Dr Alexis Stephens & Dr Vanita Rattan (board certified dermatologist & Dr (cosmetics formulator) repectively) are absolutely the best youtubers with skin care content especially for People of Color (Indians/ Africans/ Asians/ Latinos etc)
@@JordanJSparks but you won't say African and Nigerian separately would you? Simply south Asian is better and it's high time we should normalise Indian and pak in asian because most people think Asia only has china and Japan. And India Bangladesh are some different thing.
Oh, shit. Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about purchasing it. I'll just stick with my Differin facial SPF until I can find something better that's cruelty free. It's so hard to find SPF that doesn't pill, isn't greasy, & doesn't leave a white cast. The worst facial SPF I ecer used is Neutrogena...It's just white grease. Terrible!
Yea cause he’s sponsored. 🤦♀️ it’s getting really bad because it’s obvious he’s money hungry & doesn’t care about anything he preaches if there’s a sponsorship.
The only reason he trashed cetaphil is because he's secretly sponsored by cerave which is their biggest rival. An undisclosed sponsorship btw. Which I'm pretty sure is illegal. Plenty of evidence over on reddit.
He doesn't trash the brand, he says that he just believes Cerave is better. He even said that Cetaphil is an okay brand if you are okay with a good but very basic formula.
i get all the criticism, but to be fair he does say that "specialist" is the title he has at the company he works for, he doesnt say he is/knows as much as medical professional!
@@aura3337 Really?? Are you illiterate ?You might wanna go look at the title of some of his videos cause they say literally that very thing! What are you talking about?.... Next.. moron
@@tiabacker2899 well that’s why I first checked out his vid.. cause I thought he was an actual specialist .. come to find out the kid is no more one than I am.... it’s misleading
@@user-cd6xp5lk4c thats a good point!! its definitely a way to get views just like a lot of people on youtube tend to do to get people to want to watch their vids. it is misleading, but officially he does go on to say that it is merely his title at work. i get the issue though, if you want professional advice it can be annoying
As a Doctor, I assumed Hyram was a Dermatologist or at least an Aesthetician, and just laughed when I found out that he is in NO WAY a "skincare specialist". He is a skincare sales clerk and a RUclips entertainer. Jordan Sparks brought up very valid issues with Hyram's "advice". I find Hyram laughable.
i always thought “specialist” meant you are a professional with more knowledge in one area... like a dentist who focuses on cosmetics. he has no right using that title 😭😭
People worship him and it almost feels like a cult. I’ve said this for a long time, he’s not certified! I’m not sure how you can call yourself a specialist without any certification. He needs to call himself an enthusiast and stop spreading misinformation. Also, does he ever actually use the products he recommends? I see him recommend products but I never see him actually put the products on his face.
You'd have to watch him personally every night to confirm whether he uses them or not. He doesn't claim to be certified at all. He literally explains himself at the beginning of every video he does. I wouldn't say it's all misinformation since a few dermatologists I have watch, have claimed the same things. And if there ever was a time he was wrong about something, usually he will correct himself if someone brings it up to him.
@@jenniferp.1975 ruclips.net/video/fM7g2jo7zuU/видео.html 7:00 in that video. His OWN SKINCARE fails his own test. The plastics he uses from sugarcane that he claims are so good for the earth actually create more damage with how much carbon is created from turning sugarcane to plastic. He’s a scam artist who preys on kids looking to help the earth.
as someone who has bio degree with minor of chemistry and women of color, he does spread misinformation and recommends products that doesnt work on poc when he claims that he want to recommend products for “everyone”. my friend who has a chem degree and plans on skincare business, she hates hyram cuz he shits on products that she really likes and disagree with the ingredients he shits on. but his cults are very problematic and sensitive when ppl call him out. we really need to not listen to tiktokers who claims to be “specialist” and listen to dermatologist and people who has education on dermatology and science.
Hyram recommends Cerave but we do not see him using them in his routine at all. When he did his routine for Harper's Bazaar I was expecting to see a couple of Cerave products and there were NONE!!!!
@{. 𝔍 }. Yes! Irritating and inflammatory! I personally avoid it. Even 'natural' fragrance such as essential oils can be extremely irritating. Of course there are many different types and will depend on what your skin can personally tolerate as well as the percentage of actual oils in the product etc (in terms of essential oils). For example I cannot tolerate most citrus essential oils and it will immediately cause breakouts and irritation for me personally. Really read those ingredient labels!
I personally loveeee that hyraim doesn’t like fragrance or essential oils bc I have the MOST sensitive dry skin however I find it hypocritical that he pushed the youth to the people cleanser that is full of those things like that cleanser is awful for my sensitive skin
He does explain that he is okay with fragrance in cleansers, because it is a wash-off treatment and is only on your face for max 30 secs, but it's only when fragrance sits on your skin, is what bothers him. Also, Hyram tells us that he has oily skin which is WHY the YTTP cleanser works for him.
Not everyone has sensitive dry skin. The products he recommended have done nothing for me. Ive tried so many. I went to stronger things and exfoliating products and my skin has been glowing as everyone at work has been telling me. I dont listen to hyram but i watch because i like to learn what difference products there are
Lips are the only skin on the body that produces no oil. That’s why you gotta moisturise ‘em 🏴☠️ and they can’t get zits! Ps glycerin is 25x more effective at holding moisture than hyalaronic acid, and unlike the latter does not draw moisture from your actual skin when the air is too dry. It also happens to be very inexpensive..
i always had an odd feeling about how condescending he came off in his videos sometimes, but i thought he was well versed on the topic. the first thing that made my trust with him waver was his undisclosed sponsorships and just sponsorships in general. his fanbase i believe is the worst part, they often “attack” people who go against something hes said or wont use something unless he approves of it (despite him not being a professional.) his fanbase also doesnt really do their own research as a whole
Regarding Robert Welsh: if he knows they're a make-up pro he says so. But also, he's always respectful during the reacts. Even with the anti-baking thing, he says it works but it's just overdone. Like too much powder.
I love Robert Welsh. He gives tips that are so different from most beauty RUclipsrs. They usually just know how to make their own face look good and don't know how to work with other peoples features.
@@visualbeauty3427 I like his channel because he actually talks about what looks good irl compared to makeup that people usually use for pictures and video.
Robert Welsh actually has been a working MUA for years and most of the people he does react to are not. He does a lot more than reaction videos and his reaction videos are never attacking the person, their looks or anything personal, just the techniques and what he would do instead. The difference between Hyram and Robert is that Robert actually is a trained MUA, not just an enthusiast and while Hyram "shades" people or is directly mean about acne or things they can't help Robert focuses only on technique. I feel his videos are more based on education while Hyram is just mean and dramatic most of the time.
My point is that there is no tradeship governming the MUA industry, like say, being a Hairdresser, so for him to call his training professional makeup artist training and for him to not acknowledge someone like Manny Mua as being a professional is a slap in the face. Manny is just as much of a professional as Robert.
At Least Hyram never call himself a professional when critiquing someone skincare. I do find Robert respectful and educative and knows his shit, but I do not think for one second that he should be putting himself on an MUA platform and considering someone like Manny a 'Beauty Guru' it's actually straight up insulting.
Lmfao how are you going to compare the two? One is a makeup artist and one is very knowledgeable about skincare. That’s like comparing basketball players to snowboarders. Apple and oranges
I’m a licensed esthetician myself went to a Aveda school and they don’t even teach you 10% of skincare just how to sell it and I wouldn’t even dare call myself a specialist lol. Great video very informative!
Omg Kayleb! I haven't seen you around in forever! and totally agreed! ALSO, I was going to go to Aveda too! That was my number one choice in highschool lol
@@lacedrain But the whole reason he chose to have a deal with CeraVe in the first place is because he likes their products. I don't think it's shady if he told us when it happened. He genuinely recommended their products before that as well.
@@youllneverbeasamazingasiu9188 CeraVe seems to have more fans than Cetaphil. Neither is cruelty-free. I'm out on this person because I don't like these types of videos.
As a nurse I’m part of a regulatory profession. I have to have a license in order to call my self a nurse. I needed to have the education and pass exams and clinical in order to even qualify to get a license. I’m glad you called him out on being a “specialist “ when he didn’t earn a title.
As a licensed esthetician I dislike it very much when beauty gurus use ´specialist´ in their title of their skincare review videos. You can not create a correct skincare regimen for everyone unless you have met every single one of your subscribers personally, and even then, whatever is said does not come out legitimate if you are not thoroughly educated . Some products Hyram recommended may helped his viewers, sure, but I really have something against the usage of the term ´specialist´ when he is clearly an enthusiast at best. I get that people like watching his videos because they are entertaining in some sense and he seems to be a very likable person. But that doesn´t mean you shouldn´t criticize his legitimacy. A lot of young- no, actually, people of all ages takes his words for granted. It is much cheaper to listen to tips and tricks by enthusiastic beauty gurus than go seek out a professional. I for one have done this too in the past. You have to take what you hear with a grain of salt and find other sources to find out what is true or not.
ghurl he probably knows more than you. all of his facts are legitimate and have been recognized by dermatologist like dr. dray. don’t be jealous because he didn’t get any formal training but still manages to know more than you 💀😭😂
@@Luke-dn4pj no he doesnt you idiot hyram fan. Hyram does not understand processes such as chemical peeling, Iontophoresis,Sonaphoreis, Jet peel/jet injection.Hyram does not know the physiology of the skin structure and how it related to getting a cosmetic procedure. I highly doubt he know what do when someone with skin type 5 and 6 has hyperpigmentation. being recognized by dr.dray doesn't mean anything, you can get his advice just by skimming 5 mintutes on google.
@@Luke-dn4pj credentials absolutely matter, and hyram isn't licensed whatsoever. it is what it is. what's the point in being rude to this person, saying they are jealous & such, when they weren't even being hateful towards hyram? most of us here like hyram and enjoy his content but will give criticism where it's due. he's literally mentioned in almost all his videos that he doesn't claim to know more than estheticians or derms and stresses you actually see them for serious skin concerns.
@@starlight1818 exactly wtf. I don’t see any problem that hyram has that needs criticism. I just hate how people will complain about the smallest things
@@fgostoryteller2168 oh really? he literally duetted a tiktok about those topics. I’m 14 years old and I already know most of that stuff. Iontophoresis is like a process that helps treat sweating by using electricity to deliver drugs. sonophoresis is that sonic vibrating plate used in extractions or helping treatments go in pores. Literally Ion (electrical charge) and sono (sonic vibrating) are in the name. Idk why u think it’s so special. Estheticians go to school for 4-6 months and can work immediately. But You literally have to wait 9 months before you can get a provisional drivers license in my state.
I used to watch his videos regularly until I saw him promoting Curology in an ad and remembered his video where he said Curology doesn’t seem to be anything special 🤦🏻♀️
That's why I like James Welsh way more. I feel like he's a lot more honest with his reviews. Also I've noticed James' skin always looks different in all his videos because even if you use the "best of the best" it's normal to get spots and blemishes. And I like how he always says which products have fragrance and that they were okay for him because it doesn't irritate his skin but it can for others. My sister can handle so much on her skin but for me I have very sensitive skin and I can't handle products that have fragrance at all. When I started getting into skin care I tried so many different cleaners that were recommended by RUclipsrs because I thought I had to use those to have better skin but they would just irritate my skin really bad. It took about 4 years but I just recently started using Cetaphil and it has helped my skin so much. Skin care doesn't always have to be super fancy and expensive. Whatever works for your skin. Also I've seen someone point out that he'll have affiliate links for products he specifically doesn't recommend like makeup wipes. I'm not sure if that's true but if it is that's really messed up. :/
I’ve noticed that about James Welsh and that’s what made his videos stand out to me in the first place. I never feel like I’m being talked down to when watching his videos either. He’s very honest and down to earth and so is his brother Robert. I love both of their channels!
Thank u for making this!! The “skin care specialist” irks me too tbh. I like dr dray on YT as she’s a dermatologist and reviews more affordable items. Always nice to have more perspectives tho and not follow a single person. I think he just needs to continue to be transparent that he isn’t as all knowing as he acts when he judges people’s routines.
Yaaas Dr. Dray is definitely my favorite Dermatologist on RUclips, she gets right to the point and doesn't pander to her audience she just comes with straight facts.
@@JordanJSparks I’ve been following her for years since before Hyram blew up and she has always been very informative! I wish I could make an appointment with her, but I don’t know where she practices, and she probably doesn’t take my insurance. 😭 We’re both in Houston.
@@JordanJSparks 😩 That’s so sad. Here I was daydreaming. That makes sense since she does vlogs all the time. I remember following her years back and on some of her vlogs she would wake up early and say about going to her office where she works, but it makes sense!
@@izziestevens5835 will all due respect to Dr Dray. Other full time dermatologists kind of scoff at these social media derms. Rather than focusing on helping patients or doing relevant research, all they do is self promotion. If you can't get admiration from your peers because of your work, you get it from the public who doesn't know any better.
He’s wearing makeup & using a filter in the videos promoting his own skincare line. It’s incredibly dishonest Edit - Robert Welsh is so respectful & full of praise for almost every reaction he does. He’s worked in editorial, fashion week, with celebrity clients etc…that makes him a professional. It is different but not better than being a makeup influencer, as he always states. I’m confused why you have a problem with him
Hey! I don't have a problem with Robert per se, it just bothered me when he classified other Makeup Artists as 'Beauty Guru's'. It felt like he was placing them below him.
@@JordanJSparks I see your point but I see it more as, they work AS makeup artists online on YT p much exclusively and actually enjoy the title beauty guru. He himself has said he still works as a professional make up artist in his life offline and I feel like taking on a moniker like “beauty guru” isn’t how he wants to present himself to clients is all. He understands he’s in the same category as influencer, I think it’s just that particular title he has no interest in sharing for himself personally bc he doesn’t want it which, that’s his choice? His brother is often doing the same where he’s trying to make the verbal difference of skincare “specialist” and skincare enthusiast bc like you said a specialist means nothing if you have no formal education to back it up. 🤷🏼♀️
@@maranduhjean At the end of the day though it is entirely disrespectful to come into somebody’s space and put yourself in a league all of your own. all the other top beauty gurus started out as make up artists and then moved to RUclips just like he has.
@@maranduhjean and to me it is just elitism to come into the beauty gurus space and profit off of the culture and business model that has been put in place by the creators that came before you, and at the same time make it obvious you look down on the term ‘beauty guru’ because it is somehow a bad reflection of you for your business. If you don’t want to be considered a beauty guru get off RUclips and stop positioning yourself at the forefront of that space. A beauty guru is the title that has been created exclusively for these make up artists who work online and created this culture and this space. It’s the same as walking into Anna Wintour’s office at Vogue and trying to position yourself ahead of her as a leader in an industry she pioneered.
@@JordanJSparks I mean I get it. I wasn’t entirely disagreeing w you. I could just also see it from another perspective. I’m also not aware of the video in question where he was refusing to call himself a guru so I don’t even know the full context. There are a handful of major influencers that began their careers solely on YT and worked hard for their career and following and moved out into the industry from garnering online recognition which is just as credible as doing it the other way around and taking industry knowledge and bringing it into the online space. I do 100% see where it can come off as elitist and rude tho if you do it in a way where you snub your nose at the other half as if your way was better. It would be just rude as if someone w a following like NikkiTutorials were to turn up her nose and say she deserved everything more bc she started at like 14 making videos in her bedroom after school and “look where I am now”. Respect is key.
about the filter: he says in a few videos that he uses a beauty filter because the camera makes his face suuuper red. you can also see that filter for example in the video he did with James Welsh, when he moves or laughs and puts his hand in front of his face, the filter disappears and you can definetly see his forehead being tomato red. is it shady for a skincare youtuber to use a filter? yes, it is and im not trying to defend him, just putting this info out here🤗 (also, please correct me if i made any gramatical mistakes, English is not my first language and im still learning it. thanks💕)
I was not sure if he used a filter but I honestly assume most youtubers do. I wish skincare youtubers wouldn't do that. Also, your English is phenomenal! If you don't mind me asking, what is your first language?
The camera doesn’t make his face super red… his over use of active products and lack of actual knowledge/training on the histology and how ingredients react with skin does…
If it wasn’t for the pandemic and literally everyone wanted a skin glow up he wouldn’t have grown this big. Same with Chloe Ting her channel blew up in quarantine.
The main thing I have noticed now that skincare influencers are a thing, is that consumers forget it really doesnt help to use thirty products. These people say vitamin c, niacinamidr, azelaic acid, hyaluronic acid and retinols are GREAT. HOWEVER they are great for some and you shouldnt use it all in the same routine. So many people with skin problems would see improvement if they just simplified their routine so their own skin can heal... There are only a few youtubers, like dr dray, who explain it correctly. Just use a simple cleanser, a moisturizer and a sunscreen in the morning, then at night a micelar water or oil cleanser, a cleaner, a moisturizer and after like ten minuted apply a THIN layer of differin/adapalene (or whatever active you enjoy) . The simpler, the better your skin will react. But yeah, that's not profitable.
I know....they don't ever really talk about how you should be using some things for a couple days, use another for 1 bc of how strong it is...I feel like it's mostly google searches being reiterated with personality.
Hyram actually taught me some good skincare tips. I would have never found out about Cerave or Cetaphil if not for him. I didn’t even know about putting sunscreen on your face daily to prevent dark spots, that’s how little I paid attention to skincare before I started watching him. But you are right, he is not a dermatologist or an esthetician. I just think of him as a knowledgeable skincare enthusiast who I would trust for advice on what products to get for starting out, not a go-to for any type of skin disorders/issues.
Hyram just rubs me the wrong way, and always has. He doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about a lot of the time, and I actually find him to be fairly problematic. So many of his opinions on products (or whole brands even) are based solely on ingredients lists, and he essentially "reviews" products without ever having used them! And for whatever reason, so many of his followers just accept his word as law. He made a video about Clinique, basically saying that it's all garbage that no one should use, and people in the comments were talking about throwing out BRAND NEW bottles of product that they had been using FOR YEARS simply because they weren't "Hyram Approved." It's ridiculous
I don't have an issue with Robert Welsh though. He has addressed the whole "Pro MUA reacts" thing in several videos. It's just the name of the series, and started with reacting to TikTok videos and makeup "hacks," and he only really started reacting to influencers and other makeup artists after people started requesting it. He's also made it very clear that his goal is to point out how some techniques look great on camera, while others look good in real life, because many people don't necessarily know the difference and can't figure out why they can't get their makeup to look good.
