You are really living the dream. I'm 63 yrs old now. Rode my bike to the airport & got my PPL in 1978. Most hrs tailwheel Champ. I wanted to cropdust but didn't have the $ to get there. Had to weld instead. I worked one season in Idaho for a cropduster 3 Aires Thrush 600 hp Radial birds. I loaded them at 5am 70 degrees with the Sun coming up around 6am to blue sky. The Pilots came in grabbed coffee and started the planes. Such a beautiful sound. I miss those days big time.
This guy is totally bad ass. I like it that he is aware of everything to do with his airplane and the landscape around where he is working. Totally right on about being heavy and having to be careful about stalling!!
Agreed, however when you become an experienced aviator it becomes a little more like you driving to work. You know what to expect, how the aircraft will respond etc. you’re aware of everything in and out of the bird that has the potential to effect you. Great situational awareness is a pillar requirement to be an aviator. Especially when you’re down in the weeds working.
My father had over 20,000 hours c130h and over 500 ch46 rescue chopper. I really enjoyed your flight! I'm a heavy equipment operator. A job well done is most appreciated by the operator! I'm a ex logger thanks for the heads up! I have laughed so much , thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep the coffee in the cup! Legend❤🏆👏👍✌🖖
Nice work. Thanks for letting us ride along. I enjoyed watching the planes spray growing up in E MT. They would sometimes use our grass strip to refill their fungicide, to not have to fly back to their base (SDY)
I wish people like this, who actually do something good for our culture and society, could be the REAL social media influencers, have millions of views and subscribers.
@@lqdtrance You want your special crap right, how do you think you get it. Might not be great but if you want to live in a concrete jungle then this is how.
This is actually really impressive and fascinating flying! More so that you are so casually easing the stick and just barely missing those trees 🌲 😅 all while discussing stalls mere feet from the ground … I suppose someone has to do it… I will just be sitting here watching from the relative safety on this side of the screen 😂
Those close flybys over the trees gave me the heebie-jeebies. I agree. Airline hours should not count as full hours and stalls can happen at any speed once the plane exceeds its critical AOA. This is one of the reasons why fighter pilots are first picks for airliners since they are trained to play within the AOA during BFMs. A fighter can stall at 300kt if not handled right.
Great stuff patrick,,i had wondered if u felt any negative g entering a field. Thanks for the answer..makes perfect sense. Wonder,, on ur top end turn,, no g there be the safest thing. Roll into what appears to be 45 to 60 degrees of bank and gently let ur nose drop back towards the field,,holding enough elevator pressure to keep it from over speeding. I can damn near feel that!! Keep em coming please and keep safe!!
Towards the end you answered my question. Plane is quite sluggish in roll. But seems to be quite responsive in pitch. I don’t see your stuck moving fore/aft a lot, but roll is on the stop!
Very cool. I spent some years in a Terra Gator and got to see a lot of Ag pilots. There's a small muni airport where I learned to fly a few miles away they'll fly from at spraying time. Been seeing a lot of spraying in the last couple weeks. Nuts man....still say, nuts! LOL!
All airline pilots are not that ignorant about "stall" speed versus angle of attack. I've got about 25,000 hours in tail draggers to jets... flying that crop duster would be a blast! I use to compete in aerobatics and that was a blast, too. Be safe!
I definitely Italy should have said that differently. I didn’t mean any disrespect to the airline community at all. Hell I can barely read a Vfr chart and the type of flying you guys do is mind blowing to me. I watch a lot of videos of y’all landing in IFR minimums and I can’t even understand what is going on most of the time.
Where are you spraying? Im in a deer camp in Holly Bluff, Mississippi. Which is in the Delta. We see lots you guys flying around. Some of the members know the pilots. Thank you for sharing your job. 🇺🇸⚓️
As a trucker, I've heard stories of crop-dusters having somewhat of a jockey reputation, for scaring the piss out of them. Never happened to me but that video sticks with me.
Great video. Lots of great info that I will think about next time I’m on the lawn tractor, with my shirt off. 😂jk. One day tho this will all be done with drones. Sad day.
It’s a nice profession, I can’t physically do that for 8-10hrs a day. I don’t even have a 6hr butt anymore. 4hrs flying and my butt and back are wanting a break, haha.
I have one of those yellow Air Tractors (no idea what model) making turns over my house every now and then. I get on the roof of my house to get cool pictures.
Where i live in southwest missouri i have seen alot of airtractor guys flying. Im prior military fueler and wouls love the oppeetunity to do the fueling of your plane and learn the art of mixing your chemicals. Im still in somwhat decent shape for 57 yrs of age and truly love aircraft.... any advice much appreciated.
So this video is the first thing I've ever seen about cropdusting, super cool. When you say "trim pass" are you literally just retrimming the aircraft or is that an industry term for something else?
Why do some farms choose crop spraying from a plane versus a tractor on land? What are the advantages because I assume it's way more expensive using a plane?
