KTM 1290 Super Duke R on Racetrack ? vs BMW S1000RR

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  • Опубликовано: 9 янв 2025

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  • @skilomodelista
    @skilomodelista 10 лет назад +30

    KTM 1290 Super Duck R it's a multi purpose bike.
    You can use it to pull a stranded tractor or help a truck to climb a hard hill.

  • @windi1982
    @windi1982 11 лет назад +43

    Torque:
    S1000RR - 112NM
    SuperDuke R - 142NM
    That's all that matters. The KTM is much more FUN!!!!!

  • @zntene
    @zntene 10 лет назад +35

    The BMW is the fastest bike around and made for track and racing use. But I think that the KTM is a better all-around purpose bike by far. Fun is a big factor these days you see...

    • @liamjessup4518
      @liamjessup4518 10 лет назад +5

      the HP4 is quicker but i suppose its just an advanced 1000rr

    • @joaomunhoz1280
      @joaomunhoz1280 7 лет назад

      Did you search for the Ducati Panigale 1299?

  • @DolleHengst
    @DolleHengst 10 лет назад +16

    The best superbike and the best naked bike of this moment. Epic battle

  • @iamthemobey
    @iamthemobey 9 лет назад +23

    The KTM 1290 is my favourite bike ever but the BMW is faster around a track no doubt about it. I guess the KTM rider must be better in this case.

    • @triorgamer1987
      @triorgamer1987 7 лет назад

      oliver mobey bmw rider is michael van de mark and the ktm driver is my step-dad!

  • @leward
    @leward 11 лет назад +1

    For a streetfighter to be this fast on track is extremely impressive. Can't wait to see the upcoming shootouts in the class.

  • @TheKySharpshooter
    @TheKySharpshooter 11 лет назад +13

    Nice video, although by looking at the comments you can tell a lot of people don't realize it's not "fake" or a real race, the BMW is merely keeping pace to get the KTM on film. I do foresee a test next year between the 1290 Super Duke R, the upcoming BMW S1000R, an MV Augusta Brutale 1090RR, and let's throw in the new Monster 1200S to make it a foursome!

  • @ScodellameloIt
    @ScodellameloIt 11 лет назад +6

    Both bikes are super! ..and very nick circuit!

  • @bismillahmashallah
    @bismillahmashallah 11 лет назад +10

    The Beemer isn't even trying lol

  • @christianluff
    @christianluff 10 лет назад +5

    Good little test. I was expecting this to be such a done deal we would see the BMW annihilate the Duke almost regardless of skill/technique! BMW looked to be short shifting much of the time and braking way early in order to help the Duke stay in front but on the occasions where the RR was close to flat out on the straights I'm impressed how close the KTM was.

    • @dheeraj1945
      @dheeraj1945 9 лет назад

      Christian Luff Did they really think ktm stupid fuck had a chance against bmw ? xD

    • @tnghiem
      @tnghiem 9 лет назад +4

      +Dheeraj T you are a pathetic hating jealous loser. The bikes are not even in the same class.

    • @Alexander-gl2bl
      @Alexander-gl2bl 9 лет назад +4

      +Dheeraj T you clearly have no experience what so ever in bikes,

  • @paul2iceman
    @paul2iceman 11 лет назад +1

    guys the S1000rr is in rain mode I've ridden a 2010 on the track and that thing still wants to wheelie (light at front) well over 240kmh. This is a set up... the S1KRR is crazy fast...

  • @apoapsisperiapsis
    @apoapsisperiapsis 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks very much. Enjoy your SV1000, they sound like they have a great engine in them. SV650s are really popular budget race bikes as once you upgrade the suspension internals they handle well, have a versatile and solid engine, and are relatively light in race trim. I always wondered if the same would be true of SV1000s...

  • @kj7687
    @kj7687 11 лет назад +1

    Of course this bike will not beat a fully-faired, purpose-built, full-blown race bike, but it doesn't have to. With a bike like the Superduke R, it's about fun-factor. Pretty hard to have more fun that that (although a hopped up, super-light 450SM might give it a run for it's money)...

