Nice honors for Arlene Francis! On Board of Directors for 1964 BY World'sFair! On Board of Directors of Bonwit Teller! ( excellent source of designer clothes)..Super PR! She is only woman on both boards. Kudos!🏵🏵
I don’t know how those researchers found those people like pancake makers, but kudos to them. Anthony Quinn was a brilliant actor. So few of the celebrities ever turn and acknowledge the audience when they leave. That was unfortunate and I really admire the ones who did in fact turn to the audience. After all, they were their bread and butter.
Indeed, "Tchin-Tchin" (written by Sidney Michaels, based on the play by Francois Billetdoux), had a successful run on Broadway. It opened at the Plymouth Theatre on Wednesday, 25 October 1962, and ran there until Saturday, 9 February 1963. Then it re-opened at the Ethel Barrymore Theatre the following Monday, 11 February 1963, and ran there until Saturday, 18 May 1963, for a total run (combined, at both theatres) of 222 performances - pretty good, considering that there was a newspaper strike on for quite a few weeks that the play was on Broadway. Anthony Quinn and Margaret Leighton starred in the play from its opening until Saturday, 13 April 1963. Then the understudies (Al Henderson and Nancy Marchand) must have kept it going for the following week, because the roles of Caeserio Grimaldi and Pamela Pew-Pickett were played by Jack Klugman and Arlene Francis beginning on Monday, 22 April 1963. I don't know if they stayed with the show until it closed or if they left sooner. (Others in the play's cast were Jean Barker, Sandy Baron, and Charles Grodin.) The play was produced by David Merrick, staged by Peter Glenville (associate producer Warner LeRoy succeeded him as director when the play moved to the Ethel Barrymore), with sets and lighting designed by Will Steven Armstrong and costumes designed by Theoni V. Aldridge. By the way: Anthony Quinn was not nominated for a Best Actor Academy Award for his performance as Mountain Rivera in the film version of Rod Serling's "Requiem for a Heavyweight" - nor was the film nominated for an Oscar in any other category. (The five nominees were: Marcello Mastroianni for "Divorce Italian Style," Peter O'Toole for "Lawrence of Arabia," Burt Lancaster for "Birdman of Alcatraz," Jack Lemmon for "Days of Wine and Roses," and Gregory Peck (who won), for "To Kill a Mockingbird.") I wonder which play Arlene Francis was appearing in at the Royal Poinciana Playhouse in Palm Beach?
The ski tow in Van Cortlandt Park interested me. The NYC Department of Parks & Recreation website says three public ski slopes were opened on the back hills of the park's golf course in the winter of 1961. The Bronx ski slopes lasted only a few years before winter golfers reclaimed the course. On another site, someone who skied there guessed the slopes lasted until about 1966. Other sites report recent downhilling by some adventurous souls who rediscovered the old ski area.
Pancakes are not purely vegetable, at least in my experience. Nearly every recipe includes an egg and milk or buttermilk, which are animal products. I know that now there are vegan alternatives, as well as milk-free or egg-free recipes for specific food allergies, but these are exceptions today and would have been even scarcer in 1963.
The categories, animalm vegetqble, mineral, are commonly used to designate general categories. "Vegetable," uses in this way, just means the product is something that once grew in or from the ground.
I think Anthony Quinn's voice came through despite his funny attempt to hide it. Dorothy and Bennett would have gotten it even earlier, but if not for Arlene, I think the panel might have had more of a tussle with him.
Ok, when the two congressional representatives (The Boltons) walked on stage, I thought for sure they were actors in a 1930s gangster movie re-make. Time warp! They looked SO Depression Era
@@hopelewis5650 Living under three terms of a Stalinist-sympathizing "POTUS" will likely have that effect on one's appearance. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
RE: Arlene on Board of Directors, World's Fair. The whole enterprise of the 1964 New York World's Fair was somewhat controversial. Whatever board that approved legitimate Worlds Fairs did not sanction it. -- but ironically enough, it was the most famous world's fair since New York 1939. I do not know when Arlene found time for all the things that she did. She must have been home like 10 minutes a week.
@@kevinkool3 Possibly because I'm sure, as with pages at the US Capitol, they tend to look for people they feel will make a good impression on all the visitors, many of which would have been expected from foreign soil.
