These videos are genuinely both entertaining and informative while being straight to the point. Looking forward to more system design in the future. Keep up the good work!
@@myonlylovejesus887that's an odd way of thinking about this. There's no such thing as "I've learned x amount of programming" or that "I've dived this deep into y", therefore I am now a god at this. Just like in every craft, with each project, you'll improve, but there's no end point to it. You can't "finish" it my guy xD You just continuously learn and continuously dive deep into the current project you're working on. What's in the video is correct, all that's left for you to do is create a bunch of them until you've become a "backend god"
@@Faun471This is so true. And i agree with this 💯. There's no end to this. You have to keep going on with learning and other stuff. And this goes on as long as you're alive. Because this is not a video game. It's a real life thing and it will only end when you die. So keep on learning and happy coding.
I clicked because the title promised a lot haha. But it kinda oversimplifies the backend a bit too much. I expected more. I feel like beginners gloss over what makes backend hard. No offense tho. What I got from the video is all know how to code + database (store data woohoo)api (serve data woohoo) + tests + system design (I kinda wish you talked about a VPS, CDNs, SES, or even just S3 here). There's definitely a lot harder parts I wish I learned better back then: • REST and the HTTP Protocol • Parts of the Request-Response lifecycle (You should definitely learn how Request and Response headers work or how cookies pass through between the browser and your backend, or how you can redirect browsers using the Header) • Implementing your auth from scratch (JWTs vs Sessions) - This is probably super fundamental and I did not see it talked about here at all. Implementing UN/P and OAuth2. • Setting up a database migration system (actually enlightening as hell when you first learn it) - migrate:up, migrate:status, migrate:down, etc. • Backend Architecture - Actually knowing how to vertically/horizontally slice your backend codebase into layers. Appropriately of course. DDD is a must-learn for intermediate developers (a bit overkill in some projects but learning these concepts changed my life). Learn what DAOs, DOs, Repository Pattern, Entities, Aggregates, DTOs, etc. are. You don't need to apply all the concepts but just pick what makes sense. • And yeah, Systems Design probably. Like maybe just an explanation of why you'd probably need S3 (because you can't store blobs in the database, which is a very common usecase for saving pictures, videos, pdfs, etc), and a bunch of other cloud services. • A little bit of CI/CD as well. GitHub actions, making a deployment to a VPS upon pushing to the repo. There's a ton of uncomplicated examples out there (Kamal for example). • A bit of Linux and VPS skills as well: NGINX or Caddy, TLS, adding a domain name, PM2, etc. Deploying a node application on a VPS is a grueling, but valuable learning effort that platforms like Vercel just spoonfed to most devs nowdays.
I appreciate you taking the time to leave a detailed comment! Yeah you’re right about everything, but it’s very hard to fit all of these topics into a video meant to serve as an introduction. I will of course expand on these topics in later videos, but I personally feel it’s hard to understand these concepts without having the grasp of the fundamentals of backend engineering. For example, how can you understand slicing your backend codebase into layers when you don’t even know what a backend codebase looks like? TL;DR - Very good points, but I feel these advance concepts are more suited for a more advanced video - this roadmap is meant to highlight stuff for people looking to just get started with backend engineering.
Being a junior developer can be very overwhelming. Which IT branch should I choose? Web, gaming, AI, science, mobile, hardware? Which path should I choose? Backend, frontend, forehand, fullstack? What technology? .NET? React? Next.JS? Django? Oh, something new has come out, I'll check it out too. What languages to practice? C, C++, C#, Java, Python, JS? Or maybe TS, maybe some Go, Rust, Carbon etc.? Any Python libraries? One roadmap? Second? RUclips? Books? Courses? Documentation? ProjectOdin? Leetcode? AdventOfCode? Kaggle? What else? Maybe design patterns and paradigms? Terribly frustrating and mentally damaging. It is a scandal that neither universities nor companies want to help young people enter the market and become good, happy employees. (I appreciate how many opportunities the IT industry offers, how interesting it all is, but we are not robots to understand it all.)