  • @scottward8815
    @scottward8815 11 лет назад +1

    In watching this video, it is obvious that it is a clip promoting the KTM for the BMW rider was short shifting, prematurely braking, and just about every other tactic to allow the KTM to take lead. Not to take anything away from the KTM however if I was on that 1000RR that day, the only glimpse you would get of the KTM was through my rear view mirrors........

  • @lolbruah
    @lolbruah 11 лет назад +3

    Hahaha. 01:44 - "Seas, bin wieder da" ^^. Gewicht > VMAX !

  • @jalexandr55
    @jalexandr55 8 лет назад +3

    Well, at least these chaps could ride ! Like it !

  • @MrSiddharthsaini
    @MrSiddharthsaini 11 лет назад +3

    Its not the bike but the rider.....and i feel the guy on KTM was exquisite...

  • @jonw4595
    @jonw4595 10 лет назад

    gonna get me one of those superdukes!
    awesome seeing the ktm at the end of the straight (start/finish), make the move.

  • @MrTragos610d
    @MrTragos610d 9 лет назад

    epic video man...thnx 4 sharing that..
    great performance both!

  • @dando71
    @dando71 10 лет назад

    Bel video davvero, e quello del KTM che non molla, bella prova !

  • @MrNufzed
    @MrNufzed 11 лет назад +3

    I,m betting the guy on the beemer is faster than most of guys passing judgement on his skillset.I,m also betting the guys passing judgement are not real racers but merely,like myself, track day regulars.remember its all a bit of walter mitty fun

  • @SpiderSid007
    @SpiderSid007 8 лет назад

    Kickass battle!
    Kudos to both riders! Awesome stuff..
    But I guess the BMW also fell a bit short due to different lines.. Carefully observe that on the right side corners, the Super Duke is already at the left most edge, prepared to dive in.. Whereas, the BMW is in the middle of the lane, and has to adjust his line at the last moment..
    But epic battle all in all! (y)

  • @valantj
    @valantj 11 лет назад

    Just to add: air drag rises exponentialy, at 200 km/h it is 4 times bigger as it is at 100km/h... So fairings do have meaning :)

  • @cptainklunk6438
    @cptainklunk6438 11 лет назад

    Nice riding. Both great bikes. What circuit is this?

  • @kimberedgariando4900
    @kimberedgariando4900 9 лет назад +5

    running in that speed without windshield :3 superduke driver (y)

  • @KTMan
    @KTMan 11 лет назад

    RC8R, 990SMR, Duke Track on the racetrack... It's a teasing, for sure !

  • @CARMONAxStunna
    @CARMONAxStunna 11 лет назад

    comes out later this year, October or November i think.

  • @War10ck1004
    @War10ck1004 11 лет назад

    it also looks faster when exiting the corner, but the aerodynamic may be the problem over 200km/h

  • @joshua3113
    @joshua3113 11 лет назад

    Yeah, this is the rider. That BMW is possibly the finest bike made for tracks. I know the new super duke is fast but the right rider on that s1000 will just kill everything. Still that KTM is an absolute monster. Wow. The specs they're boasting will probably scare the sx14's and busa's even. If it's what they say it is it's going to be badass.

  • @NoobInaCan
    @NoobInaCan 11 лет назад +9

    awesome! people who are trying to turn this into some kind of cock fight don't understand anything about riding bikes fast, the comradrie and the fact that both riders are probably buddies enjoying a laugh and having fun. It doesn't matter if you're on a 25k bike or a 2k SV650 that's seen better days!

    • @MrVeggis1964
      @MrVeggis1964 6 лет назад +1

      i was waiting for that..
      The master... who probably rides on a 50 cc...

  • @johnkittinger988
    @johnkittinger988 11 лет назад

    nice riding.
    you should check the brake fluid reservoir, it looks pretty low.

