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I use a CAT N car 6 days a week for work, it is absolutely fine. It had very light front damage to bumper and headlight, since November 2022 I have put 14,000 miles on it and it’s never missed a beat, you would not know!!!!
James its got wrong Headlamp in it. That's off a Trend model hence the white inside the Headlamp, the N/S doesn't. Might be worth getting another one off Ebay
Cat s is nearly impossible to sell, I got less than half retail for a 13 plate 40k fiat 500,took 3 adverts as well, trade valuation cat cars at bottom cap, which is very low,
Having recently bought a Fiat 4 x 4 recently from Jeff and knowing the type of guy he is, I took my son to check out the VW. Yes there was a slight gap where you mentioned (and?) but then again there is also the small dent. Anyway, the car, which has a full service and good MOT history, drove really well in all departments and came accross as genuine. Cam belt and water pump to be replaced, new screen, service and new M.O.T. to be carried out plus a valet so my lad bought the car. With a three month warranty it was around £3,500. Very fair price IMHO. Thanks again Jeff. See you next week to collect.
A few notes on catted cars, as I understand it. Cars are only catted if insurance companies decide to do so - typically because the projected cost of repair exceeds 2/3rds of the market value of the car. If they choose to fix it, no cat is applied. Not every car is insured against damage, so with many it isn't even a question. Cat A and B are off the table - gotta be removed from the road. B - some parts can be salvaged, A - nothing can be. Cat N (Non-structural) has damage not affecting the structure of the car. This does not necessarily equate to minor damage, though. It just means the monocoque/chassis etc probably wasn't involved. Cat S (Structural). Had a proper whack. Important bits were bent and it might have been straightened in a jig, even. Keep in mind that this is a category of salvage. Ie they'll only get catted if the insurance doesn't want to repair it. Any car might have been crashed, but if the insurance chose to repair it then it won't have a Cat tag. Some repairs don't even go through insurance. Fleet repairs, particularly. Any used car might have been repaired, the only real differences with tagged cars is you know for a fact they have And stand a reasonable chance of getting details of the repairs.
Well Cat S can be very minor in fact. Just as Cat N can be major (as in every panel on the car beat up. I have had Cat S that were a sill dented on a curb and a Cat S being a wing bolt pulled from the inner skin. You need to take them case by case. The interesting one if that the insurance dont have to declare a repaired car. I think this is very dodgy. I had an accident in a nearly new RX8 whole rear end stoved in. Fixed by insurance and Mazda Dealer bought from me and listed at full retail and does not have to declare anything.
@@ChopsGarage quite. And consider that a lot of very large fleets don't have insurance quite like private motorists do and instead prefer to repair their own cars (or pay someone to out of pocket). There's quite a number of ways seriously damaged cars get put back on the road without a cat. And virtually undamaged ones get a cat S. It ain't a perfect system. In this day-and-age you could implement something like the aviation industry does with every part being tracked and every service or repaired logged against the VIN on a computerised V5. But that's overkill.
Timing chains can sometimes be worse than a timing belt. Some makes chew up their tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less that a belt change and are more expensive to change.
@@ChopsGarageit's rare they actually even come out, last two I've repaired they just went on pics, alfa mito needed leg, rack, hub, wing, door and bit on rear quarter, they just put a cat N on it.
Having a chain these days can be worse than a belt. A lot of cars chew up their chain tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less than a cambelt change and they are more expensive to replace.
Not with Toyota,they'll last at least 200k when serviced regularly & with decent oil, many people use cheap poop oil. 6,000m is ok & it'll go even further.
Not understanding all the hate for Cat cars on here. Insurerers' criteria for fixing cars are ridiculous - all new parts to be used, stuff that could be repaired to be replaced etc drives the cost of repairs up. So something like a cracked bumper that would cost you between £100-400 if you sorted it yourself or through a local body shop of your choice is suddenly £2500 and the car deemed uneconomical to repair. Of course it drives up the cost of your future premiums and of insurance premiums generally.
Think at the lower end of the market sub 5K a Cat car is worth considering providing it has been fixed properly but lots of bodgers out there and not always easy to tell! Having watched a lot SRUK (Rob & Chris) videos I'd buy a salvage car from them but not everyone is to their standards.
