This is anything competitive, ever. There will always be a meta, and there will always be those who seek to counter it, inevitably creating a new meta in the process.
As a former Marvel Snap player, I say Marvel Snap has an additional spice: new cards are extra hard to acquire for casual players. As power spikes tend to go with new cards, it's easier to just try to counter with your older cards
@@COA5T yeah but we've had some really good metas with many competitive decks with none of them being oppressive. The oppressive decks are the ones that suck the most to play against
Love your content. But im outta snap i think. Ive had to use 4 keys each week for the past 3 weeks to get the card of the week. The cost of keeping up is frankly insane. Lives too short to line the pockets of these companys. I love your decks but always cant quiet do them because dont want to drop 100s or 1000s on a game on the off chance of being able to get enough in game currency.
I run a very similar list except instead of a toxic package it’s based around C3. I love denying their Skaar with Valkyrie T5 and I also have answers to Surtur with Shang Chi and Silver Sable. It’s also a very good standalone deck in the current meta.
I don't run a conventional Surtur deck, and I saw this a couple of times. It didn't hold up against me, but I had all of my cards in order. Late Luke Cage along with Skaar made it too punchy for the people I played.
You can play Ronan and Darkhawk together. I've done it before. There are ways to make it work, and that's also a pretty clever answer to this meta, so good show by Kin!
Step one:They release a clearly overpowered card people have to pay to even get Step two:The meta shifts to not even trying to win, just make your opponent angry. Step Three:Repeat process Every month.
Not Regis, but I think subbing Ajax and Hazmat for Mold and Ronan is a really cool idea, especially with MM’s synergy with Cassandra Nova. Maybe running Korg to give your opponent a dead draw and possibly help out Nova/Ronan would be cool
Went infinite with a affliction high evo deck. Had cyclops, abomination and thing for massive power swings that works against other decks as well a surtur. Earliest i ever went infinite too 😂
I am trying make Anti-SURTUR too, but some player drop cosmo first then Surtur next that make Sang-Chi, Red Guardian Rouge and Shadow king cannot counter it.
Here’s the thing. Snap’s matchmaking is so fucked up when I play this deck I only run across mirror decks. Just played 5 matches and every single 1 was against this same deck. People say that the matches aren’t “fixed” but i strongly disagree. Seems like no matter what deck I run, I always play against the exact same deck or 1 with really strong counters.
Anti-Venom and Mobius can be replaced by more or less anything, they are not a key-pieces. Ajax and Nova are not replaceable. Red Guardian can be replaced with Copycat (both in spotlight rn) or maybe Nocturne. USAgent can maybe replaced by Goose?
I don't have Anti-Venom any suggestions on replacements? I'm currently running a Ajax Frigga Hazardous Deck I created called Hazardous Ajax and so far I've gone 26 wins and 11 losses with it.
19:22 i think at this point we are confident enough to snap back, and opponent cannot retreat after that snap,.. in the future i think you should do that tho... maximizing win and got the content as well.. 😂
One of the things I really dislike about Snap now is the fact that countering meta decks is almost too effective. In Yugioh, you play maybe a set of 3-5 cards (9-15 in total) to counter other cards, letting you still play your own gameplan. In snap? I feel like it’s way more common to build a deck that is just geared in every way to counter one thing. It’s really annoying imo.
I don't want to sound crazy, but I genuinely believe that the match-making system matches up specific decks against each other more often. Even if it's a skew of 5-10%, my pattern-seeking brain has noticed that, for instance, I never see Arishem, and I never see Cassandra Nova anymore. I queued one match with Arishem and immediately vs Cassandra Nova into Absorbing Man. Then, another vanilla Cassandra Nova and Arishem. Now, the card is standard, but... I stopped playing Arishem today, and there is no more Cassandra Nova. Whether it's actually the bot deck they put you up against if it is always at least effective against your deck etc. I would love to see the deck tracker stats on what kind of decks each other deck encounters most often because there should be no difference...but man...I feel like there is. It's unrelated to this deck; if it's proven right once, it changes everything. Again, if I'm wrong, could someone show the statistics? It will immediately shut me up.
Might be stats on untapped if you filter correctly. I know this feels like the case but it's not true. SD confirmed it multiple times that matchmaking does not care about what cards or series of cards each deck has. I think the explanation may be much simpler. If you are playing Arishem, Cassandra Nova is simply the best play all the time while that is not the case if you are playing another deck. Cassandra works on any turn vs Arishem whereas it's only every good on turn 3 vs normal decks so people won't play her late in the game as there are better plays.