i started with javascript, coded 1.5 years in it, then moved to python bcs i lost my job, now i find python easier then javascript/typescript. but in general my preferred way is first to learn JS/TS and then move to full stack
@@rex_richies if you know C and C++ it means you know the working of pointers ,stack ,heap . Now choose any domain like web dev , mobile app dev , blockchain dev or embedded system in which you are interested . Java and javascript is the most used language in the market so it will be better to learn any of it and its framework if you want job asap
@@rex_richiesbcuz most (if not all)modern languages are influenced by C and C++. That's why if you'll start with basics, it will be easier to you in the future.
Learned frontend and was interviewed with the front end mindset.. have been full stack since day one.. fire hose tactic starts to go down smooth after a while lmao
Thank you so much this was so informative and helpful, much much better than 99% popular youtubers who only talk about shitty AI and give nothing useful to viewers
My "struggle" with backend after 2 years of working as a backend dev mainly consists of just the sheer number of technologies I have to be familiar with beyond surface level. Headers, migrations, auth, caching, redis, redis clustering, azure, docker, containers, kubernetes, logging, elastic, kibana, grafana, jaeger, Java - maven/gradle, nexus, Linux, "insane" db designs, security, microservice architecture, kafka, holy **** kafka, dealing with bad data, testing, fkin java 6 legacy systems build with ant or smth ffs, postman/curl, Prometheus, Jenkins haha more like Hudson. Sometimes even understanding the hierarchy of your own company, zero documentation beyond detail design with no understanding what the thing you're writing is even supposed to do, very busy seniors that always answer stuff after 8pm, meetings where you have exactly 0 idea what's even being discussed, outdated internal wiki... But I love it honestly because even though I'm lost most of the time, the high you get when you overcome something like this is insane
I think the goal is to become someone useful and not just someone versed in academic programming. Java and golang… Even google doesnt use golang that much. And I remember trying to learn Clean Coders stuff for java. its like a talmud 6000pages long. Id still take something useful like js or python over java and golang.
“Most backend engineers don’t learn how to work with SQL or databases”. 🙄 I would say learning advanced SQL and database is fundamental for backend engineers.
I want to become Java developer but before that do you think it would be better to learn First html,css and JS? According to some jobs offers for Java or backend developers is desirable to know html,css and JS. Not 100% this is the right path but we will see, but I would appreciate any suggestion on this Path. Thank you very much
It’s not hard 🤷🏽♂️. Just learning the common syntax like data types and keywords like in any other language and knowing Object Orientated Programming concepts. It’s not that hard. Just give it time and dedication.
"Most backend engineers do not learn how to work with SQL or databases" 😒, I guess you are right when someone simply identifies as a backend engineer but isn't one.
Im sorry be the laguages that you should really start with should be either C or Assambly x86 if you got much freetime. Then C++ and OOP in C++. Here you've mastered algorithms and OOP time for some DBs and .net with C#. And finaly ur ready to learn whatever you want.
If you want to be a backend engineer, don't be a coder, don't learn "coding principles" based on poor tutorials, be an engineer, study real principled knowledge backed by centuries of science and engineering, be smart. Otherwise, you will be a cheff saying that is doing chemistry. Choose your destinty, or destiny will choose for you. -- Albert Einstein
Yes 100%. Every engineer should be full stack somewhat. Backend engineers’ work impacts the frontend, and vice versa. Also gives you more job opportunities, especially at startups where all engineers are required to work on all parts of the stack.
What are you talking about?? That's how you are supposed to do it. It's stupid to try to learn multiple languages at once. Focus on python first then other languages.
@@aristonsaizoxic1048 I started learning with Python too! There’s nothing wrong with Python at all, it’s one of the most used languages for a reason! I just recommend that after you feel comfortable with Python, you should take a quick look at a language like Java (or C if you’re brave) to understand a few things that Python does automatically for you. You may work with another language in the future so it’s good to know those things. Keep up the great work, you’ll be an excellent engineer!
