I have a tip. Sometimes it's not the frequencys per se, but it's the way it's arranged/composed. If there are more than one guitar on the same part of the fretboard playing the same scales or chords, they will clash and as a result the mix will get muddy. Try to play one octave higher on one guitar or something and CHANGE THE TONE at least slightly
Really good teaching, simple comments that lead to larger results. The way you repeat things again and again to make them clear tends to really stick with me much more so than other tutorials. Many thanks
That's one thing that always annoys me with some of these videos. I'm using 100$ headphones that are made for music production and I can't ear the difference at all.
Man how time flies I remember watching this in 2016...it's been great watching your progress from then to now doing the webinars, congratulations brother. Love, Life, And Success to you. Thanks for your time over the years. I Listen to certain videos of yours before every album of my own when it time to dig in. - D~Wats
These points can't be overstated. Cutting lower mids is something I keep coming back to. This is the best video out there about this crucial mixing step.
I have a good sound card and headphones watching this in 1080p, but I can't hear any difference when he moves the knobs. Why? Am I going deaf? Do I not have enough experience? Do I need better equipment?
Some of these changes can be really subtle. Try watching again and practicing hearing the differences in this video as well as your mixes! It can take some time but keep practicing and you'll get there!
Hey Rob, absolutely love your videos! Seems as though part 2 of the "one month EQ challenge" is missing? The one about "separation and clarity"...? Or does anyone knows where to find that video? Thanks!
With my acoustic guitar, eliminating a lot of mud comes prior to recording - by spending time in the mic placement and then I try to use as little EQ as possible in an attempt to control the build up of mud during the mix...
Thank you. I've been watching similar youtube videos for a long time now but none of then come close to this. Btw i cant seen to fine part 2 of the series
I'm trying to a develop an ear for this kind of thing and I was excited to find an actual demonstration. Some feedback from a learner's perspective: The demonstrations are kinda short for those of us with insensitive, untrained ears. The exaggerated demonstration played with bypass for less than three seconds (of an 11 minute video.) Backing vocals were not even active during those three seconds! So, there's no way I can judge how easy it is to "pinpoint" different parts. After rewinding to @2:25 and playing to @3:04 about 6 times, I'm starting to feel like I might be getting it. Maybe repetition could be produced in to the demonstration. Also, I think my ears are confused because the artificially muddy sections sound louder than the bypassed bits. I'm afraid I need ear training more than anything.
Many comments addressing the issue of having two guitars doing the same thing, which can make the mix muddy. However, I have noticed that doubling guitars seem to be quite a common process. I wonder when does a producer decide to double guitars then? Or if there is a specific way of doing that so the mix doesn't get muddy?
This. I feel like every example I ever see in these videos has these perfectly defined tracks with their own lanes frequency wise. But what do you do when it’s an instrument that’s literally across the frequency spectrum?
So you use 2 EQs...one before compression and one after ok. So then, is one EQ for decreasing certain frequencies and the 2nd EQ you boost certain frequencies?
The typical use for 2 EQs is the first one is for cutting nasty frequencies as well as cutting in the muddy area described by Rob in this video. You might then compress, followed by another EQ to do subtle boosts and/or cuts to 'shape' the tone. Use very small moves.
You can use 5 EQ's of you want to, but if you're talking about corrective EQ, too much may be an indication the sound source needs to be re-recorded? And be sure to check your mix in Mono and hear if two EQ's has improved the mix!
If you change flat eq of mix buss and then continue the mix, you actually colored the whole mix, should i do the master buss eq at the final stage?, Also a lot of time I start to messing with the master eq at mastering stage to make it sounds like references tracks and it makes me really doubt about the whole mixing process ☹️😔
For me personally, when I record my piano I like to boost its bass so that I can feel a strong and defined bass when moving from chord to another but the problem is that it adds some mud to the piano sound and it doesn’t sound as desired so how can I get rid of that mud without getting rid of the bass that I’ve boosted ?? Hope my question is clear to you Thanks you very much and keep adding those helpful tips 🌹🌹❤️👍👍
I heard you mentioning opened back headphones for mixing. That's what I primarily use. However, I've been second guessing myself if I should use the other kind. BTW, I use the Sennheiser HD 600 open back headphones. If one most use headphones for mixing, do you recommend open back versus the opposite? Thank you for such great videos.