This wasn't Indiana was it? I was out near a place called Nebraska a couple weeks ago and seen a yellow plane out spraying the field, was the coolest thing ever as he was passing over the road too.
Is there any condition in a turn or dive or climb out when you use the stick normally but the plane doesn't respond? I mean I am sure it will but you would have to really horse it around. I can watch a spray plane all day. If I catch one in a field I will pull off the road to watch it. I love to see the climb out while turning...
what happened at 17:40 while you were talking about the wind limits of herbicide? Looks like a little cut there, did you almost hit the trees and makke a weird noise or something that you had to cut out?
I had to splice two videos together and I’m not good at editing. When you record a long video with my GoPro, it splits it up into separate 17 minute videos for some reason.
I live in a particularly windy part of the midwest, and I guarantee people do not follow any legal "wind limits" when they're spraying agricultural chemicals. In fact, learning that there is such a thing makes me kinda mad...because now I know most people don't obey them around here.
Does this aircraft have a turboprop engine? If so, one would think that the quick response of a piston engine would be more suited for this type of flying.🤷♂
Yes it has a PT6-65AG. 1300 shp turboprop. The turbine is a much simpler engine design and much, much more reliable vs a piston engine. The only time the power lag from the turbine comes into play is when you let the turbine spool down to less than 80% NG (turbine rpm) and that only happens while landing. So it’s not a big deal.
18K+ hour airline Capt checking in. I apologize for what my brethren was saying. HE IS absolutely 1000% incorrect. Many a tragedy has been caught on video showing high speed accelerated stalls ending in disaster.....the one that comes to mind was the B52 in Washington state. Also, C17 in Alaska. The thought of this guy thinking he can steep turn an airliner or any other part 25 certified aircraft beyond 60 degrees at Vsi +5 or even 10 knots and not have the same result is very very frightening. Hopefully he's retiring soon or flies freight...no offense to my FedEx friends.
Him saying that completely blew my mind. I don’t know the guy personally, so he could have been lying about everything. He got pretty upset with me when I told him he should be ashamed of himself and the conversation ended pretty quickly after that.
I’ve been around most aspects of aviation for decades now, GA, airline, some military, gliders, balloons, gyros, but other than sharing the pattern with, or seeing you from the Highway , never been around ag flying… This is easily the best video I’ve seen in a long time. Great narration, and info to see how it works! Thanks for sharing this with us!
I'm a truck driver and I see you guys doing your thing all the time. It is the most nuts thing to watch when you guys are so low buzzing the field right over a major interstate. Mad respect to you guys.
I drive also and I love watching it and all the years some pilot finally missed his marked and completely covered my truck in spray. Had to slam on brakes bc I couldn’t see. Don’t know what it was but I felt sick for about a week after. Didn’t know I could report that until it was to late to prove. He was 15-20 ft off the ground
Airline pilot knew fugh all about the physics of accelersted stall. Im retired with 21000hrs and have total respect for you. Epic commentary and educated
After speaking with several airline pilots I have come to the conclusion that the gentleman I was arguing with was probably not really an airline captain.
Great video Patrick. If someone lives in Tennessee or Kentucky and their main source of transportation is a lawnmower, you can almost guarantee they’ll be shirtless!😂
Wow i just watched a video after seeing yours on "TURN SMART - RESPECT THE SAFETY MARGIN". A video from Air Tractor. Speaking about stalls etc. Wow I learned something today. I am not an aviator, I am a Paramedic Firefighter. I fly in both helicopters and jets for med flights. I never realized in a turn what complexity exists in that turn. The area of the last video regarding "Normalization of Deviance" related to taking safety shortcuts by Colonel Mullane" was something I can take back to my firefighter colleagues relating to our profession. Happy aviating and blessings to you
I just came across your channel randomly and I am blown away, this is amazing! Thank you for being such a good commentator while you fly a pretty dynamic route. "...I do not push over the tree and pull any negative G's, that's a no-no from me. Mainly because I have an open cup of coffee in here and I don;t want to spill it." True 10k hour pilot wisdom.
From a 14000+ hour former Alaskan bush pilot I have to say I’m very impressed. Love the videos please keep posting with commentary. I find the details fascinating. Always wanted to fly ag but family keeps me close to home. Keep it dirty side down.
@yeahman.9262 Alaskan Native here, flying in the bush of AK, village to village, across vast expanses of lethal bearritory, with unpredictable weather and sub zero temperatures over half the year. Not just ANYONE can become, An Alaskan Bush Pilot. My dad had a pa-20, tail dragger, I grew up in the back of a small plane like you would take rides in the carseat. Village life in Bush Alaska... it really is, The Last Frontier
Love these videos Patrick, my dad was a crop duster and aerial fire fighter in the 70's and 80's,when he first started they where flying super cubs,so I really enjoy your videos,especially with the narration,because I love the information about the things yiur doing, hope you do more
My God, the super cub was a crop duster? When I was a kid, the cropduster‘s had radial Engines. Lots of powerlines around the farm land we lived on. Totally hazardous!!