Had a CAT N in the past and the repair done was so good you wouldn't k ow it had a knock in the past. Ran absolutely fine and did save money if I was going to get a clean titled car with same mileage spec etc. Just need to be careful to make sure repair was done properly and not a bodge job.
Exactly. There is no reason they will not be as mechanically sound. In fact often better as people part ex faulty cars. Cat cars where normally being used and no being offloaded.
Back in 2016 my first car was a Cat C Corsa, nothing to worry about! Compared insurance between a non cat c car and the one I purchased, no difference at all! I saved some money by buying the cat c car!
Nothing wrong with a cat car if repaired properly. I have a cat S Peugeot 208 14reg 68k 1.6 diesel decent model I paid 3k. Clean title car same millage was around 6k! The garage a got it from showed all me photos of all the damage and told me what got changed/repaired. There has been no change in insurance premium and LV have told me even though it’s a cat S it’s insurance valve if total loss would be 5.8k
This video was really funny to me and quite enlightening - In the first half, you had me going to autotrader looking for Cat N damaged cars that have been repaired, and then when the golf shows up, you explain a little trick of the trade that has now gotten me worried for checking it, because dealers might be trying to pass of mechanically rubbish cars as Cat N - Well which is it! haha
You missunderstood. Dealers (and public) sometimes damage cars and put them in the Copart Auctions. Unless you are buying direct from the auction rather than retail thats not a risk
It is, i got a 2015 Icon model 1.3L CVT 5 dr with 88,000 FTSH (Full Toyota Service History) for £5,550, it too had damage on the N/S/F but not through ins like that white Yaris. It's real clean & drives smooth as silk. My model came with a silly emergency tyre inflator, so i go a full size spare wheel.
I bought a cat N got a good deal because people just walked away from it when they were told, I bought it for half its normal price because of cat and the fact they could not get rid of it, It was cat N 13 years ago, you would not know if not told, what does it matter, I prefer them at least you get a good price.
Hi James I bought a car checked it on car vertical show all clear then was checked on hip/cap showing up theft recovery so I won’t be using them again !!!
yes that is true but CAR VERTICAL clearly states checked for theft all these different countries and if they can get that wrong as far i am concerned its an unreliable check and potentially cost people a lot of money so i think you should warn people the check may not be accurate @@ChopsGarage
Top of the headlamp on that Yaris is very common, don't think you'll get that out as i got one. Toyota made that 6th gear ratio much higher for good mpg. Timing chains last 200k at least with regular oil changes with decent oil not cheap stuff,max 5k & it'll go on further.
My son collected the car (V.W. Golf estate) at the end of lask week and drove it to Cornwall where he lives. New windscreen, MOT, small service, cam belt/water pump, full service history. Three moth warranty. No problems with the insurance side of things. Can't believe some of the unwarranted impolite comments on here especially when made by people.
Don't need to worry about a cam belt, belts a lot better than chains mate, as you've found out, yaris chains are usually OK tho, can rattle at high miles.
@@lawncare-4u849 think is valve train needs to be as light as possible for the high standards of performance required, that's why the chains are single row and thin, doesn't help longevity tho, I've had bad experiences with chains, a newish mini blew up and your always getting cam timing problems with chain stretch, modern cam belts are kevlar and don't go as often as they did.
On that Yaris...A cheap ebay side decal on a white car will appeal to youngsters no end. Jus' saying! Adendum. The black rubbing strip should be body coloured.
Good idea to punt some out basically as is, I've done loads like that, just give it a basic check, not everyone wants mint and warranty at a high price.
@@ChopsGarage done 1000s over the years like that bud, maybe a separate area, just say p ex to clear, as long as there cheap enough you'll sell em, if they look like moaning Minnies just fob them off, if they come back just say your not willing to do anything and it's a refund, it'll be another string to your bow.
@@ChopsGarage I'm just doing one now bud, 57 colt, 350,tyre,wheel trims, up at 995,tbh it'll be better than a 19 plate c3 I've got and a lot less hassle, if it's 500 quid it's a wage.