I have a really hard time hearing the difference in the mix, and what "mud" sounds like. Maybe I should get my ears checked haha. Can anyone give me a few tips for what I'm supposed to be hearing?? Thanks
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I have a tip. Sometimes it's not the frequencys per se, but it's the way it's arranged/composed. If there are more than one guitar on the same part of the fretboard playing the same scales or chords, they will clash and as a result the mix will get muddy. Try to play one octave higher on one guitar or something and CHANGE THE TONE at least slightly
Great tip for recording!
I find it amazing that he loved a comment on a video that's 2 years old
Hahaha yeah, that was cool
Really good teaching, simple comments that lead to larger results. The way you repeat things again and again to make them clear tends to really stick with me much more so than other tutorials. Many thanks
Thanks for the kind words! Glad we could help :)
I love when he say "You can really hear the difference there..."
No, I can't. I guess I need better headphones.
Not just me then
I thought I was alone. Is it my ears or my headphones ?
Yeah, it sounds exactly the same
Just go for this. It explains pretty well the matter. 😂
ruclips.net/video/f0m3n9mPssA/видео.html
That's one thing that always annoys me with some of these videos. I'm using 100$ headphones that are made for music production and I can't ear the difference at all.
When you talk about other videos in series you should link them in your description!
The website is hard to find the things they offer after I sign up my email. I love the videos though
Man how time flies I remember watching this in 2016...it's been great watching your progress from then to now doing the webinars, congratulations brother. Love, Life, And Success to you. Thanks for your time over the years. I Listen to certain videos of yours before every album of my own when it time to dig in. - D~Wats
So glad we can help!
These points can't be overstated. Cutting lower mids is something I keep coming back to. This is the best video out there about this crucial mixing step.
Thanks! Glad we could help.
I have a good sound card and headphones watching this in 1080p, but I can't hear any difference when he moves the knobs. Why? Am I going deaf? Do I not have enough experience? Do I need better equipment?
Some of these changes can be really subtle. Try watching again and practicing hearing the differences in this video as well as your mixes! It can take some time but keep practicing and you'll get there!
motivated. These videos are really opening up our eyes to the proper usage of EQ
Hey Rob, absolutely love your videos! Seems as though part 2 of the "one month EQ challenge" is missing? The one about "separation and clarity"...? Or does anyone knows where to find that video? Thanks!
With my acoustic guitar, eliminating a lot of mud comes prior to recording - by spending time in the mic placement and then I try to use as little EQ as possible in an attempt to control the build up of mud during the mix...
Good tips!!
Awesome....!!!! 😎
I think your mix need to add 2-3 dbs in 300 cycles around. Well gr8 tips. Subscribed ✌
Thank you. I've been watching similar youtube videos for a long time now but none of then come close to this. Btw i cant seen to fine part 2 of the series
Thanks Hansel, happy to help! Part 2 is an article: homestudiocenter.com/separation-clarity/
I'm trying to a develop an ear for this kind of thing and I was excited to find an actual demonstration. Some feedback from a learner's perspective: The demonstrations are kinda short for those of us with insensitive, untrained ears. The exaggerated demonstration played with bypass for less than three seconds (of an 11 minute video.) Backing vocals were not even active during those three seconds! So, there's no way I can judge how easy it is to "pinpoint" different parts. After rewinding to @2:25 and playing to @3:04 about 6 times, I'm starting to feel like I might be getting it. Maybe repetition could be produced in to the demonstration. Also, I think my ears are confused because the artificially muddy sections sound louder than the bypassed bits. I'm afraid I need ear training more than anything.
where is part 2? really interested in the masking thing
These tutorials are really helpful
Glad we could help!