Hello Pat, I grew up around crop dusters. My step dad had six stearmens five dusters and one two seater. WE use to go up every Sunday. I was six years old at that time. The summer after my sixth grade year I hand propped my first 450 Pratt radial. It was great but I was a little scared for the first time. Took me two pulls and it started. What a rush . I also use to mix chemicals . DDT and METHANOL PERATHINE , MILAN, ENDRINE. ALL THE GOOD STUFF. HE WAS TEACHING ME TO FLY AND MY FRESHMAN YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL I TOOK OFF AND LANDED THE STERNAN. I WAS STARTING INSTRUCTION WHEN HE PASSED IN DEC. OF 1973. I never got to get my pilots license after that. So when I see y'all fly I tear up big time . In 1970 he and a farmer got a Grumman Ag Cat with a 650 Pratt. It had 4 Macrnear spray units on the boom, 2 on each side and sprayed pure chemical. No mixing but strong stuff. Anyway didn't mean to write a book. Stay safe and never be what you call Flying by the seat of your pants, lol Remember my Dad saying that.
Your particular skill set isn't in high demand at United Airlines. Love the stall explanation as well as other calculations you're explaining at ten feet off the crop! You flying is precise and skill like that takes lots of hours to build. Thanks for sharing!
@@lanceludwig5349 Doubtful. Most airline pilots started with the airline having never sat at the controls. They have a complete pilot training pipeline. It's either that or former military pilots, but a military pilot would certainly know about accelerated stall.
@@JaredJanhsen all I know is recently I really discovered that j would love to do something like this or something related to flying. Idk just where to go after doing 40 hrs
@@JaredJanhsen you joking? I worked my way up instructing, flying 135, regional, then major. it's easier these days but you still have to "sit at the controls" many hours to make it to an airline
@@JaredJanhsenWhoa whoa whoa, you mean I've been flying pipelines in 110+ degree weather at 500' all this time for nothing??? Where is this delightful straight to the airlines pipeline you speak of! lol
good stuff. man. thanks for sharing. I lost my best friend in a 188b on 4/2/97 in Waynesboro, Georgia dusting. He had just graduated from that ag school in Bainbridge Georgia. I heard they asked him to stay on and be an IP. He declined. He wanted to get in the field. The NTSB report stated he overstressed the plane and lost the right wing. While that is possible, I highly doubt it. He and I had too many hours together for me to buy that. It's possible but we will never know for sure. RIP David. He loved what he did for a living. Stay safe & Cheers from Louisiana.
I wonder if the wing failed not because of what he was doing to it, but just all the stress on the airframe from over the years and finally it separated?
I wish I knew. I know things get broken in the plane crash. Over-stressed connections I suspect would be all over the airframe. The airplane being completely consumed in the post-crash fire makes determination more difficult I imagine. Again, it is possible but David was such a by-the-book pilot. He freaked out when I decided to do a little skud running down a local river in the 172. I looked over at him. He was not enjoying the flight at all. He was the last person I would think would break the airplane in flight. @@MasterClassComments
Stay safe. I lost a friend who got me into aviation who had 4,000 hours when he clipped a tree spraying a potato field and augered in and bought the farm. I can't imagine how a life or death situation depends on a fraction of a second decision of when to pull up. I heard Sam Walton (founder of Walmart) lost his son that way. Also glad to see you concerned about drift onto people. Around about 1984 an ag sprayer sprayed me and my gaggle of younger brother and sisters with parathion when I was babysitting them at our midwestern small acreage. The pilot was a known alcoholic and not only was spraying my siblings and I who were running for our lives, but also was spraying the completely wrong field as it turned out. I only found this out because I called every farmer that was adjacent to our property to yell at them and none of them had even hired a sprayer, so they claimed. No action was taken against the pilot because it was based on the word of a minor. The entire acreage was in the dense fog cloud of the spray, and I yelled at my siblings to get inside and nearly had a panic attack because the youngest thought it was funny as hell and kept running around in it just being an ornery little sister, while in the meantime the idiot pilot kept making more passes. She was the only one who had to go to the doctor. Now I know what it's like to be a bug in a bug bombed room.
One of the many unsung heroes of the agricultural community. As someone who really likes to have food available, thank you for the time and effort you put into this profession. What a cool and fascinating job. Stay safe and have fun. God bless.
@@michaelwalters7110I took that as he was saying that this isn't Reddit bullshit, this is the real thing. On reddit you can say you dropped nukes on Chicago, you can say you're an alien from alpha centauri, same difference. 10 ft off the ground with 40 ft trees at the end... Jesus Christ, this guy's a good pilot.
Object fixation is definitely real!! Your talking about not looking at the trees but looking at where you are going. I’m a paraglider pilot and this is something I see all the time in paragliding, at one of our local sites the LZ is absolutely huge! But there is one lone tree right in the middle, and even with a stall speed of maybe 14-16 mph, and having 3 football fields of area to land, people still get in that one single tree, because they stare at it because they don’t want to hit it, but because they look at it that’s exactly where they go lol.