Multiple people on reddit have ran experiments over the years and have shown there's no proof to the claim. It's all just you noticing these cards more when you run a deck they counter, would've been proven by now if true
@@mglikeabossplaysMC yeah but MTG arena was cleared of game rigging until recently, unsure what new data they gained access to. It could be solo players measuring 100 games won't show the variance but 100000+ might.
Oh boy a cool new deck and it is an archetype that looks fun! Oh, I'm missing 7 of the cards for the deck and Second Dinner offers no reasonable route for players to get the cards they want. Guess I'll just keep watching Marvel Snap content and not bother playing.
I fucking hate this game now, can't unlock cards (not opened a card in 8 collector's reserves) and getting all perfect counters to whatever ragtag decks I can have. I'm done with this game.
I don't really know why my rank impacts your feelings about the game, but games are not and never have been in order in my videos. So comparing the beginning and end means nothing. In fact very often the last game I played is the first game of the video.
That is definitely one of the more cursed thumbnails you've done so far...
Love it, well done
I'm not sure why it's cursed but okay then
when "queefnugget" calls you cursed
Need a ratio here😂@@at0mly
I love that Snap meta always evolves into "no fun allowed" meta eventually regardless of what it initially looks like
Because every single meta gets so prevalent and annoying that the only option for a lot of players is to just build a deck that counters it completely
This is anything competitive, ever. There will always be a meta, and there will always be those who seek to counter it, inevitably creating a new meta in the process.
As a former Marvel Snap player, I say Marvel Snap has an additional spice: new cards are extra hard to acquire for casual players. As power spikes tend to go with new cards, it's easier to just try to counter with your older cards
@@COA5T yeah but we've had some really good metas with many competitive decks with none of them being oppressive. The oppressive decks are the ones that suck the most to play against
this is literally anti meta
The Shuri bait into Galactus was amazing
3:00 I remember seeing you accidentally favourite the portrait in the collectors reserves video 😅
that galactus play was genious
19:25 Regis, Please Focus on your Snap and not on Pokemon TCG😅, i can hear the soundtrack😗
Sick of Surtur, Shang, Cosmo, Shadow King, Arishem and so on... I think I am more sick of Snap 😂
Yeah you might just not like the game
I'm just glad it's not all bounce decks and that there are at least a few more viable options
Utterly cursed thumbnail this time, love it, keep it up.
Definitely saw this in the wild tonight or something similar
Perfect time for a Regis video drop. Literally was just wishing he would drop one and here he appeared. Is Regis truly a genius confirmed?
Maybe he's a telepath
@GhostTTV definitely could be so. Maybe He can truly see the future
Say his name and he appears... Regis is Joe Hendry confirmed.
@@Azuth65 'Cause they love him in London, and Paris, and Tokyo
America, Scotland, and Canada, and Mexico. 🔥🙌
@@suchwow.2786 I believe in Joe Hendry!
Pixel red skull showing up as your avatar is exactly what happens to me with pixel sentinel
nowaday playing skaar&surtur deck, I deeply regret skipping Cassandra Nova
No wonder i saw this deck going around... just trying to level up the card man!
Love your content. But im outta snap i think. Ive had to use 4 keys each week for the past 3 weeks to get the card of the week. The cost of keeping up is frankly insane. Lives too short to line the pockets of these companys. I love your decks but always cant quiet do them because dont want to drop 100s or 1000s on a game on the off chance of being able to get enough in game currency.
I run a very similar list except instead of a toxic package it’s based around C3. I love denying their Skaar with Valkyrie T5 and I also have answers to Surtur with Shang Chi and Silver Sable. It’s also a very good standalone deck in the current meta.
Valkyrie is doing work this season 👍🏻
9:43 one of the few times we'll see Regis play a split variant card 😂
15:40 a mastermind at work lmao that deck is smart
I bet it is fun to always have a meta deck. But the recent card I got is only Red Guardian.
Yeah I encountered this list a few times last night. So much so that my scorn discard deck got me to infinite.
I can hear the Pokémon Pocket music around 19:30
Absolutely love that Thumbnail!