@@eva_pe I may have exaggerated a bit, but he made it pretty clear that he doesn't approve of the brand's products. I'm fairly certain there was only one product that he approved of, and he also said something about Clinique "still using fragrance," which just goes to show how much he knows about the brand, because Clinique has always been fragrance-free. Yes, they may have some out-dated formulations, but all of their products are fragrance-free and EXTENSIVELY allergy tested. They test each formula on hundreds of people for weeks, and if anyone has a single reaction, they start over and reformulate. I clearly wasn't the only one who got the same message from his video. Just read the comments. It's ridiculous.
Could it be that you remember him being overly harsh because you mentioned he rubs you the wrong way therefore making you more prone to overscrutinizing him? Like I said, I watched that video too, and what I got from it was that he generally approved of the brand, he liked in fact several products including the moisturizers, but he said he wished they spiced up their game a bit and used more exciting ingredients, instead of the same old stuff that's outdated. But I can understand how when one doesn't like someone that much one tends to have a bit different perception of what's being said. I tend to react negatively to people that "rub me the wrong way" too... there are a few famous people in that category for me as well xD I get annoyed by a lot of what they say, just because they say it. So I can relate to some level.
@@eva_pe that's absolutely not the case. It was one of the first videos of his that I watched, before I had even formed an opinion on him. Regardless, if you actually watch the video, he is very against the first two steps of their 3-step routine, and essentially says that apart from a few products, he doesn't recommend the brand and that it's not worth the price. It's not actually very expensive, especially compared to some of the things he recommends, and its partly priced where it is because of the extensive testing they do. He also says that you can find cheaper alternatives of their products at the drugstore, and I honestly haven't found hardly any drugstore dupes of their products. Also, just read the comments and you will clearly see that I'm not the only person who got the vibe that he doesn't approve of Clinique....
@@elizabethm4705 yes cause I'm the only one that matters lol. Seriously though Cetaphil sucks I don't care what you say. I have tons of friends and family who all say the same thing. Not just a couple people alot of people. And there are alot of people online who have negative experiences with the brand. I see more negatives on Cetaphil than any other brand honestly.
Thank you!! I've "graduated" from Hyram I think. I feel now when I will watch them occasionally, they bother me at times but I could not put my finger on it; you did! Thank you.
i love your ability to criticise something but still be respectful and share positive opinions too. shows that you’re not at all biased. you made some great points! very educational too.
Not to mention that non sense about chemical sunscreens being bad for coral reefs, which other influencers who are actual chemists and skincare formulators have already talked about about and proved not to be true. He says there's some pseudoscience in the skincare world but he keeps perpetuating it. He was one of the first "skinfluencers" I followed when I first got interested in skincare and, because of that pseudoscience of his, I panicked about chemical uv filters and actually didn't wear any sunscreen because I couldn't find any affordable drugstore mineral sunscreen I liked. Now I finally found my favorite sunscreen and it happens to be a chemical one. His audience can be very impressionable and he shouldn't spread fear like this about any ingredient.
Seconded; feels like he just did a 5minutes google and read off info from unscientific websites. (It is like the misinformation of 'vaccine causes autism' all over again). It has been proven again and again that there is no solid evidence that chemical sunscreen is dangerous for coral reef.
Well Hawaii has literally banned the use of certain sunscreens due to their chemical ingredients so. There are chemical sunscreens that do not affect coral out there.
I remember hearing someone say that he took the fun out of skincare and I 100% agree. I love having fragrance in some products because it makes it a better experience for me and it doesn’t irritate my skin personally but when watching his videos I started to feel guilty about that. Skincare should be fun not guilt inducing
I feel like he tries to find problems in formulations to stay relevant, picking apart non-existant errors for views, to keep content, because he truly isn't a skincare expert, and therefore has no professional grounds to fall back on. Because he needs to find a place for himself in the industry, a way to make his opinions relevant, just like many other skincare youtubers. By leveraging consistent fear-mongering, by harnessing his followers fears he can create an influence, where there shouldn't have been one in the first place. I see him and many other big influencers review things and I think ... "fuck you really have noooo idea what you are on about, at all". He alleges he is all about ethics and appears to have a stream of constant ethical undertones to move his audience, so that they can possibly be distracted from the fact that him doing what he does on RUclips and cancelling brands is inherently unethical? I dunno, am I going too deep? Maybe.
Yup. I worked as a formulation chemist and I stopped watching the second I realized he has no knowledge in chemistry or biochemistry. Like I’m sorry but some ingredients ARE needed, and unless you want your product to cost triple or double... SOME ingredients will make the list because they’re necessary to emulsify the product or give it a viable shell life. Everyone is too quick to judge a product by the list and yes there’s components that matter but no one understands these chemicals can also be expensive af or I hear them complain about price etx
These unfounded opinions are what's driving change towards the wellness trends which (some of them are okay and in fact, highly necessary for our way of living) but most of it is shit, and products are literally becoming worse because of these false pretences. Formulations that had the potential to be greater are now just okay.
@@alarawierzbinski8884 yup. I wish they talked about green washing. As I said, as someone in the field, all these green products are bs when you consider the EXTRA amount it takes to ship the ingredients, transport them, the packaging, etc. Might as well just buy something else that is already easily produced etc. But people listen to ‘gurus’ who don’t think about the small details that matter
I have highly highly sensitive skin and I can use items with fragrance if it's one of the last 5 ingredients. And yeah, I use Cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer and they were recommended for pregnancy too.
me too! Super sensitive skin and I’ve never had a problem. I know other people can, but to write off entire product lines that are great for 99% of us doesn’t make any sense
@@JordanJSparks Agreed. Everyone's skin is different, if something I get irritates my skin, but I can tell it's a good product, I give it to a friend or one of my sisters. But to totally write a product off because it isn't for you, it's ridiculous. Thanks for always explaining your opinions in a thoughtful manner. 🤗👏💖😘 I'm allergic to wool, so I can't use skincare that has lanolin, but for whatever reason, lanolate is totally fine.🤷♀️ That doesn't mean I'm going to go tell others not to use something because it has lanolin. I noticed Christi Lukasiak got the same chemical burn rashes from Proactiv that I did, but that doesn't mean the product doesn't work for others. I knew several people that used it successfully before I tried it. Warning others is one thing, swearing it off altogether is another.
The problem is that you can become sensitized to fragrance, or even worse develop co-sensitization, at any time. Hyram is actually less against fragrance than derms like Dr Dray.
@@JordanJSparks but how do you know it’s great for 99% of the population?? The same goes the other way around. Just because you like a product doesn’t mean that product is great. It’s all very relative. I usually don’t agree with everything hyram says, but he is just stating his personal opinion which he has the right to do so. Granted, he has a large platform and can influence many people, sometimes possibly in the wrong way, but that’s part of the territory of having any large platform and any personal opinions. Personally, I don’t like Cetaphil at all. I have oily and sensitive skin and this brand in general is super drying to my skin. I’m pretty sure many experienced the same. So to say 99% of people would like these products is ALSO sort of irresponsible because is highly likely to not be true. It’s just simply an opinion of your own experience. But that’s the thing, why is it ok for you to have your opinion but not for Hyram? It’s just an odd point of view. The thing for me in here is, we are talking about opinions in general and not facts. Because if we get nit gritty, for example, fragrance is not a killer on a product that washes off, but it will be a killer with frequent and continuos use because it could potentially develop sensitivity regardless if it’s just a wash off product or not cause the key also relays on frequency. And that is just one example on how not everyone has the total truth in their hands to really point the fingers at others. Sometimes not even professionals or doctors are right because they can also “form” their own personal beliefs and opinions. And anyone has the right to express their opinion on a small or large platform and not be crucified for it (unless is a very terrible opinion like for example promoting hate speech, racism, etc). All I’m saying is, you have the right to talk about your opinion about Hyram, but that doesn’t mean it can come across as partially unfounded and even as bitter (or jealous). Just saying. You can also appear in the wrong way by pointing out the wrong on others even if by any stretch you were to be right 🤷🏻♀️
@@roselynmvm To answer simply because I have never made anything black-and-white. I always say what works for me might not work for you and vice versa. I would also never scare away people from using a product because of that reason. try it out see if it works for you. make your own decisions. trust your own brain trust your own skin. never once did I say Hyram shouldn’t have his own opinion, He shouldn’t blur the line between opinion in fact when he is talking opinion.
I’m subscribed to James Welsh. And that’s how i found hyram’s videos. It was back when he’s still got less than a million subs and way less than James Welsh’s. His videos were okay then. But I still don’t get why now he’s got more subs than james and other youtubers with better content.
Yeah, I haven't been bothered to watch Hyrams videos lately.. he changed in some unsettling way when he got famous. I do watch every video James makes though.
James is no better than Hyram. In several of James video he contradicts himself. In addition, he said in multiple video that he would not review Cerave because of the packaging as it was “boring” so if someone is going off of shiny packaging and not what’s in the product then that person is not for me. I usually watch board certified dermatologist on RUclips rather than watch people who are “specialist” and can’t review something if the packaging isn’t pretty. I trust doctors with my medical health, why not trust experts such as dermatologist with my skin?
What i like about James is he's transparent that he's just a consumer reviewing products. i watch him because he's transparent. He updates if he suddenly likes a new product he said he'd never use again. At least he's not claiming to be a "specialist" of sorts. Plus, i'm all for the entertainment part of it, especially with his channel with Robert. 😆
@@Zenmasterzzz The same Cerave formulas we have in the US weren’t even available in the US until recently. James is someone who likes his skincare routine to be fun, which is why he likes cute packaging combined with a product that actually works. Why would he review something that is a) a completely different formulation from the US version, which won’t even benefit a large % of his audience, and c) doesn’t interest him. He mostly uses Korean products anyways. He doesn’t tell people not to use Cerave, and he has used Cerave in the past, he’s just not going to review it on his channel.
@Sciediu kinda old comment but I just wanted to say hey, props to *you* too dude.. I dropped/flunked out of orgo 1 twice before just giving up and switching my major 😭 Bane of my existence, no idea why it was even required for dietetics..now seeing those damn carbon compounds almost gives me PTSD I swear
well at least he's actually helping thousands of people. and he's more user friendly for people starting from ground zero. what have you done for anyone mr science?
Omg thank you for doing this video, clearly those who didn't like it are teens who have no clue how manipulative he really is... The fact that he doesn't even try products and reviews them.. Is disgusting!! This Truly shows how RUclips is biased and plays unfair games with certain content creators... I have seen him steal from so many smaller skincare content creators and don't even mention where he got the info from.. Glow by Ramon, Raw Tin Skin, Matt Randon and Shundara Castion are skincare content creators I know for a fact he has regurgitated there information and never credited them.. Some have alluded to him stealing from Dr Dray as well... There are so many more but they don't care... I know a few have said some things subliminally but that's about it. It's clear he uses a filter!! One minute he is a dark orange color with smooth skin and the next minute he is pale with a 5 o'clock shadow.... Karma will get him eventually for manipulating people for money and fame... The only reason he gets away with it is because he isn't problematic.... Thank you for calling out the BS!!!
I’ve also always thought that he was WAY to overdramatic about Certain things. For example FRAGRANCE! I am not even sensitive to fragrance yet I always feel guilty when I use products that I love. Not everything is a life or death situation..... especially not two drops of essential oils or something. I don’t feel like it’s right to put down a company that puts one drop of fragrance especially when it’s supposed to hide other things that smell bad in the item... what else where they supposed to do!
Its for people who are sensitive to fragrance. A lot of people are. Hyram always says if it works for you keep using it. Some people just don't realize fragrance is causing a lot of problems with they're skin I didn't until I started watching him. When I started removing fragrance from my routine, I noticed a dramatic decrease in flare ups on my face. Generally fragrance just causes more problems in people skin when its unnecessary in most products. But If you enjoy it keep using it! Some people skins are just a lot more tolerant or can handle more varieties of ingredients. 😄
@@jenh3486 I do understand your point. I didn’t realize that so many people were so sensitive... But I still think that he can get his point across without being so dramatic!
@@jenh3486 that’s all understandable but then rate the products fragrance aside and then warn people that it does have a fragrance so it’s not best for sensitive skin. Does the product itself work as intended? Is the formula good? How does it feel? But putting down the whole product because of a fragrance is what throws people off cuz he he’ll give it a 5 or 7 because of the fragrance even if the product was amazingly good.
@@fg1434 The issue is he doesnt even try the product. He reads the ingredient list and has that as the end all be all. Thats not how it works. You cant tell how something will preform off of the ingredients list because we dont even know the percentages. The % of fragrance in a product could be such a small amount that its negligible but how would he know? He didnt even try it. For example yes alcohol is drying, but in a small dosage it can help other ingredients better penetrate into the skin. In larger doses it works as a preservative and when combined with the right ingredients can be very hydrating
I’ve definitely learned a lot of great intro information from Hyram. He encouraged me to look at the ingredients and think about what they could do for me. However, once I found Dr Shereene Idriss, Dr Dray, Cassandra Bankson and other skin care professionals it helped me better understand the info they provided me. I feel like i got to a point where I grew out of Hyram. I learned what I needed to. Now, I go to him for fun reactions videos but not concrete info/recs.
Just a disclaimer: This video was in NO WAY meant as Hate towards Hyram nor do I think you should stop supporting him or watching his content. This video was meant as a Critical Analysis of someone with a large Public Platform. I still support Hyram, I think he has a great foundational knowledge of the function of the Epidermis and above average insight into the formulation of products in the Skin Care and Cosmetics industry. Just like every Human, Hyram is not perfect and I am not holding him to a standard of perfection. I think Hyram has had a profound impact helping people get initiated into skincare and helping people build their own interest in Skin Care so they can dive into a more in depth education if they so choose. I personally will still watch Hyram if he has content that is of interest to me and I still support him as a great source of Skin Care content for you too! I apologize as I have emotional disregulation due to my ADHD and Anxiety that generally makes me appear super aggressive and angry when I am just passionate about something. I promise I have no hard feelings towards Hyram and I apologize that my tone was very harsh and that I did not drive it home that I still think he is a great creator and I appreciate his passion. Again, this video was just meant a critical analysis as we all have room for growth and constructive criticism, especially when we have an impact on a public platform. Please do not send any hate to Hyram or any other creators mentioned in this video, and STAY SPARKLY! xoxo - Jordan
You are right. I also dislike how he doesnt specify PH in regards to layering products. And hey i do love me some tatcha ( my skin likes a few products and i listen to my skin ). He contradicts himself too much and the skin care specialist = me googling ingredients and saying the same. Im not sure of he uses a filter but it looks like he could be. Also.... Fragrance is used for MANY products so they cannot be copied. In regards to robert i understand your point but he is so kind in his reaction videos. I think he says that he's a pro mua because he's not as big as those influencers in terms of youtube, but has been in the industry for over a decade. His thing is that instagram makeup is not always flattering and is too much product. After he reacted to manny mua i noticed Manny including his tips in his makeup application. I have a high respect for robert...he shares his opinion with the disclaimer that one can do whatever they want with it and will reiterate that he wont talk down on a person for their looks or whatever drama. Also the way he suggests other methods in those reactions are done very respectfully. I dont think robert puts himself on a pedestal, i truly think he wants to help others and he truly does give excellent advice. For example why certain brushes can make something look patchy. I think he's rather humble and very kind...unlike what we somewhat see from hyram.
I can totally understand your points.. but I really appreciate Robert's approach with his criticisms. Like this video, he points things out respectfully. Robert and James are probably my favorite for each category (skin care and makeup).
You are so wrong about Hyram. He's not anything you say. He's like a friend who cares about skin and gives you a lot of awesome advice. His advice is for people with super sensitive skin...he's a skin nerd as well...and you're over exaggerating the ingredients list thing, he just talks about marketing schemes with ingridient list. You need to stop hating on the poor man's dermatologist.
You're the only one I've seen talk about him, and probably one of the only ones that could be respectful while talking about Hyram! Congrats to you, and you need more subscribers at this point lol
Thank you! I was worried about posting this video for the longest time, I actually filmed it over a month ago but I like Hyram and I know the RUclips community sees him as a saint that can do no wrong soo I was afraid to post this and share my opinion.
@@JordanJSparks I was actually considering watching him for the first time today! So it was honestly perfect timing. And I feel like with all the evidence you put out there it would be kinda hard to see him as a complete saint.
I think a lot of people were introduced to skincare through Hyram which is great because we should all take care of our skin but he does a lot of fear-mongering which has made me turn to the DERMATOLOGISTS on RUclips like dr dray, dr daniel sugai, etc. Instead of the pricey recommendations I now get more affordable products that fit the budget because honestly, I’m not someone who can spend $50 on a tiny bottle of serum. I don’t think most people can.
I really appreciate you doing this i hope this wakes up more people to all the fear mongering and misinformation about 'specialist' on YT. I used to watch hyram for the fun not now but i watch only certified doctors dermatologist because they explain everything with scientific approach.
I was right there with you until your Robert Welsh rant. He acknowledges the experience of MUAs. He goes out of his way to say that his “critiques” are what he would do, but that doesn’t make the person he’s reacting to wrong. He also points out to viewers the difference between techniques for film vs real life. Lighting, time, heat, etc. all effect makeup. That’s fact. But he still frames everything as his OPINION. That being said, I still appreciate the rest of the video.
I agree that Hyram should not be using the title of skincare specialist, but I do not agree with what you said about Robert Welsh. He has never ever been disrespectful to any people that he has reacted to, he only gives his opinions, one artist to the other, and he has every right to call himself a professional makeup artist because he is one, makeup is a form of art and yes anyone can be good at it with years of practice, and just like how people can have opinions about any form of art, he has his opinions and techniques, and I feel his goal is only to share those techniques with people so that they can learn from it if they want to.
I know Robert has never been disrespectful, I just don't understand why is a Professional Makeup Artist but someone like Manny Mua is a 'Beauty Guru'. They are both Professional Makeup Artists.
also as someone who has the most sensitive dry skin ever my dermatologist had me use cetaphil for about 6 months before I was able to use cerave that’s how sensitive my skin was. It’s weird how much he trashed cetaphil compared to cerave when it’s just about how each individual persons skin is. Now I use the green cerave and I love it! I’m able to use tlc and the moisturizer from DE and I’m super happy with it but if I didn’t go through that healing process of super gentle cleanser and super simple thick moisturizer first I would have never healed my dryness
I think a big misconception is that people watch Hyram for his skincare knowledge - qualified or otherwise. RUclips is ultimately an entertainment platform, and Hyram is a youtuber, thus he is an entertainer, I would not and do not see him as a reliable source of skincare-related knowledge. That being said, I would still go to him for any skin-related concerns I had, simply because I can see his passion and eagerness for skincare; hell, the very fact he is merely a hobbyist makes me admire him all the more. I accept that he may contradict himself sometimes, or give bad advice, but his success on RUclips isn't down to his knowledge, it's because he's a genuinely likeable and entertaining guy. His most popular videos are reactions where he pulls funny faces and shudders... So I agree with you, he isn't the best source for skincare, but by god is he an entertaining guy who makes wanting to learn about skin a fun experience
I'm so glad someone else finally said something about him using a beauty filter because I think he definitely does for the same reasons you do. There's some videos where its so bad that it starts to smooth his hairline out which makes it really noticable to me. I called him out in a comment on one of his videos and he pinned my comment and responded claiming that he has never used a beauty filter before and that his skin looked like that solely because of his lighting which I find hard to believe.
idk i like robert welsh sooo i don’t agree with that. influencers only know makeup that’s good on them. some exceptions obviously, but they never change their makeup style. and tbh manny mua sucks! he’s done the same damn look for 6 years. they do things to their makeup that aren’t good, because it’s not about their skill it’s about how well they can sell a product. robert is wayyyyyyy more informative and clear about when something is an ad. manny mua has an ad or sponsorship in every video to the point idk what he actually likes an uses.
