Does Dale Jr. Agree with Fans Calling for More Mile-and-a-Half Tracks after Kansas’s Photo Finish?
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- Опубликовано: 3 июн 2024
- Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the Bojangles Studio to break down the closest finish in NASCAR Cup history. While the finish at Kansas between Kyle Larson and Chris Buescher had viewers on the edge of their seats, it sparked a debate on how photo finishes are governed and more:
Which start/finish line is the real one?
Transponders vs. the line vs. the camera
Mile-and-a-half tracks have been great; do we need more on the schedule?
Short tracks continue to be on the chopping block moving forward
Dale's broadcasting plans for 2025
Kansas second-place finisher Chris Buescher calls in
During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions regarding:
Dale seeing Kasey Kahne at dinner
Dale’s silver Goodyear car from winning the NASCAR Busch Series Championship
Multiple tire compounds for North Wilkesboro
The secret to finding the best bathroom before a race
NASCAR implementing a push-to-pass system like IndyCar
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction
29:18 - Desire for More Mile and a Half Tracks in NASCAR
35:12 - Concerns Over the Potential Loss of Short Tracks
41:47 -The Future of NASCAR Races at Different Tracks
44:27 - Chris Buescher Joins
58:49 - Ask Jr.
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Here is a note for Amazon. Us fans watch about 4 hours of racing and the excitement builds with the last 10 minutes being the best. The race ends and 5 minutes later, something else is on t.v. I would love to see more victory lane, more interviews with drivers, owners, ect. Also more of a breakdown from you guys. Would rather get rid of pre race shows.
Never watch a moment of any pre-race show. DVR every race. Would like more post-race interviews and less useless dorks that never raced talking.
Yes! I miss the old days before the grid walk nonsense and shenanigans. Post-race would interview the driver with their crew and families in victory lane, confetti and beer everywhere. THAT was awesome. Now...race ends and poof, on to the dog show or whatever's next.
💥💥💯AGREE💥💥
I miss interviewing the driver in victory lane so much. It made the race win feel more important and bigger.
If you arent a fan of Chris Buescher.. Something is wrong with you. What a stand up guy. Humble, passionate, respectful. Couldn't ask for a better dude in that 17 car
I think Chicagoland would be badass with this car
"I'd like you to say that to his face." lol
what a time we are in. just 2-3 years ago people were bitching about how boring mile and a half's were. now short tracks suck but that has more to do with the car than the tracks.
The reverse of that argument is true as well right? When the 1.5 mile tracks were boring it was the car right?
Some people don’t know what they want.
@@michealmjh Yep, there are reasons teams built 4 different cars a year during the heydays. Superspeedway, Intermediate, Short Track, Road Course.
Chicagoland Speedway actually is in good condition. As recently as last September they held a SuperMotocross race for their Playoffs with an estimated 20,000 or so in attendance. I would think after the Chicago street race contract ends NASCAR would not want to leave the overall Chicago market again, and with how mile and a half tracks race now the racing should deliver pretty well.
If only us out west can say the same with Auto Club...
Chicagoland is the closest track to me. Close to home and the only race i went to since 2014. It being off schedule opened me up to venture off to other tracks like michigan, road america, talladega, bristol. But I really miss going to Chicagoland. I hope nascar comes back there soon
Unfortunately it was Chase race for SuperMotocross, but it was still amazing to see Chicagoland have a race again. It still looks like they’ve been taking care of it and it’s race weekend ready.
Clay Millican made a Vlog there last year while he was at Chicago for the Route 66 Nationals
I would welcome more ovals and way fewer road courses. I would also like all short tracks grouped into a Wednesday night summer race series. 8 weeks, Bristol, Martinsville, Richmond, Dover. A new short track car and short track champion. End the season in September.
the Clash at Daytona oval was the unofficial start of the season and it was a free test for the drivers and their 500 race. It made the Daytona 500 a lot better race having it.