Same thing happened to a guy I know. He was getting his PG licence. The landing field was HUUUGE, but it had one tractor there.. he landed right on it. lol.
G'day Patrick, great videos. Mate I totally agree with you not crashing ;-) I was a cop in a rural area and I've been on scene guard and had to search and check in a local ag pilot who crashed and burned, it's not high on my list of favourite memories.
Hey cool channel, glad this vid popped up for me. Here's some info I found to help other curious viewers. If you've watched Steveo1kinevo channel, he flies a Socata TBM850 which uses the same engine as this AT 802a. The Pratt and Whitney PT6 turboprop which is one of, if not THE highest-hours-driven vehicle engine model on the planet. I say vehicle and not aircraft because the PT6 is used in many different things from planes and hovercrafts to helicopters and tanks. The PT6 model covers the power range from 600 to 1950 shaft horsepower depending on the model variation, which depends on the application. I remember Steveo saying in one of his vids that the PT6 turboprop is so torque-heavy that it has a very noticeable pull (I think towards starboard) during takeoff on the runway. At first I thought this pilot was like crop dusting in a little 4cyl Cessna like you see in movies. No. This Air Tractor aircraft and its few variants are used for firefighting, military, and government agriculture use in like 60+ countries. The utility value of these aircraft is priceless. The gross weight mentioned in this video, around 16,000 pounds, is very heavy, about as heavy as an F250 truck pulling another F250 on a trailer. The shaft torque is what you'd get from 3 diesel engines on the new F250 from the 6.7 liter power strokes, at half the engine weight of ONE diesel engine. It's about 10 times the power of a typical Cessna 172 plane. So it's quite an engineering marvel, that whole airplane really. And I'm sure very expensive. 😂
Does manouvres "normal" pilots avoid at all cost, is worried about his coffee. XD Thanks for an awsome insight into your job, very good explanation and nope, i'm a groundhog, emptying garbage bins... i'll dabble into some flightsimulation (without autopilot! ;) ) , but what yer doing is awsome and terribly frightening, yet fascinating to me. So again, thanks for the great insights and have a great and safe venture, capt'n Cohen!
You are really living the dream. I'm 63 yrs old now. Rode my bike to the airport & got my PPL in 1978. Most hrs tailwheel Champ. I wanted to cropdust but didn't have the $ to get there. Had to weld instead. I worked one season in Idaho for a cropduster 3 Aires Thrush 600 hp Radial birds. I loaded them at 5am 70 degrees with the Sun coming up around 6am to blue sky. The Pilots came in grabbed coffee and started the planes. Such a beautiful sound. I miss those days big time.
Wow dude you are an amazing multitasker and a great pilot to be able to explain what your doing while flying 10ft over ground. Impressive
Bingo that !
Right!? This is extremely impressive!
If im going over 40mph in my car I need to keep my mouth shut 🚗💥💥👀💨
This guy is totally bad ass. I like it that he is aware of everything to do with his airplane and the landscape around where he is working. Totally right on about being heavy and having to be careful about stalling!!
Agreed, however when you become an experienced aviator it becomes a little more like you driving to work. You know what to expect, how the aircraft will respond etc. you’re aware of everything in and out of the bird that has the potential to effect you. Great situational awareness is a pillar requirement to be an aviator. Especially when you’re down in the weeds working.
I love watching you guys from the ground! Thanks for posting your perspective.
My father had over 20,000 hours c130h and over 500 ch46 rescue chopper. I really enjoyed your flight! I'm a heavy equipment operator. A job well done is most appreciated by the operator! I'm a ex logger thanks for the heads up! I have laughed so much , thank you from the bottom of my heart. Keep the coffee in the cup! Legend❤🏆👏👍✌🖖
Nice work. Thanks for letting us ride along. I enjoyed watching the planes spray growing up in E MT. They would sometimes use our grass strip to refill their fungicide, to not have to fly back to their base (SDY)
I wish people like this, who actually do something good for our culture and society, could be the REAL social media influencers, have millions of views and subscribers.
Spraying pesticides is good for culture and society??
@@lqdtrance Obviously did not listen. Its a fungicide which on beans is quite often a mineral of some type.
@@lqdtrance🤦♂️
@@lqdtrance You want your special crap right, how do you think you get it. Might not be great but if you want to live in a concrete jungle then this is how.
People like this, American farmers, blue collar working people, DON'T CARE ABOUT LIKES! 😂
im 67 been around crop dusters most my life this guy one of the best ive ever seen
My son is in his first year at mga ga wants to be a pilot. Showed him this and it looks a lot more exciting!
Fascinating flying rarely seen by the public...Thanks for the insight !!!
This is actually really impressive and fascinating flying! More so that you are so casually easing the stick and just barely missing those trees 🌲 😅 all while discussing stalls mere feet from the ground … I suppose someone has to do it… I will just be sitting here watching from the relative safety on this side of the screen 😂
4:10 lol flying low and up over the trees, but still has capacity to teach at the same time. 😅 Glad I found this channel finally. 👍
Thanks for this Patrick, I learn so much from you!