At the end of the day the man is rich and successful. Because of him alot of Genz are now more interested in skincare and alot are now acne free.Thats just youtube in general. People are allowed to give out opinions and advices (including you).At least he references people to well-known dermatologists .His channel is more as a beginner step to skincare .For the big guns follow Dr.Dre.
My skin had been destroyed by using a wrong product before, encountering hyram channel is the reason why my skin is getting better and healed in the first place, I'm really thanksful for this. I think that hyram channel is for someone who's just new or have zero knowledge about skincare to begin with, or someone like me who isn't too 'blessed' to be able to understand the chemistry behind the formulation and ingredients, hyram's way of the 'fear mongoring technique' is a simple and straightforward way for people like me to get into a store and choose the best and 'safe' products at least, where he mentioned what ingredients we should avoid without getting too deep and complicated about the science behind it 😆 However, if i wanna learn more about something or a professional opinion about skincare ingredients, i will always compare and contrast the opinions from multiple sources, especially from dr dray channel, i always bear in mind that hyram's opinion is not the professional one, he also did mention about this in his videos always. 😊 These are just my humble opinions btw...
The perfume guilt made me feel so bad !! I don’t use perfume usually i always use good products but I’m at the point that if it’s in the last ingredients I don’t care ! I bought a body wash/cream with essential oil and I’m loving it , i also always prefer European especially french dermatologist approved skin/body care , it’s always simple , affordable and effective! I love skin care but i feel like we literally started to obsess over skin and rules it’s tiring , my brother + mom + bf just want a simple cheap routine and people make it so complicated when it’s 5 products is enough
I really appreciated this video. You’re not attacking him as a person, you’re just bringing to the surface that he is not a specialist, but soo many of his subscribers take his opinion as gospel. I do like him and he seems sweet, but I stopped watching his videos especially his reaction videos because he would always have the same commentary, “this cleanser has no fragrance ok that’s great” idk all the commentary became repetitive and just his signature responses.
Thank you for pointing out so many things about Hyram.There was something about him that irked me and especially the way he introduced his brand. It gave me greenwashing and white savior vibes,so I wrote him off completely. When it comes to skincare,I listen to Dr.Dray,Dr.Shah and VERY important thing:I watch how my skin behaves when I introduce it to a new product.And one thing I never bend on is reapplying SPF 50 every 2 hours.
I started to really take note on the things he was saying when he said the Cetaphil gentle cleanser wasn’t a good cleanser. My dermatologist recommended that when I went on accutane! I’ve loved it ever since then and still continue to use it although I’m no longer on the medication. Loved your thorough explanation on the things you do not like about Hyram and why.
Thanks for sharing!! I used to take his advice very closely but then as I became more educated I realized our opinions weren't really all that aligned.
all hyram literally said is that cetaphil is basic and doesn’t have any innovation to it. doesn’t mean it’s bad, it just means that its better for people with sensitive skin - as he noted. he just wants us to have the best stuff. i mean if you like it then go ahead. I actually found that cetaphil really dried out my skin, which goes to show how different out skin is.
@@JordanJSparks so that we force companies to do better and develop initiative to make innovations. he never said not to buy the cetaphil cleanser, in fact he said he really likes it.
I have the feeling that things hyram said are used out of context. For example fragrance: he always says that he, personally, doesn’t like fragrance but that it doesn’t bother him in a wash off treatment. Moreover he says if it’s not working for his skin it can still work for others. He usually dislikes fragrance because there is no other need for it to be in the product than the smell. The Cetaphil thing he said is about being a good and simple product but if you’re looking for more/other ingredients there are other options. Not knowing the science behind it isn’t actually bad if you’re researching the outcome of the use. You still know what it does and how it works even if you don’t know every tiny bit. For example: salicylic acid -> unclogges pores, but not exactly how every acid works. Overall, an interesting video. I think it is important to get another perspective on skincare, which you offered.
I think I was pretty fair and only commented on things he has brought up multiple times while I have been watching him. But Quick Question, Why does everyone say he says this about Cetaphil ; ' Cetaphil thing he said is about being a good and simple product but if you’re looking for more/other ingredients there are other options. ' He has said on numerous occasions on numerous platforms that Cetaphil is stripping . I can time stamp tiktok AND youtube videos for you if it's that important. I just find it odd because I hear him say this SO often . Essentially Anytime Cetaphil is brought up actually. Not understanding the science behind a product is fine for when you are trying it, I agree. You don't need to understand everything you put on your face. it's NOT fine when you base your fear mongering advice that you make a career off of from random assumptions or anecdotal experience. It's his responsbility to understand the science behind something or DON'T SPEAK ON IT like you do understand in my opinion. Anyways thank you for watching the video and for critical thinking and using your own brain instead of taking anything I said as gospel!
@@JordanJSparks Thank you for acknowledging my statement. I have to agree that he said that Cetaphil is stripping. I searched on my own for those statements.
I think it’s important to know the science when people start nit picking every bit of a formulation. Like emulsifiers, stabilizers, preservatives etc. They’re not there to bother you, they’re needed and some of the ones used and considered ‘horrible’ it’s like ok.. do you want to pay double? Because you Can of you want another emulsifier but he doesn’t know what etc because he isn’t a chemist/biochemist
I agree with everything you said outside of your commentary on Robert Welsh. He typically reacts to youtube beauty gurus and while alot of them like nikkietutorials and manny mua for example are great - they are not professional licensed make up artists and they most likely would not know how to do makeup professionally on various clients. He never disrespects them or tries to insinuate that they are wrong in any way. Many of their techniques only work on youtube studio settings like under the heavy lighting etc. Robert is a professional as it is his actual job to do actual makeup on various clients in sunlight / office lighting etc. otherwise I agree with you.
I understand your point of view 100% but That's actually where my problem with it is actually, there is no such thing a professional licensed makeup artist. Makeup is a Art form you can learn by yourself or by going to school,etc.. It is not a governed trade like Hairdressing. you don't need any school or specific training to be a professional makeup artist. There are schools you can go to, but as stated, it is not a governed trade . There is no difference between Robert and Manny. The people he refers to as 'Beauty Guru's' do client work for the highest caliber A- List celebrities on their channels all the time. Nikkie is one of THEEEE most talented makeup artists on the planet. Her eye for detail is *chefs kiss * in my opinion. Regardless of what kind of makeup artist he considers himself or any of them to be, they are all makeup artists. It's the same as A- List stars saying Social media stars are 'not celebrities'. If they have a bigger following than Zac Efron or Kim Kardashian, you can bet they are a celebrity lol. Celebrity by definition is someone who is well known. Kim K is not an actress either so why would Kim K be a celeb but not Charli or Addison Rae for example? Whether someone respects your work is irrellevant.
I’m a professional makeup artist of ten years, in Los Angeles for film, events, etc. And this is false. “Licensed” makeup artists aren’t really a thing. Most of the professionals in my industry, actually every one I know, learned from freelance or possibly a trade school and took a course. It is not something with tests and qualifications. The comment from Jordan replying to this is 100% correct. There’s no difference between NikkieTutorials and Robert Welsh other than him possibly specializing in let’s say wedding makeup rather than Nikkie doing heavier event makeup. The only differences between a professional makeup artist and someone who’s hobby is makeup is 1) can they do makeup on others, not just themselves. And a wide diverse range of clients. And 2) do they follow sanitization protocols for safety. That’s about it. And obviously, practice and experience will determine your skill level.
Hyram might not be a specialist but we cannot deny that this skin care trend that's happening now he responsible for a big part in that, he introduced safe, good information to young ppl to start taking care of their skin and that's a credit that he deserves
I hear where you’re coming from, but as someone with sensitive skin I’ve always appreciated his carefulness when it comes to ingredients. His point is to air on the side of caution because they CAN be irritating. Essential oils are extremely harmful to my skin. But just because someones skin doesn’t immediately react like me doesn’t mean it’s good or beneficial for their skin either. I appreciate your opinion though and a debate about skincare philosophy only strengthens the community so it’s all love. 💖
Hyram's videos have helped me soooo much with my acne, so I'm forever grateful for that. My skin is really prone to fungal acne, so I used to be so scared of products with certain ingredients that can apparently trigger it even if they were really low down the list and that really limited the products I could buy. Lockdown forced me to get a moisturiser with some of those ingredients in as it was the only one I could find, but it hasn't caused me any breakouts and it's now one of my favourite moisturisers. I guess everyone's skin is different, and products that don't work for some work well for others. I dont think people should stop buying products just because someone else doesnt like them, but anyway I still love Hyram's videos :) sorry for this really long comment😂 P.s. I laughed so hard at 6.25
I love that! I'm glad you are seeing great results! I totally agree, I still watch most of his videos and I have learned about a lot of great products that I wouldn't have otherwise looked into! Love and respect him too.
Fungal acne aka Pityrosporum Folliculitis is a rash not acne. You can get a topical anti fungal from your doctor/dermatologist or you can just wash your face with Head and shoulders shampoo. Also if it wasn’t itchy it wasn’t fungal acne and you should see a doctor. I’m only mentioning this because I’ve seen many of Hyram viewers misdiagnose themselves with fungal acne.
@@cannsmith Thanks for replying, and yeah I have seen many people diagnose themselves with it also but I did go to a dermatologist to confirm. Unluckily for me I had acne and fungal 'acne' and Hyram's tips have really helped me, but I wouldn't get advice solely from him. :)
yeah I have no proof he uses a filter, he already has super nice skin, but if you watch his videos compared to like collabs he does on other peoples channels where they edit the videos, his face always looks different in his videos.
@@romy3582 At his collab with James, there are instances that you can that his skin turned red-ish when he facepalms. Those are signs of filters being applied, because the hands block the face and the facial recognition cant work.
I have just loved Hyram for a few years now, but have started to become confused. I agree that many oldie but goodies still have great efficacy. I use a 'scary' old fashioned Ponds product. I love it so much and I will not be talked off it. I really appreciate this info.
Hyram is one of many skincare opinions I watch. Like effective research I watch many skincare enthusiasts and professionals talk about a specific topic, and gather my own thoughts from the multiple perspectives.
I do the same, some he suggested that i like and some other products others have or he doesn’t use, To me People are adults and need to not be zombies and think for themselves and for teens, I didn’t see anything harmful he says and as a parent a pay attention to what my kid is spending money on…… My money lol
Honestly you don't need to have a clear porcelain skin to talk about skincare (if that is what you meant with the filter thing). My dermatologist has a lot of acne scars but he knows what he is doing
Preach it. I have hormonal acne and no matter what i do i still breakout. I have done everything my dermatologist has recommended but this is the price u pay when u have PCOS. But even despite that i know more about skincare than some people i know with crystal clear skin 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
@@californiadoll6273 You didn't get the point of the comment. What I am trying to say is that you don't have to have a perfect skin to know about skincare. Also, I don't think he is a "scam artist". What is wrong if he use a filter or make up or a bright light on his videos?. He never said that his skin was perfect, and in a few videos he talks about his pimples or redness or bad skin in general. Another thing will be if he always says that he always have a porcelain skin (which is not the case cause he talks about his bad skin as well) and sell products based on that.
@@JoseParraga He should definitely disclose that he is using filters on himself when making videos like "how to soothe irritated skin" or "how to treat acne" or "how to fade acne scars" in my opinion as he is a skincare youtuber. The point is, he has never had severe acne, gone through the battle of severe acne, yet uses filters and makes claims and reccommends affiliated products which I doubt he ever even used. He has zero transparency in my eyes. When we look at Cassandra or Dr.Drey we know their stories and we can see them unfiltered. And their recommendations are based off on strong researches and educational background, not opinions they formed based off paychecks.
yeah I stopped watching Susan Yara and Hyram, they’ve recommended things that as a black girl, I can’t use they don’t really think of different people I feel like they only think of their skin they’ve been just recommending the same old expensive ass things and that’s why I started watching dr dray and dr vanita rattan because they talk about white skin and skin of color which has helped me a lot
Hey! I’m a poc too and I’ve seen and heard hyram talk about sunscreen and making recommendations for darker skintones! I actually liked that he did that. I am curious tho what type of products he recommended that can’t be used for darker skin? Is there a difference in skintones just as dry, dehydrated, normal and oily skintypes? (I am truly curious and not trying to call you out or anything). I’ve always just went my skin as being dry and dehydrated and never thought of that my darker skin might be needing different ingredients. Also, I totally agree with the comment about Susan yara, everything she recommends is super unaffordable and she probably gets them for free as well? It’s so stupid and therefore I never really followed up on her recommendations.
@@Jivitaa I know glycolic acid the kale lalu yaha 5.25% is too harsh for skin of color bc it’s the smallest form or AHA’s so it penetrates deeper and quicker that could potentially lead to irritation on our skin which can lead to hyper pigmentation, watch dr vanita rattan she’s a cosmetic formulater for skin of color!
@@b1glexx oh wow okay thanks for letting me know, I’ve actually been using kale lale yaha for some time now 😱.. I will watch dr vanita her videos thanks!! I also tried mandelic acid from wishtrend and my skin looked worse, but my acne was really bad at that time too so can’t really say what worked and what not.
So I have a few pet peeves when it comes to Hyram : 1. For someone who got into the skin care because of premature aging as he claims, he does not have a lot of input about anti aging products, namely retinols as number 1 proven anti aging ingredient. He rarely mentions retinol products as is, and when he does, he recommends Shani Darden retinol which is beginner retinol and it definitely would not have eliminated all his wrinkles to 0 if he only used that one forever. 2. He always bashes his skin with extreme over exaggeration like "my eyes are so extremely puffy right now and I have a break out the size of a volcano" and there's literally nothing there on his face. That makes people like me, who actually do suffer with those things, feel like shit and my confidence decreases even further. 3. It's ok to have opinions and preferences when it comes to products you use, but constantly turning down products because of false information (like chemical spfs being reef unfriendly or Polyethylene killing sea life) does not do anyone any favors. It's totally fine to admit you're wrong about this info and still prefer mineral spfs, but stagnant stance which never changes even when there is so much information to state otherwise, for me that's the worst.
my thoughts exactly! Hyram's skincare is all based on his opinion which is fine and all but the amount of misinformation scares me only because man's has such a great influence over others but he PLAYS TOO MUCH THIS IS SOMEONES SKIN WERE TALKING ABOUT GAHHH
I worked my first job at a drug store at 16 in the beauty section and my title was “skin care specialist” because I read pamphlets on NeoStrata and such lol now that I’m a REAL cosmetology specialist, I realize now I knew NOTHING compared to what I know now. I hate that “specialist” term that he uses. Like why and how do you think you know what you know and feel you can call yourself a specialist? What makes you more informed than the average person? Just be transparent! The fact that he won’t say how he is a specialist makes me not trust a word.
At first I thought "skincare specialist" is something you get a degree for in the US or something. Until someday he mentioned in one of his videos how he doesn't like Rose water because Rose oil is fragrance. I was shocked. I have nothing to do with skincare and I know that rose water and rose oil are *completely* different things. I'm curious to know what he means by "specialist" and who his "clients" are
Yeah as a south Asian when I heard that I unsubscribed. Rose water is a huge part of our culture skin care wise, we’ve been using it for centuries. It’s been proven time and time again to be good for skin. I knew he was full of shit when he said that
The most obnoxious part about him being the fragrance police is that he knows nothing about essential oils. They aren't just for fragrance. Or aromatherapy. Tea tree oil is an essential oil. There's only one way to extract the ester soluble ingredients...& For fucks sake, sebum has an ester in it.
I just found you on utube, and I love watching you! I agree with everything you said! I'm a licensed mental health therapist. If some says "I'm a mental health specialist," they by law need to carry a license to identify themselves that way. I held a part time job at a makeup store and my title was a beauty advisor. Thar doesn't mean I know what a professional knows, I have the basics to guide you. I often used my own experience and led them to speaking with an actual doctor if needed. The filter thing, yeah I don't think someone should filter their face to the point they are poreless. I look forward to watching you more. You are so cute!
i will say before i started watching hyram, i would feel super itchy after using cetaphil. like dry itchy. i started using cerve, but i’m currently using an even more gentle cleanser. idk what it is, but my skin gets SO angry if i don’t use a SUPER gentle cleanser and a cleansing oil first. but then if i don’t use any moisturizer (not often, ADHD sometimes doesn’t let me complete my self care after i shower) i don’t get very dried out. i don’t have super dry or oily skin. it’s just really sensitive. the comment about the pH is not wholly accurate. (i do NOT know the full situation, this is just me being nit-picky about science.) I’m a junior in biosystems engineering at one of the top colleges for my major. i’ve taken AP chem, chem 1 and 2, biochemistry (so much stuff about pH), heat and mass transfer, ect. this is a fairly basic concept to my education. lowering the concentration of an acid in the solution would in fact raise the overall pH. there for if you did get an acid burn from a product, you could say the pH was too low or the concentration was too high. those things being said, i don’t really listen to just one person ever about anything. i agree that hyram is entertaining and informative. however, i also watch other people’s videos about the same topic. if there is varying opinions, i do my own research and use the skills taught to me in various classes to determine what i think the answer should be. i love using hyram to get the basic info about a product and/or learn about new products. as he says, he’s not a dermatologist or aesthetician, therefor i put very little stock into what he says when it comes to the technical side of skin care.
It's always important to remain critical of all of the information you digest and how these products are affecting you personally. I fully support that! It's not ever wise to just take all of your information from one source. Thanks for sharing your experience, and I can definitely relate to this; 'not often, ADHD sometimes doesn’t let me complete my self care after i shower' !!! Cheers!
Yeah actually he caused me so much anxiety when I got skin care obsessed during covid. Like so much anxiety and I lost the picture entirely. Now I’ve relaxed a bit and just focus on products it junk will work and enjoy!
Thank god someone is talking about it. We have a lot of doctors or true specialists giving advice on RUclips, I don't get why he and other enthusiastics get more hype.