The Daytona speed weeks were awesome for so many years, that included the Clash. Moving it was done because people weren’t tuning in on TV. So instead of just marketing it better they moved it altogether. Another NASCAR fail.
Loved it too!
That Kansas race was absolutely fantastic
It's really cool that Alex Bowman and Tyler Reddick are around to produce this show each week.
Okay, what did I miss????
Chicago street cost over 30 million and they dont get 1 cent of it back. Imagine putting 30 million into Chicagoland and not just throwing it away for temp stuff.
30m wouldn't even begin to fix Chicago.
Bet you won't say that to his face!!! Jr be giving that kid hell!!! 😂😂😂
Just a little rap on the knuckles...
Thanks for discussing Chicagoland! 😊😢
Am I just imagining that Jr got genuinely pissed at Andrew for the Buescher comment at the beginning? I felt Andrew knew right away that he might have overstepped.
I think he was busting his balls, he wasn’t genuinely angry.
Junior getting cranky in his old age
No, you’re not imagining, friend. Jr wasn’t pissed but rather annoyed by that comment. Look, we saw some badass racing throughout the entire race and it ended with a spectacular finish. A finish for the ages and it’s now cemented as NASCAR’s closest finish ever. I don’t know Buescher’s story and I’m not sure what kind of person he is off the track, but he’s doing something that we all wish we were doing and that’s to drive a race car. It takes balls, sacrifices, sweat and tears to accomplish that. So, that begs the question: If he’s not a ‘winner’ then who the hell are we?
@@heartbreakkid8708 Say what you will, but he still wasn't the winner. That's not disrespect, it's a fact.
He was definitely pissed, his pause to close the topic said it all.
I don't know about anyone else, but Dale Jr. Is a breath of fresh air that I can go to, to rescue me from all the bullshit going on in the world today.
I like the Watchman River channel as well.
@@bighand1530I feel the DJD would benefit from accessing 'clips' from other sources as done by BB, and now Kevin!
@@roberthevern6169 Nice
I was at the race and was listening to Larsons radio, the spotter was awesome when he found out they won
Someone asked for timestamps last video and now there’s timestamps. Great job guys you always are about the fans
I'm being selfish Jr , but I would love to see you for more than 10 races . You are so good in the booth, just keep on being yourself ❤
Need to go back to Rockingham!
45 minutes of pre race is plenty. More victory lane and top 5 finishers. Looking onward to the next race
As a Kansan, I am loving this car! But I will say, there needs to be different packages for different tracks and I don’t mean just aero, short tracks need HP. Bottom line
I am a fan of 3 different Tire Compounds similar to F1. They have hard, medium and soft compounds. There is an allotment for each compound, and a minimum use for each compound.
It is structured in such a way that the teams wind up using from each compound. Some teams set up a car to run good with a particular compound, while giving up some speed with others.
There actually gets to be some great strategies involved in the races. It seems crazy to tune a car to run best on hard tires, but their cars perform best with different compounds than other teams.
I really think that it's an aspect and tool that could bring fresh elements to the races.
Having 3 tire compounds every race like F1 is probably too much for goodyear to handle to be honest. Having a limited allocation optional soft tire would really add an interesting element of strategy into the race though.
@@walletracer9882 Goodyear is on par with Michelin. They both support the majority of motor sports worldwide.
No doubt that it would tax their system for a while at the beginning. That would be one reason for a delayed implementation. 2 compounds next year, 3 the next. A ramp up period.
F1 has monitors in the wheels so they have real time data as to which team has used which tire. The crazy thing is if a team is lagging behind the body doesn't tell them. They figure if a team is of such caliber to be F1 they should be able to handle the tire situation.
@@bobbolieu9013 Good, valid points!
Always good to hear well thought our comments! Thanks
If you want more 1.5 miles, get rid of the roval in exchange for another Charlotte date, get rid of a second Phoenix race which puts on terrible racing with this car and bring back Chicagoland, also just drop the street course and go back to Road America, it's better than the roval and the indy road course. Also, now that the Brickyard is back I imagine it's relatively flat 4 corners may create some opportunities to pass.