  • @apoapsisperiapsis
    @apoapsisperiapsis 11 лет назад

    I do find it problematic following another racer closely. I feel they obscure my view and hinder me getting my braking or tip-in points right. Im also a little uncomfortable if I'm a bit faster through the section and my pace brings me right up behind them with momentum, if they slow down near the apex I'd be forced to run wide or brake mid corner. Their lines aren't really the distraction though, I'm always watching theirs and adjusting mine to give me an advantage or overtaking opportunity.

  • @73csp
    @73csp 11 лет назад +4

    both good riders but it goes to show you if your bike is set up and the rider has good exsperience then a slower bike can be faster in a lap !!

  • @apoapsisperiapsis
    @apoapsisperiapsis 11 лет назад

    This was far more a comparison of rider ability than it was the bikes. The BMw rider was either backing off in order to film the KTM pretty much everywhere, or the KTM rider had quite a bit more ability. I'm sure the KTM is very fast though, I'd love one!

  • @firebladeflow
    @firebladeflow 11 лет назад

    Endlich bekommt die SDuke mal Eier! Ich freu mich sehr auf die Probefahrt!

  • @JoacimBoive
    @JoacimBoive 6 лет назад +1

    Sweet race! Nice riding from both riders! The BMW rider needs to work on his braking though. 😉💪🏻

  • @DarudeSandstormVEVO
    @DarudeSandstormVEVO 9 лет назад +2

    For not being a supersport nor having a windshield that's a good ride...
    However the track layout is more in favor of torque than HP.
    On a different track things could be different... nevertheless we are watching top notch machines here.

    • @iamthemobey
      @iamthemobey 9 лет назад

      He must have seriously strong neck muscles! I'm surprised the bmw didn't monster it though. The KTM Is my dream bike but the bmw is definitely faster.

    • @DarudeSandstormVEVO
      @DarudeSandstormVEVO 9 лет назад

      +oliver mobey
      It sure is on the high revs...
      So 0-100 km/h => SuperDuke 1290R
      Everything above that and the Rice Rockets take over.
      But you don't buy a SuperDuke 1290R as a track bike. On the road within the "legal speed limits" the torque of that KTM is just way more usefull than a superbike.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious 11 лет назад +1

    He's trying to film the KTM, dude. It's clear he's sandbagging it, but that's fine. The Duke is not a race bike and the S1000RR is not a naked hooligan bike.

  • @rcoles82
    @rcoles82 11 лет назад +1

    nice video that look like fun.

  • @PapaDuke_1
    @PapaDuke_1 7 лет назад +1

    Was that a rc8 @ 230ish?

  • @GruessSie
    @GruessSie 11 лет назад

    Holla die Waldfee! Der stofft ganz schön an - und is a genialer Spätbremser!

  • @MarkosManiadakis
    @MarkosManiadakis 6 лет назад

    Awesome video!!!

  • @TreyYoung1234
    @TreyYoung1234 11 лет назад

    That was a great run you two

  • @Budschidau
    @Budschidau 11 лет назад

    The new Super Duke 1290 goes up to 293 kph according to an statement of an test driver in the mag "Reitwagen".

  • @nurfaikhamhaiqal2528
    @nurfaikhamhaiqal2528 8 лет назад +1

    comparing hp and torq for both
    s1000rr= 199.4hp, 112nm
    superduke=179hp, 142nm
    duke great for stunt and wheelies, but s1000rr better for those speed lovers

  • @nergal4235
    @nergal4235 10 лет назад +9

    i would like to see the ktm's guy driving the s1000rr...

  • @johnclauss9877
    @johnclauss9877 11 лет назад +1

    Gee, why is the BMW short shifting every gear? Why is he staying in second instead of first on the real tight turns? To let the KTM stay ahead. watch the tach, either the BMW rider is sandbagging, or he just isn't a very good rider.

  • @Staysa001
    @Staysa001 10 лет назад +4

    Shifting early a lot of the time O.o?