@soulierinvestments - She was also the first woman on the Board of Directors of Bonwit Teller. And she travelled quite a lot with all the plays she was in either in summer stock or out of town tryouts, not to mention film and TV work. The only thing that would have saved her sanity would have been that she could sleep on all the airplanes and in all the limousines, she could catch up with friends and relatives by phone from hotel rooms wherever she was performing, she had help resident at home for housekeeping and cooking, her husband being in the business understood what the demands could be, and their son from the time he went to school was resident at the boarding school Deerfield Academy and then Harvard University, both in Massachusetts where she had family. Nonetheless...
@@ivangranger8494 You are so lucky. I don't think when I was young that I had heard any of her radio shows. I did see her on WML and her own TV show from time to time and on other shows when she substituted on one of the morning magazine programs for Dave Garroway or somebody. I suppose I could find audio reproductions of her "Betty & Bob" and other radio work. I tend to look for Jack Benny or Fred Allen or Burns & Allen and other comedy greats when I go in search of those from radio archives. Thanks.
Certainty is not certitude. Anthony Quinn was not nominated for an Oscar for Requiem for a Heavyweight. He was nominated for an Oscar four times in his career of extraordinary longevity. He was nominated twice for Best Supporting Actor, which he won twice. He was also nominated twice for Best Actor but won neither time.
@@leesher1845 He was nominated for Best Actor for Zorba the Greek, and he was outstanding in that role as in many others, but he did not win (Rex Harrison won for My Fair Lady -- that year the other nominees were Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, and Peter Sellers). I read recently that he was considered for the title role in "The Godfather," but obviously did not play the part. He did play John Gotti for HBO It is said that he was personal friends with mobsters in the Genovese crime family and although Brando obviously created a performance for the ages, of all the other actors that I know were considered, Quinn is the one I can imagine playing that part very well.
I enjoyed seeing Phyllis Newman. I only became a fan of her when she stared on One Live to Live and didn't know anything about her until I became addicted with everything Sondhiem in the early 90's.
The Bolton Dynasty of Ohio. Frances looks like she was lots of fun, and Frances actually looks ever inch a Representative in that hat and collar. I believe that no other mother or son have served together in the US House or Senate. France Payne Bolton served in the house from early 1940 to 1969 and lived to age 91.
It has been coming on for months, as evidence by Dorothy's looks in last half of 1962 to early 1963. She got hospitalized for problems associated with bad side effects of alcohol and pill misuse. Of the first 18 live broadcasts or taping sessions of 1963, Dorothy appeared in 8 and did not appear in 10. Phyllis, a Broadway actress and member of the afternoon panel of Goodson-Todman's 3-person-variation-on-a-theme entitled "To Tell The Truth," was the only substitute G-T used for Dorothy's 1963 leave of absence. [Dorothy had multiple substitutes in her 1961 and in 1965 leave of absences.] This, and few other facts visible in subsequent broadcasts, leads me to believe G-T decided to groom her replace Dorothy just in case she could not pull together.
+soulierinvestments An interesting choice as I can't imagine a panelist who could be any more unlike Dorothy Kilgallen than Phyllis Newman. While Dorothy had been heard giggling off camera and many of the bon mots for some time now, on camera during questioning, she was a serious interrogator. Whatever her personality was off stage, on panel shows and when she was on the Tonight Show being interviewed by Johnny Carson, Phyllis struck me as happy and kind of a ding-a-ling - a brunette forerunner to Goldie Hawn.
The Montreal Gazette ran Dorothy Kilgallen's syndicated newspaper column daily, but in early 1963 the column began appearing sporadically, and in late January the newspaper explained that this was due to the New York City newspaper strike. In the Feb. 2 edition the paper ran Louis Sobol's New York Cavalcade, explaining that it would replace Dorothy's column when necessary.
Yes, it was. After Dorothy died unexpectedly, the producers originally wanted to replace with her with either Phyllis Newman or Aileen "Suzy Knickerbocker" Mehle, before deciding to just leave her seat open to rotating guests.
Phyllis would have made a great permanent replacement. No one could truly replace Dorothy, so maybe they thought it would bring on lots of criticism if they permanently replaced her. Similar to Fred Allan.
Yes, this is her first appearance on Sunday Night WML. She was at this point a member of the afternoon panel of "To Tell the Truth." If Dorothy had not pulled together and if Phyllis had replaced her, I wonder if Phyllis would have could have gone under contract to TW3 "That was the Week that Was" in 1964.
***** Gil Fates in his book on WML said, of proposed permanent replacements for Dorothy, that some did not work out for their own personal reasons and others did not work out for the producers's reasons.