Great video and wonderful flying!
Enjoy your videos buddy showing what we do for a living ! I wish you luck this season and fly safe and be careful
Could you give us a tour of the plane, inside and out? Maybe preflight and loading ops too?
Those close flybys over the trees gave me the heebie-jeebies.
I agree. Airline hours should not count as full hours and stalls can happen at any speed once the plane exceeds its critical AOA. This is one of the reasons why fighter pilots are first picks for airliners since they are trained to play within the AOA during BFMs. A fighter can stall at 300kt if not handled right.
Outstanding video!! You feel like you’re in the cockpit.
Absolutely love your videos, Thank you for letting me tag along with you!!
Such a cool job. A true aviator! You earned a sub sir!!
Best explanation/video on "Air Farming" I've experienced ..
Great stuff patrick,,i had wondered if u felt any negative g entering a field. Thanks for the answer..makes perfect sense.
Wonder,, on ur top end turn,, no g there be the safest thing.
Roll into what appears to be 45 to 60 degrees of bank and gently let ur nose drop back towards the field,,holding enough elevator pressure to keep it from over speeding.
I can damn near feel that!!
Keep em coming please and keep safe!!
that comment about the bean plant leaves showing the wake of your plane got an insta subscription from me, boss
Towards the end you answered my question. Plane is quite sluggish in roll. But seems to be quite responsive in pitch. I don’t see your stuck moving fore/aft a lot, but roll is on the stop!
Very interesting! We've had some of our fields sprayed by an air tractor in the past.
Awesome.. It's so cool watching our food getting sprayed with poison👍
Very cool. I spent some years in a Terra Gator and got to see a lot of Ag pilots. There's a small muni airport where I learned to fly a few miles away they'll fly from at spraying time. Been seeing a lot of spraying in the last couple weeks.
Nuts man....still say, nuts! LOL!
In an emergency situation this is the guy I want flying my plane. Subscribed!
This is the same reasoning I use when explaining to my wife why I always drive the car 😎
All airline pilots are not that ignorant about "stall" speed versus angle of attack. I've got about 25,000 hours in tail draggers to jets... flying that crop duster would be a blast! I use to compete in aerobatics and that was a blast, too. Be safe!
I definitely Italy should have said that differently. I didn’t mean any disrespect to the airline community at all. Hell I can barely read a Vfr chart and the type of flying you guys do is mind blowing to me. I watch a lot of videos of y’all landing in IFR minimums and I can’t even understand what is going on most of the time.
Where are you spraying? Im in a deer camp in Holly Bluff, Mississippi. Which is in the Delta. We see lots you guys flying around. Some of the members know the pilots. Thank you for sharing your job. 🇺🇸⚓️
Flying like a Boss , living life with a dream job . I would love to do this
As a trucker, I've heard stories of crop-dusters having somewhat of a jockey reputation, for scaring the piss out of them. Never happened to me but that video sticks with me.
Fantastic video!
Interesting opinion of jet pilots, but this was fun to watch. Stay safe out there!
I love aggies! Great flying man!
On that first run I was squeezing my butt cheeks as you climbed over the tree line 😅
Thank you for the video.
Watched from beginning to end and enjoyed very much! That 802 rolls like a big pussycat!
Super! Danke!
Blancolirio has taught us exactly what you just said about stalls and angle of attack at least a dozen times and he is a 777 pilot
I agree with you on stalls. Very strange that high time airline captain not knowing that. Hope I haven't been on his flights.
this guy flying like he playing battlefield. 🔥
Great video. Lots of great info that I will think about next time I’m on the lawn tractor, with my shirt off. 😂jk.
One day tho this will all be done with drones. Sad day.
Went to an air school in the south and we had a joke about these guys, that if they got too far from the ground they would get nosebleeds 🤣
18,000 hours of flight time. 16,000 of it on autopilot. Welcome to professional, IFR flying.
It’s a nice profession, I can’t physically do that for 8-10hrs a day. I don’t even have a 6hr butt anymore. 4hrs flying and my butt and back are wanting a break, haha.
I can't believe how slow the ailerons het the craft to rolling!
I have one of those yellow Air Tractors (no idea what model) making turns over my house every now and then. I get on the roof of my house to get cool pictures.
Amazing skills!
Where i live in southwest missouri i have seen alot of airtractor guys flying. Im prior military fueler and wouls love the oppeetunity to do the fueling of your plane and learn the art of mixing your chemicals. Im still in somwhat decent shape for 57 yrs of age and truly love aircraft.... any advice much appreciated.
I dig the rocker for flaps on the stick.
So this video is the first thing I've ever seen about cropdusting, super cool. When you say "trim pass" are you literally just retrimming the aircraft or is that an industry term for something else?
It’s an industry term for cleaning up the edges of the field. Usually the upwind edges of the edges where we turn the spray on and off.
