That first Masters student was very bright, and like Allen remarked, he had a great sense of humour too - "rabbit stew", hahaha Both celebrities played really well here; I'm impressed by how the managed to fit in 4 full games!
Tony Randall was *AMAZING* at *"Password..."* I have the home games, and whenever my friends and I get together for our game nights, I always play the game just like Tony played... Very methodical, calm, and collected... :-)
+MillionthUsername No doubt Dr. Goodwin knew hotdog is a verb and it is a single word: "Frankie couldn't resist the urge to hotdog on his surfboard whenever he wanted to impress Annette."
SuperWinterborn My comment was actually a reference to an episode of "The Odd Couple" where Oscar and Felix appear on "Password" as contestants. It's probably the most well remembered episode of "The Odd Couple" they ever made, but not so much in Norway. ;)
SuperWinterborn Here's the full episode, in 3 parts: Part 1 of 3: ruclips.net/video/ygYAN8PGVgk/видео.html Part 2 of 3: ruclips.net/video/RsOrT41RfjQ/видео.html Part 3 of 3: ruclips.net/video/E9sMjNPfAe4/видео.html Besides being a hilarious episode, it's also a good way to learn the ins and outs and finer points of how to play Password. Felix does a great job of explaining how to affectively use inflections in the Password game (as discussed in another thread on this page).
DAMN. Password was the GREATEST GAME SHOW EVER. Stars loved to be on it just to play. Simple, engaging, clean and intelligent fun. Allen Ludden gave the show its buoyant personality without the phony game show host style that took over later.
Allen's right, Seven Faces of Dr Lao which came out earlier that year, really was Tonys best film work. Also starred Barbara Eden a year before Jeannie.
It's always a treat to watch these two terrific celebrity panelists, but I don't really like the format of allowing each contestant only one turn to play a full game. (I'm still unclear about what is considered a "match" or "round" and what is a "game," but I hope you know what I mean.) Of the nighttime episodes, I like the ones in which the two contestants get to switch partners and stay on for the whole show much better. On the daytime version, the reigning champions always had a chance to stay on and play again, didn't they?
I love this show. I notice they never ask the ladies what they do. They assumed a married woman didn't work. It was always "what does your husband do". Just an observation. We forget women weren't equal in the workforce even in the 60s.
I am assuming that Allan Ludden already knew a little bit about each contestant's background and asked his introductory questions on that basis. I couldn't help finding it embarrassing that the only thing he could come up with to ask Mary White (who I guess must have identified herself as a housewife) was "What does your husband do for a living?") If he didn't know anything else about her, he could have at least said something like, "tell us a little bit about yourself." This way, it seemed as if she had absolutely no identity of her own. :( I know times were different then, and maybe Mrs. White didn't mind, but it still bothers me.
***** Yes, I agree. Sometimes they asked about the women's families, which I feel is more legitimate. I was an "at-home mom" for over 14 years and believe that taking care of a family is a very worthwhile endeavor. Even asking "are you married?" opens the door for the woman to answer something about her own relationship with her husband. But "what does your husband do?" just completely bypasses the woman herself, implying that there is nothing interesting she could possibly say about herself!
+SaveThe TPC I fail to understand why you couldn't draw the conclusion that this show was taped in 1964,when a majority of married woman were not engaged in a career but raising a family,which is what all woman are inclined to do.
ray bryant If you read my comments carefully, you will see that I fully understand that, but my point is that even if she was not employed in the workforce, she surely could have had something interesting to say about herself. (As for "what all women are inclined to do" -- that is an over-generalization, but certainly many women are so inclined, whether or not they also have other careers.)
+SaveThe TPC I read your remarks carefully.Allen posted at least 3 distinct questions covering the general aspects of a woman's activities and you have to take into account that the age range also factored into what he would ask.But as usual,instead of just enjoying a wholesome tv gameshow,someone just has to bring up such useless banter about plain sexism.
They got really stuck with the word "Passion". If it was Tony's attempt to mime the word, I can't tell, but it all went down the wrong track. Wouldn't "Emotion" have been a better clue? I don't know, so I leave the answer to those of you who have English as your native language. :)
SuperWinterborn I'm rarely impressed with the playing in these old episodes of "Password". Part of the problem, I think, is that I grew up with the later shows, "Password Plus" and "Super Password", by which point certain vocal inflections had become standard. E.g., a rising inflection signaled you were looking for the opposite of a word. When you're so used to seeing contestants use these inflections-- and so often-- it's really jarring to see them fumble around without benefit of their use.
