance costs also. The whole lot. Country: the Netherlands.
I wonder if Americans have ever heard of travel insurance? I checked and I found out a German insurance company is offering exactly that to US citizens. You can buy a package of insurances for one trip or insurance for the whole year if you make several trips a year.
Emagine paying 300 or more for an X-ray when they only need to press a button and it takes 2 seconds lol. Here in Sweden i pay around 10 USD every time i go see the doctor for an adminitrative fee or something and thats it. But then again the dentist can be pretty expensive here. Just paid about 200 USD the other day for 30min work on fixing some old fillings in my teeth.
My husband (British) collapsed due to heart fibrillation while visiting Czech Republic.He was brought to the hospital and resuscitated. They found out his heart condition was really bad and did triple bypass open heart surgery three days later. The cost was covered from EU healthcare which applies in emergencies like this. That was in time when GB was still in EU.
Travel health insurance anyone? Even in Europe doctor's fees can run up pretty steep without insurance (maybe not in the 100K region but even a couple of thousand can be "very annoying".
I think that guy was right below the crosspoint where a traveler's health insurance gets cheaper than direct pay. if it actually was a fracture or tendon issue that needed adjustment and a cast (air-cast in this case, I guess) it'd been worth having the insurance. lucky guy. I guess it's always a bit of a gamble, that's how insurance companies work... they might cover same-day, though. as in: dude could've bought a 35€ 7-day Schengen policy on the way to the first doc and have everything covered. worked for me with other insurances before, but pls read the fineprints on your own time. stay safe, everyone!
@MoreJps Did you notice that he got the referral for the x-ray in the Netherlands, but went for an x-ray in Germany? The European Union makes it possible. Is it as easy in the United States of America?
I guess he was in the netherlands. Imagine pay 20€ for x ray in germany! I would be, in germany we call it "Fuchsteufels wild!" (I dont know.. fox-devil angry?) x"D
American healthcare is optimized for profit. That's a very good model, because most people value their health above everything else. That's a lot of profit. In Europe, we are increasingly following this lead, to the detriment of optimizing for health. But we're not as far along yet, so you can still have some good care without going bankrupt here.
First time hearing about vague reasons. I don't know if it is regulated in Europe (unlikely) or just doctors are like this but every doctor i've had in my life explained the problem in details. Last time i was with skin problem and despite i said "ok i get it, whatever it is i hope medicine you prescribed will help" but he just kept explaining what it is, how does it spread etc. I thought i will be dermatologist when i leave that room.
One huge component of US medical charges is Insurance paid by all medical people to cover the costs of litigation. US lawyers advertise a citizen's right to no pain, no suture lines, complete recovery, no adverse effects at all, and the body of an 18 year old. US courts are full of these cases.
Hearing about those dental x-rays felt so weird. It is recommended here every 2 years, and it isn't that much radiation, but helps them detect things you can't see with the naked eye. For radiation it is like 5µSv I believe, which is the same radiation dose you would get by eating 50 bananas, or about half of the background radiation you get each day (so just by living). How much do they cost in the US?
In poland a dentist also ask for xray, normally its for free but i was visting privite dentist so i need to pay like 12 euro, and two moths ago i need it to take xray of my head and i need it fast so i go also privite beacuse its faster, and for everything i paid like 80 euro if i wait like month it would be free
Sure healthcare is cheaper in Europe. And it could be just as cheap in the US. But would US citizens be willing to pay higher taxes for a social care system? That is the real problem IMO.
My experience under Australian SOCIALISED MEDICINE. X-rays free, annual mammogram free, associated Ultrasound/Sonogram free, cancer surgeries free, chemotherapy free, radiotherapy free, annual oncology reviews free, local family doctor free, emergency treatment at hospital free. Surgeon reviews heavily subsidised, Medications heavily subsidised. AMERICA treats medicine as an industry, not a human right.
Would u ever live in europe permanently? I feel like ur the type of person that wants his kids to have the best life and you realize more and more that the us maybe isn‘t the best option.
Americans have a fixed objection to Socialism dating back to the McCarthy era and possibly before. They associate it with communism and just don't appreciate the benefits it can bring. Also the two party government, constantly rejecting each others proposals, does not help.
It's a completely different system. The Netherland has around 100 billion of health care costs a year, that totals to around 5500.- a citizen / year (total population incl. babies etc). This is mostly paid by absurdly high taxes on nearly everything, especially income. But it does mean a GP visit is "free" for Dutch citizens and cheap for non-Dutch. Long story short, healthcare is also very expensive in the Netherlands, it's just paid for in a different way.
the taxes seem like a lot. but if you compare them to places where some of the things that are covered by our taxes have to be paid out of pocket you end up around the same amount of costs for the people (and often the Dutch way is on the cheaper side for the citizens). and we get a lot back for those taxes, good healthcare, world class infrastructure, a safe society, protection from the Sea and many more things. if we had to pay for all those things after taxes the costs would be higher or our quality of live would be worse. i rather pay a little tax and have good services in return than having to pay a private business and hoping they give you decent services for your money. only thing i think that would make the tax system more fair would be a system more based on income. so healthcare, fines etc would be a % of your income and not a set amount. so someone that earns 100k a year has their fines being twice as much as someone earning 50k a year. this way all the costs that every citizen has to pay would be the same %-wise for every citizen and so it would be a more fair system.
There seems to be a lot of misconception about healtcare in Europe. I can't speak for all countries but generaly, from every paycheck there is automaticly deducted sum of money which goes to healthcare. This sum is in % so If you earn more you pay more. Depends if you are a contractor or employee this percentage might differ. For example in my country I pay 4% from my gross salary but my employeer needs to pay another 10% for me. If you do the math with average salaries you will found out thats hundreds of euros. So no, there is no free healthcare per se... There are a lot more to add into this so, if anyone have more to say or what to correct me on something, feel free to do so.
we have higher taxes in general , our income tax is higher and our VAT can reach 25 per cent in some countries. But also the extent of our social security systems and our healthcare is incomparable.
The costs he paid for are just the actual costs of things. The difference between this price and the price in the US for the same procedure is just money americans waste to line a string of unnecessary middlemens pockets. Nothing more, nothing less, you get exactly nothing out of it.
Why do you go to an emergency room if you already have X-ray recommendation for the hospital? Useless use of the emergency room makes our medical cost going up.
Only American can pay almost 100 euro for an X-ray and say it was cheap xD That only shows how terrible your healthcare system is. Europeans don't usually pay for things like that, even if they travel to other EU countries.
America is an awesome country and i like it a lot but it sucks in many ways. greetings from germany P.S.: i live in Mönchengladabch since 11 years. :-)
Ich bin als Arbeitnehmer, in Deutschland gesetzlich Krankenversichert. Anfang des Jahres bin ich schwer erkrankt und war ein Monat im Krankenhaus, ich hatte mehrere Computertomographien und wurde zweimal geröntgt, dazu zwei Mal operiert und war 3 Wochen auf der Intensiv Station. Ich mußte 280€ zuzahlen für das Krankenhaus. Auf der Arbeit habe ich mehr als drei Monate gefehlt, ich bekomme, bei Krankheit, als gesetzlich Krankenversicherter 6 Wochen meinen vollen Lohn und danach ca. 70 Prozent von meinem Lohn als Krankentagegeld. Danke für unsere gesetzliche Krankenkasse. Ich bin vollständig geheilt und gehe wieder Vollzeit arbeiten, bei meinem Arbeitgeber. Alle meine Kollegen und mein Chef sind froh, daß ich überlebt habe
Ich habe als Kind eine Krankenhaustagegeldversicherung bekommen. Je nachdem wie hoch die ist verdienst du in der Krankenhauszeit dadurch noch mehr dazu als du draußen bekommen würdest 😂 Ich bekomme "leider" nur 330€ pro Monat raus, aber dadurch zahle ich nichtmal die 280. Kostenfaktor ist sehr gering pro Jahr. Unter 40€. Und ich musste leider schon oft ins Krankenhaus.