Insurance companies are hilarious! I have a 2001 Saturn LW300 which is basically a rebadged Vectra B. It was purchased new and is in immaculate condition. It is semi-retired and used mostly as an extra vehicle and dog taxi. Last year it had a minor collision with a suicidal deer and the front bumper cover was cracked and the hood, or bonnet, was dented. The insurance company totaled the vehicle because of the damage stating that replacement parts were unobtainable and the vehicle was over 20 years old with over 100,000 miles. Since the vehicle was totaled I accepted a check for $4,150 and subsequently purchased the vehicle back from the insurance company for $900 and had a used bumper cover and hood put on for $1050.00. I am unable to get full coverage insurance because the vehicle has a salvage title. Although I would never sell it it has the stigma of a "SALVAGE/REBUILT" title and can't be insured for anything more than liability coverage. The damage was little more than cosmetic and didn't impact the way the vehicle drove.
Stupidest write off I ever knew was because of a snapped key in the ignition. Mate (part time car dealer) bought it for nowt at auction, I got a full lock set off a scrapper and he sold the car on for 5 x what he paid. Insurers can be total muppets writing stuff off!
If you specifically ask any seller has to declare known damage especially insurance recorded repairs, best thing to do is a history check, but non insurance repairs are not recorded . Yes you want to know if the car has been repaired to an extent, but why is it worth less? The answer is it’s insurable value is lower, so if you pay full retail price and it’s subject to a further claim and it’s a total loss then you’ll get less money back. Buying such cars is not just about damage repair, it’s about paying the right price. Don’t expect full price when you sell (as some do). The car is not the issue, unless badly repaired, it’s about value.
I've got a Cat S car (probably should've been a Cat N as all the damage was bolt-on panels), and you'd be hard pressed to know where the damage was. Id have no real concern buying another Cat car as long as I could properly check it over (my only concern, and its a slight concern, would be selling it on once it was time to sell it, as I'd image it would take longer to sell)
Cat s cars are nearly impossible to sell at any price, last on I had it went for 60%less than auto trader retail, kiss of death saying salvage on v5, good look anyway.
@@ChopsGarage I’m the one who crashed it I’m afraid (with the insurance payout and everything though I think I’m doing alright, and I’m not planning on selling just now anyways)
@@roystonvehicles9129 no plan on selling just now! I think I’ll do ok though when I come to sell as it’s a bit of a classic (I can also show pictures of the car when it was damaged, and that the chassis legs are dead straight)
I have a question, I just bought a car last week, and the start stop is not activating, I'm having the battery checked today from a local garage, if the battery is deemed unhealthy or 75% chargerd can I make the dealer replace it. I don't know what rights I have, the car starts ok. Thanks
Hi. If the car was sold , listed as having Stop Start as a feature, this early on they would be liable. It will be a non stop start, cheaper battery fitted or its just too old. If it was NOT listed as having stop start and that was not sold to you as a feature (or you stated during sale it was something you needed) they would not necessarily as the car is still fit for purpose.
It only works after a long run, the ecu monitors if the battery is good enough to re start the car, battery could be fine but waiting to be fully charged after say 15 miles, but yes probably not got the proper stop start battery on, I find it's an annoying feature anyway.
@@brianbickle7395 I don't know but I have the battery test results, Rating. 800CCA Measured 480CCA VOLTS 12.53 v Int R. 4.66 Life 40 % So it's approximately 75% charged? That would explain it. They did recommend replacing it.
@@chrispeacocks836 I’d check the handbook for the procedure to disable stop/start or renew it first before spending on a new battery but that’s just me. OrRUclips if there’s no handbook!
Great video and content. That Toyota Yaris is a nice car. I would own a cat car if the work done probably. Hope to see you do some collabs with shifting_metal and High Peak Autos
@@ChopsGarage It wouldn’t worry me too much if a good repair was made and the price was right, only concern I would have would be that I’ve heard insurance companies raise the premium on a Cat recorded vehicle, I know I’ve been ask when requesting a quote about its Cat status
In all of these endless, tedious Car Vertical ads, I’ve never once seen damage pictures of a Cat car that’s the one actually being checked - has to be close to over-selling!?
You will only get pics for cars that have been listed online for sale in damaged state. Hence why we say sometimes not that you absolutely will. I rarely buy Cat Cars now but when I fixed cars up myself they all had a it as all came via Salvage Auctions. You can only show pictures if they exist.