  • @powermagarac
    @powermagarac 11 лет назад

    Krank! Was bekam der Dukepeitscher zum Frühstück? :-)))

  • @apoapsisperiapsis
    @apoapsisperiapsis 11 лет назад

    This was far more a comparison of rider ability than it was the bikes.

  • @georgelalas9102
    @georgelalas9102 11 лет назад

    nice track!Where is it?

  • @StrikeLetsPlay
    @StrikeLetsPlay 11 лет назад

    ich würde mal sagen das ist der A1 Ring in Österreich oder wie er jetzt heißt " Red bull ring"

  • @TheRS765
    @TheRS765 11 лет назад

    and yet the ktm kept good pace ahead, not too shabby.

  • @mattthon
    @mattthon 11 лет назад

    Wow, that's a race! S1000 clearly faster top end but superduke had the upper hand in corner entry by far and a bit more agile in the corner. Nevertheless both bikes are fast, awesome and were ridden near their limits!

  • @irnieracing
    @irnieracing 11 лет назад

    lol.. why the slow mo

  • @dave80h
    @dave80h 11 лет назад

    I have an S1000, seriously considering a Superduke. I know this video is staged but still like that KTM. Good video.

  • @xPangerLenisx
    @xPangerLenisx 11 лет назад

    das schließt du woraus?

  • @tableta134
    @tableta134 11 лет назад

    also wen man genau hin sieht ist der Ramen anderst als bei den normalen ktm dukes wo es zurzeit gibt und die leistung spricht für sich

  • @karlfontanari2169
    @karlfontanari2169 11 лет назад

    Very impressive machine I would ride the KTM all day long and be fine the 1000RR might be a different story being 6'2 cant wait to sit on one at the Motorcycle live show at the NEC and could be tempted to part x my Z1000SX 130bhp for 180bhp looks way more fun and in the real world would take this bike every time also there is sure to be some aftermarket screen fairings etc in due course..

  • @thebarber1584
    @thebarber1584 11 лет назад +2

    nothing fake here.both riders are very good rider on the 1290 duke is better and more skilled.probably Jeremy McWilliams former gp rider who developed ktm1290r? hes always on the perfect line,sooper smooth, he clips every single apex with excellent accurasy every lap and outbrakes bmw every time at the end of the straight. So,if they r on ktm both of them the bmw rider most likely vould see him first 2-3 corners and that would be all for the day! cheers!

  • @Patriiiiick
    @Patriiiiick 11 лет назад

    Is that Jeremy on the KTM?

  • @dannyr.watson1423
    @dannyr.watson1423 11 лет назад

    Great video, Love how your s1 keeps up with damn near a 1300cc bike, even passing him in some of the straights. Gotta love the aggressiveness of the track!

  • @teamcrumpracing4376
    @teamcrumpracing4376 11 лет назад

    OK, read carefully... Club level is RELATIVELY close, compared to track days for example which have both the slowest non racers and the fastest pro racers. BUT JUST AS YOU SAY even in that environment where ability is much closer, there is still a very significant variance in pace. Which is exactly why you get people on supermotos beating people on superbikes in the streetfighters class. That was what I said from the beginning. But you have proven time and time again that you can't read.

  • @lionelthibaut9522
    @lionelthibaut9522 11 лет назад

    The guy on the Superduke seems to have more talent than the other one cause he brake too quickly and dont manage to keep his speed has well as the Ktm rider... anyway those bikes both seems so amazing!

  • @d4rkdr4g0n96
    @d4rkdr4g0n96 11 лет назад

    Ja ist die neue superduke!
    Deutlich am orange/weißen heckrahmen und dem dicken auspuff rechts zu erkennen!

  • @frostbite000
    @frostbite000 4 года назад

    i can't understand which one has more acceleration power

  • @ephereus
    @ephereus 11 лет назад

    respect... wait for a testride...

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 5 лет назад

    1290 doesn't have anywhere near the same suspension quality as the BMW in factory form. Can be improved a lot. Just shows how capable it really is.