Most Surtur decks I've been playing against are running Luke Cage. The current meta is just trash. Tech cards are everywhere and are way too strong
I don't run a conventional Surtur deck, and I saw this a couple of times. It didn't hold up against me, but I had all of my cards in order. Late Luke Cage along with Skaar made it too punchy for the people I played.
Amazing that Aero won the game for you by pulling Hazmat over and giving you two extra on that last game
I pushed through ranks 80 and 90 up to infinite using a variant of black bolt deck 😊
Discarding skaar turn 5 felt amazing 😂
You can play Ronan and Darkhawk together. I've done it before. There are ways to make it work, and that's also a pretty clever answer to this meta, so good show by Kin!
Thanks for the video and the deck.
Affliction is one of my fav archetypes bc it’s not as toxic as junk and requires skill
Step one:They release a clearly overpowered card people have to pay to even get
Step two:The meta shifts to not even trying to win, just make your opponent angry.
Step Three:Repeat process Every month.
Hi Regis, I don’t have Ajax. I guess I’d sub out both Ajax and Hazmat, right?
Would MasterMold and Ronan be good replacements?
Not Regis, but I think subbing Ajax and Hazmat for Mold and Ronan is a really cool idea, especially with MM’s synergy with Cassandra Nova. Maybe running Korg to give your opponent a dead draw and possibly help out Nova/Ronan would be cool
Went infinite with a affliction high evo deck. Had cyclops, abomination and thing for massive power swings that works against other decks as well a surtur. Earliest i ever went infinite too 😂
I am trying make Anti-SURTUR too, but some player drop cosmo first then Surtur next that make Sang-Chi, Red Guardian Rouge and Shadow king cannot counter it.
Nooo Regis! Recook with less series 5 cards to match Surtur collection cost.
Here’s the thing. Snap’s matchmaking is so fucked up when I play this deck I only run across mirror decks. Just played 5 matches and every single 1 was against this same deck. People say that the matches aren’t “fixed” but i strongly disagree. Seems like no matter what deck I run, I always play against the exact same deck or 1 with really strong counters.
Hey Regis have you seen the patriot surfer deck that is going around it does pretty well against surtur
what are acceptable replacements for usagent, nova, mobius, red guardian, anti venom, and ajax? (took a year hiatus...)
That’s the worst part about Marvel Snap, it’s really unforgiving when you fall behind
@@eeeeeeeethanthen don't.
Anti-Venom and Mobius can be replaced by more or less anything, they are not a key-pieces. Ajax and Nova are not replaceable. Red Guardian can be replaced with Copycat (both in spotlight rn) or maybe Nocturne. USAgent can maybe replaced by Goose?
Sorry to say it, but many of those are not replaceable. You could try a Toxic High Evo deck instead.
A different deck
I don't have Anti-Venom any suggestions on replacements? I'm currently running a Ajax Frigga Hazardous Deck I created called Hazardous Ajax and so far I've gone 26 wins and 11 losses with it.
I ran a similar deck in high voltage. Won lots of matches.
Just in time. It's bedtime 😂
I run Luke cage in my Sutur deck because of Typhoid Mary if I get rogued on turn 4 I usually still win unless I’m met with a Shang chi on turn 5
Tell me how you win against leech
@@ColHozehby doing literally anything
19:22 i think at this point we are confident enough to snap back, and opponent cannot retreat after that snap,.. in the future i think you should do that tho... maximizing win and got the content as well.. 😂
I’m missing Nova and Anti-Venom, any replacement recs?
One of the things I really dislike about Snap now is the fact that countering meta decks is almost too effective. In Yugioh, you play maybe a set of 3-5 cards (9-15 in total) to counter other cards, letting you still play your own gameplan. In snap? I feel like it’s way more common to build a deck that is just geared in every way to counter one thing. It’s really annoying imo.
Wow this is a good deck, I won twice after using this deck 👍
Great vid Regis
I wonder if it's different for UK players I haven't played a single Surtur team.
I've played against plenty lot of arasham from 90 to infinite but plenty before then.
Quality thumbnail, as always
Edging surturs is crazy
I don't want to sound crazy, but I genuinely believe that the match-making system matches up specific decks against each other more often. Even if it's a skew of 5-10%, my pattern-seeking brain has noticed that, for instance, I never see Arishem, and I never see Cassandra Nova anymore. I queued one match with Arishem and immediately vs Cassandra Nova into Absorbing Man. Then, another vanilla Cassandra Nova and Arishem.