Your halo has slipped 😂felt sorry for you last week when you we’re getting grief of the guy after six months on the warranty But sorry selling scrap you asking for trouble 😂😊🤣
Cat N makes perfect sense if you buy it to run it for a long time. You pay 15k for a 20k car and save 5k. You later sell the worn out car for 1.5 when it would have been 2k. Saving of 4500. But don't buy one for short term - they're hard to shift.
@@ChopsGarage it's like saying "this is how to save 25% on your shopping" and it's all short-dated, which needs to be eaten same day. You're not comparing apples with apples (no pun intended). If what I'm saying is rubbish you wouldn't legally need to declare if it's a cat vehicle to any buyer - as it would be so insignificant that you don't have to tell them.
@@Rapscallion2009 100% agree - worthwhile if you're running it into the ground. Otherwise it's not the same as buying a non-cat vehicle, it's a different product with a different market and different resale value. Many buyers will flat out refuse any cat vehicle and isn't fully transparent to present it as a discount, as though you're getting 25% a normal car.
I'd not do cat cars in your position mate, you've got a good rep and you don't want your website cluttered up with cat cars, customers will think there all damaged, but I know you'll say there OK anyway, ha, ha.
Members of the public do need to tell you about the car if you ask a specific question. If you ask if it has been in an accident and they know it has, they must be truthful. Get it in writing to be sure, as it is part of the contract of sale. Also, I see this channel has become an advert. So I will be unsubscribing.
Timing chains can sometimes be worse than a timing belt. Some makes chew up their tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less that a belt change and are more expensive to change.
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I use a CAT N car 6 days a week for work, it is absolutely fine. It had very light front damage to bumper and headlight, since November 2022 I have put 14,000 miles on it and it’s never missed a beat, you would not know!!!!
Yes don't really understand stigma
James its got wrong Headlamp in it. That's off a Trend model hence the white inside the Headlamp, the N/S doesn't. Might be worth getting another one off Ebay
Cat s is nearly impossible to sell, I got less than half retail for a 13 plate 40k fiat 500,took 3 adverts as well, trade valuation cat cars at bottom cap, which is very low,
The panel/ bumper gaps on the ds front corner stood out a mile before you mentioned that it had been damaged.
Having recently bought a Fiat 4 x 4 recently from Jeff and knowing the type of guy he is, I took my son to check out the VW. Yes there was a slight gap where you mentioned (and?) but then again there is also the small dent. Anyway, the car, which has a full service and good MOT history, drove really well in all departments and came accross as genuine. Cam belt and water pump to be replaced, new screen, service and new M.O.T. to be carried out plus a valet so my lad bought the car. With a three month warranty it was around £3,500. Very fair price IMHO. Thanks again Jeff. See you next week to collect.
@@paulhebblethwaite7168 Who’s Jeff?
Mr Chops Garage. And he's no Arthur (Daley!) lol@@KevinSimpson_576
@@paulhebblethwaite7168 oh, his names James?
Well spotted. But he does look like a Jeff all the same.lol@@KevinSimpson_576
A few notes on catted cars, as I understand it.
Cars are only catted if insurance companies decide to do so - typically because the projected cost of repair exceeds 2/3rds of the market value of the car. If they choose to fix it, no cat is applied. Not every car is insured against damage, so with many it isn't even a question.
Cat A and B are off the table - gotta be removed from the road. B - some parts can be salvaged, A - nothing can be.
Cat N (Non-structural) has damage not affecting the structure of the car. This does not necessarily equate to minor damage, though. It just means the monocoque/chassis etc probably wasn't involved.
Cat S (Structural). Had a proper whack. Important bits were bent and it might have been straightened in a jig, even.
Keep in mind that this is a category of salvage. Ie they'll only get catted if the insurance doesn't want to repair it. Any car might have been crashed, but if the insurance chose to repair it then it won't have a Cat tag. Some repairs don't even go through insurance. Fleet repairs, particularly.
Any used car might have been repaired, the only real differences with tagged cars is you know for a fact they have And stand a reasonable chance of getting details of the repairs.