Many comments addressing the issue of having two guitars doing the same thing, which can make the mix muddy. However, I have noticed that doubling guitars seem to be quite a common process. I wonder when does a producer decide to double guitars then? Or if there is a specific way of doing that so the mix doesn't get muddy?
Nice. Thanks!
so what should I do with a piano since is a full range instrument?
This. I feel like every example I ever see in these videos has these perfectly defined tracks with their own lanes frequency wise. But what do you do when it’s an instrument that’s literally across the frequency spectrum?
With pianos I just lower 300hz and mabey some 100 hz and mabey do a high shelf
Muddy or not, thats a sexy track right there.
I can't find Part 2 of the EQ Challenge anywhere :( Is the video still available?
Really helpful and very well presented. Thanks. :-)
Thanks!
How do you use a multi-band compressor?
So you use 2 EQs...one before compression and one after ok. So then, is one EQ for decreasing certain frequencies and the 2nd EQ you boost certain frequencies?
The typical use for 2 EQs is the first one is for cutting nasty frequencies as well as cutting in the muddy area described by Rob in this video. You might then compress, followed by another EQ to do subtle boosts and/or cuts to 'shape' the tone. Use very small moves.
You can use 5 EQ's of you want to, but if you're talking about corrective EQ, too much may be an indication the sound source needs to be re-recorded? And be sure to check your mix in Mono and hear if two EQ's has improved the mix!
If you change flat eq of mix buss and then continue the mix, you actually colored the whole mix, should i do the master buss eq at the final stage?, Also a lot of time I start to messing with the master eq at mastering stage to make it sounds like references tracks and it makes me really doubt about the whole mixing process ☹️😔
Does sample kicks need sidechain? Last question is why does my track sounds boring even tho it has a good melody
please do a video for how to create space in the mix.....
Hi Jobin, recently published a video on that topic: ruclips.net/video/OVErCO6K3J4/видео.html
I can't seem to find video #2 (separation and clarity) of this series 😭
For me personally, when I record my piano I like to boost its bass so that I can feel a strong and defined bass when moving from chord to another but the problem is that it adds some mud to the piano sound and it doesn’t sound as desired so how can I get rid of that mud without getting rid of the bass that I’ve boosted ??
Hope my question is clear to you
Thanks you very much and keep adding those helpful tips 🌹🌹❤️👍👍
Try to take off some highs instead of boosting lows, it usually helps to make the sound warmer !!!
I heard you mentioning opened back headphones for mixing. That's what I primarily use. However, I've been second guessing myself if I should use the other kind. BTW, I use the Sennheiser HD 600 open back headphones. If one most use headphones for mixing, do you recommend open back versus the opposite?
Thank you for such great videos.
Great vids, thx
What about the percussive sounds like kick and snare, hihats ? Do you cut 200-600hz on them?
Great videos!!! What is the name of the song?, I've spent hours trying to find it
Does this apply to edm too?
whats the name of that EQ?
am i hearing a reverb on the entire mix when stop palying
I can't find part 2
Hi Carlos, part 2 is an article on my website: homestudiocenter.com/separation-clarity/
No problem Pat!
Thank you. Very insightful.
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Who’s song is that?????
I second this question!
"Worth" by Rob Mayzes - the guy mixing
I have a really hard time hearing the difference in the mix, and what "mud" sounds like. Maybe I should get my ears checked haha. Can anyone give me a few tips for what I'm supposed to be hearing?? Thanks
tone difference
Cheers, I guess, why so few likes?
@5:15 AHAHHA
Is it just me or does his mic sound muddy ? Lol 😂
Don't let the blatant overuse of the word "mud" stop you for making use of some nice ideas in this video.
you talk too much
You can move ahead or back on the video, if you like. You have the power.
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