I think Hyram is very honest and he always says at the beginning of every single one of his videos that he is not a professional and that not everyone has to take his words to heart and that they are his personal opinions and how HE decides what products he would use and explains the ingredient list which is very smart to do. I believe he calls himself a specialist because at his job, that's his title. That is not a title he gave himself. I like that he explains what the scientific words are on the ingredient list, that people tend to skip over, but I love that he explains to simpler terms. Although he does nitpick, but he does so, because he only wants the best for his skin and hopes for his viewers to want the best for their own skin as well. And he does sound like a hypocrite sometimes (i.e. YTTP , fragrance etc), but he does back it up on why he uses it, it's because it's a wash off treatment (which he explains alot in his videos) Yes he is sponsored, he is also always upfront about brands reaching out to him to review and test, but he will always tell the brands that sponsor him that he will be brutally honest regardless of the free products they give him, which he does, during his videos. I like that he does learn from his mistakes -- especially when his viewers call him out on certain things -- he does admit it when he's wrong because at the end of the day, he is a human after all. He doesn't claim to know everything. What his viewers choose to buy, are ultimately up to them. He simply guides people who are either starting out with skincare or just want more information. He is incredibly humble with a passion for skincare. He introduces tons of brand names and products, there is no way that a single person can use all of them anyways so he is only giving his viewers "options" which isn't wrong. He has also said that yes fragrance can be irritating etc and that some products have alcohol that aren't good for the skin, BUT he also knows that certain people react differently to some products and he says that they can always continue with what works best for them.
Well said Jennifer P. Hyram articulates himself, gives disclaimers where he needs to and explains himself or gives pretext when his opinion varies .... IF Hyram isnt one's cup of tea because one is advanced in their training, then unfollow him , his target market is to the those who want to learn the basics ... so as the trained eye / mind, add content so that we can listen .... I have personally moved on from Hyram but I have respect for what he does, there is a reason why he has a steady and growing fanbase ... I learnt from him when I was starting my skincare , and now I have found dermatologists and I follow them ... and I will keep seeking to learn from anyone who seeks to teach .... Instead of focusing on criticing him , find ways to learn because there is still a lot to learn in skincare ... and I say all this with love and objectivity.
I agree with you because most of his fanbase is always attacking skincare brands like Saint Ives etc I know he is very informational but also I think he should be more respectful. At this point, It's not nice and not professional the way he handles situations.
totally agree! I got a product from St Ives for Christmas and my first thought was 'this is the internet's most hated brand because of Hyram' LOL. But there is no way I am not going to try a watermelon face wash... LOLOL
Glad it was helpful! I watch all of his videos too, but there are just some things I needed to point out lol. I probably would not have been able to make a nonbiased video with actual details if I wasn't already a fan lol
only watched 4 minutes so far (will watch the rest, dw) and so far i completely agree. i saw this random guy named Hyram getting a lot of views on youtube (good for him !) and he kept showing up in my recommended. i clicked on a video of his but immediately turned away when he said «skincare spesialist». i already watch Dr Dray and Cassandra Bankson so i’m good. Cassandra’s definitely my favorite now bc she’s a bit more realistic and relaxed, though i understand Dray’s perspective as a derm seeing the worst case scenarios in her patients. Cassandra has also pointed out a couple of things that Hyram has been wrong about regarding certain ingredients, at least formaldehyde i believe. the thing is i have researched a lot of skincare ingredients myself throughout the years so i felt like i literally already knew everything that Hyram was talking about, so i quickly moved on from him once i realized that he had nothing new to teach me
There a lot of hyram fans on this post defending him. I have work in this industry and have train physician assistant and nurses in esthetics procedures. His advice is superficial. most industry professional will agree with it but his advice is not special, .Sure dr.dray like his advice does that make him amazing? In this industry specialist can refer to estheticians, dermatologist, plastic surgeon, and nurses and PA of dermatology/plastic surgery. It is misleading to use that title because he has no formal training ! His advice can be found in magazine articles he is not reading scientific papers. His advice isn't bad but he need to own up with this faults.
personally while watching his videos i have trouble finding what would work for me because i'm a trans man on testosterone and your skin changes like crazy when you start hormone replacement therapy, i've tried lots and lots of skincare that would be considered "hyram approved" (dermatoloical, no perfume, no heavy exfoliation, no essential oils, spf protection etc etc) yet my skin is still really bad because the truth is when your skin is constantly changing as your body adapts to new hormones it's hard to find a routine that works. i wish there were skincare "specialists" that would acknowledge that sometimes, even if you have a good and consistent skincare routine, your skin isn't gonna look good. my skin makes me insecure and when i see some girls around my age being slammed by hyram for their skincare (like summer mckeen) i just imagine all of the people that could make fun of me bc of my acne, and how if i was visible on social media i could be subject to humiliation bc of my skincare routine. he always says he's constructive but i actually find his reactions quite humiliating....
Another video criticising him pointed out the reactions too, and I agree. Also about your issue I’d say speak to your doctor/derm about your issue. Even if you don’t have a derm your hormone doc should be able to help the symptoms
@@II-bn8gc i'm gonna see a dermatologist !! but i feel bad for the people he's reacting to because if i were them i would feel humiliated, even if he says he's doing it to help them. maybe it's because i'm sensitive, but he reacted to charli d'amelio's skincare routine and that girl must not be older than 16 years old and if i were her, especially at her age, i would've felt really awful
all valid critiques! I was new to skincare when I first started watching him and he made terrified of essential oils. glad I found some other people after I began watching him.
I had to unsubscribe awhile back. I was subscribed to him a bit before his channel took off. He had a good amount of subscribers but nowhere near what he has now and I noticed the shift in his videos. He’s a skincare pusher at best. His fans are also something else, like he can do no wrong, which is such a toxic way to think. I also feel like he does nothing to correct that behavior. It really didn’t sit well with me that he didn’t speak up about the Susan Yara incident. He spoke so highly of her, yet when it was revealed that she was giving her own company’s products stellar reviews without disclosing it was her company, it was crickets from Hyram.
I agree with you so much. I don't have anything personal against him it's just he doesn't have the actual credentials a dermatologist would have. He's a skin care enthusiast at best. It's kind of a slap in the face to people who went to medical school.
I have always thought it was weird that he said the cetaphil cleanser was stripping...I actually stopped using it because I felt like it left a film on my skin. (Combo skin/VERY oily T zone)
Yeah my one criticism of Hyram is that he recommends against using a cleanser with actives like glycolic acid because it's too harsh for your skin but at the same time recommends The Ordinary 30% AHA peel which is super harsh! It all depends on the person but my glycolic acid face wash worked for my skin while the AHA BHA peel destroyed my moisture barrier. I wish I did my research first on that. (And yes I patch tested it with no problems and didn't think I had sensitive skin) oh well at least I know now. It's just better to talk to your own dermatologist before experimenting with products like that and just use your own judgment for what works best for you vs taking a youtuber's advice as gospel
Similar experience! Anything with hyaluronic acid makes my skin peel and dry out like crazy and he rants and raves about products with hyaluronic acid in it because apparently it’s supposed to be hydrating.. like it does not work that way for everyone.
@@TheBlondeInPink But that doesn't happen for a majority of people. For most people, as long as you use a moisturizer immediately after, it works fine. I don't think he should stop talking about how hydrating it is (because it is ; this is confirmed by derms) just because a few people have allergic reactions to it. You can have that reaction to anything. That isn't really his fault.
He doesn't recommend it for every day use. He specifically said that The Ordinary 30%AHA peel should be used once a week at most but he recommends once every 2 weeks.
@@kungfugirl64 I never said he recommended it for everyday use. I've never heard anyone recommend it for everyday use because the instructions say to use it once a week. I followed the instructions to a T and still experienced sensitivity and a damaged moisture barrier. Which is fine, not everyone has a bad experience with that product but I just wish Hyram was more consistent and reasonable with his recommendations.
@@laurenkcole He did warn against using it if you have super sensitive skin though. He always made it clear how strong the product was. I don't have sensitive skin but even I was hesitant to try it because of Hyram's warnings. As for glycolic cleansers, he's said he doesn't love the ones with high percentages for everyday use. I remember him recommending one with a lower percentage for everyday use but he still said to he careful if you have sensitive skin. You use a cleanser day and night meaning 14 times a week in comparison to the mask which is once a week or twice. It's reasonable that he might not have recommended the glycolic cleansers with a high percentage for everyday use. At the end of the day, he has always said everyone's skin is different and he says this stuff based on what he learns from derms and etc. He never said his word should be taken as gospel so I feel bad for him
i think the reason robert welsh does those videos is because he learnt makeup the traditional way, whereas james charles and manny learnt the sephora/mac/social media/drag way
My friend just became a Makeup Artist the Formal way. She did her entire training in 1 day this past weekend and is now a certified Makeup Artist. Sounds like a TONNE of experience in comparison to people that spent everyday the last 10 years working on makeup... The point being; if you do the exact same job as someone else, don't put yourself on a pedestal.
i agree with absolutely everything you talked about in this video it was really well put together as well. what i don’t like is hyram telling people that their skincare routine is “wrong” or they shouldn’t be using what they’re using. like, skincare is very personal, he doesn’t know their skin type or what they need, who is he to say what they should be doing or not. dermatologists and actual specialists can do that, but only after actually properly getting to know their clients and testing for allergies and stuff like that. who is he to judge someone he hasn’t even met, through a youtube video without knowing anything about the person (their skin type, their history with different products) for example, me. i have normal to oily skin and i know that if hyram saw my skincare routine he would flame me for it and would tell me everything i'm doing is wrong. i don't use any comercial cleansers or things that are "marketed" as skincare. i wash my face with regular mild soap. and i rarely use moisturizers, all i use is virgin, sweet almond oil, with nothing added to it (from herbal pharmacies - not sure if that would be the proper translation, i am romanian and in my country we have special pharmacies that sell only completely natural products, with no other added ingredients, just herbal remedies). this is the same skincare routine that my mother has, which she learnt from her grandmother. my mother is now 51 years old, and she is just barely now starting to get a few wrinkles around the corners of her eyes. the same with her grandmother, my great-grandma, which sadly passed away at 93. that woman was 93 years old and she looked around 70 years old. skin is influenced by genetics, so that's why i also adopted the same skincare routine, and it does wonders for me. i will not try to change it and waste all of my money on hundreds of skincare productes that are nothing but well-marketed, and won't do anything good for me. i don't care that "that's what everyone does and it's trendy to have a 10 step skincare routine" or shit like that. i am now 19 years old, i have went thruogh puberty and when i was starting to get pimples at around 12, i immediately started doing what my mother told me, and started to use tea tree essential oil. a lot of people say "ohh you're 12, you're too young to care about skincare yet, you should start when you're around 20, that's when your skin would start to age, until then you don't need to do anything to it". but that is not true at all (at least for women in my family), that was their secret, starting young, so you won't even allow the aging process to start. i have went through puberty and haven't ever had to deal with severe acnee. once in a blue moon i would get like, one pimple, but that was it (and it’s mostly because it was that time of the month, so it’s not really much i can do about that, breaking out around that time is normal) i know that hyram would try to tell me that this is wrong, and i need a special cleanser, and a special serum, and special moisturizer, and blah blah blah, and would try to convince me that i need all those expensive products with thousands o ingredients (which, some can be harmful). when that is absolutely not true for me. this is why i dislike skincare youtubers that try to tell you what to do when they don't know anything about you or your genetics. this doesn’t mean that i don’t care for skin care or dislike it in any way. i’m actually very interested in it, and sometimes i wish i would do more and use more things simply because skin care to me is very therapeutical. i see it as self care, it makes me feel better. but since i have a skin care routine that i’ve stuck to for years and is working wonderfully for me, i don’t have any reason to change it. i don’t want to risk switching to other products because i might get really bad problems with my skin. i’ve tried a few commercial cleansers when i was younger, and actual face creams for a while, simply because i wanted to have a wider range of products and more steps in my skin care routine because as i said, to me it therapeutical and i felt like i needed to do more, but also because i was young and impressionable and i saw all these youtubers with 10 steps skin care routines, i felt like that was the only “right” way to do it. to this date, it’s the worst thing i’ve ever done for myself. for a short period of time, until i quit that routine and returned to my normal products, i had so many breakouts and i was even left with a bit of acnee scarring. fortunately, i stopped right away and my skin went back to normal and got rid of the discolouration and scarring.
I agree that he is not a profesional skincare specialist on paper. But i do think he knows and learned a lot by educating himself. I know people without a diploma who are better in what they do then people that have a diploma for it.
He really doesn't know very much... seriously. He learns how to pronounce the words & the very basic things you can find on the first page of Google results. I've been really into skincare for years, just trust me, he's really selling himself as knowledgeable. He's absolutely giving more info than what you find on a package, but all his videos are formulated the same way you'd form an engaging sales pitch. Have you noticed he has basically no videos that are just educating on a type of ingredient without plugging a product? He also only plugs certain brands. There's tried & true products that have been winning awards for years that he never mentions. Aside from that, he really isn't very thorough at all with the info, his vitamin C video doesn't even mention the most stable form that's been studied, he only mentions 2. One being the least effective, but very common bc it's very cheap
I actually really enjoy the cetaphil cleanser on days where I didn’t wear heavy makeup... I’ll use it as my second cleanse and my skin feel great after
I agree with ALL of these points & so many of the comments I’ve read... I found myself not tuning into Hyram about 6 months ago..I just think he’s overly judgmental & sometimes even hypocritical. And one of my favorite things (and I noticed after a couple of them) When he intros a Reaction Vid for a younger series actor, or maybe a Tik-Toker... He’ll be like, “ OH MY GOD, I have been SO EXCITED to make this video about ‘so&so’!!!! (Totally fan-boying) Now until yesterday- I’d never heard of them, but I think they did a movie~ or was it a Net-.. flix... serieeees????” And the he’ll mispronounce their name. Really? You were SO excited about this person you’d NEVER heard of or seen work from?? Um ok.
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Dr Alexis Stephens & Dr Vanita Rattan (board certified dermatologist & Dr (cosmetics formulator) repectively) are absolutely the best youtubers with skin care content especially for People of Color (Indians/ Africans/ Asians/ Latinos etc)
thank you! I'm going to pin this comment so others see it!
I have been searching for a skin care person for my husband! Ty I'll recommend them to him.
Funfact - Indian are asian so basically asian covered it all..
@@anusha3770 that is true!! I think she just meant in terms of the specific skin texture needs amongst people of Indian, Korean, Chinese, etc descent.
@@JordanJSparks but you won't say African and Nigerian separately would you? Simply south Asian is better and it's high time we should normalise Indian and pak in asian because most people think Asia only has china and Japan. And India Bangladesh are some different thing.
He freaks out when someone uses a product with fragrance but also promoted a sunscreen with LAVENDER oil (the bliss block start spf)
not to mention half the stuff he currently recommends is fragranced, too. kinship is really, really awful for this!
Oh, shit. Thanks for the heads up. I was thinking about purchasing it. I'll just stick with my Differin facial SPF until I can find something better that's cruelty free. It's so hard to find SPF that doesn't pill, isn't greasy, & doesn't leave a white cast. The worst facial SPF I ecer used is Neutrogena...It's just white grease. Terrible!
There's a difference between lavender oil and lavender essential oil. The only purpose of the latter is fragrance factor.
Yea cause he’s sponsored. 🤦♀️ it’s getting really bad because it’s obvious he’s money hungry & doesn’t care about anything he preaches if there’s a sponsorship.
I check the ing' even if he recommends them
The only reason he trashed cetaphil is because he's secretly sponsored by cerave which is their biggest rival. An undisclosed sponsorship btw. Which I'm pretty sure is illegal. Plenty of evidence over on reddit.
Hey how do I find the information on Reddit about this?
Which subreddit?
He doesn't trash the brand, he says that he just believes Cerave is better. He even said that Cetaphil is an okay brand if you are okay with a good but very basic formula.
Cetaphil and Cerave are both good. I only take advice from real dermatologists on here, but I listen to all the wannabes, just to see what they say.
@Isabella Funk lol
He claims to be a specialist?? He’s a skincare enthusiast at best
i get all the criticism, but to be fair he does say that "specialist" is the title he has at the company he works for, he doesnt say he is/knows as much as medical professional!
On the contrary- HE has NEVER claimed to be a “skincare specialist”. And he states that at the beginning of every video!!!!! Next.
@@aura3337 Really?? Are you illiterate ?You might wanna go look at the title of some of his videos cause they say literally that very thing! What are you talking about?.... Next.. moron
@@tiabacker2899 well that’s why I first checked out his vid.. cause I thought he was an actual specialist .. come to find out the kid is no more one than I am.... it’s misleading
@@user-cd6xp5lk4c thats a good point!! its definitely a way to get views just like a lot of people on youtube tend to do to get people to want to watch their vids. it is misleading, but officially he does go on to say that it is merely his title at work. i get the issue though, if you want professional advice it can be annoying
'Specialist' - If you pump gas you can be called a 'liquid petroleum transfer technician'
omg I'm screaming 😂☠️
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Im dead 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha When I was little my father would tell me that was his job as a teenager and I thought it sounded so fancy lol
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As a Doctor, I assumed Hyram was a Dermatologist or at least an Aesthetician, and just laughed when I found out that he is in NO WAY a "skincare specialist". He is a skincare sales clerk and a RUclips entertainer. Jordan Sparks brought up very valid issues with Hyram's "advice". I find Hyram laughable.
i always thought “specialist” meant you are a professional with more knowledge in one area... like a dentist who focuses on cosmetics. he has no right using that title 😭😭
He’s very young to be a board certified dermatologist lol. You’d need to be nearly 30 for that atleast in the US
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People worship him and it almost feels like a cult. I’ve said this for a long time, he’s not certified! I’m not sure how you can call yourself a specialist without any certification. He needs to call himself an enthusiast and stop spreading misinformation. Also, does he ever actually use the products he recommends? I see him recommend products but I never see him actually put the products on his face.
You'd have to watch him personally every night to confirm whether he uses them or not. He doesn't claim to be certified at all. He literally explains himself at the beginning of every video he does. I wouldn't say it's all misinformation since a few dermatologists I have watch, have claimed the same things. And if there ever was a time he was wrong about something, usually he will correct himself if someone brings it up to him.
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7:00 in that video. His OWN SKINCARE fails his own test. The plastics he uses from sugarcane that he claims are so good for the earth actually create more damage with how much carbon is created from turning sugarcane to plastic. He’s a scam artist who preys on kids looking to help the earth.