Just go over pointers, memory concepts in c/c++ after python and you should be good at a high level. But do go over c/c++ if you get the time as it will make transition of languages easy
Honestly, I would rather not recommend anyone start with Java if they're doing backend. Java backend usually means Spring and learning Spring won't teach you as much about the backend as something like Golang where you have to build a lot of stuff yourself and learn how to do things.
He's talking about things like 'pythons' so maybe he's talking about how to deal with snakes? No clue tbh, he's just blabbering nonsense, 0/10, left a dislike smh
Ohhhhhhhh now you guys wanna teach everyone to be a backend God, now that ai is here but when we needed it 10 years ago you guys were hoarding the knowledge like assholes
These videos are genuinely both entertaining and informative while being straight to the point. Looking forward to more system design in the future. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! Excited to get to the system design content!
what a username
This feels like more of an intro to backend engineering, rather than a roadmap.
exactly, he didn't go into detail how much programming should we learn. how much deeper we should go into api. nothing.
Ikr. Just click bait. All this info is entry level.
@@myonlylovejesus887that's an odd way of thinking about this. There's no such thing as "I've learned x amount of programming" or that "I've dived this deep into y", therefore I am now a god at this. Just like in every craft, with each project, you'll improve, but there's no end point to it. You can't "finish" it my guy xD
You just continuously learn and continuously dive deep into the current project you're working on. What's in the video is correct, all that's left for you to do is create a bunch of them until you've become a "backend god"
@@Faun471This is so true. And i agree with this 💯. There's no end to this. You have to keep going on with learning and other stuff. And this goes on as long as you're alive. Because this is not a video game. It's a real life thing and it will only end when you die. So keep on learning and happy coding.
I clicked because the title promised a lot haha. But it kinda oversimplifies the backend a bit too much. I expected more. I feel like beginners gloss over what makes backend hard. No offense tho.
What I got from the video is all know how to code + database (store data woohoo)api (serve data woohoo) + tests + system design (I kinda wish you talked about a VPS, CDNs, SES, or even just S3 here).
There's definitely a lot harder parts I wish I learned better back then:
• REST and the HTTP Protocol
• Parts of the Request-Response lifecycle (You should definitely learn how Request and Response headers work or how cookies pass through between the browser and your backend, or how you can redirect browsers using the Header)
• Implementing your auth from scratch (JWTs vs Sessions) - This is probably super fundamental and I did not see it talked about here at all. Implementing UN/P and OAuth2.
• Setting up a database migration system (actually enlightening as hell when you first learn it) - migrate:up, migrate:status, migrate:down, etc.
• Backend Architecture - Actually knowing how to vertically/horizontally slice your backend codebase into layers. Appropriately of course. DDD is a must-learn for intermediate developers (a bit overkill in some projects but learning these concepts changed my life). Learn what DAOs, DOs, Repository Pattern, Entities, Aggregates, DTOs, etc. are. You don't need to apply all the concepts but just pick what makes sense.
• And yeah, Systems Design probably. Like maybe just an explanation of why you'd probably need S3 (because you can't store blobs in the database, which is a very common usecase for saving pictures, videos, pdfs, etc), and a bunch of other cloud services.
• A little bit of CI/CD as well. GitHub actions, making a deployment to a VPS upon pushing to the repo. There's a ton of uncomplicated examples out there (Kamal for example).
• A bit of Linux and VPS skills as well: NGINX or Caddy, TLS, adding a domain name, PM2, etc. Deploying a node application on a VPS is a grueling, but valuable learning effort that platforms like Vercel just spoonfed to most devs nowdays.
This is very helpful. Can you recommend sources for learning these concepts? I would like to study them on my own.