Sometimes John Charles Daly had a habit of answering questions for contestants who were perfectly capable of answering the questions themselves, for example, the pancake lady.
I hate it when any of the regulars are absent, but tonight Dorothy AND Bennett are missing. I do enjoy Peter Cook, Phyllis Newman & Martin Gabel, but it ain't the same (slight exception for Martin as he was a semi-regular and somehow got to be the lovely Arlene's husband)! Just glad Miss Francis is anchoring the panel and John is in place.
He somehow got to be Arlene's husband in 1946. Arlene once admitted in "Honest Answers" of syndicated WML that they met in radio, where he was a major figure, and she was at first scared of him. Not much indication of that in WML of the 1960s.
To say the least! Arlene's star certainly outshined Martin's! Was he just one of those guys who couldn't make the transition from tv to radio. He certainly is presentable enough. I wonder what his story is?
In his time, Martin was major on the stage, on radio, and he did a lot of special and guest work on TV. He made movies, but was not as big in it as he was on the stage.
***** "Have Gun Will Travel" was one of the very few shows to begin on television and then later have a radio version. TV version began in 1957, the radio in 1958 for a short run.
Phyllis's glasses. She and Polly Bergen both wore glasses without shame or reservation on TTTT, and Phyllis wore her glasses regularly in both Sunday night and syndicated WML. Boys always make passes at girls who wear glasses -- especially Phyllis Newman.
+soulierinvestments With all due respect to Dorothy Parker, I believe that Polly Bergen's glasses were used as a prop. She was---and I repeat myself---so godawful beautiful that the glasses only served as a distraction from her overwhelming female pulchritude. PS Can I still use "pulchritude" without being attacked by the the Stalinist PC police?
+519DJW Having renounced any membership in PC police departments, I am inclined to act most favorably to anyone who describes me as having pulchritude or as being beautiful, lovely, fetching, attractive, or any other synonym that can be used in polite society. And it doesn't matter to me whether the observer truly thinks so or is merely being gallant. I certainly want to be known for my mind as well, but far be it from me to turn down any compliments to my appearance.
@@519djw6 while I certainly agree that Miss Bergen was beautiful, I have it on good authority that she was tremendously near-sided and much of the world was a blur without her glasses.
When the pancake girl was playing, one of the panelists asked if you could use salt with this product, and got a very definite no. Am I the only one who likes pancakes with lots of butter and salt?
Joe Postove You might be one of few. When my sister was a teenager, she loved to eat raw cabbage with raspberry jam upon. Many would find that a strange combination, but I didnt, although I never tried it myself. :)
Joe Postove Well, I've been presented dishes from many parts of the world, and don't find either your pancake/butter/salt or her cabbage/jam surprising anymore. If you had a garden, growing lettice, herbs and berries, would you find it strange to taste both berries and lettice, at the same time? ;)
Pardon my ignorance WHERE in New York CITY is there a ski-tow? I am well aware of many in the state of NY and a dozen or so NEAR NYC but not IN it. This show was from 1963. They mention that it was in Van Courtland Park which has some hiking trails. Current descriptions make no reference to it. I guess it didn't last very long.
The first season for skiing in Van Cortland Park was the winter of 1962-63 (i.e. the winter of this broadcast). A rope tow was used. Here's a link to a NY Times article of December 1964, the first day of the third season which was used to get out the bugs in the system. www.nytimes.com/1964/12/12/archives/sprayedon-snow-enables-the-van-cortlandt-park-ski-area-to-open-van.html While only short runs are possible, the area is sufficiently hilly that skiing is still done there on an informal basis when natural snowfall occurs. The NYC subways even ran special ski trains to the 242nd Street station on the Broadway-7th Avenue line, running express north of the 96th Street station. But by the end of the decade, the formal ski facilities were gone. I was cross country manager in the early 1970's for an Ivy League university, and I have heard numerous stories about the hills on the cross country course of that time as the team members described how well they did on those tough sections of the course (Cemetery Hill and the back hills). But the ski facilities were definitely gone by November 1970, the first time I was present for the Heptagonal and IC4A cross country championships.
I am sitting at a table,,, having a late lunch on Palm Beach,,, not quite 100 paces from the very theater mentioned by Johnny Oleson in his introduction of Arlene Frances.
He's the only one I have ever seen on the show who had to smoke. I grey up with a chain smoking father and then a chain smoking husband. Once I divorced, the first fridge magnet I got was 'If you are smoking, you'd better be on fire!'