What's My Line? It's funny you said that about the inflections, because I was thinking that by this point in 1964 it seemed that the standard clue inflections *had* developed -- at least much moreso than they had in the 1962 episodes. I think not all of the contestants got it, but Tony certainly seemed to have it down.goldenchick85 Me too! -- but even moreso in the earlier episodes.
What's My Line? Another standard aspect of the game as I remember it was that each starting player was given "the option to pass or play," which meant that if he/she thought that it would be easier to get the right answer on the second clue than the first, s/he could pass to the other team. I notice that this strategy option was not yet offered in these early shows. Do you know whether or not it was ever a part of the original "Password" or if it originated with one of the later versions of the program? [*Edit*: I just watched the "Odd Couple" Password episode again, and it at least partially answered my question. That was still the original Password (not Password Plus or SuperPassword), and it did include the option to pass or play. On the other hand, this early 1970s version of the game was the 2nd incarnation of "Password," so I still don't know whether the "pass or play" option was instituted during the initial 1961-67 run of the show or not.]
That first Masters student was very bright, and like Allen remarked, he had a great sense of humour too - "rabbit stew", hahaha
Both celebrities played really well here; I'm impressed by how the managed to fit in 4 full games!
Tony Randall was *AMAZING* at *"Password..."* I have the home games, and whenever my friends and I get together for our game nights, I always play the game just like Tony played... Very methodical, calm, and collected... :-)
He was so good. And so nice to his partners.
This is so cool. Password with Tony Randall. I met him in 1993 on the film set of The Odd Couple reunion movie in my hometown of Vancouver Canada.
I love Tony Randall's clues for frankfurter, "Hot dog! Hot dog! Hot dog!" It's so funny when the receiving person goes blank on something so simple.
MillionthUsername What's even better is that it's an illegal clue, because it's two words. And somehow they let him get away with it over and over!
You're right. I even wrote it as two words and didn't event think about it. That's a tricky one. It's a compound noun but it's not a single word.
MillionthUsername But that's why they had Dr. Reason A. Goodman! :)
+MillionthUsername No doubt Dr. Goodwin knew hotdog is a verb and it is a single word: "Frankie couldn't resist the urge to hotdog on his surfboard whenever he wanted to impress Annette."
Somehow, it just feels wrong for an entire 30 minutes of Tony Randall on Password to not include the clue "Aristophanes" even once. Ridiculous!
What's My Line? Or another ridiculous clue! ;) But he's a good player, he shall have that. :)
SuperWinterborn My comment was actually a reference to an episode of "The Odd Couple" where Oscar and Felix appear on "Password" as contestants. It's probably the most well remembered episode of "The Odd Couple" they ever made, but not so much in Norway. ;)
What's My Line? I know that particular episode. It's floating around here on RUclips somewhere. ;)
SuperWinterborn Here's the full episode, in 3 parts:
Part 1 of 3: ruclips.net/video/ygYAN8PGVgk/видео.html
Part 2 of 3: ruclips.net/video/RsOrT41RfjQ/видео.html
Part 3 of 3: ruclips.net/video/E9sMjNPfAe4/видео.html
Besides being a hilarious episode, it's also a good way to learn the ins and outs and finer points of how to play Password. Felix does a great job of explaining how to affectively use inflections in the Password game (as discussed in another thread on this page).
SaveThe TPC Thanks for the links, TPC! :)
I worked with a lady who went to school withTony Randall, she remembers him as being very shy and introverted.
DAMN. Password was the GREATEST GAME SHOW EVER. Stars loved to be on it just to play. Simple, engaging, clean and intelligent fun. Allen Ludden gave the show its buoyant personality without the phony game show host style that took over later.
Allen's right, Seven Faces of Dr Lao which came out earlier that year, really was Tonys best film work. Also starred Barbara Eden a year before Jeannie.