I appreciate you taking the time to leave a detailed comment! Yeah you’re right about everything, but it’s very hard to fit all of these topics into a video meant to serve as an introduction. I will of course expand on these topics in later videos, but I personally feel it’s hard to understand these concepts without having the grasp of the fundamentals of backend engineering. For example, how can you understand slicing your backend codebase into layers when you don’t even know what a backend codebase looks like?
TL;DR - Very good points, but I feel these advance concepts are more suited for a more advanced video - this roadmap is meant to highlight stuff for people looking to just get started with backend engineering.
@@Codebagel would you mind sharing resources for understanding these topics for someone who is doing a self study?
Send resources my dudes
Quite extensive, definitely agree with you
Being a junior developer can be very overwhelming. Which IT branch should I choose? Web, gaming, AI, science, mobile, hardware? Which path should I choose? Backend, frontend, forehand, fullstack? What technology? .NET? React? Next.JS? Django? Oh, something new has come out, I'll check it out too. What languages to practice? C, C++, C#, Java, Python, JS? Or maybe TS, maybe some Go, Rust, Carbon etc.? Any Python libraries? One roadmap? Second? RUclips? Books? Courses? Documentation? ProjectOdin? Leetcode? AdventOfCode? Kaggle? What else? Maybe design patterns and paradigms?
Terribly frustrating and mentally damaging. It is a scandal that neither universities nor companies want to help young people enter the market and become good, happy employees.
(I appreciate how many opportunities the IT industry offers, how interesting it all is, but we are not robots to understand it all.)
hahah i feel it
@@OlafXD How do you deal with it?
Do you know analysis = paralysis?
If you want money and stability. Dont choose gaming.
Man, found your videos like 1h ago. Can't stop watching as you're nailing everything i need.
Use debugger and breakpoints are game changer for me on testing and debugging part.
where do i find it in notepad?
i started with javascript, coded 1.5 years in it, then moved to python bcs i lost my job, now i find python easier then javascript/typescript. but in general my preferred way is first to learn JS/TS and then move to full stack
i truly feel like if you know the database really well then rest is really easy
Why is that?
Lol it’s far from it
Lmao 😂😂 not at all
Why is that ?
Absolutely
Genuinely a good roadmap because it gave context around everything
I’m glad it was helpful! I’ll be making more roadmaps for other specializations going forward so stay tuned!
@@Codebagel as a frontend engineer, I'd love to see what you put in frontend roadmap! best of luck.
people should start from C or C++ and then after they can choose lang. according to their liked domain
Sir please can you educate me more based on your experience, i started with C++
@@rex_richies if you know C and C++ it means you know the working of pointers ,stack ,heap . Now choose any domain like web dev , mobile app dev , blockchain dev or embedded system in which you are interested . Java and javascript is the most used language in the market so it will be better to learn any of it and its framework if you want job asap
@@rex_richiesbcuz most (if not all)modern languages are influenced by C and C++. That's why if you'll start with basics, it will be easier to you in the future.
“java: easy to learn“, yeah definitely 💯
Sarcasm??
Yes @@alyjahbarros5175
Lol it’s intimidating as a first language, but it isn’t that bad.
Skill issue
It's only hard for idiots
Worth subscribing.
I'm glad it was recommended to me
Thanks! I’m glad it was recommended to you too!
Learned frontend and was interviewed with the front end mindset.. have been full stack since day one.. fire hose tactic starts to go down smooth after a while lmao
I loved your content man! I learned new perspective, new insights. Thank you, keep it up! ❤😊
Thank you so much this was so informative and helpful, much much better than 99% popular youtubers who only talk about shitty AI and give nothing useful to viewers
Great stuff, both comprehensive and interesting, keep up
looking forward for system design videos, that is beginner friendly and have study case examples
Thank you so much! It was extremely helpful and informative.
You are a good man. Wish you will continue to come up with good content.
Comments like these make it easy to continue! Lots of content coming up!
Good introductory video. Such things are not available on youtube
Video Title: Backend Roadmap
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That lead up made 'cache's make perfect sense!