Unser System ist gut, aber nicht ohne seine Probleme. Wenn man durch die Löcher im System fällt, wird ein Schuldenberg aufgebaut, welcher monatlich um den Beitrag und 1% Säumniszuschlag auf die Gesamtsumme wächst. Hat man kein Einkommen, wird einfach ein fiktives Einkommen herangezogen und anhand dessen die Beiträge berechnet. Schuld daran trägt die Versicherungspflicht, die man nicht umgehen kann, auch wenn man seit Jahren nicht beim Arzt war. Ein Zahlen für die Untersuchung oder Behandlung direkt beim Arzt ist nicht möglich. Auf der anderen Seite gibt es Unternehmer, welche sich privat versichern mussten, bei denen das Geschäft aber inzwischen so schlecht läuft, dass sie sich die private Krankenversicherung nicht mehr leisten können, aber auch nicht zurück in die Pflichtversicherung gelassen werden. Diese häufen ebenfalls einen solchen Schuldenberg an, der monatlich um Beitrag + 1% Säumniszuschlag auf die Gesamtsumme wächst. Soviel ich damals (als ich ohne Einkommen - die Pflege eines Familienangehörigen wurde mir ja nicht bezahlt - 14k Euro nachzahlen sollte) erfahren habe, besteht das Problem erst seit der Schröder-Regierung, welche die Versicherungspflicht so festgesetzt haben. Vorher war es auch möglich, unversichert zu sein. Nicht einmal Mitarbeiter von diversen Ämtern wussten davon und waren überrascht, als sie davon erfuhren. In Großbritannien zahlt man nur, wenn man Einkommen hat und es wird kein fiktives Einkommen herangezogen. Dort ist nur das Problem, dass die Beiträge wohl zu niedrig angesetzt sind, um die NHS zu finanzieren. Von der Pflegeversicherung will ich gar nicht erst anfangen, nachdem meinem Familienangehören wegen langjähriger Bettlägerigkeit die Amputation der Füße drohte und die Ärzte die Hände über den Köpfen zusammenschlugen, als sie erfuhren, dass ihm keine Pflegestufe gewährt wurde (während sein Bruder mit Pflegestufe hinter dem Haus Holz gehackt hat - lauf unserer gemeinsamen Ärztin, welche ihm beim Hausbesuch überraschte) und erst durch Druck der Ärzte die Pflegeversicherung ihm diese gewährte.
so for the ones who don't speak german(i speak dutch but can understand a little): He works in Germany so he naturaly gets insurance. Then in the beginning of the year he got really sick, laid a month in the hospital, had 3 röntgenfoto's taken, 2 operations and was 3 weeks on intensive care. He had to pay 280 euro's in total what is 307 USD for the hospital while still getting 100% of his loan. Over 3 weeks it will be reduced to 70% if he's still sick. He's really happy for the place he lives, and his friends are just happy that he survived. That's the rough translation, as a belgian I can say we are really lucky to have the same system as Germany and other european country's.
@@ColonelCoockie After 6 weeks He get 70% (I think it is 80%, but I'm Not Sure. This Money pays the insurance company for max. 18 Months). He was 3 Months in Hospital. You pay every day 10 Euro, but max. 280 Euro per year. But hey, good Work. Sorry, I'm a bit confused and have a cold today. I'm Not Sure If Belgium has exactly the Same healthcare system ❤️
The Americans said that setting up a healthcare system for the entire population was very complicated, impossible to do, everyone knew that in the USA. The Europeans didn't know all this, so we did it.
@@baramuth71 For the system to work as it does in Europe, we must stop considering health as a consumer good and not allow doctors and insurers to force-feed it on the backs of patients. The US mentality is not ready for this, the dollar god is above everything and your leaders prefer to enrich your billionaires than take care of the population.
@@baramuth71 as @christianc already wrote : _"complicated and impossible ... everyone knew that in the USA"_ ... when everybody "knows" that it doesn't work and everybody "knows" that social=socialism=evil, introducing such a system really is difficult if not impossible.
As a Czech citizen i payed 0,- for x-ray and i pay 0,- for analysis and 0,- for visiting doctor in general.🙂 Yes, of course i pay mandatory insurance, but if i was pensioner, unemployed, student, child, i don´t pay even the insurance and i will be still insured.🙂 But i get your point that here in EU healthcare is way cheaper even without insurance.
Here in Germany you even have an x-ray-passport, where all the x-rays are noted, because they can cause cancer and you shouldn’t have too many… That’s how much they care about health. And the sentence „I have health insurance“ is very weird for a German, it’s maybe equivalent to „I was born“. 😅 It automatically raises the question „Okay, who hasn’t…?“ Oh, right, many, many US citizens! 🙈
In addition to that, if it's not urgent, one doctor may request access to previous x-rays taken if they pertain to the same area, and nothing significant has changed. But yes, the x-ray pass makes certain that you get an x-ray ONLY if it can't be avoided and is truly necessary.
In Germany they make only an X-ray If you need one, but Not because of Money, it's because they will prevent you because too many X-Ray can be unhealthy. But WE have also some hospitals which makes it to get money 😂
Unfortunately - it doesn't work at all. Despite the fact that you all have insurance - the US spends more % of your state budget on is not because it is better - but because 66% of the costs of the hospitals are administration costs and paperwork. You have 10,000 administrations - while in Europe you only have one for a large area. I live in Norway. We have 4 administrations to maintain and build new hospitals and only one administration to buy in medicines for the whole country. That's the difference. The state builds a hospital - and pays the entire cost at once. You borrow money to build a hospital and pay it off in 50 years - That is, you pay for the hospital - at least 3 times.
The US health system is not working for everyone. It's definitely not making money for everyone. The majority of people, the cash cows are not benefitting.
The profit hospitals make goes to the shareholders, not the hospital. They need fundraisers and charity to get a new X-ray machine, new hospital wing, operating rooms etc. while shareholders get the money and run. In my country the hospitals are a public-private company funded by their own income and the money they get from insurance companies. The insurance companies forced the hospitals to work efficiently which is a good thing, but they got to much power and forced hospitals to merge and close smaller hospitals. We now have hardly any rural hospitals left, only cities have big hospitals. Our biggest city, the capital only has 3 hospitals in 5 locations. One in East and One in West from one hospital, one in South and one in Southeast from one hospital and one in North from one hospital. All are big hospital factories, like we call them, while small hospitals and clinics have closed. So a city of almost 900K inhabitants has 5 hospitals. I live in the rural west of our country and the closest small hospital (20min drive) has closed a few years ago after a forced merger. Now I have to go to one in the city which takes me at least an hour by car and an hour and a half if I go by public transport. But hey it keeps the insurance premiums low, I pay €140/month for mandatory basis insurance, voluntary additional insurance and dentist insurance. We have a mandatory deductible of €385 a year, which I had voluntarily raised to €885 in order to pay a lower premium. Initially it isn’t a wrong system, our healthcare costs are one of the lowest in the western world, but the power of insurance companies needs to be limited and well monitored.