It's sad that a mere 174 years after adoption of the Constitution between states the elected representatives thought that they perform a service for the federal government rather than for the People, and the People were already accepting that as an accurate answer.
Whether the contestant is married or single is irrelevant and even sexist because they don't ask the men. I realize communication has changed greatly over time.
Ok pancake lady, pancakes are for breakfast not for dinner! That immediately threw off the panel and for good reason. And she doesn't even think pancakes should be cut! WTH??
They certainly can be served for dinner. (To me, pancakes for breakfast is a strange concept.) And she asked if it *had to* be cut. Her confusion probably came from the fact that you usually don't cut a pancake before serving it, unlike something like a steak.
+Rikard Peterson In the good old USA, pancakes are almost exclusively associated with breakfast. And that's only because of our "pioneer heritage," when farmers would dig in to "flapjacks," before plowing the "North Forty." Hva slags skandinavier er du?
What's my Line was a show in the United States. the panel were Americans. If anyone said to American's a food you eat for dinner and usually is not cut, would never in a million years think of pancakes.
Crepes are a type of pancake that is regularly served at dinner time in the U.S. and that includes back in 1963 when this episode aired. Even a 10 year child from a lower middle class family (me) had heard of Crepes Suzette at this time, and I would guess that most of the panel members had either eaten that dish or was present when someone else they knew did so. Blintzes or blinis are also popular forms of pancake that are eaten at any time of day, as either a main course or as a dessert, depending upon what they are filled with. They were popular in NYC long before 1963. (However, it would be a few years before Moo Shu Pork would find its way onto the menus of Chinese restaurants in NYC.)
In the multiple hundred episodes I've watched so far I don't think there has EVER been a clean edit either side of the commercials. Was it done by a machine or a child? Or did the editor simply have no interest at all!! Most of the time I just tolerate it but sometimes I think 'oh COME ON!'. I love editing film and would've quite happily, quite easily made a nice clean edit (if not a nice fade out/fade in) at these points. I wouldn't slapdash edit points like they have here for the most trivial Facebook clip let alone a precious historical, televisual document like this.
I’m just grateful for all the effort the RUclips channel owner has put into resurrecting and producing these old shows. It’s clearly a labour of love and it seems rather churlish to me to complain about such a small thing.
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Even though it's years later, I'm still happy for Arlene for her election.
It's nice to see such a young Peter Cook.
Peter Cook was born in 1937 (I think) just a mere lad of 26 or 27 at the time.
I loved him in Zorba the Greek!
Nice honors for Arlene Francis! On Board of Directors for 1964 BY World'sFair! On Board of Directors of Bonwit Teller! ( excellent source of designer clothes)..Super PR! She is only woman on both boards. Kudos!🏵🏵
I don’t know how those researchers found those people like pancake makers, but kudos to them.
Anthony Quinn was a brilliant actor.
So few of the celebrities ever turn and acknowledge the audience when they leave. That was unfortunate and I really admire the ones who did in fact turn to the audience. After all, they were their bread and butter.
People wrote into the show, and included a photo. The announcer told the audience about this on at least one of the shows I watched.
Quinn danced with Rita Hayworth in Blood and Sand.
Hilarious watching them try to guess pancakes.
I've gone to IHOP a few times during the dinner hour, and had pancakes.
Indeed, "Tchin-Tchin" (written by Sidney Michaels, based on the play by Francois Billetdoux), had a successful run on Broadway. It opened at the Plymouth Theatre on Wednesday, 25 October 1962, and ran there until Saturday, 9 February 1963. Then it re-opened at the Ethel Barrymore Theatre the following Monday, 11 February 1963, and ran there until Saturday, 18 May 1963, for a total run (combined, at both theatres) of 222 performances - pretty good, considering that there was a newspaper strike on for quite a few weeks that the play was on Broadway.
Anthony Quinn and Margaret Leighton starred in the play from its opening until Saturday, 13 April 1963. Then the understudies (Al Henderson and Nancy Marchand) must have kept it going for the following week, because the roles of Caeserio Grimaldi and Pamela Pew-Pickett were played by Jack Klugman and Arlene Francis beginning on Monday, 22 April 1963. I don't know if they stayed with the show until it closed or if they left sooner. (Others in the play's cast were Jean Barker, Sandy Baron, and Charles Grodin.)
The play was produced by David Merrick, staged by Peter Glenville (associate producer Warner LeRoy succeeded him as director when the play moved to the Ethel Barrymore), with sets and lighting designed by Will Steven Armstrong and costumes designed by Theoni V. Aldridge.