A great straightforward video. You are the best.🤝
earned yourself a sub buddy, good stuff!
Thanks so much!
My "struggle" with backend after 2 years of working as a backend dev mainly consists of just the sheer number of technologies I have to be familiar with beyond surface level. Headers, migrations, auth, caching, redis, redis clustering, azure, docker, containers, kubernetes, logging, elastic, kibana, grafana, jaeger, Java - maven/gradle, nexus, Linux, "insane" db designs, security, microservice architecture, kafka, holy **** kafka, dealing with bad data, testing, fkin java 6 legacy systems build with ant or smth ffs, postman/curl, Prometheus, Jenkins haha more like Hudson. Sometimes even understanding the hierarchy of your own company, zero documentation beyond detail design with no understanding what the thing you're writing is even supposed to do, very busy seniors that always answer stuff after 8pm, meetings where you have exactly 0 idea what's even being discussed, outdated internal wiki... But I love it honestly because even though I'm lost most of the time, the high you get when you overcome something like this is insane
I think the goal is to become someone useful and not just someone versed in academic programming. Java and golang… Even google doesnt use golang that much. And I remember trying to learn Clean Coders stuff for java. its like a talmud 6000pages long. Id still take something useful like js or python over java and golang.
Great video, the animations are on point and you also explained everything really well. I'm currently trying to improve at making APIs
Thanks so much! It’s good that you’re improving - one day you’ll be able to write APIs in your sleep haha
Good video, I really like how you summarize the info
Thanks so much!
Awesome content ! Also please tell, how to apply for jobs as backend developer.
I’ll make a video on this in the future!
For current job market i think java go and js are best
such an amazing video. Straight to the point and very informative
Thanks
i become god at backend, wait how should i write the db queries again ?!
You don't need fireship, we have fireship at home. fireship at home:
Amazing well put!
I'm a frontend dev and I know all that stuff. I was hoping for something more in depth. Or maybe I'm ready and don't even know it
This video is all over the place. Learn python, django, maria db for database, learn to deploy the python app, call it a day
bro i can tell one thing you're are great that's all.
Thank you,
siva
Good video, great voice & simple explanation
That's really good info 👌🏻
Is it weird that I watched this video while being a back-end engineer, writing code and eating a bagel?
An Advice ╰(*°▽°*)╯
Don't pick Rust as your first language Trust me
Pick Rust when you have done coding at least a year or 2
It's wild how he intentionally left out PHP
“Most backend engineers don’t learn how to work with SQL or databases”. 🙄 I would say learning advanced SQL and database is fundamental for backend engineers.
I agree! Every backend engineer should know SQL and database work!
thanks for this video
Thanks for watching!
I want to become Java developer but before that do you think it would be better to learn First html,css and JS?
According to some jobs offers for Java or backend developers is desirable to know html,css and JS.
Not 100% this is the right path but we will see, but I would appreciate any suggestion on this Path.
Thank you very much
very insightful
Really nice video, could you do one for data/cloud engineering?
This is becoming a backend beginner lol. All info in here is entry level
Java is easy? wtf, said no one ever.
It really is
It’s not hard 🤷🏽♂️. Just learning the common syntax like data types and keywords like in any other language and knowing Object Orientated Programming concepts. It’s not that hard. Just give it time and dedication.
"Most backend engineers do not learn how to work with SQL or databases" 😒, I guess you are right when someone simply identifies as a backend engineer but isn't one.
Why not javascript ?
Start with php... ;)
No, HTML
PHP is valid choice. People are just not so well informed.
No don't learn php is not worse it
Im sorry be the laguages that you should really start with should be either C or Assambly x86 if you got much freetime.
Then C++ and OOP in C++.
Here you've mastered algorithms and OOP time for some DBs and .net with C#.
And finaly ur ready to learn whatever you want.