Now, the card is standard, but... I stopped playing Arishem today, and there is no more Cassandra Nova. Whether it's actually the bot deck they put you up against if it is always at least effective against your deck etc. I would love to see the deck tracker stats on what kind of decks each other deck encounters most often because there should be no difference...but man...I feel like there is.
It's unrelated to this deck; if it's proven right once, it changes everything.
Again, if I'm wrong, could someone show the statistics? It will immediately shut me up.
yes
Might be stats on untapped if you filter correctly. I know this feels like the case but it's not true. SD confirmed it multiple times that matchmaking does not care about what cards or series of cards each deck has.
I think the explanation may be much simpler. If you are playing Arishem, Cassandra Nova is simply the best play all the time while that is not the case if you are playing another deck. Cassandra works on any turn vs Arishem whereas it's only every good on turn 3 vs normal decks so people won't play her late in the game as there are better plays.
@hunter4229 nah I saw winrate vs decks, unless I am blind.
Multiple people on reddit have ran experiments over the years and have shown there's no proof to the claim. It's all just you noticing these cards more when you run a deck they counter, would've been proven by now if true
@@mglikeabossplaysMC yeah but MTG arena was cleared of game rigging until recently, unsure what new data they gained access to. It could be solo players measuring 100 games won't show the variance but 100000+ might.
I don't know why, but this shit feels pure evil.
Not gonna lie I have played against this deck a number of times with Surtur and only lost once.
I just copied the deck from Vortex and hope Regis won’t make a video of it, but here we are lol
I was already playing Valkrye... so. Gg
Why is there no silver sable in this deck
Going up against a lot of surtur,
New deck from Regis cool!
Doesn't have most of the cards
Q_Q
Sutur sera dump deck took me to infinite sage, monkey, strong guy all go off sutur gets pretty big
Shuri into Galactus game was a nimrod deck
What would be the best anti venom replacement? Manthing? Ms marvel?
Mystique to copy usagent probably
how does cassandra become 18 at the last game?
no silver sable makes me sad regis.
How can i replace Anti-Venom?
Oh boy a cool new deck and it is an archetype that looks fun! Oh, I'm missing 7 of the cards for the deck and Second Dinner offers no reasonable route for players to get the cards they want. Guess I'll just keep watching Marvel Snap content and not bother playing.
Ham instead of Sable? 🤔
I'm a Surtur hatur.
great thumbnail
Cassandra nova and scorpion nerfs incoming. Can't let the wallet warriors suffer 🙃
Nice Galactus bait
Great, another deck a F2P will be able to play by the next year
I fucking hate this game now, can't unlock cards (not opened a card in 8 collector's reserves) and getting all perfect counters to whatever ragtag decks I can have. I'm done with this game.
Anyone got suggestions on who to use in place of Ajax?
Bien ahi vortex
An lots of surter decks run cosmo.,just add Luke an put it on cosmo an this deck is null an void
So sutur on 3, Cosmo on 4, 10 power drop on 5 and then Luke and another 3 drop on 5? Doesn't seem like this would really work....
He literally played against a deck that did what you said…guess what? He beat it
26:30 “I wanna turn off this Agony…” just shut the game down and take a nap buddy.
I really hate Surtur this meta is so boring. Buy the pass and play Surtur or dont and play counter surtur
25:32 I do😔
Replacement for USAgent
He's a hard one to replace as he hits the 4,5,6 cards really hard
I want ajax but im 100% not spending 6k tokens
Potential warning about running spider ham in this deck: if it hits skaar, it becomes a 0/11 pig automatically
Why's that?
Opponent probably had mmm on board (pig original cost is zero) or they already had skaar at zero when it got hit
@@Grayfox541 no idea, but it happened to me yesterday and I was stoked to have a free skaar without any of the work
@@SpicyboyCharlzyeah that’s a mobius effect since pig is a zero cost card base
spider ham doesn’t counter skaar, dude….
y no frigga decks y ???
Frigg dem
Dude dont really like deadpool
Yes
Now if only I had red guardian, nova, anti-venom.
Anti venom isn't necessary
19:27
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11:20
DELETE THIS VID I WAS SO CLOSE
First?
Start of the video: Rank 93
End of the video: Still at Rank 93
Glad I quit playing this garbage game.
I don't really know why my rank impacts your feelings about the game, but games are not and never have been in order in my videos.
So comparing the beginning and end means nothing. In fact very often the last game I played is the first game of the video.