Man that looks fun!
Very cool. Very good. Stay safe
We would practice power on stalls and power off stalls. Always stalls when you lose lift. I absolutely hated doing it😝
Makes me miss flying Apaches : )
Apaches look like an awesome machine. I have about 30hrs in an R22, Apache is next on the list, haha
That was impressive.
Just fyi I like that about spraying beans too!! 😊
Why do some farms choose crop spraying from a plane versus a tractor on land? What are the advantages because I assume it's way more expensive using a plane?
I thought it was all liquid. I learned something new.
That 18,000 hr pilot doesn’t fly like you fly.
This wasn't Indiana was it? I was out near a place called Nebraska a couple weeks ago and seen a yellow plane out spraying the field, was the coolest thing ever as he was passing over the road too.
Is there any condition in a turn or dive or climb out when you use the stick normally but the plane doesn't respond? I mean I am sure it will but you would have to really horse it around. I can watch a spray plane all day. If I catch one in a field I will pull off the road to watch it. I love to see the climb out while turning...
Fuck that thing's got some sharp avionics!
My dream job!!
what happened at 17:40 while you were talking about the wind limits of herbicide?
Looks like a little cut there, did you almost hit the trees and makke a weird noise or something that you had to cut out?
I had to splice two videos together and I’m not good at editing. When you record a long video with my GoPro, it splits it up into separate 17 minute videos for some reason.
Im surprised this aircraft is able to fly with the massive Gonads you have
Im 62 and quit farming.
Two of best friends spraying for me are dead now.
One from cancer the other from power lines..
Be careful
I live in a particularly windy part of the midwest, and I guarantee people do not follow any legal "wind limits" when they're spraying agricultural chemicals. In fact, learning that there is such a thing makes me kinda mad...because now I know most people don't obey them around here.
So does the laser alt read the top of the crop or the ground level. I assume the top of the crop?
That must be best job ever.
dream job
An airline pilot making that argument is concerning lol
Does this aircraft have a turboprop engine? If so, one would think that the quick response of a piston engine would be more suited for this type of flying.🤷♂
Yes it has a PT6-65AG. 1300 shp turboprop. The turbine is a much simpler engine design and much, much more reliable vs a piston engine. The only time the power lag from the turbine comes into play is when you let the turbine spool down to less than 80% NG (turbine rpm) and that only happens while landing. So it’s not a big deal.
I care about the leafs turning over!
18K+ hour airline Capt checking in. I apologize for what my brethren was saying. HE IS absolutely 1000% incorrect. Many a tragedy has been caught on video showing high speed accelerated stalls ending in disaster.....the one that comes to mind was the B52 in Washington state. Also, C17 in Alaska. The thought of this guy thinking he can steep turn an airliner or any other part 25 certified aircraft beyond 60 degrees at Vsi +5 or even 10 knots and not have the same result is very very frightening. Hopefully he's retiring soon or flies freight...no offense to my FedEx friends.
Him saying that completely blew my mind. I don’t know the guy personally, so he could have been lying about everything. He got pretty upset with me when I told him he should be ashamed of himself and the conversation ended pretty quickly after that.
@@pcohen85 ...then let's just hope he was lying and not a pilot at all. Thanks for sharing. Really enjoyed this vid!
Where is this guy flying at I’ve seen multiple in Ohio north west ohio
Are the chemicals safe?
I’ve been around most aspects of aviation for decades now, GA, airline, some military, gliders, balloons, gyros, but other than sharing the pattern with, or seeing you from the Highway , never been around ag flying…
This is easily the best video I’ve seen in a long time. Great narration, and info to see how it works! Thanks for sharing this with us!
i hung around the duster strip when they had 188s and a round engine, cool stuff
I'm a truck driver and I see you guys doing your thing all the time. It is the most nuts thing to watch when you guys are so low buzzing the field right over a major interstate. Mad respect to you guys.
I drive also and I love watching it and all the years some pilot finally missed his marked and completely covered my truck in spray. Had to slam on brakes bc I couldn’t see. Don’t know what it was but I felt sick for about a week after. Didn’t know I could report that until it was to late to prove. He was 15-20 ft off the ground
Airline pilot knew fugh all about the physics of accelersted stall. Im retired with 21000hrs and have total respect for you. Epic commentary and educated
After speaking with several airline pilots I have come to the conclusion that the gentleman I was arguing with was probably not really an airline captain.
Great video Patrick. If someone lives in Tennessee or Kentucky and their main source of transportation is a lawnmower, you can almost guarantee they’ll be shirtless!😂
Wow i just watched a video after seeing yours on
"TURN SMART - RESPECT THE SAFETY MARGIN". A video from Air Tractor. Speaking about stalls etc. Wow I learned something today. I am not an aviator, I am a Paramedic Firefighter. I fly in both helicopters and jets for med flights. I never realized in a turn what complexity exists in that turn. The area of the last video regarding "Normalization of Deviance" related to taking safety shortcuts by Colonel Mullane" was something I can take back to my firefighter colleagues relating to our profession.