Very nice explained ❤
I will never learn java, even if I had to learn 10 more languages to avoid it
Came here for some advices as a backend myself, ended up hearing absolutely basic shit 😂😂!! 👍 Great video for beginners though.
PHP left the group
If you want to be a backend engineer, don't be a coder, don't learn "coding principles" based on poor tutorials, be an engineer, study real principled knowledge backed by centuries of science and engineering, be smart. Otherwise, you will be a cheff saying that is doing chemistry. Choose your destinty, or destiny will choose for you.
-- Albert Einstein
The recommendation algorithm, backend!?
Ooh men, that's from Machine Learning Engineers/Data Sciencetists.
That's still something that happens in the backend I believe
engineer, this roadmap will provide you a guide of what to learn, without wasting your time on nonsense.
what about DSA? Shouldn't I learn that ?
The non-sense thing about this video is distracting and annoying background music.😡
Content was good. 😊 👍🏻
I wonder if people are freaking over picking Java as your first language though😆
Any good sources to learn system design and data structure?
Is it worth going full stack in this day and age?
Yes 100%. Every engineer should be full stack somewhat. Backend engineers’ work impacts the frontend, and vice versa. Also gives you more job opportunities, especially at startups where all engineers are required to work on all parts of the stack.
great info
Not even mentionning PHP OMEGALUL
Unfortunately, I already started learning python and I intend to finish learning python before switching another language.
What are you talking about?? That's how you are supposed to do it. It's stupid to try to learn multiple languages at once. Focus on python first then other languages.
@@Ohiostategenerationx I see. Thank you for reminding me that I'm on the right track.
@@aristonsaizoxic1048 I started learning with Python too! There’s nothing wrong with Python at all, it’s one of the most used languages for a reason! I just recommend that after you feel comfortable with Python, you should take a quick look at a language like Java (or C if you’re brave) to understand a few things that Python does automatically for you. You may work with another language in the future so it’s good to know those things.
Keep up the great work, you’ll be an excellent engineer!
@@Codebagel I have misunderstood. Thank you for clarifying 😊.
Just go over pointers, memory concepts in c/c++ after python and you should be good at a high level. But do go over c/c++ if you get the time as it will make transition of languages easy
"Golang" not "go" , right?
great video
Most of this data should be illegal...
Invasion of privacy.
Backend engineer does sound like a euphemism though.
Honestly, I would rather not recommend anyone start with Java if they're doing backend.
Java backend usually means Spring and learning Spring won't teach you as much about the backend as something like Golang where you have to build a lot of stuff yourself and learn how to do things.
thanx for your video.can there be any possible way to work out for youtube backend engineer in real too
Is JAVA modern COBOL ?
Вудиксон святой человечище
im already a backend god, if you know what i mean, if you feel me
No one mentions authentication
is cloud deploy as backend?
This feels similar to fireship
What about kotlin?
I would think python with flask
tf is he talkin about
sharks
he is trying to describe how to correctly butcher a goose, but he is having trouble coming up with it
He's talking about things like 'pythons' so maybe he's talking about how to deal with snakes? No clue tbh, he's just blabbering nonsense, 0/10, left a dislike smh
i need one for data analyst plss
my face when i saw ad 2:31
I just feel you broke up with node 😅
No PHP mentioned, opinion rejected. jkjk
Start with GoLang
I believe Go will be one of the most used languages in the world in a couple years!
pure balloney
I don’t agree with anything here lol. You’ll never get a junior job in Go or Java
will this roadmap get me a lambo tho?
Much more than that🤑🤑
fireship 2.0
Talking about backend and you didn't mention the most popular server side language that powers over 70% of the Web. Keep on disrespecting php
эмекрсон
Ok but try not to copy too much from Fireship's visual identity
Ohhhhhhhh now you guys wanna teach everyone to be a backend God, now that ai is here but when we needed it 10 years ago you guys were hoarding the knowledge like assholes
bruh
fafd
Roadmap to mediocrity.
asfas