By the way: Anthony Quinn was not nominated for a Best Actor Academy Award for his performance as Mountain Rivera in the film version of Rod Serling's "Requiem for a Heavyweight" - nor was the film nominated for an Oscar in any other category. (The five nominees were: Marcello Mastroianni for "Divorce Italian Style," Peter O'Toole for "Lawrence of Arabia," Burt Lancaster for "Birdman of Alcatraz," Jack Lemmon for "Days of Wine and Roses," and Gregory Peck (who won), for "To Kill a Mockingbird.")
I wonder which play Arlene Francis was appearing in at the Royal Poinciana Playhouse in Palm Beach?
'Requiem' was a great film. Can't figure why it came up empty. Too depressing, maybe?
The ski tow in Van Cortlandt Park interested me. The NYC Department of Parks & Recreation website says three public ski slopes were opened on the back hills of the park's golf course in the winter of 1961. The Bronx ski slopes lasted only a few years before winter golfers reclaimed the course. On another site, someone who skied there guessed the slopes lasted until about 1966. Other sites report recent downhilling by some adventurous souls who rediscovered the old ski area.
Pancakes are not purely vegetable, at least in my experience. Nearly every recipe includes an egg and milk or buttermilk, which are animal products. I know that now there are vegan alternatives, as well as milk-free or egg-free recipes for specific food allergies, but these are exceptions today and would have been even scarcer in 1963.
They never said "purely".
The categories, animalm vegetqble, mineral, are commonly used to designate general categories. "Vegetable," uses in this way, just means the product is something that once grew in or from the ground.
I think Anthony Quinn's voice came through despite his funny attempt to hide it. Dorothy and Bennett would have gotten it even earlier, but if not for Arlene, I think the panel might have had more of a tussle with him.
Thanks s and thanks Mr Quinn.
Ok, when the two congressional representatives (The Boltons) walked on stage, I thought for sure they were actors in a 1930s gangster movie re-make. Time warp! They looked SO Depression Era
Republicans
@@hopelewis5650 Living under three terms of a Stalinist-sympathizing "POTUS" will likely have that effect on one's appearance. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
RE: Arlene on Board of Directors, World's Fair. The whole enterprise of the 1964 New York World's Fair was somewhat controversial. Whatever board that approved legitimate Worlds Fairs did not sanction it. -- but ironically enough, it was the most famous world's fair since New York 1939. I do not know when Arlene found time for all the things that she did. She must have been home like 10 minutes a week.
Hmmmm...so is that how her son Peter Gabel got a job there as tour guide, through her influence?
@@kevinkool3 Possibly because I'm sure, as with pages at the US Capitol, they tend to look for people they feel will make a good impression on all the visitors, many of which would have been expected from foreign soil.
@soulierinvestments - She was also the first woman on the Board of Directors of Bonwit Teller. And she travelled quite a lot with all the plays she was in either in summer stock or out of town tryouts, not to mention film and TV work. The only thing that would have saved her sanity would have been that she could sleep on all the airplanes and in all the limousines, she could catch up with friends and relatives by phone from hotel rooms wherever she was performing, she had help resident at home for housekeeping and cooking, her husband being in the business understood what the demands could be, and their son from the time he went to school was resident at the boarding school Deerfield Academy and then Harvard University, both in Massachusetts where she had family. Nonetheless...
Philippa Pay I remember listening to her on my parents Radio, when I was younger also!
@@ivangranger8494 You are so lucky. I don't think when I was young that I had heard any of her radio shows. I did see her on WML and her own TV show from time to time and on other shows when she substituted on one of the morning magazine programs for Dave Garroway or somebody. I suppose I could find audio reproductions of her "Betty & Bob" and other radio work. I tend to look for Jack Benny or Fred Allen or Burns & Allen and other comedy greats when I go in search of those from radio archives. Thanks.
Certainty is not certitude. Anthony Quinn was not nominated for an Oscar for Requiem for a Heavyweight. He was nominated for an Oscar four times in his career of extraordinary longevity. He was nominated twice for Best Supporting Actor, which he won twice. He was also nominated twice for Best Actor but won neither time.
He never won for best actor in Zorba the Greek? He was outstanding in that.