Well said! The culty following he has is super annoying
@@PetSymmetry exactly! Greenwashing
as someone who has bio degree with minor of chemistry and women of color, he does spread misinformation and recommends products that doesnt work on poc when he claims that he want to recommend products for “everyone”. my friend who has a chem degree and plans on skincare business, she hates hyram cuz he shits on products that she really likes and disagree with the ingredients he shits on. but his cults are very problematic and sensitive when ppl call him out. we really need to not listen to tiktokers who claims to be “specialist” and listen to dermatologist and people who has education on dermatology and science.
Hyram recommends Cerave but we do not see him using them in his routine at all. When he did his routine for Harper's Bazaar I was expecting to see a couple of Cerave products and there were NONE!!!!
omg true I didn't even think of that lol
@@JordanJSparks YUP and it is very hypocritical!!
Why? He could easily have changed up his routine 🤷♀️. I’ve used plenty of things I’d recommend that I don’t use now because my needs have changed
@@tradwitchmorgana6933 well then he should not be getting paid to do these Cerave advertisements then!!!!
And he doesnt put it in the background..and in my country its kinda expensive and honestly it didnt help me
As a licensed Esthetician for 15+ years....thank you! Glad someone said it!
@{. 𝔍 }. Yes! Irritating and inflammatory! I personally avoid it. Even 'natural' fragrance such as essential oils can be extremely irritating. Of course there are many different types and will depend on what your skin can personally tolerate as well as the percentage of actual oils in the product etc (in terms of essential oils). For example I cannot tolerate most citrus essential oils and it will immediately cause breakouts and irritation for me personally. Really read those ingredient labels!
I personally loveeee that hyraim doesn’t like fragrance or essential oils bc I have the MOST sensitive dry skin however I find it hypocritical that he pushed the youth to the people cleanser that is full of those things like that cleanser is awful for my sensitive skin
You have sensitive dry skin. Not everyone else does though.
He does explain that he is okay with fragrance in cleansers, because it is a wash-off treatment and is only on your face for max 30 secs, but it's only when fragrance sits on your skin, is what bothers him.
Also, Hyram tells us that he has oily skin which is WHY the YTTP cleanser works for him.
It's because Hyram works for Youth To The People. He failed to disclose his employment contract with that company.
That's because he works with them. They have admitted they have had a paid partnership with him.
Not everyone has sensitive dry skin. The products he recommended have done nothing for me. Ive tried so many. I went to stronger things and exfoliating products and my skin has been glowing as everyone at work has been telling me. I dont listen to hyram but i watch because i like to learn what difference products there are
Lips are the only skin on the body that produces no oil. That’s why you gotta moisturise ‘em 🏴☠️ and they can’t get zits!
Ps glycerin is 25x more effective at holding moisture than hyalaronic acid, and unlike the latter does not draw moisture from your actual skin when the air is too dry. It also happens to be very inexpensive..
PREAAACH!
ive gotton blackheads on my lips sorta it was on the side
i always had an odd feeling about how condescending he came off in his videos sometimes, but i thought he was well versed on the topic. the first thing that made my trust with him waver was his undisclosed sponsorships and just sponsorships in general. his fanbase i believe is the worst part, they often “attack” people who go against something hes said or wont use something unless he approves of it (despite him not being a professional.) his fanbase also doesnt really do their own research as a whole
hes also said various hypocritical things regarding fragrance and alcohols in things which made me lose trust too.
So true about his fans...I'm like well I know what works for my skin and y'all don't.
yeah if hyram said rubbing dirt on ur face helped, his fanbase would do it
@@xursssulaxx probably because they are just teens trying to get rid of acne
Regarding Robert Welsh: if he knows they're a make-up pro he says so. But also, he's always respectful during the reacts. Even with the anti-baking thing, he says it works but it's just overdone. Like too much powder.
I love Robert Welsh. He gives tips that are so different from most beauty RUclipsrs. They usually just know how to make their own face look good and don't know how to work with other peoples features.
@@em84c i don't know Robert Welsh so i'm nervous but i'm going to try to watch his vids.
@@visualbeauty3427 I like his channel because he actually talks about what looks good irl compared to makeup that people usually use for pictures and video.
I love the Welsh twins ❤
Great username bestie
Robert Welsh actually has been a working MUA for years and most of the people he does react to are not. He does a lot more than reaction videos and his reaction videos are never attacking the person, their looks or anything personal, just the techniques and what he would do instead. The difference between Hyram and Robert is that Robert actually is a trained MUA, not just an enthusiast and while Hyram "shades" people or is directly mean about acne or things they can't help Robert focuses only on technique. I feel his videos are more based on education while Hyram is just mean and dramatic most of the time.
My point is that there is no tradeship governming the MUA industry, like say, being a Hairdresser, so for him to call his training professional makeup artist training and for him to not acknowledge someone like Manny Mua as being a professional is a slap in the face. Manny is just as much of a professional as Robert.
At Least Hyram never call himself a professional when critiquing someone skincare. I do find Robert respectful and educative and knows his shit, but I do not think for one second that he should be putting himself on an MUA platform and considering someone like Manny a 'Beauty Guru' it's actually straight up insulting.
Lmfao how are you going to compare the two? One is a makeup artist and one is very knowledgeable about skincare. That’s like comparing basketball players to snowboarders. Apple and oranges
I’m a licensed esthetician myself went to a Aveda school and they don’t even teach you 10% of skincare just how to sell it and I wouldn’t even dare call myself a specialist lol. Great video very informative!
Omg Kayleb! I haven't seen you around in forever! and totally agreed! ALSO, I was going to go to Aveda too! That was my number one choice in highschool lol
He prefers CeraVe over Cetaphil bc he’s affiliated w CeraVe!
I didn't know that until after making this video.. but that makes so much more sense now
After using both brands I will say cetaphil constantly broke my skin out while the cerave cleared my skin but definitely dried it out
Though I love cerave, it's always so shady that he chooses that over anything he compares it with.
@@lacedrain But the whole reason he chose to have a deal with CeraVe in the first place is because he likes their products. I don't think it's shady if he told us when it happened. He genuinely recommended their products before that as well.
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CeraVe seems to have more fans than Cetaphil. Neither is cruelty-free. I'm out on this person because I don't like these types of videos.
Thank you. He's entertaining, but I take everything he says with a grain if salt. Everything he says is simply an opinion & not a professional one.
I agree.
Exactlyyy, he does verify that too.
BUT HE DID SAY THAT ALL OF HIS REVIEWS ARE AN OPINION
As a nurse I’m part of a regulatory profession. I have to have a license in order to call my self a nurse. I needed to have the education and pass exams and clinical in order to even qualify to get a license. I’m glad you called him out on being a “specialist “ when he didn’t earn a title.
get over yourself..
@@biking7747 bruh, just leave 😐
@@llawliet7118 who is u 😹 you leave tf.
@@llawliet7118 u f*t
He uses that title because he is not a licensed esthetician or board certified dermatologist...and says so.
As a licensed esthetician I dislike it very much when beauty gurus use ´specialist´ in their title of their skincare review videos. You can not create a correct skincare regimen for everyone unless you have met every single one of your subscribers personally, and even then, whatever is said does not come out legitimate if you are not thoroughly educated . Some products Hyram recommended may helped his viewers, sure, but I really have something against the usage of the term ´specialist´ when he is clearly an enthusiast at best. I get that people like watching his videos because they are entertaining in some sense and he seems to be a very likable person. But that doesn´t mean you shouldn´t criticize his legitimacy. A lot of young- no, actually, people of all ages takes his words for granted. It is much cheaper to listen to tips and tricks by enthusiastic beauty gurus than go seek out a professional. I for one have done this too in the past. You have to take what you hear with a grain of salt and find other sources to find out what is true or not.
ghurl he probably knows more than you. all of his facts are legitimate and have been recognized by dermatologist like dr. dray. don’t be jealous because he didn’t get any formal training but still manages to know more than you 💀😭😂
@@Luke-dn4pj no he doesnt you idiot hyram fan. Hyram does not understand processes such as chemical peeling, Iontophoresis,Sonaphoreis, Jet peel/jet injection.Hyram does not know the physiology of the skin structure and how it related to getting a cosmetic procedure. I highly doubt he know what do when someone with skin type 5 and 6 has hyperpigmentation. being recognized by dr.dray doesn't mean anything, you can get his advice just by skimming 5 mintutes on google.
@@Luke-dn4pj credentials absolutely matter, and hyram isn't licensed whatsoever. it is what it is. what's the point in being rude to this person, saying they are jealous & such, when they weren't even being hateful towards hyram? most of us here like hyram and enjoy his content but will give criticism where it's due. he's literally mentioned in almost all his videos that he doesn't claim to know more than estheticians or derms and stresses you actually see them for serious skin concerns.
@@starlight1818 exactly wtf. I don’t see any problem that hyram has that needs criticism. I just hate how people will complain about the smallest things
@@fgostoryteller2168 oh really? he literally duetted a tiktok about those topics. I’m 14 years old and I already know most of that stuff. Iontophoresis is like a process that helps treat sweating by using electricity to deliver drugs. sonophoresis is that sonic vibrating plate used in extractions or helping treatments go in pores. Literally Ion (electrical charge) and sono (sonic vibrating) are in the name. Idk why u think it’s so special. Estheticians go to school for 4-6 months and can work immediately. But You literally have to wait 9 months before you can get a provisional drivers license in my state.
I used to watch his videos regularly until I saw him promoting Curology in an ad and remembered his video where he said Curology doesn’t seem to be anything special 🤦🏻♀️
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Same. That curology ad popped up, i unsubbed
That's why I like James Welsh way more. I feel like he's a lot more honest with his reviews. Also I've noticed James' skin always looks different in all his videos because even if you use the "best of the best" it's normal to get spots and blemishes. And I like how he always says which products have fragrance and that they were okay for him because it doesn't irritate his skin but it can for others. My sister can handle so much on her skin but for me I have very sensitive skin and I can't handle products that have fragrance at all. When I started getting into skin care I tried so many different cleaners that were recommended by RUclipsrs because I thought I had to use those to have better skin but they would just irritate my skin really bad. It took about 4 years but I just recently started using Cetaphil and it has helped my skin so much. Skin care doesn't always have to be super fancy and expensive. Whatever works for your skin.
Also I've seen someone point out that he'll have affiliate links for products he specifically doesn't recommend like makeup wipes. I'm not sure if that's true but if it is that's really messed up. :/
I’ve noticed that about James Welsh and that’s what made his videos stand out to me in the first place. I never feel like I’m being talked down to when watching his videos either. He’s very honest and down to earth and so is his brother Robert. I love both of their channels!
His skin looks perfect hyrams doesnt look nothing special
He's never had affiliate links to markup wipes or stuff like that. Idk who said that but it isn't true lol. Also, I love James Welsh too!
@@whynot7802 honestly the couple of times I have watched hyram’s videos his skin looks super tight and almost dry/low key irritated 😂😂😂
Thank u for making this!! The “skin care specialist” irks me too tbh. I like dr dray on YT as she’s a dermatologist and reviews more affordable items. Always nice to have more perspectives tho and not follow a single person. I think he just needs to continue to be transparent that he isn’t as all knowing as he acts when he judges people’s routines.
Yaaas Dr. Dray is definitely my favorite Dermatologist on RUclips, she gets right to the point and doesn't pander to her audience she just comes with straight facts.
@@JordanJSparks I’ve been following her for years since before Hyram blew up and she has always been very informative! I wish I could make an appointment with her, but I don’t know where she practices, and she probably doesn’t take my insurance. 😭 We’re both in Houston.
@@izziestevens5835 I don't think Dr. Dray has actually practiced in a few years. I think she became a full time youtuber in like 2019
@@JordanJSparks 😩 That’s so sad. Here I was daydreaming. That makes sense since she does vlogs all the time. I remember following her years back and on some of her vlogs she would wake up early and say about going to her office where she works, but it makes sense!
@@izziestevens5835 will all due respect to Dr Dray. Other full time dermatologists kind of scoff at these social media derms. Rather than focusing on helping patients or doing relevant research, all they do is self promotion. If you can't get admiration from your peers because of your work, you get it from the public who doesn't know any better.
He’s wearing makeup & using a filter in the videos promoting his own skincare line. It’s incredibly dishonest
Edit - Robert Welsh is so respectful & full of praise for almost every reaction he does. He’s worked in editorial, fashion week, with celebrity clients etc…that makes him a professional. It is different but not better than being a makeup influencer, as he always states. I’m confused why you have a problem with him
Hey! I don't have a problem with Robert per se, it just bothered me when he classified other Makeup Artists as 'Beauty Guru's'. It felt like he was placing them below him.
@@JordanJSparks I see your point but I see it more as, they work AS makeup artists online on YT p much exclusively and actually enjoy the title beauty guru. He himself has said he still works as a professional make up artist in his life offline and I feel like taking on a moniker like “beauty guru” isn’t how he wants to present himself to clients is all. He understands he’s in the same category as influencer, I think it’s just that particular title he has no interest in sharing for himself personally bc he doesn’t want it which, that’s his choice?
His brother is often doing the same where he’s trying to make the verbal difference of skincare “specialist” and skincare enthusiast bc like you said a specialist means nothing if you have no formal education to back it up. 🤷🏼♀️
@@maranduhjean At the end of the day though it is entirely disrespectful to come into somebody’s space and put yourself in a league all of your own. all the other top beauty gurus started out as make up artists and then moved to RUclips just like he has.
@@maranduhjean and to me it is just elitism to come into the beauty gurus space and profit off of the culture and business model that has been put in place by the creators that came before you, and at the same time make it obvious you look down on the term ‘beauty guru’ because it is somehow a bad reflection of you for your business. If you don’t want to be considered a beauty guru get off RUclips and stop positioning yourself at the forefront of that space. A beauty guru is the title that has been created exclusively for these make up artists who work online and created this culture and this space. It’s the same as walking into Anna Wintour’s office at Vogue and trying to position yourself ahead of her as a leader in an industry she pioneered.
@@JordanJSparks I mean I get it. I wasn’t entirely disagreeing w you. I could just also see it from another perspective. I’m also not aware of the video in question where he was refusing to call himself a guru so I don’t even know the full context. There are a handful of major influencers that began their careers solely on YT and worked hard for their career and following and moved out into the industry from garnering online recognition which is just as credible as doing it the other way around and taking industry knowledge and bringing it into the online space.
I do 100% see where it can come off as elitist and rude tho if you do it in a way where you snub your nose at the other half as if your way was better. It would be just rude as if someone w a following like NikkiTutorials were to turn up her nose and say she deserved everything more bc she started at like 14 making videos in her bedroom after school and “look where I am now”. Respect is key.
about the filter: he says in a few videos that he uses a beauty filter because the camera makes his face suuuper red. you can also see that filter for example in the video he did with James Welsh, when he moves or laughs and puts his hand in front of his face, the filter disappears and you can definetly see his forehead being tomato red. is it shady for a skincare youtuber to use a filter? yes, it is and im not trying to defend him, just putting this info out here🤗 (also, please correct me if i made any gramatical mistakes, English is not my first language and im still learning it. thanks💕)
I was not sure if he used a filter but I honestly assume most youtubers do. I wish skincare youtubers wouldn't do that. Also, your English is phenomenal! If you don't mind me asking, what is your first language?
@@awest3749 thank you💕 my first language is Hungarian, and my second is Romanian:))
Lol yeah your English is really good
What video did he admit using a filter?
The camera doesn’t make his face super red… his over use of active products and lack of actual knowledge/training on the histology and how ingredients react with skin does…
If it wasn’t for the pandemic and literally everyone wanted a skin glow up he wouldn’t have grown this big. Same with Chloe Ting her channel blew up in quarantine.
i agree but also i'm glad chloe tings video blew up here work outs are the only thing that got me moving lmao
Exactly. If you watch Greg Doucette you'd understand why some of us don't watch her.
why are you so hateful and jealous?
@@ChocolateMuffin308 do i know you?
What does it feel like to be a hater? What is wrong with you people
The main thing I have noticed now that skincare influencers are a thing, is that consumers forget it really doesnt help to use thirty products. These people say vitamin c, niacinamidr, azelaic acid, hyaluronic acid and retinols are GREAT. HOWEVER they are great for some and you shouldnt use it all in the same routine. So many people with skin problems would see improvement if they just simplified their routine so their own skin can heal... There are only a few youtubers, like dr dray, who explain it correctly. Just use a simple cleanser, a moisturizer and a sunscreen in the morning, then at night a micelar water or oil cleanser, a cleaner, a moisturizer and after like ten minuted apply a THIN layer of differin/adapalene (or whatever active you enjoy) . The simpler, the better your skin will react. But yeah, that's not profitable.
I know....they don't ever really talk about how you should be using some things for a couple days, use another for 1 bc of how strong it is...I feel like it's mostly google searches being reiterated with personality.
Hyram actually taught me some good skincare tips. I would have never found out about Cerave or Cetaphil if not for him. I didn’t even know about putting sunscreen on your face daily to prevent dark spots, that’s how little I paid attention to skincare before I started watching him. But you are right, he is not a dermatologist or an esthetician. I just think of him as a knowledgeable skincare enthusiast who I would trust for advice on what products to get for starting out, not a go-to for any type of skin disorders/issues.
Agreed
He should be the general word, Not everyone's perfect- Do your own research kids!
Hyram just rubs me the wrong way, and always has. He doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about a lot of the time, and I actually find him to be fairly problematic. So many of his opinions on products (or whole brands even) are based solely on ingredients lists, and he essentially "reviews" products without ever having used them! And for whatever reason, so many of his followers just accept his word as law. He made a video about Clinique, basically saying that it's all garbage that no one should use, and people in the comments were talking about throwing out BRAND NEW bottles of product that they had been using FOR YEARS simply because they weren't "Hyram Approved." It's ridiculous
I don't have an issue with Robert Welsh though. He has addressed the whole "Pro MUA reacts" thing in several videos. It's just the name of the series, and started with reacting to TikTok videos and makeup "hacks," and he only really started reacting to influencers and other makeup artists after people started requesting it. He's also made it very clear that his goal is to point out how some techniques look great on camera, while others look good in real life, because many people don't necessarily know the difference and can't figure out why they can't get their makeup to look good.
I watched that video and he said Clinique was ok, but was not innovative. Did we watch the same one? 😂
@@eva_pe I may have exaggerated a bit, but he made it pretty clear that he doesn't approve of the brand's products. I'm fairly certain there was only one product that he approved of, and he also said something about Clinique "still using fragrance," which just goes to show how much he knows about the brand, because Clinique has always been fragrance-free. Yes, they may have some out-dated formulations, but all of their products are fragrance-free and EXTENSIVELY allergy tested. They test each formula on hundreds of people for weeks, and if anyone has a single reaction, they start over and reformulate. I clearly wasn't the only one who got the same message from his video. Just read the comments. It's ridiculous.