I thought The United States was the "land of the free". What is free? Do they even charge you for breathing? If they don't it is probably because they haven't worked out a way to do it. I just went outside my home, got down on my hands and knees and kissed Australia.
I lived in Germany and now in Switzerland 🇨🇭 these countries are not only pioneers in medical research but also has ridiculously good doctors. The type of care you get is commendable.
A friend's son went to Finland (I think) as an exchange student and upon landing had severe abdominal pain. Turned out he had appendicitis and had to have surgery. My friend was dreading the medical bills but came to find out that care for ALL minors was completely free! The US is the only first world country with third world healthcare availability and employment benefits.
I feel terrible for the ordinary US citizen that has to pay so much for healthcare. Every country in Europe has a different healthcare system, but it is always affordable, especially compared to the USA. We complain too about our healthcare systems, but our problems are so much less than the problems in the USA.
Cheap in Belgian,France and Luxemburg too.
The fundamental problem in the US is that the healthcare system is run as a business and businesses exist to make profits. Most other countries run their healthcare as a government-run operation and costs are WAY less.
The fundamental problem with the US, is that all human life is not regarded as equally important, so those with money are treated well, whist those without are left to suffer, or die. That attitude permeates throughout all of US society.
you dont need healthcare system in that sentence, everything in the us is run as a business even in elections somehow they see rich or busniessman as a plus while everwhere else thats an emediat red flag for a public office job. or as george carling said it, its a coast to coast shopping mall and americans think thats just dandy :P
profit over people!
it's not health CARE in the us, it's health INDUSTRY@@markpalmer8083
Same goes for Sweden. The main difference is that instead of paying out-of-pocket (which we do to some extent), we pay many times more in taxes than americans do. We have the second highest income tax in the world, alcohol tax is 70%, VAT is 25% and restaurant tax is 12.5%, just to name a few. Pretty much everything you do in Sweden comes with added tax.
@@markpalmer8083 If money was more important they'd prioritize money over health. If you choose death over hospital bills, that's not the health care system's fault. That's your choice. The problem is that americans should save their money like they do college funds for their kids. If they had a health care fund they'd have a much easier time paying their hospital bills.
In France, when we go abroad (anywhere on the planet), we can ask for a card from the health insurance, it's free and it lasts one year. If we need to go to the doctor's or to the hospital, we pay nothing at all, our health care insurance pays for everything.
You can even go without the card, just means you have to pay for it yourself first and then declare with CPAM and get your money back :D
sorry but no. that's a european insurance card. if you need an international insurance, going outside the EU, you need to PAY FOR IT. and as to the european health care they will only pay you back what you would get back for french health care. so, if you paid more, the pay back won't cover the totality.
I confirm the card - free- allows you to get health services in the 27 countries of the E U. For countries outside EU you can get refund of your expenses, but as in some countries this is really expensive (like the US or China) it is good to take a special insurance for these countries.
Pretty sure French citizens don't have an universal health insurance like that, I think you mean the EU Health Insurance Card which only works in EU countries. That also doesn't guarantee a free healthcare for you, you just pay the same amount which it would cost you in France. Also private travel health insurances from different companies can issue a card that covers your expenses anywhere abroad but it's also not guaranteed to be free in the destination, only if the clinic etc accepts it. This means you might need to pay all the treatments by yourself and then back in France you claim it from the insurance company yourself.
@@thundercat9997 mostly, the EHIC works in Europe, for being abroad I do believe you can get additional insurance just for the trip which will result in not having to pay up front if you're outside of Europe. There is of course always the option of just coughing it up yourself and then declaring with CPAM (for which you don't have to be back in France, mind you, it can all be done remotely)
I'm a remote worker for a major US TV station that rhymes with sox smorts. I was offered a promotion, but one of the conditions was that I worked locally. So I got my "extraordinary alien" visa and set off looking for a house. But after a few months, I realized that I couldn't give up the luxury of having that social catch net if things go bad. The US is a great place to live if life doesn't throw you curveballs, better than any other place in the world when it comes to acquiring prosperity. But that's not how life works, get that curveball at a point in your life when you're just out of college, or get multiple issues stacked upon one another, and you might be screwed for the rest of your life. So I thought it wasn't worth it and moved back to Belgium, earning 1/3rd of what I was offered. But still living great, with my 25 vacation days, with parental leave, with education for my children, with healthcare, not having to worry about any curveballs. I know that if I don't go on a bender, I don't have to worry about living my life. Something that would have been impossible in the US. Sure less money in my bank account, but that doesn't matter one bit. And that's just my own situation, I also don't have to feel the guilt of how my society lets people suffer.
Time for anecdotal evidence.
In August my appendix/caecum/Blinddarm, whatever you call this little bastard, tried to kill me. I went to my family doctor, he did his thing, then ordered a bloodtest and showed me the results the next day with the words "Either I call an ambulance or you organize someone, who take you to the hospital". At the hospital another bloodtest were made, a CT-scan and the same day I lied on the surgery table and the surgeon slit me like a pig, because there was not just the appendix that made problems, there were abscesses and an unholy amount of pus. Two weeks ago a letter from my insurance company came in that said "Mr. Meirose, you owe us 60 euros".
SIXTY BUGS! for a bloodtest, a CT-scan, the surgery, medication, physical therapy, food and a stay of 5 days at the hospital (+about 60 more for bandages and meds I had to buy after hospital at the local pharmacy).
And THIS is how it should be. If someone is sick, people should care the least about what did/does it cost.
If the future of the US is young people like yourself, its outlook is sunny. Greetings from a Belgian.
In France the cost of a doctor's visit went from 25 euros to 26.50 on November 1st and people were horrified, even though the amount is later refunded to us by the national health insurance (or not, if you don't live in France).
FYI: The health care system in Germany is _not_ run by the government (in contrast to France or the UK). In fact, it is very similar to the US's system: We have hundreds of private _for-profit_ insurance companies _exactly_ like in the US. But we also have around a hundred _non-profit_ health care insurances, that are run as self-governed free enterprises that compete with each other and the private ones. Every German is obliged by law to be insured, but we can choose and switch between them as we like. Almost all doctors and hospitals are obliged to treat everyone regardless of the insurance company he has. We just let them scan our insurance card at the counter, and the billing is then done between the doctor/hospital and the insurance company without involving the patient anymore. The Government only sets the rules for the system and pays the monthly payments for people who benefit from the welfare system, like the jobless, asylum seekers, hell, even tourists - and for soldiers and its own officials. Children and spouses without own income are usually insured for free with the main earner in a family.
Why do I explain this so in detail? Because the only difference to the US is the fact that we have these non-profit health insurances - it should be relatively easy to implement these in the US as well, and voilà universal health care for everyone, without turning your system upside down!
Bonus fun facts: Germany, together with the Netherlands, is #2 in the world with regards to wait time, just a tiny bit after #1, Switzerland! Our per capita health care costs are roughly _half_ of those in the US. We pay 7.3% of our monthly taxable income for health insurance, but with a cap at ≈800€ (for high earners).
the difference is i believe, that the government caps the prices or something along those lines..