Dominic reminds me of Richard Boone. 🤔
It's always a treat to watch these two terrific celebrity panelists, but I don't really like the format of allowing each contestant only one turn to play a full game. (I'm still unclear about what is considered a "match" or "round" and what is a "game," but I hope you know what I mean.) Of the nighttime episodes, I like the ones in which the two contestants get to switch partners and stay on for the whole show much better. On the daytime version, the reigning champions always had a chance to stay on and play again, didn't they?
On the CBS daytime version, each contestant played two games. On the ABC version, they allowed champions to play as long as they kept winning.
I love this show. I notice they never ask the ladies what they do. They assumed a married woman didn't work. It was always "what does your husband do". Just an observation. We forget women weren't equal in the workforce even in the 60s.
I am assuming that Allan Ludden already knew a little bit about each contestant's background and asked his introductory questions on that basis. I couldn't help finding it embarrassing that the only thing he could come up with to ask Mary White (who I guess must have identified herself as a housewife) was "What does your husband do for a living?") If he didn't know anything else about her, he could have at least said something like, "tell us a little bit about yourself." This way, it seemed as if she had absolutely no identity of her own. :( I know times were different then, and maybe Mrs. White didn't mind, but it still bothers me.
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Yes, I agree. Sometimes they asked about the women's families, which I feel is more legitimate. I was an "at-home mom" for over 14 years and believe that taking care of a family is a very worthwhile endeavor. Even asking "are you married?" opens the door for the woman to answer something about her own relationship with her husband. But
"what does your husband do?" just completely bypasses the woman herself, implying that there is nothing interesting she could possibly say about herself!
+SaveThe TPC I fail to understand why you couldn't draw the conclusion that this show was taped in 1964,when a majority of married woman were not engaged in a career but raising a family,which is what all woman are inclined to do.
ray bryant If you read my comments carefully, you will see that I fully understand that, but my point is that even if she was not employed in the workforce, she surely could have had something interesting to say about herself. (As for "what all women are inclined to do" -- that is an over-generalization, but certainly many women are so inclined, whether or not they also have other careers.)
+SaveThe TPC I read your remarks carefully.Allen posted at least 3 distinct questions covering the general aspects of a woman's activities and you have to take into account that the age range also factored into what he would ask.But as usual,instead of just enjoying a wholesome tv gameshow,someone just has to bring up such useless banter about plain sexism.
+ray bryant Thank you
They got really stuck with the word "Passion". If it was Tony's attempt to mime the word, I can't tell, but it all went down the wrong track. Wouldn't "Emotion" have been a better clue? I don't know, so I leave the answer to those of you who have English as your native language. :)
SuperWinterborn I'm rarely impressed with the playing in these old episodes of "Password". Part of the problem, I think, is that I grew up with the later shows, "Password Plus" and "Super Password", by which point certain vocal inflections had become standard. E.g., a rising inflection signaled you were looking for the opposite of a word. When you're so used to seeing contestants use these inflections-- and so often-- it's really jarring to see them fumble around without benefit of their use.
What's My Line? I see. A bit awkward, like "What's My Line?" was in the beginning. :)
What's My Line? I know! I keep yelling inflections out loud as I'm watching these, lol
What's My Line? It's funny you said that about the inflections, because I was thinking that by this point in 1964 it seemed that the standard clue inflections *had* developed -- at least much moreso than they had in the 1962 episodes. I think not all of the contestants got it, but Tony certainly seemed to have it down.goldenchick85 Me too! -- but even moreso in the earlier episodes.
What's My Line? Another standard aspect of the game as I remember it was that each starting player was given "the option to pass or play," which meant that if he/she thought that it would be easier to get the right answer on the second clue than the first, s/he could pass to the other team. I notice that this strategy option was not yet offered in these early shows. Do you know whether or not it was ever a part of the original "Password" or if it originated with one of the later versions of the program?
[*Edit*: I just watched the "Odd Couple" Password episode again, and it at least partially answered my question. That was still the original Password (not Password Plus or SuperPassword), and it did include the option to pass or play. On the other hand, this early 1970s version of the game was the 2nd incarnation of "Password," so I still don't know whether the "pass or play" option was instituted during the initial 1961-67 run of the show or not.]
Its a shame jack klugman wasnt the other guest.
aristophanes is ridiculous.