Yes Road America! Not Road Espanola!
@@jimgillett1184Road America is a great venue, with great fan support, but Nascar is trying to 'expand' the fan base beyond the lower 48!
The funky start/finish line is just aesthetic. Nascar has their own virtual timing line they use to call the finishes. It's on the broadcast for implying that's the photo nascar used to call it.
Who is this reply for? The people watching this video where they literally say that?
G-day everyone @ Dirty mo media as I live in Australia it would be nice to see nascar bring the show down under for two weekends of racing the first @ the 1 1/4 mike thunder dome and the next weekend @ Bathurst for a 500 mile race in 2026.
Dale all the dang commercials are killing the viewing. There needs to be more race coverage and less commercials. An example Fox did a side by side the 5 mins later commercials NASCAR races are unwatchable on network television. Nexgen car on 2.5 mile tracks is horrible I like the racing back in the day much better. Btw love the RUclips broadcast it's awesome!! Keep up the great work!!
The commercials suck
We must take the bitter with the sweet...
Great show! Loved the Kansas race! Precision ultra-high frame-rate cameras & lasers are the way to determine the winner in these close races, not transponders or white lines & the ol' eyeball.
“Fuckin eyes fly outta ya head”😂😂😂😂
I agree the Clash in CA, run its course! If you saw it once. That’s enough! On the other hand the attendance at the Clash was low because they moved the race to Saturday from Sunday!
I wouldn't call 4 road course races out of 36 "a lot." I wasn't a fan of extra road courses originally, but they kinda grew on me and I liked the variety and the fact that it shows the versatility of the drivers more than other series. I think 6 is right on the money for road courses. Personally, I'd like to see two or three staple road courses, then a rotation of different ones every 2-3 years so that we're not seeing the same thing every year. Same with the ovals. Put half a dozen on a rotation. One year go to Richmond, another year go to Milwaukee. One year go to Kentucky, another go to Nashville Fairgrounds... Something like that. Oh and shorten the season back down to 33-34 races. No playoffs or change it to a 12 race format with 3 tracks in each round. Personally, I'd like to see a full season format with the current points payout just add back 3 bonus points for most laps led.
I feel for Buscher and the weight on his shoulders because of FORD's winless drought. 17 team, Nascar, ford, RFK all on him to win that race
If Jr was making the schedule, Nascar would be in alot better shape.
I thought it was just me that the finish line was funky lookin
I’m sure none of them are perfectly painted straight. This is just the first time everybody is analyzing it with a microscopic lens
@@tritontransport you don’t need a microscope to see that the painter may or may not need an eye exam
Anyone have a link for the in car Kyle Busch footage Jr was talking about around the 10 minute mark? I've tried searching on RUclips but am not coming up with anything
This is going to be great I can’t wait. I really hope Amazon and TNT bring back the victory lane celebration interviews vs the front stretch interviews. I miss seeing the drivers getting out celebrating with the teams have their team owners in victory lane their spouses all that good stuff. Also when we had the Winston, sprint cup girls and the monster energy girls in victory lane was always cool to see.
Sunday was great! But NASCAR fans are never careful when it comes to wishing something they want because they’ll get it and complain.
But at least bring back Chicagoland, fix Texas, and make Atlanta unrestricted engine again
"It'll knock your damn eyes out"......made me laugh real good, thanks man.
Good on Andrew for showing maturity after Jr 'corrected' him!
For me as a Larson fan with a drag racing background, I knew what .001 meant immediately when I heard it.
Letarte and Gordon do an excellent job as always of explaining the 'kerfuffle' (sorry, Happy!).
The Derby has had high speed cams as long as I can remember (69yrs old), so kudos to whomever at Nascar for using tech to get the call correct!
Loved that last lap when KL and CB were bouncing off each other! Reminded me of the 79 race!
If nepotism baby Smith doesn't 'see' this opportunity and capitalize shame on him! He then becomes part of the problem and not part of the solution!