"The neighbors" do not want to help pay for a healthcare system for everyone, so the motto is "every man for himself"
But when it comes to the right of women to decide what happens to their bodies, that same neighbor will shout very loudly from the rooftops that their will is law and they want to decide what happens to someone else's body... how hypocritical!
I don't know why you alway compare that to pregnancy. The thing here is much worse. If you are pregnant in the US and you have to get that baby even when your financial situation does not allow it, the US charges you for giving birth ... That's the main reason why people don't want children, because the US is child unfriendly.
Please add the Videos ur watching in the Video description. They put so much effort in they're videos, it would be fair
A collegue of mine was diagnosed the sametype of cancer as walter white had in breaking bad (funny sidenote: is was the around same time the series aired, and he watched it in hospital)
His entire medical bill was something around 10eur per day for wifi
The comment has often been made that if Breaking Bad had been set in Europe it would have consisted of 1 episode !
1) a) you're not well
b) go to doctor & hospital
c) you've got cancer
d) your paid-for treament starts tomorrow
... next drama please !
Hi Joel , it's an interesting video. In Belgium when I go to my doctor I pay 4 euros. Normally it's 26 euros but I pay 4 euros and the other 22 euros is paid directly from the social security to my doctor. An American visiting Belgium will pay 26 euros (pierre)
See, what happened in this video is symptomatic of the US mindset. You try to evade the outrageous costs of any medical treatment that you don't go until you have no other choice. If he had decided to go to the doctor on day two or three (at the latest) of symptoms occuring he'd have caught it before it turned really bad. With a little anti-inflammatory treatment early on he could have possibly prevented a visit to the hospital/ER. That's how you reduce overall healthcare costs. Catching something before it turns into an emergency is always far cheaper than the emergency itself.
Brits always take out travel insurance to ensure health cover when abroad which even includes an emergency flight home. It’s not at all expensive,
Well, my experience just adds context to these experiences. The last time I needed a hospital was in Maine. I probably had to wait over two hours to see someone, as I had re-injured a slipped disc in my back. But, everyone at the hospital was amazing, especially one of the nurses, who got on crazily well with my son, and told me how much she wanted to visit Australia. Well, after about five hours I was discharged with a few doses of Oxy (Endone), and left with the contact details of the two nurses who just loved Australia. I nevee heard from them again, but my son adored the female nurse and learned that people can love you in person, but would never even return your call.
Anyway, when I got home I had a bill for over $600, mailed to me (which might not happen to citizens). But, at the time, the multinational beast was pretty close to being bankrupt, and there was no way I could contact anyone there. Maybe it's hard for a business going bankrupt to retrieve even minor debts owed to a minor subsidiary. I just wanted to pay the bill, but couldn't find the right entity to pay.
Anyway, I was in southern California and only required a new script. I turned up to a practice in Arcadia and the 'lady at the front of the desk' didn't seem to care about what I needed, but was more concerned with whether my global health insurance was 'socialised medicine', or not. Look, I said, forget the structure of the nation that covers me, try and deal with your responsibilities as a medic. She palmed ne off with some of those free samples doctors are given to, all too often.
If you get hurt or get sick when you travel, look up if you have an travel insurance on your debit card, if you have paid your travel with that card, it’s plausible that it covers if not all but some of the medical expenses.
My dad got a cut from stepping on a rock and he needed to get it cleaned and get the tenaus shot and antibiotics when we were in Lanzarote some years ago, he got the money back when he had sent in all recites to the travel agency when we got home. We live in Sweden.
The list price for a feet X-Ray is in Germany €20,98, additional layer cost €5,83 per layer (GOÄ - Fee schedule for physicians).
A modern X-Ray device costs approximately the same as a Taxi car, Taxi driver can also not charge hundreds or thousends for a simple and short lift.
In Finland, Sweden and Scandinavia all this is for almost free. Meaning whether You need a major surgery, it is a daily fee, that is around 40-50 euros all included. I once cut my thumb in Chicago, and as a foreigner without an insurance, the bill from hospital was really bad, and all they did was to put a band aid.
Well, I think its true to say that most Americans haven't been to Europe, because understandably, its a long way and its expensive.
Then, in addition, we have to ask the question - those who DO make it over here - how many have needed to go to our hospitals?
Health insurance for ME coming to the States on holiday is the one biggest headache I have to tackle, because at the end of the day, the big question is - how much would the insurance company pay out, and are they "in league" with the hospital to bump up the charges??
I'm very grateful to live in the EU, it's the best balance of socialism and capitalism I've seen in the world so far.
It is simple, in Australia I'll receive world class healthcare without having to pay for insurance, I will receive that healthcare free of charge because of mine and everyone's taxes paying for it and I will Never go bankrupt or be left with tens of thousands in debt because of a visit or stay to a hospital because of sickness or injury. The last time I went to the emergency department at the hospital my wait time was about an hour, but that was around 10 years ago. If I need to see my GP depending what time of the day I could probably see him either on the day or the next day. I have, in the past, walked in to the Drs surgery without an appointment and asked if there was a free slot available to see the Dr, I ended up waiting 45 minutes which was Ok. So given the choice of getting an injury and going bankrupt in an American hospital or getting free healthcare in Australia I'll choose Australia's health system every time.
American citizens in Australia would have to pay quite a lot, though.
If you're on Medicare (or are from a country that allows Medicare to cover you, such as the UK), then it's great.
American tourists need to get health insurance.
@@Danceofmasks I get travel insurance every time I go overseas, that will cover health and medical expenses and even medi-evac flights in an emergency. Also cancellations, lost luggage, among other things. But the big reason to get travel insurance is so you can actually go to some countries, like all 26 Schengen countries in Europe. They won't allow people to get a visa to visit if you don't have that insurance. The UAE and Singapore are also another couple of countries that won't allow people in if they don't have travel insurance. So if an American came here without travel insurance then they are stupid.
@@lavalamp6410 You say that like this video isn't literally about an american who went to europe without health coverage.
Sorry to hear you had an injury, Joel. You left out the best bit - that you got better.
I broke my arm in three places, radius and ulna, in Hanoi, Vietnam in 1989. I was treated at the Vietnam-Germany Hospital (Viet Duc Hospital), X-rayed, bandaged, plaster cast, medication, and charged USD5.00. They made profuse apology for the charge.
There were students with the professor of traumatology in ER. They picked up my battered trainers and passed them round examining them. Vietnam was still suffering dire post war poverty at the time. The only footwear they had was flip flops. Now Hanoi is flooded with cheap goods from China.
When people saw me struggling (it was my right arm) they were very helpful.
Btw, I got better.
im not sure i want it getting around the us, that if you have a stress fracture it is cheaper to book a flight to a random european city, get treated and fly back home than to go to your local hospital, we all know what this would lead too if to many americans figure that out...thats right...gift shops in hospitals
I have Multiple Sclerosis and the med I have to take, 1 every day, is about 300 dollars a capsule (according to an internet search). NHS means I get it for all the tax money I have already paid.