Happy aviating and blessings to you
I just came across your channel randomly and I am blown away, this is amazing! Thank you for being such a good commentator while you fly a pretty dynamic route.
"...I do not push over the tree and pull any negative G's, that's a no-no from me. Mainly because I have an open cup of coffee in here and I don;t want to spill it." True 10k hour pilot wisdom.
From a 14000+ hour former Alaskan bush pilot I have to say I’m very impressed. Love the videos please keep posting with commentary. I find the details fascinating. Always wanted to fly ag but family keeps me close to home. Keep it dirty side down.
How many hours on autopilot 😃
@@Twobarpsi Just over 7000 hour with George flying. I’m still an active CFI and owner of an Aeronca Sedan so I haven’t forgotten how to fly.
Can anyone become a bush pilot?
@yeahman.9262 Alaskan Native here, flying in the bush of AK, village to village, across vast expanses of lethal bearritory, with unpredictable weather and sub zero temperatures over half the year. Not just ANYONE can become, An Alaskan Bush Pilot. My dad had a pa-20, tail dragger, I grew up in the back of a small plane like you would take rides in the carseat. Village life in Bush Alaska... it really is, The Last Frontier
Love these videos Patrick, my dad was a crop duster and aerial fire fighter in the 70's and 80's,when he first started they where flying super cubs,so I really enjoy your videos,especially with the narration,because I love the information about the things yiur doing, hope you do more
My God, the super cub was a crop duster?
When I was a kid, the cropduster‘s had radial Engines. Lots of powerlines around the farm land we lived on. Totally hazardous!!
Hello Pat, I grew up around crop dusters. My step dad had six stearmens five dusters and one two seater. WE use to go up every Sunday. I was six years old at that time. The summer after my sixth grade year I hand propped my first 450 Pratt radial. It was great but I was a little scared for the first time. Took me two pulls and it started. What a rush . I also use to mix chemicals . DDT and METHANOL PERATHINE , MILAN, ENDRINE. ALL THE GOOD STUFF. HE WAS TEACHING ME TO FLY AND MY FRESHMAN YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL I TOOK OFF AND LANDED THE STERNAN. I WAS STARTING INSTRUCTION WHEN HE PASSED IN DEC. OF 1973. I never got to get my pilots license after that. So when I see y'all fly I tear up big time . In 1970 he and a farmer got a Grumman Ag Cat with a 650 Pratt. It had 4 Macrnear spray units on the boom, 2 on each side and sprayed pure chemical. No mixing but strong stuff. Anyway didn't mean to write a book. Stay safe and never be what you call Flying by the seat of your pants, lol Remember my Dad saying that.
My wife often sprays me with commentary. Okay, I'll see myself out thank you.
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“Too early in the summer to be sick of beans”. -Brokeback Mountain - Mexican Delivery Man
It says a lot about you that you qouted that movie. Nothing good though.
Your particular skill set isn't in high demand at United Airlines. Love the stall explanation as well as other calculations you're explaining at ten feet off the crop!
You flying is precise and skill like that takes lots of hours to build.
Thanks for sharing!
Probably got most of his hours doing that before getting a job like this? 🤷🏻♂️
@@lanceludwig5349 Doubtful. Most airline pilots started with the airline having never sat at the controls. They have a complete pilot training pipeline. It's either that or former military pilots, but a military pilot would certainly know about accelerated stall.
@@JaredJanhsen all I know is recently I really discovered that j would love to do something like this or something related to flying. Idk just where to go after doing 40 hrs
@@JaredJanhsen you joking? I worked my way up instructing, flying 135, regional, then major. it's easier these days but you still have to "sit at the controls" many hours to make it to an airline
@@JaredJanhsenWhoa whoa whoa, you mean I've been flying pipelines in 110+ degree weather at 500' all this time for nothing??? Where is this delightful straight to the airlines pipeline you speak of! lol
Casually flying and just describing what you’re doing, cool as a cucumber 🤣🤣
good stuff. man. thanks for sharing. I lost my best friend in a 188b on 4/2/97 in Waynesboro, Georgia dusting. He had just graduated from that ag school in Bainbridge Georgia. I heard they asked him to stay on and be an IP. He declined. He wanted to get in the field. The NTSB report stated he overstressed the plane and lost the right wing. While that is possible, I highly doubt it. He and I had too many hours together for me to buy that. It's possible but we will never know for sure. RIP David. He loved what he did for a living.
Stay safe & Cheers from Louisiana.
I wonder if the wing failed not because of what he was doing to it, but just all the stress on the airframe from over the years and finally it separated?