@@leesher1845 He was nominated for Best Actor for Zorba the Greek, and he was outstanding in that role as in many others, but he did not win (Rex Harrison won for My Fair Lady -- that year the other nominees were Richard Burton, Peter O'Toole, and Peter Sellers). I read recently that he was considered for the title role in "The Godfather," but obviously did not play the part. He did play John Gotti for HBO It is said that he was personal friends with mobsters in the Genovese crime family and although Brando obviously created a performance for the ages, of all the other actors that I know were considered, Quinn is the one I can imagine playing that part very well.
I enjoyed seeing Phyllis Newman. I only became a fan of her when she stared on One Live to Live and didn't know anything about her until I became addicted with everything Sondhiem in the early 90's.
Somebody needs to order a chair or two for the set.
The Bolton Dynasty of Ohio. Frances looks like she was lots of fun, and Frances actually looks ever inch a Representative in that hat and collar. I believe that no other mother or son have served together in the US House or Senate.
France Payne Bolton served in the house from early 1940 to 1969 and lived to age 91.
We have breakfast for dinner quite a few times. Pancakes, eggs, sausage, home fries.
Absolutely! We call it "breakfast for dinner" at our house, and we enjoy it frequently.
I was surprised by the weak applause for Anthony Quinn
Especially as,I believe,he'd won his Oscar by then!🎩🤔
It has been coming on for months, as evidence by Dorothy's looks in last half of 1962 to early 1963. She got hospitalized for problems associated with bad side effects of alcohol and pill misuse. Of the first 18 live broadcasts or taping sessions of 1963, Dorothy appeared in 8 and did not appear in 10.
Phyllis, a Broadway actress and member of the afternoon panel of Goodson-Todman's 3-person-variation-on-a-theme entitled "To Tell The Truth," was the only substitute G-T used for Dorothy's 1963 leave of absence. [Dorothy had multiple substitutes in her 1961 and in 1965 leave of absences.] This, and few other facts visible in subsequent broadcasts, leads me to believe G-T decided to groom her replace Dorothy just in case she could not pull together.
+soulierinvestments
An interesting choice as I can't imagine a panelist who could be any more unlike Dorothy Kilgallen than Phyllis Newman. While Dorothy had been heard giggling off camera and many of the bon mots for some time now, on camera during questioning, she was a serious interrogator. Whatever her personality was off stage, on panel shows and when she was on the Tonight Show being interviewed by Johnny Carson, Phyllis struck me as happy and kind of a ding-a-ling - a brunette forerunner to Goldie Hawn.
The Montreal Gazette ran Dorothy Kilgallen's syndicated newspaper column daily, but in early 1963 the column began appearing sporadically, and in late January the newspaper explained that this was due to the New York City newspaper strike. In the Feb. 2 edition the paper ran Louis Sobol's New York Cavalcade, explaining that it would replace Dorothy's column when necessary.
Government killed her, not her demons
How they couldn't tell by his voice
Was this Phyllis Newman's first appearance on WML? I've seen her on later shows and other G-T programs, and she is a pleasure.
Yes, it was. After Dorothy died unexpectedly, the producers originally wanted to replace with her with either Phyllis Newman or Aileen "Suzy Knickerbocker" Mehle, before deciding to just leave her seat open to rotating guests.
Phyllis would have made a great permanent replacement. No one could truly replace Dorothy, so maybe they thought it would bring on lots of criticism if they permanently replaced her. Similar to Fred Allan.
Yes, this is her first appearance on Sunday Night WML. She was at this point a member of the afternoon panel of "To Tell the Truth." If Dorothy had not pulled together and if Phyllis had replaced her, I wonder if Phyllis would have could have gone under contract to TW3 "That was the Week that Was" in 1964.
***** Mehle would have been a good replacement, bringing to the show the prestige of hard-working woman of the world writer.
***** Gil Fates in his book on WML said, of proposed permanent replacements for Dorothy, that some did not work out for their own personal reasons and others did not work out for the producers's reasons.
The 1964 New York World's Fair was not sanctioned.
Sometimes John Charles Daly had a habit of answering questions for contestants who were perfectly capable of answering the questions themselves, for example, the pancake lady.
Just his eagerness,as moderator,to keep things moving 🎩
He liked the sound of his own voice. So did Bennett. Windbags.
Phyllis Newman sounded ditzy, but actually she was very smart; you can see it in her questions.
I hate it when any of the regulars are absent, but tonight Dorothy AND Bennett are missing. I do enjoy Peter Cook, Phyllis Newman & Martin Gabel, but it ain't the same (slight exception for Martin as he was a semi-regular and somehow got to be the lovely Arlene's husband)! Just glad Miss Francis is anchoring the panel and John is in place.