I slipped on my wet floor almost 2 months ago and the pain was initially excruciating, to the point that when it had JUST happened, I vomited (On my clean floor btw!! Lol). I just needed to lay where I'd landed for a minute and then (not being able to put any weight on my ankle), I managed to grab 1 of the giant cushions from my sofa, knelt on it and pulled myself along to my chair. I had to sit for a couple of hours, with my leg elevated and started noticing severe swelling and that the bruising was already a deep purple. ANYWAY, I rested my ankle for the 1st 5 weeks...MOSTLY (I was up and hobbling around the next day as I wanted to strengthen my ankle again, I HAD to go PEE every now and then and I also live alone and don't have anybody to cook for me or to pee for me! hehehe. LOL). I'm from Glasgow, Scotland and the ER is also a nightmare for waiting, so I didn't bother with it (I'm also a weirdo!) Lol. I suspected a broken ankle and by this point, the swelling had made my foot/ankle look twice their normal size and the bruising was all over my foot, including the sole and going up my ankle on both sides...it was a shocking sight tbh. The pain wasn't as bad as I thought it would be! My ankle DID crack every now and then as I walked and it buckled sometimes, but otherwise...I was feeling OK, and stronger every day. I hadn't told ANYBODY about my accident until 5 weeks later. I ONLY went to the hospital for the 1st time last week because that friend scared me when she told me that she's heard of TOO many cases where people have had to get their lower leg amputated due to complications from an untreated broken ankle. I live in a top flat (apartment), and had to get down 3 flights of stairs (by going down on my bum!...LMAO), to get to the car where my sister and my brother in law were waiting to take me to the ER (where I waited for just over 2 hours to be seen!). Got a few X-Rays done and was shocked to my core when the Doctor came out and told me that I'd broken my ankle in THREE places! She was stunned when she learned that I'd been walking around on it for 5 weeks lol. She told me that most people would be in ER right away because the pain would be too intense. She also said that I was made of stern stuff (the Doctors words), to have not only tolerated that amount of pain, but to deliberately walk on it?! I was also told that I don't need an operation because the bones have amazingly started to heal in their correct positions and that IF I'd went to the hospital right after it happened, I WOULD have needed an operation to get pins inserted...(at that point, with 3 broken ankle bones, they wouldn't have known how the breaks were going to heal...better safe than sorry). SO...me being a fecking weirdo, saved me from an operation! LMFAO!! I only have to wear an ankle support boot for the next 5 weeks. OH and to top it off, in the midst of trying to get around during the last week, since the X-Rays...I've managed to break the toe right next to the big one!! (possibly by putting too much weight on it?!). I was actually wondering why it hurt and the bruising had suddenly appeared again, this time around my toes. Realized just a few days ago that my toe is resting in an awkward position. It's rubbing against and irritating the middle toe! I obviously haven't gone back to the hospital as I've broken my pinky toe TWICE (on the same foot as my broken ankle so I know what THAT felt like Lol). To complete my broken bone list during my life (IF you're interested?), I'd broken my nose TWICE and because of a deviated septum and the inability to breathe through my nose, I needed a Septorhinoplasty operation but the deviated septum came back. I had 1 more Septorhinoplasty operation about a year later...(I have a history of having some sort of fits...never been told why. They happen at random times, without much warning). The day after my operation, I had a fit...and face planked right into the metal bin in my bathroom. I woke up a wee bit later and I just remember crawling to my bed. Woke up the next morning with my white bedsheets, my bedside table, my hair, hands and face covered in blood. Walked into my bathroom and it was like a crime scene!! LOL. Blood everywhere! Needless to say, I fecked my nose up again. That's 4 times now that my nose has been broken!! I haven't bothered going back for a 3rd operation. Just thought I'd tell you about my wee Saga! (ALL of these appointments/operations have been FREE!)
@@hexasides6411 😘
We have Medicare in Australia and if you get a bulk billing doctor the doctor would be free and here the hospital visit is free and the xray free too
I know for Americans that small bit of money is laughable but for example I didn't know I needed a recommendation from my doctor to get my second dose my anti-allergy pills. So they made me pay everything. 8 euros.
I called my doctor the next day and had him fill the prescription online. I went back to the phramacy(it's like 200 yards from my house) and they gave me back 6 euros. The phramacy can trade in that prescription for 6 euros from the state.
To make this clear: Healthcare (in Germany) is not "free". As an employee I pay a percentage of my wage and so does the employer. The difference to the US-System is that I don't have to be afraid about co-payings in the thousands but only about 10 euros per day for the hospital. Our system is not perfect but I believe it's better than the US-system.
Health care should be a right not a luxury.
To be able to afford to honour that right for all citizens, the citizens need to pay tax.
It's not rocket science but basic math/economics.
Socialism, the US swear word, has got nothing to do with it.
For people who struggle there are ways to compensate so that they too are able to have access to this basic human right.
When "everyone" contributes it becomes a lot more affordable. Nobody knows when they will need it or for how long. One person is not more or less deserving than another.
If you live in either Australia or the UK we have a reciprocal agreement of free treatment. I was visiting my son in London when I fell and broke 3 ribs I went to the local hospital there and got free care.
My sister in law was visiting Oz once and she fell from a bike and broke her arm, they called in an after hours radiologist and was put in a cast...all free.
I would hate to wonder how much that would have cost us had it happened in the US.
I remember having to do an MRI when I had an injury and it was my first MRI ever. I was so scared by that machine that I dozed off lol
im living in the netherlands and of cause i have insurance because it is obligatory. i have a 2 star extrain surance on top of the basic insurance cause i am chronically ill with more than 1 disease and ive insureddental care and glasses (1x per 2 year the insurance pays me a nice amount on new glasses . i need to take 20+ pill each day some of which are special and cost more. 1 pay 179 euro each month including 385 copay for the entire year which my insurance company added in my monthly cost. even tho i sometimes need expencive treatment i have never payed more than 50 euro extra in the 23 years that im sick. i go to physiotherapy 52 times a year for chronic care. do dozen times of tests in hospital yearly (echo, mri, x-rays and bloodtests) i have several braces which cost 1000+ euro each and i get insuline without paying extra. i also get care and housekeeping help and i have a mobility scooter in use (the care and scooter cost me a copay of 14.40 each month)i on top of this i get disability payment from the government plus a subsidy for rent and care and i can live comfortly of it, living in a great appartment close to Amsterdam centre with a nice garden in a great neighbourhood and my appartment building is social housing. keeping this in mind you might understand that i veel so sorry for the american people. thanx again for a great video and see you again.
i also with long standing health problems i Live around oslo in norway. Im so happy about being an european , i just wonder if i would even have a tent to live if i was american instead
i live in Belgium and sometimes when you go to the emergency room, it's packed, but they treat you considering your gravity and your age, a baby, for exemple will go before an adolecent with a sprain ankle, or someone bleeding will go before an other who have just a light fever.
Just siting in the emergency room will cost you nothing, it's just the treatment that will cost you something,
And for the price of the treatment in the hospital, yes, in the video it's the average and after you can have a part of the money back with the mutual health, in the end you have paid from your pocket only 25% of the price.
(sorry if i've made mistakes in my sentences, english isn't my first language ^^)
I took my mate to the hospital after he fell off his motorcycle and tore open his calf muscle with the foot peg, i didn't even have time to park the car and he was already being treated, he had to have minor surgery and was still out in 2-3 hours didn't cost a cent
In the UKthe Emergency Romm is known as A & E - Accident and Emergency. I recenttly had a health probem and had to 5 consultations with different doctors,I never had to wait more than 10 minutes to bve seen, in th eUK any longerwould be a scandal. The doctors were thorough and attentive and very effisient. I had 8 blood tests just eliminate various problems and on my last consultation I hade an ECG and my doctor said that she would recommend a heart scan. I was seen in a specialist cardio facility and had a scan within a week and recommended for consultation with a senior cardologist in a specxialist Hospital (one of the top UK Heart facilitires) and had an appointment within a week. I also had some Antibiotics to clear up an infection as well as some basic heart drugs. All of that within 4 weeks and at a cost of nothing. not even for the medications.