Well Cat S can be very minor in fact. Just as Cat N can be major (as in every panel on the car beat up.
I have had Cat S that were a sill dented on a curb and a Cat S being a wing bolt pulled from the inner skin.
You need to take them case by case.
The interesting one if that the insurance dont have to declare a repaired car. I think this is very dodgy. I had an accident in a nearly new RX8 whole rear end stoved in. Fixed by insurance and Mazda Dealer bought from me and listed at full retail and does not have to declare anything.
@@ChopsGarage quite. And consider that a lot of very large fleets don't have insurance quite like private motorists do and instead prefer to repair their own cars (or pay someone to out of pocket). There's quite a number of ways seriously damaged cars get put back on the road without a cat. And virtually undamaged ones get a cat S.
It ain't a perfect system. In this day-and-age you could implement something like the aviation industry does with every part being tracked and every service or repaired logged against the VIN on a computerised V5. But that's overkill.
Timing chains can sometimes be worse than a timing belt.
Some makes chew up their tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less that a belt change and are more expensive to change.
Not on Toyotas unless using rubbish oil every 10,000m
I had a cat n. When repairing I found the near side chassis leg was bent. Insurance assessors don't look beyond panel damage.
Well to be fair they do as many a categorised as Cat S. But I agree there are those that are miss classified.
@@ChopsGarageit's rare they actually even come out, last two I've repaired they just went on pics, alfa mito needed leg, rack, hub, wing, door and bit on rear quarter, they just put a cat N on it.
Having a chain these days can be worse than a belt.
A lot of cars chew up their chain tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less than a cambelt change and they are more expensive to replace.
Not with Toyota,they'll last at least 200k when serviced regularly & with decent oil, many people use cheap poop oil. 6,000m is ok & it'll go even further.
Not understanding all the hate for Cat cars on here. Insurerers' criteria for fixing cars are ridiculous - all new parts to be used, stuff that could be repaired to be replaced etc drives the cost of repairs up. So something like a cracked bumper that would cost you between £100-400 if you sorted it yourself or through a local body shop of your choice is suddenly £2500 and the car deemed uneconomical to repair. Of course it drives up the cost of your future premiums and of insurance premiums generally.
Think at the lower end of the market sub 5K a Cat car is worth considering providing it has been fixed properly but lots of bodgers out there and not always easy to tell! Having watched a lot SRUK (Rob & Chris) videos I'd buy a salvage car from them but not everyone is to their standards.
Yes sub 5k would be my recommendation
Absolutely no one is as good as Rob and Chris they do every last little thing.
Had a CAT N in the past and the repair done was so good you wouldn't k ow it had a knock in the past. Ran absolutely fine and did save money if I was going to get a clean titled car with same mileage spec etc. Just need to be careful to make sure repair was done properly and not a bodge job.
Exactly. There is no reason they will not be as mechanically sound. In fact often better as people part ex faulty cars. Cat cars where normally being used and no being offloaded.
Back in 2016 my first car was a Cat C Corsa, nothing to worry about! Compared insurance between a non cat c car and the one I purchased, no difference at all! I saved some money by buying the cat c car!
I don't know where rumours come from
@@ChopsGarage keyboard warriors
On auto trader advert comes up a nice big, S, D, N, or S, nobody rings then....
Nothing wrong with a cat car if repaired properly.
I have a cat S Peugeot 208 14reg 68k 1.6 diesel decent model I paid 3k. Clean title car same millage was around 6k!
The garage a got it from showed all me photos of all the damage and told me what got changed/repaired.
There has been no change in insurance premium and LV have told me even though it’s a cat S it’s insurance valve if total loss would be 5.8k
Yes had customers get more from Insurance than I charged them.
This video was really funny to me and quite enlightening - In the first half, you had me going to autotrader looking for Cat N damaged cars that have been repaired, and then when the golf shows up, you explain a little trick of the trade that has now gotten me worried for checking it, because dealers might be trying to pass of mechanically rubbish cars as Cat N - Well which is it! haha
You missunderstood. Dealers (and public) sometimes damage cars and put them in the Copart Auctions. Unless you are buying direct from the auction rather than retail thats not a risk
@@ChopsGarage you’re right I did misunderstand, thanks for clearing up mate! Back to Autotrader ..!