Could it be that you remember him being overly harsh because you mentioned he rubs you the wrong way therefore making you more prone to overscrutinizing him? Like I said, I watched that video too, and what I got from it was that he generally approved of the brand, he liked in fact several products including the moisturizers, but he said he wished they spiced up their game a bit and used more exciting ingredients, instead of the same old stuff that's outdated.
But I can understand how when one doesn't like someone that much one tends to have a bit different perception of what's being said. I tend to react negatively to people that "rub me the wrong way" too... there are a few famous people in that category for me as well xD I get annoyed by a lot of what they say, just because they say it. So I can relate to some level.
@@eva_pe that's absolutely not the case. It was one of the first videos of his that I watched, before I had even formed an opinion on him. Regardless, if you actually watch the video, he is very against the first two steps of their 3-step routine, and essentially says that apart from a few products, he doesn't recommend the brand and that it's not worth the price. It's not actually very expensive, especially compared to some of the things he recommends, and its partly priced where it is because of the extensive testing they do. He also says that you can find cheaper alternatives of their products at the drugstore, and I honestly haven't found hardly any drugstore dupes of their products. Also, just read the comments and you will clearly see that I'm not the only person who got the vibe that he doesn't approve of Clinique....
FYI- you can use Cetaphil gentle wash on BABIES. Premature babies in the NICU. So- that should tell you what you need to know. 🤷🏼♀️
Yea that stuff dries the absolute shit out of my face. Cetaphil stuff sucks
Babies in the NICU don't wear makeup and sunscreen 😒
@@fallguy6196 your negative experience negates everyone who’s had a positive one?
@@elizabethm4705 yes cause I'm the only one that matters lol. Seriously though Cetaphil sucks I don't care what you say. I have tons of friends and family who all say the same thing. Not just a couple people alot of people. And there are alot of people online who have negative experiences with the brand. I see more negatives on Cetaphil than any other brand honestly.
@@fallguy6196 I don’t even use their products. I’m just saying everyone’s skin is different. I’ve seen many positive and negative reviews.
Thank you!! I've "graduated" from Hyram I think. I feel now when I will watch them occasionally, they bother me at times but I could not put my finger on it; you did! Thank you.
I feel the same! I'm a giant nerd for science so I just crave more than the basics which is why I enjoy dermatologists now!
i love your ability to criticise something but still be respectful and share positive opinions too. shows that you’re not at all biased. you made some great points! very educational too.
Not to mention that non sense about chemical sunscreens being bad for coral reefs, which other influencers who are actual chemists and skincare formulators have already talked about about and proved not to be true. He says there's some pseudoscience in the skincare world but he keeps perpetuating it. He was one of the first "skinfluencers" I followed when I first got interested in skincare and, because of that pseudoscience of his, I panicked about chemical uv filters and actually didn't wear any sunscreen because I couldn't find any affordable drugstore mineral sunscreen I liked. Now I finally found my favorite sunscreen and it happens to be a chemical one. His audience can be very impressionable and he shouldn't spread fear like this about any ingredient.
Seconded; feels like he just did a 5minutes google and read off info from unscientific websites. (It is like the misinformation of 'vaccine causes autism' all over again). It has been proven again and again that there is no solid evidence that chemical sunscreen is dangerous for coral reef.
He has recently said that he learned that that information was wrong.
Well Hawaii has literally banned the use of certain sunscreens due to their chemical ingredients so. There are chemical sunscreens that do not affect coral out there.
I remember hearing someone say that he took the fun out of skincare and I 100% agree. I love having fragrance in some products because it makes it a better experience for me and it doesn’t irritate my skin personally but when watching his videos I started to feel guilty about that. Skincare should be fun not guilt inducing
okay I 100% agree with this and that's exactly how I felt too!
@@JordanJSparks love the video by the way :)
I feel like he tries to find problems in formulations to stay relevant, picking apart non-existant errors for views, to keep content, because he truly isn't a skincare expert, and therefore has no professional grounds to fall back on. Because he needs to find a place for himself in the industry, a way to make his opinions relevant, just like many other skincare youtubers. By leveraging consistent fear-mongering, by harnessing his followers fears he can create an influence, where there shouldn't have been one in the first place. I see him and many other big influencers review things and I think ... "fuck you really have noooo idea what you are on about, at all". He alleges he is all about ethics and appears to have a stream of constant ethical undertones to move his audience, so that they can possibly be distracted from the fact that him doing what he does on RUclips and cancelling brands is inherently unethical? I dunno, am I going too deep? Maybe.
Yup. I worked as a formulation chemist and I stopped watching the second I realized he has no knowledge in chemistry or biochemistry. Like I’m sorry but some ingredients ARE needed, and unless you want your product to cost triple or double... SOME ingredients will make the list because they’re necessary to emulsify the product or give it a viable shell life. Everyone is too quick to judge a product by the list and yes there’s components that matter but no one understands these chemicals can also be expensive af or I hear them complain about price etx
These unfounded opinions are what's driving change towards the wellness trends which (some of them are okay and in fact, highly necessary for our way of living) but most of it is shit, and products are literally becoming worse because of these false pretences. Formulations that had the potential to be greater are now just okay.
@@alarawierzbinski8884 yup. I wish they talked about green washing. As I said, as someone in the field, all these green products are bs when you consider the EXTRA amount it takes to ship the ingredients, transport them, the packaging, etc. Might as well just buy something else that is already easily produced etc. But people listen to ‘gurus’ who don’t think about the small details that matter
I have highly highly sensitive skin and I can use items with fragrance if it's one of the last 5 ingredients. And yeah, I use Cetaphil cleanser and moisturizer and they were recommended for pregnancy too.
me too! Super sensitive skin and I’ve never had a problem. I know other people can, but to write off entire product lines that are great for 99% of us doesn’t make any sense
@@JordanJSparks Agreed. Everyone's skin is different, if something I get irritates my skin, but I can tell it's a good product, I give it to a friend or one of my sisters. But to totally write a product off because it isn't for you, it's ridiculous.
Thanks for always explaining your opinions in a thoughtful manner. 🤗👏💖😘
I'm allergic to wool, so I can't use skincare that has lanolin, but for whatever reason, lanolate is totally fine.🤷♀️ That doesn't mean I'm going to go tell others not to use something because it has lanolin.
I noticed Christi Lukasiak got the same chemical burn rashes from Proactiv that I did, but that doesn't mean the product doesn't work for others. I knew several people that used it successfully before I tried it. Warning others is one thing, swearing it off altogether is another.
The problem is that you can become sensitized to fragrance, or even worse develop co-sensitization, at any time. Hyram is actually less against fragrance than derms like Dr Dray.
@@JordanJSparks but how do you know it’s great for 99% of the population?? The same goes the other way around. Just because you like a product doesn’t mean that product is great. It’s all very relative. I usually don’t agree with everything hyram says, but he is just stating his personal opinion which he has the right to do so. Granted, he has a large platform and can influence many people, sometimes possibly in the wrong way, but that’s part of the territory of having any large platform and any personal opinions. Personally, I don’t like Cetaphil at all. I have oily and sensitive skin and this brand in general is super drying to my skin. I’m pretty sure many experienced the same. So to say 99% of people would like these products is ALSO sort of irresponsible because is highly likely to not be true. It’s just simply an opinion of your own experience. But that’s the thing, why is it ok for you to have your opinion but not for Hyram? It’s just an odd point of view. The thing for me in here is, we are talking about opinions in general and not facts. Because if we get nit gritty, for example, fragrance is not a killer on a product that washes off, but it will be a killer with frequent and continuos use because it could potentially develop sensitivity regardless if it’s just a wash off product or not cause the key also relays on frequency. And that is just one example on how not everyone has the total truth in their hands to really point the fingers at others. Sometimes not even professionals or doctors are right because they can also “form” their own personal beliefs and opinions.
And anyone has the right to express their opinion on a small or large platform and not be crucified for it (unless is a very terrible opinion like for example promoting hate speech, racism, etc). All I’m saying is, you have the right to talk about your opinion about Hyram, but that doesn’t mean it can come across as partially unfounded and even as bitter (or jealous). Just saying. You can also appear in the wrong way by pointing out the wrong on others even if by any stretch you were to be right 🤷🏻♀️
@@roselynmvm To answer simply because I have never made anything black-and-white. I always say what works for me might not work for you and vice versa. I would also never scare away people from using a product because of that reason. try it out see if it works for you. make your own decisions. trust your own brain trust your own skin. never once did I say Hyram shouldn’t have his own opinion, He shouldn’t blur the line between opinion in fact when he is talking opinion.
I’m subscribed to James Welsh. And that’s how i found hyram’s videos. It was back when he’s still got less than a million subs and way less than James Welsh’s. His videos were okay then. But I still don’t get why now he’s got more subs than james and other youtubers with better content.
Yeah, I haven't been bothered to watch Hyrams videos lately.. he changed in some unsettling way when he got famous. I do watch every video James makes though.
James is no better than Hyram. In several of James video he contradicts himself. In addition, he said in multiple video that he would not review Cerave because of the packaging as it was “boring” so if someone is going off of shiny packaging and not what’s in the product then that person is not for me. I usually watch board certified dermatologist on RUclips rather than watch people who are “specialist” and can’t review something if the packaging isn’t pretty. I trust doctors with my medical health, why not trust experts such as dermatologist with my skin?
What i like about James is he's transparent that he's just a consumer reviewing products. i watch him because he's transparent. He updates if he suddenly likes a new product he said he'd never use again. At least he's not claiming to be a "specialist" of sorts. Plus, i'm all for the entertainment part of it, especially with his channel with Robert. 😆
@@Zenmasterzzz The same Cerave formulas we have in the US weren’t even available in the US until recently. James is someone who likes his skincare routine to be fun, which is why he likes cute packaging combined with a product that actually works. Why would he review something that is a) a completely different formulation from the US version, which won’t even benefit a large % of his audience, and c) doesn’t interest him. He mostly uses Korean products anyways. He doesn’t tell people not to use Cerave, and he has used Cerave in the past, he’s just not going to review it on his channel.
@@jjayjae_ I think people watch derms and enthousiasts like James Welsh for different reasons and that’s okay.
As a biochemist, thank you for this. He’s definitely said a few things that make no sense to me scientifically!
Me too.. I am also a biochemist and feel the same.
Props to you guys 😱 I’m STRUGGLING in organic chemistry 2 😭 orgo 1 was so easy yet orgo 2 is so difficult- maybe it’s the change in professor
@Sciediu kinda old comment but I just wanted to say hey, props to *you* too dude.. I dropped/flunked out of orgo 1 twice before just giving up and switching my major 😭 Bane of my existence, no idea why it was even required for dietetics..now seeing those damn carbon compounds almost gives me PTSD I swear
well at least he's actually helping thousands of people. and he's more user friendly for people starting from ground zero. what have you done for anyone mr science?
@@andrewpersaud4144 dude what they're just saying that he said wrong things what does that have to do with him helping more people
That's why I like to see different opinions, I love hyram because he got me in more deep in skincare but that doesn't mean he knows everything .
I feel this sentiment exactly!
Boy shut up, he knows absolutely NOTHING
Omg thank you for doing this video, clearly those who didn't like it are teens who have no clue how manipulative he really is... The fact that he doesn't even try products and reviews them.. Is disgusting!! This Truly shows how RUclips is biased and plays unfair games with certain content creators... I have seen him steal from so many smaller skincare content creators and don't even mention where he got the info from.. Glow by Ramon, Raw Tin Skin, Matt Randon and Shundara Castion are skincare content creators I know for a fact he has regurgitated there information and never credited them.. Some have alluded to him stealing from Dr Dray as well... There are so many more but they don't care... I know a few have said some things subliminally but that's about it. It's clear he uses a filter!! One minute he is a dark orange color with smooth skin and the next minute he is pale with a 5 o'clock shadow.... Karma will get him eventually for manipulating people for money and fame... The only reason he gets away with it is because he isn't problematic.... Thank you for calling out the BS!!!
I’ve also always thought that he was WAY to overdramatic about Certain things. For example FRAGRANCE! I am not even sensitive to fragrance yet I always feel guilty when I use products that I love. Not everything is a life or death situation..... especially not two drops of essential oils or something. I don’t feel like it’s right to put down a company that puts one drop of fragrance especially when it’s supposed to hide other things that smell bad in the item... what else where they supposed to do!
Its for people who are sensitive to fragrance. A lot of people are. Hyram always says if it works for you keep using it. Some people just don't realize fragrance is causing a lot of problems with they're skin I didn't until I started watching him. When I started removing fragrance from my routine, I noticed a dramatic decrease in flare ups on my face. Generally fragrance just causes more problems in people skin when its unnecessary in most products. But If you enjoy it keep using it! Some people skins are just a lot more tolerant or can handle more varieties of ingredients. 😄
@@jenh3486 I do understand your point. I didn’t realize that so many people were so sensitive... But I still think that he can get his point across without being so dramatic!
@@jenh3486 that’s all understandable but then rate the products fragrance aside and then warn people that it does have a fragrance so it’s not best for sensitive skin. Does the product itself work as intended? Is the formula good? How does it feel? But putting down the whole product because of a fragrance is what throws people off cuz he he’ll give it a 5 or 7 because of the fragrance even if the product was amazingly good.
@@fg1434 The issue is he doesnt even try the product. He reads the ingredient list and has that as the end all be all. Thats not how it works. You cant tell how something will preform off of the ingredients list because we dont even know the percentages. The % of fragrance in a product could be such a small amount that its negligible but how would he know? He didnt even try it.
For example yes alcohol is drying, but in a small dosage it can help other ingredients better penetrate into the skin. In larger doses it works as a preservative and when combined with the right ingredients can be very hydrating
@@jenh3486 ok but he will totally disregard any product that has fragrance even tho it works for a lot of people
I’ve definitely learned a lot of great intro information from Hyram. He encouraged me to look at the ingredients and think about what they could do for me.
However, once I found Dr Shereene Idriss, Dr Dray, Cassandra Bankson and other skin care professionals it helped me better understand the info they provided me. I feel like i got to a point where I grew out of Hyram. I learned what I needed to. Now, I go to him for fun reactions videos but not concrete info/recs.
Exactly the same!
Just a disclaimer: This video was in NO WAY meant as Hate towards Hyram nor do I think you should stop supporting him or watching his content. This video was meant as a Critical Analysis of someone with a large Public Platform. I still support Hyram, I think he has a great foundational knowledge of the function of the Epidermis and above average insight into the formulation of products in the Skin Care and Cosmetics industry. Just like every Human, Hyram is not perfect and I am not holding him to a standard of perfection. I think Hyram has had a profound impact helping people get initiated into skincare and helping people build their own interest in Skin Care so they can dive into a more in depth education if they so choose. I personally will still watch Hyram if he has content that is of interest to me and I still support him as a great source of Skin Care content for you too! I apologize as I have emotional disregulation due to my ADHD and Anxiety that generally makes me appear super aggressive and angry when I am just passionate about something. I promise I have no hard feelings towards Hyram and I apologize that my tone was very harsh and that I did not drive it home that I still think he is a great creator and I appreciate his passion. Again, this video was just meant a critical analysis as we all have room for growth and constructive criticism, especially when we have an impact on a public platform. Please do not send any hate to Hyram or any other creators mentioned in this video, and STAY SPARKLY! xoxo - Jordan
Ya I was like a specialist in what? By the way you are too nice don't worry. His fans will be defensive, it's expected tbh.
You are right. I also dislike how he doesnt specify PH in regards to layering products. And hey i do love me some tatcha ( my skin likes a few products and i listen to my skin ). He contradicts himself too much and the skin care specialist = me googling ingredients and saying the same.
Im not sure of he uses a filter but it looks like he could be.
Also.... Fragrance is used for MANY products so they cannot be copied.
In regards to robert i understand your point but he is so kind in his reaction videos. I think he says that he's a pro mua because he's not as big as those influencers in terms of youtube, but has been in the industry for over a decade. His thing is that instagram makeup is not always flattering and is too much product. After he reacted to manny mua i noticed Manny including his tips in his makeup application. I have a high respect for robert...he shares his opinion with the disclaimer that one can do whatever they want with it and will reiterate that he wont talk down on a person for their looks or whatever drama. Also the way he suggests other methods in those reactions are done very respectfully. I dont think robert puts himself on a pedestal, i truly think he wants to help others and he truly does give excellent advice. For example why certain brushes can make something look patchy. I think he's rather humble and very kind...unlike what we somewhat see from hyram.
I can totally understand your points.. but I really appreciate Robert's approach with his criticisms. Like this video, he points things out respectfully. Robert and James are probably my favorite for each category (skin care and makeup).
You are so wrong about Hyram. He's not anything you say. He's like a friend who cares about skin and gives you a lot of awesome advice. His advice is for people with super sensitive skin...he's a skin nerd as well...and you're over exaggerating the ingredients list thing, he just talks about marketing schemes with ingridient list. You need to stop hating on the poor man's dermatologist.
@@mostmuskulareph7837 where was I hating? I love Hyram. I gave him some constructive criticism.
You're the only one I've seen talk about him, and probably one of the only ones that could be respectful while talking about Hyram! Congrats to you, and you need more subscribers at this point lol
Thank you! I was worried about posting this video for the longest time, I actually filmed it over a month ago but I like Hyram and I know the RUclips community sees him as a saint that can do no wrong soo I was afraid to post this and share my opinion.
@@JordanJSparks I was actually considering watching him for the first time today! So it was honestly perfect timing. And I feel like with all the evidence you put out there it would be kinda hard to see him as a complete saint.
Go to the reddit .
@m f reddit sadly causes my computer to lag really sad about that
I think a lot of people were introduced to skincare through Hyram which is great because we should all take care of our skin but he does a lot of fear-mongering which has made me turn to the DERMATOLOGISTS on RUclips like dr dray, dr daniel sugai, etc.
Instead of the pricey recommendations I now get more affordable products that fit the budget because honestly, I’m not someone who can spend $50 on a tiny bottle of serum. I don’t think most people can.
I absolutely agree!
I really appreciate you doing this i hope this wakes up more people to all the fear mongering and misinformation about 'specialist' on YT. I used to watch hyram for the fun not now but i watch only certified doctors dermatologist because they explain everything with scientific approach.
I was right there with you until your Robert Welsh rant. He acknowledges the experience of MUAs. He goes out of his way to say that his “critiques” are what he would do, but that doesn’t make the person he’s reacting to wrong. He also points out to viewers the difference between techniques for film vs real life. Lighting, time, heat, etc. all effect makeup. That’s fact. But he still frames everything as his OPINION.
That being said, I still appreciate the rest of the video.