I have wet macular degeneration in one eye. I require a monthly injection in the eye. The Ontario government health plan pays the full cost for the eye specialist and his support team. The injection prescription costs $ 1 500 CAD. (roughly $ 1 000 US) As a senior citizen I pay a deductible of $ 6.11. My provincial health plan pays the rest.
Don’t dodge dental X-rays, they can detect shadows in the gum area indicating nerve damage. That’s why folks sometimes have root canal treatment.
I don't know man 80€ seems pretty expensive. I don't know if I would have to pay anything in Greece
It's very obvious that he's an american, otherwise he would never have waited several days to go to the doctor!
Regarding wait times, if you need to see a specialist, then yes, the wait times can be a bit long if it is not an emergency, bot for anything else outside of specialists, it's really not a problem at all!
With a referral from a Dutch doctor, he should have gone to a Dutch hospital for the X-ray. It probably wouldn’t have cost him anything …
I don’t have a lot of experience with our health care system for major issues, only for small ones. But two years ago I was biking to my mom while on the phone with her when a stroke hit me and I fell unconscious off my bike (that was very scary for her, not knowing what had happened and still hearing all the voices from the people helping me …). A few minutes later I regained consciousness but I still was feeling fuzzy so I can’t recall much of those first few minutes. I was surrounded by passers by who lifted me up to a sitting position against a tree. A doctor from a nearby hospital saw it happen from her car, drove her car into a flowerbed to park and called 112 (911 for Americans). Within minutes an ambulance arrived, the bystanders helped to lift me up into the ambulance where I was thoroughly examined by the doctors and the paramedics. As I was feeling better I wanted to get home to get rest and they said they would bring me home. But I wanted to go get out of the situation (still fuzzy) and needed some fresh air and told them I wanted to go on my own. They forbid me to bike though so I walked home with my bike (which was locked by one of the passers by and he or she put the key into my pocket). The day after (or maybe even the same day, but I was out for the rest of that day) I got the referral for an MRI scan of my head to see if there was some permanent damage. Luckily there wasn’t.
And I haven’t even seen a bill … That’s what you get when you build a society that cares for and wants the best for everyone
Thank you for your vids, I really do love them!
"A 𝑔𝑢𝑖𝑑𝑒𝑑 tour of the red light district" .. sure .. sure ... 😂 And yeah , his "foot" was swollen and hurt afterwards. 😏
Vals not in Holland, it's in Limburg. Amsterdam is in Holland. Both are in the Netherlands (Nederland).
In Denmark you cant just go to the emergncy room without an appointment. You have to call the emergency central first and talk to a policemen who then pass you over to a medical trained person. They will then decide if an ambulance is needed or you will have to come in by yourself..
Call the emergency central, talk to a policeman, talk to a medical trained person who can't see you and they will decide if you need an ambulance. They give me permission to go to the ER. Never mind, I just died while waiting. 🤪
My wife and I, both 72 years old payed the last 9 years 47,000 euros for our healthcare, in total. Per person about 2600 euros per year. That include all costs, a three week stay in a hospital, the installation of an ICD and an ablation for me and for my wife a treatment to cure her glaucoma and all other costs of healthcare. That is including all insurance costs also. The whole lot. Country: the Netherlands.
I wonder if Americans have ever heard of travel insurance? I checked and I found out a German insurance company is offering exactly that to US citizens. You can buy a package of insurances for one trip or insurance for the whole year if you make several trips a year.
Emagine paying 300 or more for an X-ray when they only need to press a button and it takes 2 seconds lol. Here in Sweden i pay around 10 USD every time i go see the doctor for an adminitrative fee or something and thats it. But then again the dentist can be pretty expensive here. Just paid about 200 USD the other day for 30min work on fixing some old fillings in my teeth.
My husband (British) collapsed due to heart fibrillation while visiting Czech Republic.He was brought to the hospital and resuscitated. They found out his heart condition was really bad and did triple bypass open heart surgery three days later. The cost was covered from EU healthcare which applies in emergencies like this. That was in time when GB was still in EU.
Yes, it was one of the hidden advantages the EU provided and that people took for granted. Now you are a third country.
Travel health insurance anyone? Even in Europe doctor's fees can run up pretty steep without insurance (maybe not in the 100K region but even a couple of thousand can be "very annoying".
We are not taught enough about Insurance and saving money for a rainy day.
He only got those Termine because his American instructor is considered as private insurance.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think that here in Spain, as a foreigner, he would get all that (except the medicine) for free.
I think that guy was right below the crosspoint where a traveler's health insurance gets cheaper than direct pay. if it actually was a fracture or tendon issue that needed adjustment and a cast (air-cast in this case, I guess) it'd been worth having the insurance. lucky guy.
I guess it's always a bit of a gamble, that's how insurance companies work...
they might cover same-day, though. as in: dude could've bought a 35€ 7-day Schengen policy on the way to the first doc and have everything covered. worked for me with other insurances before, but pls read the fineprints on your own time.
stay safe, everyone!
@MoreJps Did you notice that he got the referral for the x-ray in the Netherlands, but went for an x-ray in Germany? The European Union makes it possible. Is it as easy in the United States of America?
I guess he was in the netherlands. Imagine pay 20€ for x ray in germany! I would be, in germany we call it "Fuchsteufels wild!" (I dont know.. fox-devil angry?) x"D
NZ. Doctor, xray or mri free, ongoing treatment free and drugs also free. What is it with countries where it costs half your life?
I m retired now and when I have a routine visit at my doc, o don t pay. I pay mb only 5 % of the prescriptions of medecines etc
In the UK we would not be charged anything for all this.
American healthcare is optimized for profit. That's a very good model, because most people value their health above everything else. That's a lot of profit.
In Europe, we are increasingly following this lead, to the detriment of optimizing for health. But we're not as far along yet, so you can still have some good care without going bankrupt here.
First time hearing about vague reasons. I don't know if it is regulated in Europe (unlikely) or just doctors are like this but every doctor i've had in my life explained the problem in details. Last time i was with skin problem and despite i said "ok i get it, whatever it is i hope medicine you prescribed will help" but he just kept explaining what it is, how does it spread etc. I thought i will be dermatologist when i leave that room.
Welcome to Europe where you don't have to pay ridiculous amounts of money to pay for the doctor's living expenses and house 😂
One huge component of US medical charges is Insurance paid by all medical people to cover the costs of litigation. US lawyers advertise a citizen's right to no pain, no suture lines, complete recovery, no adverse effects at all, and the body of an 18 year old. US courts are full of these cases.
Hearing about those dental x-rays felt so weird.
It is recommended here every 2 years, and it isn't that much radiation, but helps them detect things you can't see with the naked eye. For radiation it is like 5µSv I believe, which is the same radiation dose you would get by eating 50 bananas, or about half of the background radiation you get each day (so just by living).
How much do they cost in the US?
European health care isn't perfect, but I would prefer to get stitched up in the EU and not be in debt for the rest od my life.