  • @twistednemo
    @twistednemo 11 лет назад

    Is that really a 1290 Superduke? Damn good cornering!

  • @Benifa
    @Benifa 8 лет назад +3

    BMW it's a very best bike, but the pilot of the KTM bike is very best pilto

  • @valantj
    @valantj 11 лет назад

    I personaly ride a single cylinder supermotard, and there is no way i catch any of sportbikes, simply because my top speed is 170km/h, which is speed of entrance on straight here, where sportbikes reach 270 on end... No way hard breaking (as my bike has 80 kilos less) can compensate that! Also in high speed bends, SM is itchy... On twisty tracks, there is a difference... now did that answer you?

  • @valantj
    @valantj 11 лет назад

    Yup... the BMW has advantage of more rpm and also of fairings... air resistance maters a LOT at high speeds... Im quite surprised KTM is as fast om straights...

  • @wartrain12
    @wartrain12 11 лет назад

    What will msrp be?

  • @kurikost
    @kurikost 11 лет назад

    kommt mir auch so vor, bei 2.12 Minuten verbremst er sich und hat danach die verlorenen Meter wieder schnell gutgemacht. Auffallend ist auch das er vor den Kurven, wenn er vorne ist, auffallend extrem herunterbremst. Wahrscheinlich wieder so eine virale Werbeaktion

  • @auser11223344
    @auser11223344 11 лет назад +6

    der KTM-Treiber ist aber eine Sau. Immer auf der letzten Rille vor der Kurve schwub vorbei... mir wird übel

    • @tech-gv7id
      @tech-gv7id 10 лет назад +2

      dafür ist die KTM auch da...

    • @marcus.s.
      @marcus.s. 6 лет назад

      Der Fahrer der BMW bremst aber auch 100Meter zu früh.

    • @serotm638
      @serotm638 6 лет назад +1

      Wieso übel genau das ia gutes fahren im richtigen moment bremsen so geht motorsport 👍

  • @muckle8
    @muckle8 11 лет назад

    did you notice the ktm rider with his left hand off the bar down the straight? i think he was sayin to the beemer come on give me all you got ! im gonna trounce you on braking and through the corners anyhow! im def getting that 1290 duke!

  • @blinddemetrius2488
    @blinddemetrius2488 11 лет назад

    Can't stop watching this! Need to save for a superduke or look at finance

  • @DMNCKM
    @DMNCKM 11 лет назад

    Das nenne ich riding skills !

  • @jeanmariebiehl756
    @jeanmariebiehl756 9 лет назад

    belle course , le compte-tour de la béhème ne triche pas ...
    sûr , le pilote de la ktm est un bon sur une machine de style roadster...
    châpeau , ça va vite pour les deux , mais comme j'ai une katoche !
    Bravo à ktm d'avoir créer une telle "BEAST" ...rdv en mgp !!!!! avec le rc16...

  • @6speedsti241
    @6speedsti241 8 лет назад

    why hold back???

  • @apoapsisperiapsis
    @apoapsisperiapsis 11 лет назад

    Of course fairings have meaning, I never said anything to suggest they do not.

  • @JDoubleOP
    @JDoubleOP 10 лет назад

    RR Jagt??

  • @Performance1985
    @Performance1985 11 лет назад

    Leider fehlen der KTM zur BMW oben heraus 20 PS.Ich bin kein BMW Freund,aber der Motor liegt in allen Bereichen wie Mitteldrücke,Drehzahl,Leistung auf F1 Niveau.Diese Erfahrung fehlt KTM und den anderen Motorradherstellern noch. Kawa hat bei der 10er copy-paste gemacht,Audi wird Ducati dorthin bringen.KTM sollte sich ebenso wie die anderen Herstellern mit denen zusammen tun,die hier schon Erfahrungen haben. Und da kenne ich in Deutschland nur noch einen,der hierzu in der Lage ist- KORO

  • @marcomolinari074
    @marcomolinari074 11 лет назад +3

    cè del manico sul kappone o sbaglio?? wow

  • @spercepolnes21
    @spercepolnes21 11 лет назад

    Looks like a nice track

  • @KravWarrior
    @KravWarrior 11 лет назад

    I think a lot of you are missing the point. The 1290 wasn't built as a superbike to contend with the beemer etc. At this speed, that fairing counts for volumes, and it does have a bit more HP. What you should take away from this is that KTM have basically built a naked good enough to hang with the best outright sports bike...a bike that was built to beat the blade, R1, kwakker and gixxer. Let's see you lot hang on to a naked at those speeds. Of the two? I'd have the KTM any day.