So where will all the podcasts be available for "viewing" next year?
Dale, you have done a fantastic job this year on the Dirty Mo Media shows. The two young protégés add a great sense of humor and enthusiasm. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's Dirty Mo...no 'e'
Hi JR. Was lucky enuf to be there, overall a great race. Fantastic finish. Only thing a missed, the commentary by the booth, adds a perspective that you just don't get being in the seats. Was telling my son that Larson and Busch were holding back at the end, waiting on Hamlin's pit strategy. Then we watched the replay of the race and that was what Boyer was thinking. My son says wow mom starting to think things out here. Btw, son used to race out local track.
Dale, Allen Bestwick, Jamie Mac. Make it happen!
Would it be possible to use different cars for different tracks? like, keep the current cars for tracks like Kansas, but use whichever previous generation of cars worked best on the short tracks only for the short tracks or something like that.
They should run the new car on mile and a half, and then run 900hp xfinity cars for the short tracks
I live a mile south of Chicagoland Speedway so I can tell you it's there and ready for racing. We were there last September for Supercross and the facility is still great. I will say there was some weeds popping up through the seams in the turns so definitely some track prep but nothing crazy. Also Joliet has a lot to do outside the track including two casinos or New Lenox is a five minute drive for good restaurants.
Yes, the have a RAX in Joliet. That's where I'm going to eat when they start racing there again. 😋😂
Hey Fellas, not sure you all will see this, but from what I found that Chicagoland track your talkin' bout is hosting the SMX playoffs now, that is a Supercross event. Also the net said the grounds were being taken over by some kind of warehousing. Imagine that, like Amazon ain't got enough places already right? Hope this helps, Shooter.
I really wanted Chris to be the winner that said it was an Awesome race total blast if your a NASCAR fan🎉
Will you please do an episode on the racing fire suit creation? Please? Creation, decision, how much time ahead of race to make, where do the sponsor patches go, so many different colors, different sponsors for each race, do all racers use same company, does nascar have to approve? You get my drift I’m sure. Just would like to follow the process from planning stage to their appearance at race start. Impressed with this skill set and they are a big part of racing. Thank you in advance.
I was pulling for Buescher because he's a great guy and secondly because Dale said he wouldn't win and Lajoie would.
Which I thought was a crazy idea, given the history of these two drivers. That being said, I NEVER would have picked Blaney as a champion and Dale nailed it!!!
Loved going to Chicagoland. They installed lights raced under the lights for all of 3 seasons, and went right back to day races. But il always remember 09 being there and watching my favorite driver Mark Martin dominate
As a long time nascar fan in los angeles, the clash the first year was perfect. Logano even won! This past year it was hard to know when the race was gonna happen and thats likely why the crowd died down. I miss fontana, been going since the first race. I would hope that they bring at least a 3/4-1mile track but the footprint is too small for that now. I guess i could go to vegas or phoenix, but i could also just save money and take a nap at home
Wait, Jr’s good with 400 miles at Wilkesboro? I thought it was 500 miles minimum or nothing? Don’t take chips out of our bags Dale! xD
It’s awesome how much we’ve developed cameras to capture more than the human eye is capable of catching itself.
Living here in Louisville KY, we had a wonderful track, Louisville Motor Speedway, where your dad even raced. They shut it down to open KY Speedway and now it's gone. Would have much rather kept our track here in Louisville.
tracks are tracks. what made NASCAR special was being able to buy a car that looked just like the one your favorite driver drove…like the pics on the wall behind jr.
Dale please bring back the late 90s TBS theme, it was so retro but it would be a wonderful theme with modern sound and graphics.
D JR you are correct about close losses. They are hard to overcome. I used to coach baseball and it was tough to lose games by 1 RUN. No big deal to move on if we lost a game by 5 Runs. Buescher will think about the Kansas loss for a long time.