In poland a dentist also ask for xray, normally its for free but i was visting privite dentist so i need to pay like 12 euro, and two moths ago i need it to take xray of my head and i need it fast so i go also privite beacuse its faster, and for everything i paid like 80 euro if i wait like month it would be free
i had an xray in NZ the doctor told me i could wait for a free xray could be a month to wait or just pay $20 and have it done privately
Sure healthcare is cheaper in Europe. And it could be just as cheap in the US. But would US citizens be willing to pay higher taxes for a social care system? That is the real problem IMO.
If you had been in the UK, there would be no charge for the treatment and the prescription would be £9, about 11 dollars
That is the case at the moment but soon non UK persons will have to pay. Those on visas pay around £650 a year to get access to NHS
My experience under Australian SOCIALISED MEDICINE. X-rays free, annual mammogram free, associated Ultrasound/Sonogram free, cancer surgeries free, chemotherapy free, radiotherapy free, annual oncology reviews free, local family doctor free, emergency treatment at hospital free. Surgeon reviews heavily subsidised, Medications heavily subsidised.
AMERICA treats medicine as an industry, not a human right.
Would u ever live in europe permanently? I feel like ur the type of person that wants his kids to have the best life and you realize more and more that the us maybe isn‘t the best option.
I cant even imagine telling my doctor, even my dentist, "no i dont need an xray" when they recommend it.
This summer I paid about 20 dollar for a catscan of my brain. (and yes, its still there). :😜 (Sweden).
Americans have a fixed objection to Socialism dating back to the McCarthy era and possibly before. They associate it with communism and just don't appreciate the benefits it can bring. Also the two party government, constantly rejecting each others proposals, does not help.
It's a completely different system. The Netherland has around 100 billion of health care costs a year, that totals to around 5500.- a citizen / year (total population incl. babies etc). This is mostly paid by absurdly high taxes on nearly everything, especially income. But it does mean a GP visit is "free" for Dutch citizens and cheap for non-Dutch. Long story short, healthcare is also very expensive in the Netherlands, it's just paid for in a different way.
the taxes seem like a lot. but if you compare them to places where some of the things that are covered by our taxes have to be paid out of pocket you end up around the same amount of costs for the people (and often the Dutch way is on the cheaper side for the citizens).
and we get a lot back for those taxes, good healthcare, world class infrastructure, a safe society, protection from the Sea and many more things.
if we had to pay for all those things after taxes the costs would be higher or our quality of live would be worse.
i rather pay a little tax and have good services in return than having to pay a private business and hoping they give you decent services for your money.
only thing i think that would make the tax system more fair would be a system more based on income.
so healthcare, fines etc would be a % of your income and not a set amount. so someone that earns 100k a year has their fines being twice as much as someone earning 50k a year.
this way all the costs that every citizen has to pay would be the same %-wise for every citizen and so it would be a more fair system.
It is cheaper to go on a "medical vacation" to Europe.
20 euros for x-ray and 20 euros for doctor apointment sounds really expensive :D
but i guess in US it sounds really cheap :D
There seems to be a lot of misconception about healtcare in Europe. I can't speak for all countries but generaly, from every paycheck there is automaticly deducted sum of money which goes to healthcare. This sum is in % so If you earn more you pay more. Depends if you are a contractor or employee this percentage might differ. For example in my country I pay 4% from my gross salary but my employeer needs to pay another 10% for me. If you do the math with average salaries you will found out thats hundreds of euros. So no, there is no free healthcare per se...
There are a lot more to add into this so, if anyone have more to say or what to correct me on something, feel free to do so.
we have higher taxes in general , our income tax is higher and our VAT can reach 25 per cent in some countries. But also the extent of our social security systems and our healthcare is incomparable.
The costs he paid for are just the actual costs of things. The difference between this price and the price in the US for the same procedure is just money americans waste to line a string of unnecessary middlemens pockets. Nothing more, nothing less, you get exactly nothing out of it.
Why do you go to an emergency room if you already have X-ray recommendation for the hospital? Useless use of the emergency room makes our medical cost going up.
so what do all americans learn from this it is cheaper to buy a airplain ticket to europ and get health care there and when you are ok again back home
20EUR for an X ray?!
If I'd see it I'd run away from that scam and go to a place where it costs 5EUR.
All 'free' at the point of use in the UK
No! He would of had to pay £9.50 for the prescription.
Emergency Room = Accident and Emergency Department (A&E).
The difference between a social and a anti social system. Which do you prefer?
When it comes to health care the USA is everything but civilized
If you get sick in USA .. quickly get flight to EU its more cheeper
Hmm, for my last MRT in Germany I paid 700€.
I think yeah, you could struggle hard to get a bigger house or a newer car, but fundamentals should not be a struggle!
Only American can pay almost 100 euro for an X-ray and say it was cheap xD
That only shows how terrible your healthcare system is.
Europeans don't usually pay for things like that, even if they travel to other EU countries.
So nobod is going to adress the elefant in the room?? Holland in Germany🤔 Then just don't tell the dutch, we germans accept this gift😂
American comes to Europe and gets sore foot cause everyone walks instead of driving that mile to to corner shop ;-)
Ill have a say and mention it depends on how racist the doctors are because (especially with med) it still exists here in the EU
America is an awesome country and i like it a lot but it sucks in many ways. greetings from germany
P.S.: i live in Mönchengladabch since 11 years. :-)
Health is a right almost everywhere but not in USA.
It's really not a complex issue. Healthcare is a basic human right and the only country that doesn't think that is the US.
Ich bin als Arbeitnehmer, in Deutschland gesetzlich Krankenversichert. Anfang des Jahres bin ich schwer erkrankt und war ein Monat im Krankenhaus, ich hatte mehrere Computertomographien und wurde zweimal geröntgt, dazu zwei Mal operiert und war 3 Wochen auf der Intensiv Station. Ich mußte 280€ zuzahlen für das Krankenhaus. Auf der Arbeit habe ich mehr als drei Monate gefehlt, ich bekomme, bei Krankheit, als gesetzlich Krankenversicherter 6 Wochen meinen vollen Lohn und danach ca. 70 Prozent von meinem Lohn als Krankentagegeld. Danke für unsere gesetzliche Krankenkasse. Ich bin vollständig geheilt und gehe wieder Vollzeit arbeiten, bei meinem Arbeitgeber. Alle meine Kollegen und mein Chef sind froh, daß ich überlebt habe
Ich habe als Kind eine Krankenhaustagegeldversicherung bekommen. Je nachdem wie hoch die ist verdienst du in der Krankenhauszeit dadurch noch mehr dazu als du draußen bekommen würdest 😂
Ich bekomme "leider" nur 330€ pro Monat raus, aber dadurch zahle ich nichtmal die 280. Kostenfaktor ist sehr gering pro Jahr. Unter 40€. Und ich musste leider schon oft ins Krankenhaus.
Amsterdam Ed nurse: We have another tourist. Haha this one has a sore foot from dancing.
Unser System ist gut, aber nicht ohne seine Probleme.
Wenn man durch die Löcher im System fällt, wird ein Schuldenberg aufgebaut, welcher monatlich um den Beitrag und 1% Säumniszuschlag auf die Gesamtsumme wächst. Hat man kein Einkommen, wird einfach ein fiktives Einkommen herangezogen und anhand dessen die Beiträge berechnet. Schuld daran trägt die Versicherungspflicht, die man nicht umgehen kann, auch wenn man seit Jahren nicht beim Arzt war. Ein Zahlen für die Untersuchung oder Behandlung direkt beim Arzt ist nicht möglich.