I agree that Hyram should not be using the title of skincare specialist, but I do not agree with what you said about Robert Welsh. He has never ever been disrespectful to any people that he has reacted to, he only gives his opinions, one artist to the other, and he has every right to call himself a professional makeup artist because he is one, makeup is a form of art and yes anyone can be good at it with years of practice, and just like how people can have opinions about any form of art, he has his opinions and techniques, and I feel his goal is only to share those techniques with people so that they can learn from it if they want to.
I know Robert has never been disrespectful, I just don't understand why is a Professional Makeup Artist but someone like Manny Mua is a 'Beauty Guru'. They are both Professional Makeup Artists.
also as someone who has the most sensitive dry skin ever my dermatologist had me use cetaphil for about 6 months before I was able to use cerave that’s how sensitive my skin was. It’s weird how much he trashed cetaphil compared to cerave when it’s just about how each individual persons skin is. Now I use the green cerave and I love it! I’m able to use tlc and the moisturizer from DE and I’m super happy with it but if I didn’t go through that healing process of super gentle cleanser and super simple thick moisturizer first I would have never healed my dryness
I think a big misconception is that people watch Hyram for his skincare knowledge - qualified or otherwise. RUclips is ultimately an entertainment platform, and Hyram is a youtuber, thus he is an entertainer, I would not and do not see him as a reliable source of skincare-related knowledge. That being said, I would still go to him for any skin-related concerns I had, simply because I can see his passion and eagerness for skincare; hell, the very fact he is merely a hobbyist makes me admire him all the more. I accept that he may contradict himself sometimes, or give bad advice, but his success on RUclips isn't down to his knowledge, it's because he's a genuinely likeable and entertaining guy. His most popular videos are reactions where he pulls funny faces and shudders... So I agree with you, he isn't the best source for skincare, but by god is he an entertaining guy who makes wanting to learn about skin a fun experience
I'm so glad someone else finally said something about him using a beauty filter because I think he definitely does for the same reasons you do. There's some videos where its so bad that it starts to smooth his hairline out which makes it really noticable to me. I called him out in a comment on one of his videos and he pinned my comment and responded claiming that he has never used a beauty filter before and that his skin looked like that solely because of his lighting which I find hard to believe.
idk i like robert welsh sooo i don’t agree with that. influencers only know makeup that’s good on them. some exceptions obviously, but they never change their makeup style. and tbh manny mua sucks! he’s done the same damn look for 6 years. they do things to their makeup that aren’t good, because it’s not about their skill it’s about how well they can sell a product. robert is wayyyyyyy more informative and clear about when something is an ad. manny mua has an ad or sponsorship in every video to the point idk what he actually likes an uses.
At the end of the day the man is rich and successful. Because of him alot of Genz are now more interested in skincare and alot are now acne free.Thats just youtube in general. People are allowed to give out opinions and advices (including you).At least he references people to well-known dermatologists .His channel is more as a beginner step to skincare .For the big guns follow Dr.Dre.
My skin had been destroyed by using a wrong product before, encountering hyram channel is the reason why my skin is getting better and healed in the first place, I'm really thanksful for this. I think that hyram channel is for someone who's just new or have zero knowledge about skincare to begin with, or someone like me who isn't too 'blessed' to be able to understand the chemistry behind the formulation and ingredients, hyram's way of the 'fear mongoring technique' is a simple and straightforward way for people like me to get into a store and choose the best and 'safe' products at least, where he mentioned what ingredients we should avoid without getting too deep and complicated about the science behind it 😆 However, if i wanna learn more about something or a professional opinion about skincare ingredients, i will always compare and contrast the opinions from multiple sources, especially from dr dray channel, i always bear in mind that hyram's opinion is not the professional one, he also did mention about this in his videos always. 😊 These are just my humble opinions btw...
You are so right!! He has no educational background. His title is so misleading
The perfume guilt made me feel so bad !! I don’t use perfume usually i always use good products but I’m at the point that if it’s in the last ingredients I don’t care ! I bought a body wash/cream with essential oil and I’m loving it , i also always prefer European especially french dermatologist approved skin/body care , it’s always simple , affordable and effective! I love skin care but i feel like we literally started to obsess over skin and rules it’s tiring , my brother + mom + bf just want a simple cheap routine and people make it so complicated when it’s 5 products is enough
I really appreciated this video. You’re not attacking him as a person, you’re just bringing to the surface that he is not a specialist, but soo many of his subscribers take his opinion as gospel. I do like him and he seems sweet, but I stopped watching his videos especially his reaction videos because he would always have the same commentary, “this cleanser has no fragrance ok that’s great” idk all the commentary became repetitive and just his signature responses.
Thank you for pointing out so many things about Hyram.There was something about him that irked me and especially the way he introduced his brand. It gave me greenwashing and white savior vibes,so I wrote him off completely.
When it comes to skincare,I listen to Dr.Dray,Dr.Shah and VERY important thing:I watch how my skin behaves when I introduce it to a new product.And one thing I never bend on is reapplying SPF 50 every 2 hours.
I started to really take note on the things he was saying when he said the Cetaphil gentle cleanser wasn’t a good cleanser. My dermatologist recommended that when I went on accutane! I’ve loved it ever since then and still continue to use it although I’m no longer on the medication. Loved your thorough explanation on the things you do not like about Hyram and why.
Thanks for sharing!! I used to take his advice very closely but then as I became more educated I realized our opinions weren't really all that aligned.
all hyram literally said is that cetaphil is basic and doesn’t have any innovation to it. doesn’t mean it’s bad, it just means that its better for people with sensitive skin - as he noted. he just wants us to have the best stuff. i mean if you like it then go ahead. I actually found that cetaphil really dried out my skin, which goes to show how different out skin is.
@@Luke-dn4pj no he said on multiple occasions it is ‘drying and stripping’
@@Luke-dn4pj I found it perfect for me. Just goes to show, everyone is different so why should we all avoid this stuff like the plague?
@@JordanJSparks so that we force companies to do better and develop initiative to make innovations. he never said not to buy the cetaphil cleanser, in fact he said he really likes it.
I have the feeling that things hyram said are used out of context. For example fragrance: he always says that he, personally, doesn’t like fragrance but that it doesn’t bother him in a wash off treatment. Moreover he says if it’s not working for his skin it can still work for others. He usually dislikes fragrance because there is no other need for it to be in the product than the smell.
The Cetaphil thing he said is about being a good and simple product but if you’re looking for more/other ingredients there are other options.
Not knowing the science behind it isn’t actually bad if you’re researching the outcome of the use. You still know what it does and how it works even if you don’t know every tiny bit. For example: salicylic acid -> unclogges pores, but not exactly how every acid works.
Overall, an interesting video. I think it is important to get another perspective on skincare, which you offered.
I think I was pretty fair and only commented on things he has brought up multiple times while I have been watching him. But Quick Question, Why does everyone say he says this about Cetaphil ; ' Cetaphil thing he said is about being a good and simple product but if you’re looking for more/other ingredients there are other options. ' He has said on numerous occasions on numerous platforms that Cetaphil is stripping . I can time stamp tiktok AND youtube videos for you if it's that important. I just find it odd because I hear him say this SO often . Essentially Anytime Cetaphil is brought up actually.
Not understanding the science behind a product is fine for when you are trying it, I agree. You don't need to understand everything you put on your face. it's NOT fine when you base your fear mongering advice that you make a career off of from random assumptions or anecdotal experience. It's his responsbility to understand the science behind something or DON'T SPEAK ON IT like you do understand in my opinion.
Anyways thank you for watching the video and for critical thinking and using your own brain instead of taking anything I said as gospel!
@@JordanJSparks Thank you for acknowledging my statement.
I have to agree that he said that Cetaphil is stripping. I searched on my own for those statements.
I think it’s important to know the science when people start nit picking every bit of a formulation. Like emulsifiers, stabilizers, preservatives etc. They’re not there to bother you, they’re needed and some of the ones used and considered ‘horrible’ it’s like ok.. do you want to pay double? Because you Can of you want another emulsifier but he doesn’t know what etc because he isn’t a chemist/biochemist
I agree with everything you said outside of your commentary on Robert Welsh. He typically reacts to youtube beauty gurus and while alot of them like nikkietutorials and manny mua for example are great - they are not professional licensed make up artists and they most likely would not know how to do makeup professionally on various clients. He never disrespects them or tries to insinuate that they are wrong in any way. Many of their techniques only work on youtube studio settings like under the heavy lighting etc. Robert is a professional as it is his actual job to do actual makeup on various clients in sunlight / office lighting etc. otherwise I agree with you.
I understand your point of view 100% but That's actually where my problem with it is actually, there is no such thing a professional licensed makeup artist. Makeup is a Art form you can learn by yourself or by going to school,etc.. It is not a governed trade like Hairdressing. you don't need any school or specific training to be a professional makeup artist. There are schools you can go to, but as stated, it is not a governed trade . There is no difference between Robert and Manny. The people he refers to as 'Beauty Guru's' do client work for the highest caliber A- List celebrities on their channels all the time. Nikkie is one of THEEEE most talented makeup artists on the planet. Her eye for detail is *chefs kiss * in my opinion. Regardless of what kind of makeup artist he considers himself or any of them to be, they are all makeup artists. It's the same as A- List stars saying Social media stars are 'not celebrities'. If they have a bigger following than Zac Efron or Kim Kardashian, you can bet they are a celebrity lol. Celebrity by definition is someone who is well known. Kim K is not an actress either so why would Kim K be a celeb but not Charli or Addison Rae for example? Whether someone respects your work is irrellevant.
I’m a professional makeup artist of ten years, in Los Angeles for film, events, etc. And this is false. “Licensed” makeup artists aren’t really a thing. Most of the professionals in my industry, actually every one I know, learned from freelance or possibly a trade school and took a course. It is not something with tests and qualifications. The comment from Jordan replying to this is 100% correct. There’s no difference between NikkieTutorials and Robert Welsh other than him possibly specializing in let’s say wedding makeup rather than Nikkie doing heavier event makeup. The only differences between a professional makeup artist and someone who’s hobby is makeup is 1) can they do makeup on others, not just themselves. And a wide diverse range of clients. And 2) do they follow sanitization protocols for safety. That’s about it. And obviously, practice and experience will determine your skill level.
Hyram might not be a specialist but we cannot deny that this skin care trend that's happening now he responsible for a big part in that, he introduced safe, good information to young ppl to start taking care of their skin and that's a credit that he deserves
absolutely agree!
Nah
I hear where you’re coming from, but as someone with sensitive skin I’ve always appreciated his carefulness when it comes to ingredients. His point is to air on the side of caution because they CAN be irritating. Essential oils are extremely harmful to my skin. But just because someones skin doesn’t immediately react like me doesn’t mean it’s good or beneficial for their skin either. I appreciate your opinion though and a debate about skincare philosophy only strengthens the community so it’s all love. 💖
Hyram's videos have helped me soooo much with my acne, so I'm forever grateful for that. My skin is really prone to fungal acne, so I used to be so scared of products with certain ingredients that can apparently trigger it even if they were really low down the list and that really limited the products I could buy. Lockdown forced me to get a moisturiser with some of those ingredients in as it was the only one I could find, but it hasn't caused me any breakouts and it's now one of my favourite moisturisers. I guess everyone's skin is different, and products that don't work for some work well for others. I dont think people should stop buying products just because someone else doesnt like them, but anyway I still love Hyram's videos :) sorry for this really long comment😂
P.s. I laughed so hard at 6.25
Oof I didnt realise how much I wrote. In summary: I agree with you, and I still respect Hyram😂
I love that! I'm glad you are seeing great results! I totally agree, I still watch most of his videos and I have learned about a lot of great products that I wouldn't have otherwise looked into! Love and respect him too.
Fungal acne aka Pityrosporum Folliculitis is a rash not acne. You can get a topical anti fungal from your doctor/dermatologist or you can just wash your face with Head and shoulders shampoo. Also if it wasn’t itchy it wasn’t fungal acne and you should see a doctor. I’m only mentioning this because I’ve seen many of Hyram viewers misdiagnose themselves with fungal acne.
@@cannsmith Thanks for replying, and yeah I have seen many people diagnose themselves with it also but I did go to a dermatologist to confirm. Unluckily for me I had acne and fungal 'acne' and Hyram's tips have really helped me, but I wouldn't get advice solely from him. :)
i’m curious what moisturizer helped your skin so much?! lol i’ve been struggling w/ acne and need any product rec i can get
I always wondered how his face was so smooth and perfect looking. Now it makes sense🤦♀️
yeah I have no proof he uses a filter, he already has super nice skin, but if you watch his videos compared to like collabs he does on other peoples channels where they edit the videos, his face always looks different in his videos.
@Mylie Dylla nice try
Uhm he doesn’t use a filter 😂 he looks almost even better on collabs. Ur literally picking him on everything now.
@@romy3582 At his collab with James, there are instances that you can that his skin turned red-ish when he facepalms. Those are signs of filters being applied, because the hands block the face and the facial recognition cant work.
I have just loved Hyram for a few years now, but have started to become confused. I agree that many oldie but goodies still have great efficacy. I use a 'scary' old fashioned Ponds product. I love it so much and I will not be talked off it. I really appreciate this info.
Hyram is one of many skincare opinions I watch. Like effective research I watch many skincare enthusiasts and professionals talk about a specific topic, and gather my own thoughts from the multiple perspectives.
amen!
I do the same, some he suggested that i like and some other products others have or he doesn’t use, To me People are adults and need to not be zombies and think for themselves and for teens, I didn’t see anything harmful he says and as a parent a pay attention to what my kid is spending money on…… My money lol
Honestly you don't need to have a clear porcelain skin to talk about skincare (if that is what you meant with the filter thing). My dermatologist has a lot of acne scars but he knows what he is doing
Preach it. I have hormonal acne and no matter what i do i still breakout. I have done everything my dermatologist has recommended but this is the price u pay when u have PCOS. But even despite that i know more about skincare than some people i know with crystal clear skin 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
Yeah but he's a DERMATOLOGIST and Hyram isn't! Hyram is a SCAM ARTIST!
@@californiadoll6273 You didn't get the point of the comment. What I am trying to say is that you don't have to have a perfect skin to know about skincare. Also, I don't think he is a "scam artist". What is wrong if he use a filter or make up or a bright light on his videos?. He never said that his skin was perfect, and in a few videos he talks about his pimples or redness or bad skin in general. Another thing will be if he always says that he always have a porcelain skin (which is not the case cause he talks about his bad skin as well) and sell products based on that.
@@JoseParraga He should definitely disclose that he is using filters on himself when making videos like "how to soothe irritated skin" or "how to treat acne" or "how to fade acne scars" in my opinion as he is a skincare youtuber. The point is, he has never had severe acne, gone through the battle of severe acne, yet uses filters and makes claims and reccommends affiliated products which I doubt he ever even used. He has zero transparency in my eyes. When we look at Cassandra or Dr.Drey we know their stories and we can see them unfiltered. And their recommendations are based off on strong researches and educational background, not opinions they formed based off paychecks.
Exactly!!
yeah I stopped watching Susan Yara and Hyram, they’ve recommended things that as a black girl, I can’t use they don’t really think of different people I feel like they only think of their skin they’ve been just recommending the same old expensive ass things and that’s why I started watching dr dray and dr vanita rattan because they talk about white skin and skin of color which has helped me a lot
Hey! I’m a poc too and I’ve seen and heard hyram talk about sunscreen and making recommendations for darker skintones! I actually liked that he did that. I am curious tho what type of products he recommended that can’t be used for darker skin? Is there a difference in skintones just as dry, dehydrated, normal and oily skintypes? (I am truly curious and not trying to call you out or anything). I’ve always just went my skin as being dry and dehydrated and never thought of that my darker skin might be needing different ingredients. Also, I totally agree with the comment about Susan yara, everything she recommends is super unaffordable and she probably gets them for free as well? It’s so stupid and therefore I never really followed up on her recommendations.
@@Jivitaa I know glycolic acid the kale lalu yaha 5.25% is too harsh for skin of color bc it’s the smallest form or AHA’s so it penetrates deeper and quicker that could potentially lead to irritation on our skin which can lead to hyper pigmentation, watch dr vanita rattan she’s a cosmetic formulater for skin of color!
@@Jivitaa mandelic acid is the most gentle form of chemical exfoliant bc it’s the largest aha molecule so it penetrates way slower and gentler
@@Jivitaa he’s recommended that product before and I didn’t know it could potentially damage my skin if too high of a percentage
@@b1glexx oh wow okay thanks for letting me know, I’ve actually been using kale lale yaha for some time now 😱.. I will watch dr vanita her videos thanks!! I also tried mandelic acid from wishtrend and my skin looked worse, but my acne was really bad at that time too so can’t really say what worked and what not.
So I have a few pet peeves when it comes to Hyram :
1. For someone who got into the skin care because of premature aging as he claims, he does not have a lot of input about anti aging products, namely retinols as number 1 proven anti aging ingredient. He rarely mentions retinol products as is, and when he does, he recommends Shani Darden retinol which is beginner retinol and it definitely would not have eliminated all his wrinkles to 0 if he only used that one forever.
2. He always bashes his skin with extreme over exaggeration like "my eyes are so extremely puffy right now and I have a break out the size of a volcano" and there's literally nothing there on his face. That makes people like me, who actually do suffer with those things, feel like shit and my confidence decreases even further.
3. It's ok to have opinions and preferences when it comes to products you use, but constantly turning down products because of false information (like chemical spfs being reef unfriendly or Polyethylene killing sea life) does not do anyone any favors. It's totally fine to admit you're wrong about this info and still prefer mineral spfs, but stagnant stance which never changes even when there is so much information to state otherwise, for me that's the worst.
my thoughts exactly!
Hyram's skincare is all based on his opinion which is fine and all but the amount of misinformation scares me only because man's has such a great influence over others but he PLAYS TOO MUCH THIS IS SOMEONES SKIN WERE TALKING ABOUT GAHHH
I worked my first job at a drug store at 16 in the beauty section and my title was “skin care specialist” because I read pamphlets on NeoStrata and such lol now that I’m a REAL cosmetology specialist, I realize now I knew NOTHING compared to what I know now. I hate that “specialist” term that he uses. Like why and how do you think you know what you know and feel you can call yourself a specialist? What makes you more informed than the average person? Just be transparent! The fact that he won’t say how he is a specialist makes me not trust a word.
At first I thought "skincare specialist" is something you get a degree for in the US or something. Until someday he mentioned in one of his videos how he doesn't like Rose water because Rose oil is fragrance. I was shocked. I have nothing to do with skincare and I know that rose water and rose oil are *completely* different things. I'm curious to know what he means by "specialist" and who his "clients" are
Yeah as a south Asian when I heard that I unsubscribed. Rose water is a huge part of our culture skin care wise, we’ve been using it for centuries. It’s been proven time and time again to be good for skin. I knew he was full of shit when he said that
rose water is fragrance tho there are no benefits of it
The most obnoxious part about him being the fragrance police is that he knows nothing about essential oils. They aren't just for fragrance. Or aromatherapy. Tea tree oil is an essential oil. There's only one way to extract the ester soluble ingredients...& For fucks sake, sebum has an ester in it.