Just a thought, as a NASCAR CUP FAN all. My life 50plus yrs.. We talk track size, adding more, having points races..Why not break up Cup Series - East/West draw a line through North America, include tracks or road courses in Canada and Mexico. Basically Double the teams, double drivers, sponsors, JOBS..Then would a play-off be Awesome - East vs West Division To find a True Champion!.. just saying.. Best of all Worlds..
Imagine being the guy who painted that line. He's got friends over, drinking beer getting ready to watch the race. He's probably telling them, "The race begins and ends with me!" His friends give it a sly grin and move on. Then that finish happens Lol 😂
The more I think about that white line being purely ceremonial, the angrier I get. Makes me feel dumb that I'm watching these close finishes and basing them off of the line only to find out that it's just there for show.
Really? You're just going to let the fans sit there and believe it matters, especially for the most important part of any race? Dang.
literally any sport in the world that wants to determine an objective winner in some sort of race uses this kind of technology. it works. yeah sure, maybe the painting of the line could be a bit better, but there's no chance we're going away from using beams of lasers to determine an objective winner.
Jessie Collins
Do we really need more inters? NO! We NEED to FIX ST, RC, SS FTL & fuel saving, Aero Blocking & no passing, get tires that wear FIRST! Then talk to me about changing tracks! We need on track practice, teams need a larger area to work in to help develop the NEXT GEN!!!!!!!!
We only have 5 road courses, we lost the daytona road course, road america and the indy road course, yes im a nascar fan and an oval racing fan but i love road and street courses, like i said i love the nascar cup series but i also love formula 1, formula e, Indycar, WEC and the IMSA weathertech sportscar championship, would love to see some crossover between all these great series on road and street courses, only the best drivers can consistently win at road courses
I never complained about the 1.5 milers. Sometimes you have bangers and sometimes you don’t, that’s the beauty of racing.
They use the same damn lazers for qualifying, these layers separate 40 cars by what 2or 3 total seconds.....? & yes you r racing to a line, THE LAZER LINE....! What the he'll is the big suprise..........? Love the channel!
Chicagoland is still got a race able surface and the amenities to host racing. It is currently hosting events
I love short tracks I remember having to get on a waiting list for tickets at Bristol motor speedway but the changes in cars and the track have disappointed fans and done away with that use to be the best racing of all the tracks no questions at all
Maybe we should have a look at all the painted start/finish line.
bring back Chicagoland speedway!!
been there 4 times..
loved it every time ❤❤
I'm from the UK, and I'd love for NASCAR to come over here, but I agree, I wouldn't want it to be on a Road Course, it would have to be an Oval, which obviously doesn't exist over here, unfortunately.
The CARS Tours is kick butt! I love it!!!
I know the thing I want to be adapted by NASCAR. I'm a big fan of getting to see another a clear way to decide the winner and just lineup all of the racers and do a remake of the last finish of 2 laps and I guarantee it will be a different winner and leave no doubt
Well I do agree with adding more mile and a half tracks I think Nascar should fix the Short Tracks. 2 of those tracks can be achievable by putting the Charlotte fall race back on the oval and moving the Chicago street Course back to Chicagoland Speedway. We'll see what the option tire does for North Wilkesboro Next week and see if the Nashville Fairgrounds can clear political hurdles and if the short track at Auto Club gets underway.
North Wilkesboro should stay as the All-star race to keep fixing the Short Tracks and add it for a points race if the product is fixed.
Just hitting Me, with all the trouble with charters and Wisard of Nascar. Shake it up , have International Traving side. Then have US tracks only with no road course's. MORE SHORT TRACKS. At end of season run 3 Races with top 15 from both for Grand Championship! Let teams pick where they want to run.
100% Agree With Dale Jr. On How LA Collision Race Last Two Years Have Been Snooze Feast & Yes NASCAR Definitely Needs Bring Back Chicagoland & Rockingham On Schedule Until California Track Gets Rebuild In Another Year.
Chris Buescher is definitely an underrated driver. The way he split those cars was the coolest move I’ve ever seen. I see a lot of good things coming to the 17 team this season.
Get a thesaurus, underrated is so overused....