I wish I knew. I know things get broken in the plane crash. Over-stressed connections I suspect would be all over the airframe. The airplane being completely consumed in the post-crash fire makes determination more difficult I imagine. Again, it is possible but David was such a by-the-book pilot. He freaked out when I decided to do a little skud running down a local river in the 172. I looked over at him. He was not enjoying the flight at all. He was the last person I would think would break the airplane in flight. @@MasterClassComments
probably not, unless they weren't staying up to date on inspections and maintenance. @@MasterClassComments
Stay safe. I lost a friend who got me into aviation who had 4,000 hours when he clipped a tree spraying a potato field and augered in and bought the farm. I can't imagine how a life or death situation depends on a fraction of a second decision of when to pull up. I heard Sam Walton (founder of Walmart) lost his son that way. Also glad to see you concerned about drift onto people. Around about 1984 an ag sprayer sprayed me and my gaggle of younger brother and sisters with parathion when I was babysitting them at our midwestern small acreage. The pilot was a known alcoholic and not only was spraying my siblings and I who were running for our lives, but also was spraying the completely wrong field as it turned out. I only found this out because I called every farmer that was adjacent to our property to yell at them and none of them had even hired a sprayer, so they claimed. No action was taken against the pilot because it was based on the word of a minor. The entire acreage was in the dense fog cloud of the spray, and I yelled at my siblings to get inside and nearly had a panic attack because the youngest thought it was funny as hell and kept running around in it just being an ornery little sister, while in the meantime the idiot pilot kept making more passes. She was the only one who had to go to the doctor. Now I know what it's like to be a bug in a bug bombed room.
That same pilot later starred in the movie "independence Day" and saved the planet. :)
Isn't that the scene from Independence Day? Lolol
Been spraying 10 years and this is spot on! Keep flying and keep educating!
One of the many unsung heroes of the agricultural community. As someone who really likes to have food available, thank you for the time and effort you put into this profession. What a cool and fascinating job. Stay safe and have fun. God bless.
bro this isnt reddit
@@PerforatedPaperboy and?
you bum @@PerforatedPaperboy
@@michaelwalters7110I took that as he was saying that this isn't Reddit bullshit, this is the real thing. On reddit you can say you dropped nukes on Chicago, you can say you're an alien from alpha centauri, same difference. 10 ft off the ground with 40 ft trees at the end... Jesus Christ, this guy's a good pilot.
@@2ndfloorsongs I have honestly never even been on Reddit. Not even sure what it is. I am old school.
How often do these guys have bird strikes?
Object fixation is definitely real!! Your talking about not looking at the trees but looking at where you are going. I’m a paraglider pilot and this is something I see all the time in paragliding, at one of our local sites the LZ is absolutely huge! But there is one lone tree right in the middle, and even with a stall speed of maybe 14-16 mph, and having 3 football fields of area to land, people still get in that one single tree, because they stare at it because they don’t want to hit it, but because they look at it that’s exactly where they go lol.
Same thing happened to a guy I know. He was getting his PG licence. The landing field was HUUUGE, but it had one tractor there.. he landed right on it. lol.
G'day Patrick, great videos. Mate I totally agree with you not crashing ;-) I was a cop in a rural area and I've been on scene guard and had to search and check in a local ag pilot who crashed and burned, it's not high on my list of favourite memories.
Hey cool channel, glad this vid popped up for me. Here's some info I found to help other curious viewers. If you've watched Steveo1kinevo channel, he flies a Socata TBM850 which uses the same engine as this AT 802a. The Pratt and Whitney PT6 turboprop which is one of, if not THE highest-hours-driven vehicle engine model on the planet. I say vehicle and not aircraft because the PT6 is used in many different things from planes and hovercrafts to helicopters and tanks. The PT6 model covers the power range from 600 to 1950 shaft horsepower depending on the model variation, which depends on the application. I remember Steveo saying in one of his vids that the PT6 turboprop is so torque-heavy that it has a very noticeable pull (I think towards starboard) during takeoff on the runway. At first I thought this pilot was like crop dusting in a little 4cyl Cessna like you see in movies. No. This Air Tractor aircraft and its few variants are used for firefighting, military, and government agriculture use in like 60+ countries. The utility value of these aircraft is priceless. The gross weight mentioned in this video, around 16,000 pounds, is very heavy, about as heavy as an F250 truck pulling another F250 on a trailer. The shaft torque is what you'd get from 3 diesel engines on the new F250 from the 6.7 liter power strokes, at half the engine weight of ONE diesel engine. It's about 10 times the power of a typical Cessna 172 plane. So it's quite an engineering marvel, that whole airplane really. And I'm sure very expensive. 😂
Thanks so much for sharing this. I fly a Cessna; I would love to fly Ag, but my wife would kill me faster than the trees.
Outstanding video!! Great commentary, and you clearly understand what you're doing. Awesome! Stay safe!
Does manouvres "normal" pilots avoid at all cost, is worried about his coffee. XD
Thanks for an awsome insight into your job, very good explanation and nope, i'm a groundhog, emptying garbage bins... i'll dabble into some flightsimulation (without autopilot! ;) ) , but what yer doing is awsome and terribly frightening, yet fascinating to me. So again, thanks for the great insights and have a great and safe venture, capt'n Cohen!