People are probably concerned about insuring the car. And the damage/repair.
I unknowingly bought a damaged repair car. When I tried to sell knowone wanted it. I paid £1600 almost sold straight away. Only got £300
Another great video James. The little toyota looks like really good value for the money.
It is, i got a 2015 Icon model 1.3L CVT 5 dr with 88,000 FTSH (Full Toyota Service History) for £5,550, it too had damage on the N/S/F but not through ins like that white Yaris. It's real clean & drives smooth as silk. My model came with a silly emergency tyre inflator, so i go a full size spare wheel.
I bought a cat N got a good deal because people just walked away from it when they were told, I bought it for half its normal price because of cat and the fact they could not get rid of it, It was cat N 13 years ago, you would not know if not told, what does it matter, I prefer them at least you get a good price.
Exactly who with any sense cares 13 years old
Hi James I bought a car checked it on car vertical show all clear then was checked on hip/cap showing up theft recovery so I won’t be using them again !!!
Ok. I find they all pick up on different things as use different data bases.
yes that is true but CAR VERTICAL clearly states checked for theft all these different countries and if they can get that wrong as far i am concerned its an unreliable check and potentially cost people a lot of money so i think you should warn people the check may not be accurate @@ChopsGarage
Top of the headlamp on that Yaris is very common, don't think you'll get that out as i got one. Toyota made that 6th gear ratio much higher for good mpg. Timing chains last 200k at least with regular oil changes with decent oil not cheap stuff,max 5k & it'll go on further.
It will wet sand out , 800 then 1200 then polish
@@ChopsGarage I'll give it a go when i see you've done yours. 😃 Mine aint that bad as yours.
My son collected the car (V.W. Golf estate) at the end of lask week and drove it to Cornwall where he lives. New windscreen, MOT, small service, cam belt/water pump, full service history. Three moth warranty. No problems with the insurance side of things. Can't believe some of the unwarranted impolite comments on here especially when made by people.
Cheers Paul.
2004 mark5 golf gt tdi 2.0ltr 16v 140bhp,,,bought 3 years ago £1,800 91k miles ;-) ,,,now 102k still very happy
Thats a nice simple engine
Don't need to worry about a cam belt, belts a lot better than chains mate, as you've found out, yaris chains are usually OK tho, can rattle at high miles.
? Double chain even better as on A Shogun!
@@lawncare-4u849 think is valve train needs to be as light as possible for the high standards of performance required, that's why the chains are single row and thin, doesn't help longevity tho, I've had bad experiences with chains, a newish mini blew up and your always getting cam timing problems with chain stretch, modern cam belts are kevlar and don't go as often as they did.
@@roystonvehicles9129 I want reliability, not performance for work, although is a Vr6 belt or chain?...
@@lawncare-4u849 chain, 2 of them I think.
On that Yaris...A cheap ebay side decal on a white car will appeal to youngsters no end. Jus' saying! Adendum. The black rubbing strip should be body coloured.
How you get that dent in the wing and a smashed screen together i dont know.
Random eh
Good idea to punt some out basically as is, I've done loads like that, just give it a basic check, not everyone wants mint and warranty at a high price.
I'll give it a go
@@ChopsGarage done 1000s over the years like that bud, maybe a separate area, just say p ex to clear, as long as there cheap enough you'll sell em, if they look like moaning Minnies just fob them off, if they come back just say your not willing to do anything and it's a refund, it'll be another string to your bow.
I would not even change the cam belt just sell it with the belt kit in the boot, leave it to the customer to get it sorted.
@@johndilloway9762 your right bud
@@ChopsGarage I'm just doing one now bud, 57 colt, 350,tyre,wheel trims, up at 995,tbh it'll be better than a 19 plate c3 I've got and a lot less hassle, if it's 500 quid it's a wage.
Insurance companies are hilarious!
I have a 2001 Saturn LW300 which is basically a rebadged Vectra B.
It was purchased new and is in immaculate condition.
It is semi-retired and used mostly as an extra vehicle and dog taxi.
Last year it had a minor collision with a suicidal deer and the front bumper cover was cracked and the hood, or bonnet, was dented.