He somehow got to be Arlene's husband in 1946. Arlene once admitted in "Honest Answers" of syndicated WML that they met in radio, where he was a major figure, and she was at first scared of him. Not much indication of that in WML of the 1960s.
To say the least! Arlene's star certainly outshined Martin's! Was he just one of those guys who couldn't make the transition from tv to radio. He certainly is presentable enough. I wonder what his story is?
In his time, Martin was major on the stage, on radio, and he did a lot of special and guest work on TV. He made movies, but was not as big in it as he was on the stage.
I said from from tv to radio, didn't I? Geezz! The only guy who made that trip was Paladin (inside radio reference...does anybody know what I mean)?
***** "Have Gun Will Travel" was one of the very few shows to begin on television and then later have a radio version. TV version began in 1957, the radio in 1958 for a short run.
Arlene seems more alert without Dorothy. I always had this picture in my mind that they went out for a few drinks before each episode.
Sometimes they are blasted
Phyllis's glasses. She and Polly Bergen both wore glasses without shame or reservation on TTTT, and Phyllis wore her glasses regularly in both Sunday night and syndicated WML. Boys always make passes at girls who wear glasses -- especially Phyllis Newman.
+soulierinvestments With all due respect to Dorothy Parker, I believe that Polly Bergen's glasses were used as a prop. She was---and I repeat myself---so godawful beautiful that the glasses only served as a distraction from her overwhelming female pulchritude. PS Can I still use "pulchritude" without being attacked by the the Stalinist PC police?
+519DJW
Having renounced any membership in PC police departments, I am inclined to act most favorably to anyone who describes me as having pulchritude or as being beautiful, lovely, fetching, attractive, or any other synonym that can be used in polite society. And it doesn't matter to me whether the observer truly thinks so or is merely being gallant. I certainly want to be known for my mind as well, but far be it from me to turn down any compliments to my appearance.
@@519djw6 while I certainly agree that Miss Bergen was beautiful, I have it on good authority that she was tremendously near-sided and much of the world was a blur without her glasses.
@@bartgreenberg9001 OK. I didn't know that. Either way, she was a knock-out!
Shame? That would be vanity which is really ego centered
When the pancake girl was playing, one of the panelists asked if you could use salt with this product, and got a very definite no. Am I the only one who likes pancakes with lots of butter and salt?
Joe Postove You might be one of few. When my sister was a teenager, she loved to eat raw cabbage with raspberry jam upon. Many would find that a strange combination, but I didnt, although I never tried it myself. :)
C'mon, c'mon! Pancakes with butter might be off the dinghy a bit. But raw cabbage with raspberry jam; a definite sickness!
Joe Postove Well, I've been presented dishes from many parts of the world, and don't find either your pancake/butter/salt or her cabbage/jam surprising anymore. If you had a garden, growing lettice, herbs and berries, would you find it strange to taste both berries and lettice, at the same time? ;)
SuperWinterborn I'm a city boy. I eat store boughten goods!
Joe Postove I think a majority of the commentators here are city dwellers. This fact shouldn't outrule our ability of imagination, should it? ;)
Our Pancakes are rather different-and bigger-than yours,John...but,yes,we do eat them 🎩
So it's "line" as in "line of work" not "line" as in "one-liner"?
I never knew that.
Both Dorothy and Bennett absent at same time...a very different panel🎩
Pardon my ignorance WHERE in New York CITY is there a ski-tow? I am well aware of many in the state of NY and a dozen or so NEAR NYC but not IN it. This show was from 1963. They mention that it was in Van Courtland Park which has some hiking trails. Current descriptions make no reference to it. I guess it didn't last very long.
The first season for skiing in Van Cortland Park was the winter of 1962-63 (i.e. the winter of this broadcast). A rope tow was used. Here's a link to a NY Times article of December 1964, the first day of the third season which was used to get out the bugs in the system.
www.nytimes.com/1964/12/12/archives/sprayedon-snow-enables-the-van-cortlandt-park-ski-area-to-open-van.html
While only short runs are possible, the area is sufficiently hilly that skiing is still done there on an informal basis when natural snowfall occurs. The NYC subways even ran special ski trains to the 242nd Street station on the Broadway-7th Avenue line, running express north of the 96th Street station. But by the end of the decade, the formal ski facilities were gone.