FYI: The photo-finish image was not clear, because of the low light exposure and that the camera makes a few thousand images a second. To make the photo-finish image not a photograph as such. The image is a composite made out of those thousands of photographs, put together and combined as one image
As an Indy 500 lifer, id love to see 2 Charlotte oval dates. Only way I'll get a chance to see Charlotte oval race in person is outside of the month of May.
I watched an F1 race for the first time the other day. I was blown away by how different and digestible it was in comparison. Nascar races I feel like are too long.
Kansas race was 10 times better than Atlanta. Atlanta looked like Daytona or Talladega.
Dale Jr makes a convincing case for short tracks imo. Definitely change my feelings on the debate.
Ugh… anytime there’s a good race “the fans” call for more of that style of track. It’s wild to me. “More road courses”… “more short tracks”… how well did those work out in reality?
I could not believe that stat about Buescher having zero top 5s at 1.5 mile tracks and I had to go look for myself and sure enough. Wow. I've seen him lead at 1.5 tracks plenty of times, so I just assumed he'd finished top 5 a few times.
Preach it Dale!..... I don't believe we should do anything with Mexico with all that's going on, we have plenty of venues on our continent without going abroad. Doesn't mean not in the future but not now.
I'm sorry if I don't do this correctly. I've never tried to contact you in any way shape or form. My name is Terry dahlberg and I was very impressed by the fact that you donated your brain to concussion research. I have had multiple heads or injuries my whole life and was wondering exactly what organization you dealt with. I might contact them and see if maybe they would benefit from mine. As I said, sorry to bother you. I don't like to be one of those people but this is something I feel is important
We need to bring back the Kansas night race after what happened. Idk why they got read of it
Fernando Alonzo on Stewart Haas type deal!
Dude, you know there's a difference between the race track, and the apron. Where Buscher crossed is the apron, where Larson crossed is the track.
That's why lines are different.
Need rid apron racing , keep it on the track period
Laser line took care of all guestions
Dude
Let’s get back to Chicagoland and Auto Club now we have this car and show thE DAMN CAMERA VIEW NASCAR USES! We as fans can wait for that official view and adds to the EXPERIENCE 💥 and if NASCAR is going outside the states for a road course then race it instead of a COTA or Chicago street course which I’m absolutely not a fan of…
It would be great to move the Clash around to some of the better weekly short tracks around the country.
Why can’t they line up the painted finish line with the fancy layer camera line to make it the same and please fans, teams, drivers and officials..?
Just go by the tiebreaker rules if not satisfied with the results and to close to call
I’m from California. I happened to be in Charlotte last NASCAR season when the Roval was happening. Never again. I’ll go again to Charlotte for oval racing but no more Roval for me.
I love how Dale forgot the clash happened a day early with almost no notice this year lmao
They should test the cup car at the Rock. It has new pavement and some upgrades
The mad dash to the bathroom is a thing.
I have run into Tony Stewart, Ward, and Jeff Burton in the bathroom at Homestead during the national anthem.
Maybe you meant 'seen'
I think I physically ran into Tony!
the 5 wins on Cinco De Mayo, 5/5 and 5 wins and crickets from the media.
Clue me in, I thought I paid attention....
I have to disagree with Jr and the fans. Yes, more 1.5's are great, but i'm sure that after the next gen car leaves and the gen 8 car comes, people will complain (as NASCAR fans always do) how the 1.5's are the most boring tracks on the schedule and short tracks and road courses are better, so I don't think that we should add more 1.5's and just keep the schedule the way that it is and keep it diverse.
I hope Nascar has a second camera on the opposite side of the track? If a lapped car had been crossing the line just ahead of the winner, you would not have seen who won because the camera view would have been blocked!!
The problem with the Clash is more along the lines of "Everybody runs it" in my opinion. The Shootout/Clash was for people who met a certain achievement that got them in that race. Now it's, damn near provisional bullshit
thought chicagoland was being demolished for development
Brad has, no doubt, helped Chris process his heartbreaking loss...