I hate how people treat him like a dermatologist. He did not go to medical school, and he has not studied skin to a cellular level.
I just found you on utube, and I love watching you! I agree with everything you said! I'm a licensed mental health therapist. If some says "I'm a mental health specialist," they by law need to carry a license to identify themselves that way. I held a part time job at a makeup store and my title was a beauty advisor. Thar doesn't mean I know what a professional knows, I have the basics to guide you. I often used my own experience and led them to speaking with an actual doctor if needed. The filter thing, yeah I don't think someone should filter their face to the point they are poreless. I look forward to watching you more. You are so cute!
awe thank you so much Julie, and thank you for sharing your experience!!
i will say before i started watching hyram, i would feel super itchy after using cetaphil. like dry itchy. i started using cerve, but i’m currently using an even more gentle cleanser. idk what it is, but my skin gets SO angry if i don’t use a SUPER gentle cleanser and a cleansing oil first. but then if i don’t use any moisturizer (not often, ADHD sometimes doesn’t let me complete my self care after i shower) i don’t get very dried out. i don’t have super dry or oily skin. it’s just really sensitive.
the comment about the pH is not wholly accurate. (i do NOT know the full situation, this is just me being nit-picky about science.) I’m a junior in biosystems engineering at one of the top colleges for my major. i’ve taken AP chem, chem 1 and 2, biochemistry (so much stuff about pH), heat and mass transfer, ect. this is a fairly basic concept to my education. lowering the concentration of an acid in the solution would in fact raise the overall pH. there for if you did get an acid burn from a product, you could say the pH was too low or the concentration was too high.
those things being said, i don’t really listen to just one person ever about anything. i agree that hyram is entertaining and informative. however, i also watch other people’s videos about the same topic. if there is varying opinions, i do my own research and use the skills taught to me in various classes to determine what i think the answer should be. i love using hyram to get the basic info about a product and/or learn about new products. as he says, he’s not a dermatologist or aesthetician, therefor i put very little stock into what he says when it comes to the technical side of skin care.
It's always important to remain critical of all of the information you digest and how these products are affecting you personally. I fully support that! It's not ever wise to just take all of your information from one source.
Thanks for sharing your experience, and I can definitely relate to this;
'not often, ADHD sometimes doesn’t let me complete my self care after i shower' !!!
Cheers!
Yeah actually he caused me so much anxiety when I got skin care obsessed during covid. Like so much anxiety and I lost the picture entirely. Now I’ve relaxed a bit and just focus on products it junk will work and enjoy!
Oh my god same! I was stressing myself out before.
The reason why he shits on cetaphil is because he's sponsored (which he doesn't disclose btw) by cerave, one of their biggest competitors
I really like your approach to this video. You are giving constructive criticism while being respectful. 👍
I appreciate that!
Thank god someone is talking about it. We have a lot of doctors or true specialists giving advice on RUclips, I don't get why he and other enthusiastics get more hype.
You should see some of the dumbass/kissass comments his pathetic followers say,, it's like hes their Charles Manson
Someone finally said it, you're brave.
I think Hyram is very honest and he always says at the beginning of every single one of his videos that he is not a professional and that not everyone has to take his words to heart and that they are his personal opinions and how HE decides what products he would use and explains the ingredient list which is very smart to do. I believe he calls himself a specialist because at his job, that's his title. That is not a title he gave himself.
I like that he explains what the scientific words are on the ingredient list, that people tend to skip over, but I love that he explains to simpler terms. Although he does nitpick, but he does so, because he only wants the best for his skin and hopes for his viewers to want the best for their own skin as well. And he does sound like a hypocrite sometimes (i.e. YTTP , fragrance etc), but he does back it up on why he uses it, it's because it's a wash off treatment (which he explains alot in his videos)
Yes he is sponsored, he is also always upfront about brands reaching out to him to review and test, but he will always tell the brands that sponsor him that he will be brutally honest regardless of the free products they give him, which he does, during his videos. I like that he does learn from his mistakes -- especially when his viewers call him out on certain things -- he does admit it when he's wrong because at the end of the day, he is a human after all. He doesn't claim to know everything. What his viewers choose to buy, are ultimately up to them. He simply guides people who are either starting out with skincare or just want more information. He is incredibly humble with a passion for skincare. He introduces tons of brand names and products, there is no way that a single person can use all of them anyways so he is only giving his viewers "options" which isn't wrong. He has also said that yes fragrance can be irritating etc and that some products have alcohol that aren't good for the skin, BUT he also knows that certain people react differently to some products and he says that they can always continue with what works best for them.
Well said Jennifer P. Hyram articulates himself, gives disclaimers where he needs to and explains himself or gives pretext when his opinion varies .... IF Hyram isnt one's cup of tea because one is advanced in their training, then unfollow him , his target market is to the those who want to learn the basics ... so as the trained eye / mind, add content so that we can listen .... I have personally moved on from Hyram but I have respect for what he does, there is a reason why he has a steady and growing fanbase ... I learnt from him when I was starting my skincare , and now I have found dermatologists and I follow them ... and I will keep seeking to learn from anyone who seeks to teach .... Instead of focusing on criticing him , find ways to learn because there is still a lot to learn in skincare ... and I say all this with love and objectivity.
I agree with you because most of his fanbase is always attacking skincare brands like Saint Ives etc I know he is very informational but also I think he should be more respectful. At this point, It's not nice and not professional the way he handles situations.
totally agree! I got a product from St Ives for Christmas and my first thought was 'this is the internet's most hated brand because of Hyram' LOL. But there is no way I am not going to try a watermelon face wash... LOLOL
As someone who doesn’t even wash my face every day I don’t know why I’m here.
LOL it's the honesty for me
I watch hyram and this video was actually so helpful and definitely gave me another perspective, thank you!! 💕💕
Glad it was helpful! I watch all of his videos too, but there are just some things I needed to point out lol. I probably would not have been able to make a nonbiased video with actual details if I wasn't already a fan lol
@@JordanJSparks yes and honestly you did an amazing job! It didn’t sound like you were being rude at all. It was so helpful:))))))
only watched 4 minutes so far (will watch the rest, dw) and so far i completely agree.
i saw this random guy named Hyram getting a lot of views on youtube (good for him !) and he kept showing up in my recommended. i clicked on a video of his but immediately turned away when he said «skincare spesialist».
i already watch Dr Dray and Cassandra Bankson so i’m good.
Cassandra’s definitely my favorite now bc she’s a bit more realistic and relaxed, though i understand Dray’s perspective as a derm seeing the worst case scenarios in her patients.
Cassandra has also pointed out a couple of things that Hyram has been wrong about regarding certain ingredients, at least formaldehyde i believe.
the thing is i have researched a lot of skincare ingredients myself throughout the years so i felt like i literally already knew everything that Hyram was talking about, so i quickly moved on from him once i realized that he had nothing new to teach me
I agree about hyram but Robert is so respectful and nice and had years of actual professional experience outside of RUclips
oh I know that's my point that annoys me about him, don't call someone a Beauty Guru when they have just as much experience as you.
There a lot of hyram fans on this post defending him. I have work in this industry and have train physician assistant and nurses in esthetics procedures. His advice is superficial. most industry professional will agree with it but his advice is not special, .Sure dr.dray like his advice does that make him amazing? In this industry specialist can refer to estheticians, dermatologist, plastic surgeon, and nurses and PA of dermatology/plastic surgery. It is misleading to use that title because he has no formal training ! His advice can be found in magazine articles he is not reading scientific papers. His advice isn't bad but he need to own up with this faults.
personally while watching his videos i have trouble finding what would work for me because i'm a trans man on testosterone and your skin changes like crazy when you start hormone replacement therapy, i've tried lots and lots of skincare that would be considered "hyram approved" (dermatoloical, no perfume, no heavy exfoliation, no essential oils, spf protection etc etc) yet my skin is still really bad because the truth is when your skin is constantly changing as your body adapts to new hormones it's hard to find a routine that works. i wish there were skincare "specialists" that would acknowledge that sometimes, even if you have a good and consistent skincare routine, your skin isn't gonna look good. my skin makes me insecure and when i see some girls around my age being slammed by hyram for their skincare (like summer mckeen) i just imagine all of the people that could make fun of me bc of my acne, and how if i was visible on social media i could be subject to humiliation bc of my skincare routine. he always says he's constructive but i actually find his reactions quite humiliating....
Another video criticising him pointed out the reactions too, and I agree. Also about your issue I’d say speak to your doctor/derm about your issue. Even if you don’t have a derm your hormone doc should be able to help the symptoms
@@II-bn8gc i'm gonna see a dermatologist !! but i feel bad for the people he's reacting to because if i were them i would feel humiliated, even if he says he's doing it to help them. maybe it's because i'm sensitive, but he reacted to charli d'amelio's skincare routine and that girl must not be older than 16 years old and if i were her, especially at her age, i would've felt really awful
@@nathanscore yeah the charli video was too much, and he criticises the people he’s reacting to a lot considering he isn’t qualified
all valid critiques! I was new to skincare when I first started watching him and he made terrified of essential oils. glad I found some other people after I began watching him.
I'm so glad!
@@JordanJSparks Hyram is the Bobby Parrish of skincare
I had to unsubscribe awhile back. I was subscribed to him a bit before his channel took off. He had a good amount of subscribers but nowhere near what he has now and I noticed the shift in his videos. He’s a skincare pusher at best. His fans are also something else, like he can do no wrong, which is such a toxic way to think. I also feel like he does nothing to correct that behavior. It really didn’t sit well with me that he didn’t speak up about the Susan Yara incident. He spoke so highly of her, yet when it was revealed that she was giving her own company’s products stellar reviews without disclosing it was her company, it was crickets from Hyram.
Oh my god as an esthetician who works in a medical setting, THANK YOU for this.
I agree with you so much. I don't have anything personal against him it's just he doesn't have the actual credentials a dermatologist would have. He's a skin care enthusiast at best. It's kind of a slap in the face to people who went to medical school.
I have always thought it was weird that he said the cetaphil cleanser was stripping...I actually stopped using it because I felt like it left a film on my skin. (Combo skin/VERY oily T zone)
yeah I haven't used it in a while but I was always wondering if it was even cleansing enough.
i have combo to oily skin as well and cetaphil stripped the hell out of my skin but my brother uses it daily and his skin loves it. skin is weird lol
@@pykogirl right! so weird! Most cleansers strip my skin my cetaphil is always good for me!
Cetaphil broke me out
Yeah my one criticism of Hyram is that he recommends against using a cleanser with actives like glycolic acid because it's too harsh for your skin but at the same time recommends The Ordinary 30% AHA peel which is super harsh! It all depends on the person but my glycolic acid face wash worked for my skin while the AHA BHA peel destroyed my moisture barrier. I wish I did my research first on that. (And yes I patch tested it with no problems and didn't think I had sensitive skin) oh well at least I know now. It's just better to talk to your own dermatologist before experimenting with products like that and just use your own judgment for what works best for you vs taking a youtuber's advice as gospel
Similar experience! Anything with hyaluronic acid makes my skin peel and dry out like crazy and he rants and raves about products with hyaluronic acid in it because apparently it’s supposed to be hydrating.. like it does not work that way for everyone.
@@TheBlondeInPink But that doesn't happen for a majority of people. For most people, as long as you use a moisturizer immediately after, it works fine. I don't think he should stop talking about how hydrating it is (because it is ; this is confirmed by derms) just because a few people have allergic reactions to it. You can have that reaction to anything. That isn't really his fault.
He doesn't recommend it for every day use. He specifically said that The Ordinary 30%AHA peel should be used once a week at most but he recommends once every 2 weeks.
@@kungfugirl64 I never said he recommended it for everyday use. I've never heard anyone recommend it for everyday use because the instructions say to use it once a week. I followed the instructions to a T and still experienced sensitivity and a damaged moisture barrier. Which is fine, not everyone has a bad experience with that product but I just wish Hyram was more consistent and reasonable with his recommendations.
@@laurenkcole He did warn against using it if you have super sensitive skin though. He always made it clear how strong the product was. I don't have sensitive skin but even I was hesitant to try it because of Hyram's warnings.
As for glycolic cleansers, he's said he doesn't love the ones with high percentages for everyday use. I remember him recommending one with a lower percentage for everyday use but he still said to he careful if you have sensitive skin. You use a cleanser day and night meaning 14 times a week in comparison to the mask which is once a week or twice. It's reasonable that he might not have recommended the glycolic cleansers with a high percentage for everyday use. At the end of the day, he has always said everyone's skin is different and he says this stuff based on what he learns from derms and etc. He never said his word should be taken as gospel so I feel bad for him
i think the reason robert welsh does those videos is because he learnt makeup the traditional way, whereas james charles and manny learnt the sephora/mac/social media/drag way
My friend just became a Makeup Artist the Formal way. She did her entire training in 1 day this past weekend and is now a certified Makeup Artist. Sounds like a TONNE of experience in comparison to people that spent everyday the last 10 years working on makeup... The point being; if you do the exact same job as someone else, don't put yourself on a pedestal.
@@JordanJSparks yeah true, i agree with the not putting yourself on a pedestal
i agree with absolutely everything you talked about in this video it was really well put together as well.
what i don’t like is hyram telling people that their skincare routine is “wrong” or they shouldn’t be using what they’re using. like, skincare is very personal, he doesn’t know their skin type or what they need, who is he to say what they should be doing or not. dermatologists and actual specialists can do that, but only after actually properly getting to know their clients and testing for allergies and stuff like that. who is he to judge someone he hasn’t even met, through a youtube video without knowing anything about the person (their skin type, their history with different products)
for example, me. i have normal to oily skin and i know that if hyram saw my skincare routine he would flame me for it and would tell me everything i'm doing is wrong. i don't use any comercial cleansers or things that are "marketed" as skincare. i wash my face with regular mild soap. and i rarely use moisturizers, all i use is virgin, sweet almond oil, with nothing added to it (from herbal pharmacies - not sure if that would be the proper translation, i am romanian and in my country we have special pharmacies that sell only completely natural products, with no other added ingredients, just herbal remedies). this is the same skincare routine that my mother has, which she learnt from her grandmother. my mother is now 51 years old, and she is just barely now starting to get a few wrinkles around the corners of her eyes. the same with her grandmother, my great-grandma, which sadly passed away at 93. that woman was 93 years old and she looked around 70 years old. skin is influenced by genetics, so that's why i also adopted the same skincare routine, and it does wonders for me. i will not try to change it and waste all of my money on hundreds of skincare productes that are nothing but well-marketed, and won't do anything good for me. i don't care that "that's what everyone does and it's trendy to have a 10 step skincare routine" or shit like that. i am now 19 years old, i have went thruogh puberty and when i was starting to get pimples at around 12, i immediately started doing what my mother told me, and started to use tea tree essential oil. a lot of people say "ohh you're 12, you're too young to care about skincare yet, you should start when you're around 20, that's when your skin would start to age, until then you don't need to do anything to it". but that is not true at all (at least for women in my family), that was their secret, starting young, so you won't even allow the aging process to start. i have went through puberty and haven't ever had to deal with severe acnee. once in a blue moon i would get like, one pimple, but that was it (and it’s mostly because it was that time of the month, so it’s not really much i can do about that, breaking out around that time is normal)
i know that hyram would try to tell me that this is wrong, and i need a special cleanser, and a special serum, and special moisturizer, and blah blah blah, and would try to convince me that i need all those expensive products with thousands o ingredients (which, some can be harmful). when that is absolutely not true for me. this is why i dislike skincare youtubers that try to tell you what to do when they don't know anything about you or your genetics.
this doesn’t mean that i don’t care for skin care or dislike it in any way. i’m actually very interested in it, and sometimes i wish i would do more and use more things simply because skin care to me is very therapeutical. i see it as self care, it makes me feel better. but since i have a skin care routine that i’ve stuck to for years and is working wonderfully for me, i don’t have any reason to change it. i don’t want to risk switching to other products because i might get really bad problems with my skin. i’ve tried a few commercial cleansers when i was younger, and actual face creams for a while, simply because i wanted to have a wider range of products and more steps in my skin care routine because as i said, to me it therapeutical and i felt like i needed to do more, but also because i was young and impressionable and i saw all these youtubers with 10 steps skin care routines, i felt like that was the only “right” way to do it. to this date, it’s the worst thing i’ve ever done for myself. for a short period of time, until i quit that routine and returned to my normal products, i had so many breakouts and i was even left with a bit of acnee scarring. fortunately, i stopped right away and my skin went back to normal and got rid of the discolouration and scarring.
I agree that he is not a profesional skincare specialist on paper. But i do think he knows and learned a lot by educating himself. I know people without a diploma who are better in what they do then people that have a diploma for it.
He really doesn't know very much... seriously. He learns how to pronounce the words & the very basic things you can find on the first page of Google results. I've been really into skincare for years, just trust me, he's really selling himself as knowledgeable. He's absolutely giving more info than what you find on a package, but all his videos are formulated the same way you'd form an engaging sales pitch. Have you noticed he has basically no videos that are just educating on a type of ingredient without plugging a product? He also only plugs certain brands. There's tried & true products that have been winning awards for years that he never mentions. Aside from that, he really isn't very thorough at all with the info, his vitamin C video doesn't even mention the most stable form that's been studied, he only mentions 2. One being the least effective, but very common bc it's very cheap
I actually really enjoy the cetaphil cleanser on days where I didn’t wear heavy makeup... I’ll use it as my second cleanse and my skin feel great after
Hyram has a partnership with CeraVe which pretty much explains his opinion on Cetaphil
@@meandmyllama1021 really? But isn’t he suppose to mention that in the videos?
@@Jivitaa he is supposed but he has a history of not disclosing sponsorships.
I agree with ALL of these points & so many of the comments I’ve read... I found myself not tuning into Hyram about 6 months ago..I just think he’s overly judgmental & sometimes even hypocritical.
And one of my favorite things (and I noticed after a couple of them) When he intros a Reaction Vid for a younger series actor, or maybe a Tik-Toker... He’ll be like, “ OH MY GOD, I have been SO EXCITED to make this video about ‘so&so’!!!! (Totally fan-boying) Now until yesterday- I’d never heard of them, but I think they did a movie~ or was it a Net-.. flix... serieeees????”
And the he’ll mispronounce their name.
Really? You were SO excited about this person you’d NEVER heard of or seen work from?? Um ok.