I was cross country manager in the early 1970's for an Ivy League university, and I have heard numerous stories about the hills on the cross country course of that time as the team members described how well they did on those tough sections of the course (Cemetery Hill and the back hills). But the ski facilities were definitely gone by November 1970, the first time I was present for the Heptagonal and IC4A cross country championships.
The Bronx
I know that at one time, lower Manhattan had at least a few hills and swamps. Over time they flattened the hills and filled in the swamps.
I am sitting at a table,,, having a late lunch on Palm Beach,,, not quite 100 paces from the very theater mentioned by Johnny Oleson in his introduction of Arlene Frances.
you're almost famous!
@@washoe4827 - purt near!
*_MEMBERS OF U.S. HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES_*
*_MAKES PANCAKES_*
*_OPERATES SKI TOW IN NEW YORK CITY_*
Daly has a strange part to his hair. IMHO
What is a ski tow?
Lord only knows 🙏
Couldn’t they come up with a second chair for when they have 2 challengers, instead of making them scrunch up on one chair together?
Don't people get tired of complaining about the same things, year after year after year?
What's up with John?. Pancakes are not for dinner.
Yes they are
They sure are honey
I have nade them for dinner.
Pancakes are eaten for dinner in lots of places. In Australia we tend to have them for dessert rather than breakfast, on the whole.
Apparently, there used to be skiing at Van Cortlandt Park circa 1964:
ruclips.net/video/hm95Ecp9kKg/видео.html
Anthony Quinn with a cigarette on the go 🤪
He's the only one I have ever seen on the show who had to smoke. I grey up with a chain smoking father and then a chain smoking husband. Once I divorced, the first fridge magnet I got was 'If you are smoking, you'd better be on fire!'
It's sad that a mere 174 years after adoption of the Constitution between states the elected representatives thought that they perform a service for the federal government rather than for the People, and the People were already accepting that as an accurate answer.
the government is "of" the people, no?
@@washoe4827 No. You are mistaken.
Whether the contestant is married or single is irrelevant and even sexist because they don't ask the men. I realize communication has changed greatly over time.
When men were men & women were true women.
That's correct
Ok pancake lady, pancakes are for breakfast not for dinner! That immediately threw off the panel and for good reason. And she doesn't even think pancakes should be cut! WTH??
They certainly can be served for dinner. (To me, pancakes for breakfast is a strange concept.) And she asked if it *had to* be cut. Her confusion probably came from the fact that you usually don't cut a pancake before serving it, unlike something like a steak.
+Rikard Peterson In the good old USA, pancakes are almost exclusively associated with breakfast. And that's only because of our "pioneer heritage," when farmers would dig in to "flapjacks," before plowing the "North Forty." Hva slags skandinavier er du?
What's my Line was a show in the United States. the panel were Americans. If anyone said to American's a food you eat for dinner and usually is not cut, would never in a million years think of pancakes.
519DJW Your guess is correct. I live in Stockholm.
Crepes are a type of pancake that is regularly served at dinner time in the U.S. and that includes back in 1963 when this episode aired. Even a 10 year child from a lower middle class family (me) had heard of Crepes Suzette at this time, and I would guess that most of the panel members had either eaten that dish or was present when someone else they knew did so.
Blintzes or blinis are also popular forms of pancake that are eaten at any time of day, as either a main course or as a dessert, depending upon what they are filled with. They were popular in NYC long before 1963. (However, it would be a few years before Moo Shu Pork would find its way onto the menus of Chinese restaurants in NYC.)
Quinn did a lousy job disguising his voice.
Mamas boy for sure. 1st guest.
Extraordinary comment.
In the multiple hundred episodes I've watched so far I don't think there has EVER been a clean edit either side of the commercials. Was it done by a machine or a child? Or did the editor simply have no interest at all!! Most of the time I just tolerate it but sometimes I think 'oh COME ON!'.
I love editing film and would've quite happily, quite easily made a nice clean edit (if not a nice fade out/fade in) at these points. I wouldn't slapdash edit points like they have here for the most trivial Facebook clip let alone a precious historical, televisual document like this.
I’m just grateful for all the effort the RUclips channel owner has put into resurrecting and producing these old shows. It’s clearly a labour of love and it seems rather churlish to me to complain about such a small thing.
poor davey... poor, poor davey.
Cheer up David
Some are worse than others. Recently they've not been good but on the whole they were reasonably well edited in my opinion.
It often makes me jump in my chair, but it gives me a good laugh.