  • @Cramec
    @Cramec 10 лет назад +1

    powaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

  • @obersteiger24
    @obersteiger24 11 лет назад +4

    Die BMW hat einen Schaltblitz (Optimaler Schaltpunkt) hat den jemand in diesem Video mal gesehen? .....Ich finde die Super Duke richtig Geil, aber die BMW spielt eigentlich in einer anderen Liga!

    • @MattMagnumIII
      @MattMagnumIII 11 лет назад +2

      nee, hab ich auch nicht, denke der BMW- Treiber fährt nicht ganz voll.
      Denke die zwei gehörten zusammen und machten paar Runden fürs Album.
      Finde auch der BMW-treiber war immer sehr früh auf der Bremse, damit der Duke-Tréiber wieder vor kam.... Wie auch immer, schönes Video war es alle mal.
      Macht so richtig Lust, besonders jetzt in der kalten Jahreszeit

  • @gixertoeknee
    @gixertoeknee 11 лет назад

    Little disappointed with the Ktm in this vid. Is this really the new 1290? The BMW has very similar power and weight stats compared to the Ktm, the only real difference is aerodynamics. Yet the BMW appears to annihilate the Ktm out of every corner and straight. The gain it makes is incredible, not what I was expecting at all. I hope another video is available soon.

  • @fabiankuhnert1530
    @fabiankuhnert1530 11 лет назад

    Da hat KTM einfach mal genau das wesentliche vom Naked fahren an den Nüssen gepackt und mit nem potenten 1,3Liter Schwengel ausgestattet. Gute Arbeit Jungs und sorry für den Ausdruck;-)

  • @AlessandroTorrisi
    @AlessandroTorrisi 11 лет назад

    My god...I'm thinking to change my KTM RC8 for this bike...woahhh what a monster!

  • @Bobby6846
    @Bobby6846 11 лет назад

    Möglich wäre es das es die neue Super Duke ist.

  • @adamjameskehoe2438
    @adamjameskehoe2438 11 лет назад +3

    s1000 changing gear on straights at 11k, missing apex's, running dirty lines...

  • @valantj
    @valantj 11 лет назад

    Well i can read, can you: fairings are fact sportbikes will be, and they are faster on high speed circuits as supermotards etc, by a margin. If piloted by similary skilled pilots, they will open gap on straights which is to big to close, esp as overtaking in bends is hard.. Also sportbike brakes better, because of lower center of gravity as supermotard.. higher center of gravity means more torque at breaking, means that supermotards can not brake as hard, because they tend to rise backwheel up.

  • @Nekminute
    @Nekminute 3 года назад +1

    No fairings = no problem !

  • @jeffhurst2141
    @jeffhurst2141 11 лет назад

    KTM always! A bike made just for me.

  • @steinert
    @steinert 11 лет назад

    Keine Ahnung was du hier erzählen willst. Aber nur mal zur Info für dich: die Duke ist NICHT KTMs Rennsemmel, sondern ein sportlicher allrounder just for fun...

  • @Jake_203
    @Jake_203 7 лет назад

    I think that the 1290 is as fast as the S1000RR until 200km/h or Maybe 250.

  • @northwestcoupes2688
    @northwestcoupes2688 11 лет назад

    this video is clear evidence that the naked, ride comfortably every day on the street KTM is an absolute beast.....

  • @bagheadbaby
    @bagheadbaby 11 лет назад

    whats with shifting up at 10k rpm :L