Auf der anderen Seite gibt es Unternehmer, welche sich privat versichern mussten, bei denen das Geschäft aber inzwischen so schlecht läuft, dass sie sich die private Krankenversicherung nicht mehr leisten können, aber auch nicht zurück in die Pflichtversicherung gelassen werden. Diese häufen ebenfalls einen solchen Schuldenberg an, der monatlich um Beitrag + 1% Säumniszuschlag auf die Gesamtsumme wächst.
Soviel ich damals (als ich ohne Einkommen - die Pflege eines Familienangehörigen wurde mir ja nicht bezahlt - 14k Euro nachzahlen sollte) erfahren habe, besteht das Problem erst seit der Schröder-Regierung, welche die Versicherungspflicht so festgesetzt haben. Vorher war es auch möglich, unversichert zu sein. Nicht einmal Mitarbeiter von diversen Ämtern wussten davon und waren überrascht, als sie davon erfuhren.
In Großbritannien zahlt man nur, wenn man Einkommen hat und es wird kein fiktives Einkommen herangezogen. Dort ist nur das Problem, dass die Beiträge wohl zu niedrig angesetzt sind, um die NHS zu finanzieren.
Von der Pflegeversicherung will ich gar nicht erst anfangen, nachdem meinem Familienangehören wegen langjähriger Bettlägerigkeit die Amputation der Füße drohte und die Ärzte die Hände über den Köpfen zusammenschlugen, als sie erfuhren, dass ihm keine Pflegestufe gewährt wurde (während sein Bruder mit Pflegestufe hinter dem Haus Holz gehackt hat - lauf unserer gemeinsamen Ärztin, welche ihm beim Hausbesuch überraschte) und erst durch Druck der Ärzte die Pflegeversicherung ihm diese gewährte.
so for the ones who don't speak german(i speak dutch but can understand a little): He works in Germany so he naturaly gets insurance. Then in the beginning of the year he got really sick, laid a month in the hospital, had 3 röntgenfoto's taken, 2 operations and was 3 weeks on intensive care.
He had to pay 280 euro's in total what is 307 USD for the hospital while still getting 100% of his loan.
Over 3 weeks it will be reduced to 70% if he's still sick.
He's really happy for the place he lives, and his friends are just happy that he survived.
That's the rough translation, as a belgian I can say we are really lucky to have the same system as Germany and other european country's.
@@ColonelCoockie After 6 weeks He get 70% (I think it is 80%, but I'm Not Sure. This Money pays the insurance company for max. 18 Months). He was 3 Months in Hospital. You pay every day 10 Euro, but max. 280 Euro per year.
But hey, good Work. Sorry, I'm a bit confused and have a cold today.
I'm Not Sure If Belgium has exactly the Same healthcare system ❤️
The Americans said that setting up a healthcare system for the entire population was very complicated, impossible to do, everyone knew that in the USA.
The Europeans didn't know all this, so we did it.
The question is, why is it so complicated, do you have an answer to that?
@@baramuth71 For the system to work as it does in Europe, we must stop considering health as a consumer good and not allow doctors and insurers to force-feed it on the backs of patients.
The US mentality is not ready for this, the dollar god is above everything and your leaders prefer to enrich your billionaires than take care of the population.
@@baramuth71 Because the entire system needs to change.
@@baramuth71 as @christianc already wrote : _"complicated and impossible ... everyone knew that in the USA"_ ...
when everybody "knows" that it doesn't work and everybody "knows" that social=socialism=evil, introducing such a system really is difficult if not impossible.
It doesn't have to be one system for the entire United States, the states could have their own systems, as do the countries in Europe.
As a Czech citizen i payed 0,- for x-ray and i pay 0,- for analysis and 0,- for visiting doctor in general.🙂 Yes, of course i pay mandatory insurance, but if i was pensioner, unemployed, student, child, i don´t pay even the insurance and i will be still insured.🙂 But i get your point that here in EU healthcare is way cheaper even without insurance.
Here in Germany you even have an x-ray-passport, where all the x-rays are noted, because they can cause cancer and you shouldn’t have too many… That’s how much they care about health.
And the sentence „I have health insurance“ is very weird for a German, it’s maybe equivalent to „I was born“. 😅 It automatically raises the question „Okay, who hasn’t…?“
Oh, right, many, many US citizens! 🙈
In addition to that, if it's not urgent, one doctor may request access to previous x-rays taken if they pertain to the same area, and nothing significant has changed.
But yes, the x-ray pass makes certain that you get an x-ray ONLY if it can't be avoided and is truly necessary.
The US health care system is working perfectly. It makes money for everyone. The patient is seen as the cash cow.
In Germany they make only an X-ray If you need one, but Not because of Money, it's because they will prevent you because too many X-Ray can be unhealthy. But WE have also some hospitals which makes it to get money 😂
Unfortunately - it doesn't work at all. Despite the fact that you all have insurance - the US spends more % of your state budget on is not because it is better - but because 66% of the costs of the hospitals are administration costs and paperwork. You have 10,000 administrations - while in Europe you only have one for a large area. I live in Norway. We have 4 administrations to maintain and build new hospitals and only one administration to buy in medicines for the whole country. That's the difference. The state builds a hospital - and pays the entire cost at once. You borrow money to build a hospital and pay it off in 50 years - That is, you pay for the hospital - at least 3 times.
The US health system is not working for everyone. It's definitely not making money for everyone. The majority of people, the cash cows are not benefitting.
Yes. A younger generation of Americans will, I hope, rise up and start the big changes.
The profit hospitals make goes to the shareholders, not the hospital. They need fundraisers and charity to get a new X-ray machine, new hospital wing, operating rooms etc. while shareholders get the money and run. In my country the hospitals are a public-private company funded by their own income and the money they get from insurance companies. The insurance companies forced the hospitals to work efficiently which is a good thing, but they got to much power and forced hospitals to merge and close smaller hospitals. We now have hardly any rural hospitals left, only cities have big hospitals. Our biggest city, the capital only has 3 hospitals in 5 locations. One in East and One in West from one hospital, one in South and one in Southeast from one hospital and one in North from one hospital. All are big hospital factories, like we call them, while small hospitals and clinics have closed. So a city of almost 900K inhabitants has 5 hospitals. I live in the rural west of our country and the closest small hospital (20min drive) has closed a few years ago after a forced merger. Now I have to go to one in the city which takes me at least an hour by car and an hour and a half if I go by public transport. But hey it keeps the insurance premiums low, I pay €140/month for mandatory basis insurance, voluntary additional insurance and dentist insurance. We have a mandatory deductible of €385 a year, which I had voluntarily raised to €885 in order to pay a lower premium. Initially it isn’t a wrong system, our healthcare costs are one of the lowest in the western world, but the power of insurance companies needs to be limited and well monitored.
I thought The United States was the "land of the free". What is free? Do they even charge you for breathing? If they don't it is probably because they haven't worked out a way to do it. I just went outside my home, got down on my hands and knees and kissed Australia.
I lived in Germany and now in Switzerland 🇨🇭 these countries are not only pioneers in medical research but also has ridiculously good doctors. The type of care you get is commendable.