The insurance company totaled the vehicle because of the damage stating that replacement parts were unobtainable and the vehicle was over 20 years old with over 100,000 miles.
Since the vehicle was totaled I accepted a check for $4,150 and subsequently purchased the vehicle back from the insurance company for $900 and had a used bumper cover and hood put on for $1050.00.
I am unable to get full coverage insurance because the vehicle has a salvage title.
Although I would never sell it it has the stigma of a "SALVAGE/REBUILT" title and can't be insured for anything more than liability coverage.
The damage was little more than cosmetic and didn't impact the way the vehicle drove.
They write off for anything
Stupidest write off I ever knew was because of a snapped key in the ignition. Mate (part time car dealer) bought it for nowt at auction, I got a full lock set off a scrapper and he sold the car on for 5 x what he paid. Insurers can be total muppets writing stuff off!
Yaris is always the one going 15 mph with a massive queue behind it. XD
If you specifically ask any seller has to declare known damage especially insurance recorded repairs, best thing to do is a history check, but non insurance repairs are not recorded . Yes you want to know if the car has been repaired to an extent, but why is it worth less? The answer is it’s insurable value is lower, so if you pay full retail price and it’s subject to a further claim and it’s a total loss then you’ll get less money back. Buying such cars is not just about damage repair, it’s about paying the right price. Don’t expect full price when you sell (as some do). The car is not the issue, unless badly repaired, it’s about value.
Yes buy it low, expect to sell it low, but by the same percentages.
@@ChopsGarage exactly right!
Mk6 Golf estate tdi's are generally really reliable
So how many of these have you own or sold?….
I've got a Cat S car (probably should've been a Cat N as all the damage was bolt-on panels), and you'd be hard pressed to know where the damage was. Id have no real concern buying another Cat car as long as I could properly check it over (my only concern, and its a slight concern, would be selling it on once it was time to sell it, as I'd image it would take longer to sell)
It all comes down to price , they sell as long as the discount to reflect is there. Again thats not an issue as long as you bought with the discount
Cat s cars are nearly impossible to sell at any price, last on I had it went for 60%less than auto trader retail, kiss of death saying salvage on v5, good look anyway.
@@ChopsGarage I’m the one who crashed it I’m afraid (with the insurance payout and everything though I think I’m doing alright, and I’m not planning on selling just now anyways)
@@roystonvehicles9129 no plan on selling just now! I think I’ll do ok though when I come to sell as it’s a bit of a classic (I can also show pictures of the car when it was damaged, and that the chassis legs are dead straight)
@@sambarker7930 what car is it bud?
I have a question, I just bought a car last week, and the start stop is not activating, I'm having the battery checked today from a local garage, if the battery is deemed unhealthy or 75% chargerd can I make the dealer replace it. I don't know what rights I have, the car starts ok.
Thanks
Hi. If the car was sold , listed as having Stop Start as a feature, this early on they would be liable. It will be a non stop start, cheaper battery fitted or its just too old. If it was NOT listed as having stop start and that was not sold to you as a feature (or you stated during sale it was something you needed) they would not necessarily as the car is still fit for purpose.
It only works after a long run, the ecu monitors if the battery is good enough to re start the car, battery could be fine but waiting to be fully charged after say 15 miles, but yes probably not got the proper stop start battery on, I find it's an annoying feature anyway.
Did the previous owner de activate it as can be done???
@@brianbickle7395 I don't know but I have the battery test results,
Rating. 800CCA
Measured 480CCA
VOLTS 12.53 v
Int R. 4.66
Life 40 %
So it's approximately 75% charged? That would explain it. They did recommend replacing it.
@@chrispeacocks836 I’d check the handbook for the procedure to disable stop/start or renew it first before spending on a new battery but that’s just me. OrRUclips if there’s no handbook!
Nothing wrong with the headlights on the yaris James. They don't need buffed.
Cheers
Is it normal? Mine aint that bad.
Great video and content. That Toyota Yaris is a nice car. I would own a cat car if the work done probably. Hope to see you do some collabs with shifting_metal and High Peak Autos
Thanks! Will do!
Crumbs! You used to notice the first Yaris, they seemed everywhere. I barely recognise that one.(Not a criticism, just a ponder)
Old ones live forever
Good video 👍👍👍👍
Any update on Gas guy's BMW?
Not started yet bud
So they made the Yaris look like a turd as well. This is what corporations do. They destroy everything.
Seems you don't have a lot nice to say about anything really
Cleaned up, that Golf will go quickly. It'll be reasonably priced car for someone with kids or dogs......
I wouldn't want a cat car if it was offered for free personally.
Never understand this. Interesting to me
@@ChopsGarage
It wouldn’t worry me too much if a good repair was made and the price was right, only concern I would have would be that I’ve heard insurance companies raise the premium on a Cat recorded vehicle, I know I’ve been ask when requesting a quote about its Cat status
I had one but I saw the damage it had that caused the write off. I’d only have another on the same basis.
Another good video James 🚗🚙🚘👍👍👍👍⭐️⭐️⭐️👏👏👏👏
Thanks Jimmy mate
You could do with those lads full time mate,handy lads
In all of these endless, tedious Car Vertical ads, I’ve never once seen damage pictures of a Cat car that’s the one actually being checked - has to be close to over-selling!?
You will only get pics for cars that have been listed online for sale in damaged state. Hence why we say sometimes not that you absolutely will. I rarely buy Cat Cars now but when I fixed cars up myself they all had a it as all came via Salvage Auctions. You can only show pictures if they exist.
Hi james,toyota is great car but 6 speed is no good if you go into wales,i recon you wont be outa 4th 😂😂
bread and butter job james
cat cars are scrap cars and be treated as such broken for parts only
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Rubbish! 🤦
Bet you also think a car magically becomes junk the second the clock goes over 100k miles...
I like your enthusiasm but it is a scrap car 🤷do the right thing scrap it
🤣🤣 bet car you drive has had as much damage as this in past
@@ChopsGarage I
Your halo has slipped 😂felt sorry for you last week when you we’re getting grief of the guy after six months on the warranty
But sorry selling scrap you asking for trouble 😂😊🤣
@Southerngeordie287 nope ,never owned a halo. To say its scrap for a windscreen and wing us nothing short of idiotic
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You're not saving 25% though, it's a Cat N vehicle. You're not saving money - you'll get less when you sell it. Misleading title IMO
He was referring to the buyer
Rubbish. You are saving 25% for same age and year and resale the 25% becomes nothing sub 3k.
Cat N makes perfect sense if you buy it to run it for a long time.
You pay 15k for a 20k car and save 5k. You later sell the worn out car for 1.5 when it would have been 2k. Saving of 4500. But don't buy one for short term - they're hard to shift.
@@ChopsGarage it's like saying "this is how to save 25% on your shopping" and it's all short-dated, which needs to be eaten same day. You're not comparing apples with apples (no pun intended). If what I'm saying is rubbish you wouldn't legally need to declare if it's a cat vehicle to any buyer - as it would be so insignificant that you don't have to tell them.
@@Rapscallion2009 100% agree - worthwhile if you're running it into the ground. Otherwise it's not the same as buying a non-cat vehicle, it's a different product with a different market and different resale value. Many buyers will flat out refuse any cat vehicle and isn't fully transparent to present it as a discount, as though you're getting 25% a normal car.
I'd not do cat cars in your position mate, you've got a good rep and you don't want your website cluttered up with cat cars, customers will think there all damaged, but I know you'll say there OK anyway, ha, ha.
more Range Rover content please
I love it so will be seeing more
Starting to become a bit click bait ish nowadays, don’t sell out.
I believe the thumbnail matches content. But we all sell out to pay the bills, that's life
Used to love ur Chanel but I think it’s starting to look like a field car sales and I always stay away from that and I don’t touch cat n.
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Members of the public do need to tell you about the car if you ask a specific question. If you ask if it has been in an accident and they know it has, they must be truthful. Get it in writing to be sure, as it is part of the contract of sale. Also, I see this channel has become an advert. So I will be unsubscribing.
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Timing chains can sometimes be worse than a timing belt.
Some makes chew up their tensioners (or even chains) at mileages less that a belt change and are more expensive to change.
Depends, regular oil changes are the key to chain driven engines.
Not with Toyota! Just don't use cheap oil & change before 6,000m,even the guides last!