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One thing you are completely leaving out when ranking these is what else is available at that level. Some of these might go up or down a tier when you see what the other options are. Talents are divided into 3 tiers: level 5-10-15, level 20, 25, 30, 35 and level 40, 45, 50. So effectively have 3 separate pools of talents and you made a tier list as if there was only one pool.
The inconsistency between rating some perks F because someone can craft it for you but at the same time rating another perk A even though again, someone else can craft it for you can be off putting. Solar Drill perk is great but you CAN buy a solar drill from a vendor and you're set for the entire season. Regarding Deluxe storage crate, you cannot make MORE storage past the storage cap, i.e. a specific amount of crates per base allowed. I know because I literally capped out on storage boxes with max stacks in every box I have. A lot of the specializations are meant for playing with friends who spec into different builds. It does not help to have everyone take the same build of your "S tier" stats. I had a friend build his electric furnace with the buffs in my base. For those that do not know, someone else can build their crafting station with perks in your base and it retains its benefits. i have 2 electric furnaces with different boons. Agree on +1 max generators being top tier, and a lot of the F tier perks make sense, but deluxe storage crate is actually a lot better, and stardust mining is good if you have a friend already specced on an oilbase and you are doing a stardust farm for stardust source.
i have ton of perks what build to my base. i have almost everything what you can build. yesterday i just wonder is there anything for synthetic bench? there i have sulfur chemist but - 30% less craft material would be nice or something but don't know if you can have anything for synthetic bench...if someone know i would love to know 😅 acid is kinda expensive to make (make/sell ratio) bc i get same price for my gasoline and pump for free.
This is what I was thinking also. As a certified Loot Goblin I have to disagree with Backpack Expansion going in D tier. SOMEONE has to have it in order to sell it to other players. I cannot keep my vending machine stocked fast enough before they are all sold out. It's S tier if you want to be the supplier.
I'd argue bigger crate is bad. i haveny hot teh cap, i actually deleted two storage crates recently and I'm not hurting for space at all. But I guess if you like to stockpile resources then it's usefull. I'd some crafted items perks (like solar Drill) deserves to be higher if items crated are better. Yeah, you can buy Solar Drill, but you can also sell it, so it turns into another source of money.
for being an tier video based on the newest patch today you seemed to overlook the fix for the super refinery this patch which now makes it S tier imo as you can refine crude into portable fuel at half the time has 2 slots instead of 1 and when combined with the stardust from fuel perk any extra acid you farm only increases your stardust. also Electric Recycling does only metal scrap and electronics, Careful Disassembly does only parts fabrics and plastics..... 2 totally different specials not the same as mentioned in the comments previously storage limit is a thing so the 64 slots help with that. i appreciate your time and effort to put together this list keep up the good work. just please give the correct info on the things mentioned as newer players are easily misinformed
Super refinery is what the name says now... Can refine 2k crude oil at a time or crude oil and portable... and it's half the time to refine it... By far A tier!
definitely S-tier, having plenty of refined fuel = many biomissiles (combined with ample ammunition), you can also trade it to other players for stardust source / energy link.
Super Refinery is now good after the patch. It’s basically the regular refinery but there’s two processing slots in it. It cost 5w more than the regular refinery but the process time for crude to regular and regular to premium is cut in half (30mins). Some of your “tiers” are questionable. You should make a disclaimer to take your list with a grain of salt as most of your takes are not good.
Deluxe Storate Crate definitely A tier for me, love having just 1 chest where I can dump all resources into after a long run looting towns getting 100%+ load.
Meta spec is basically Sulphur Chemist and Biomass Missile +2 yield. Sulphur Chemist essentially gives you unlimited Acid for perma tungsten + AP ammo (make sure buy a 3 perk Furnace and 2 perk workbench). You need 5k EL to craft 99 acid but you run the world event Chiron once per hour for 22k EL. If you can't get Sulphur Chemist you can do an acid farm... but it'll be slow. Biomass Missile +2 yield allows you to craft the missiles extremely cheap to guarantee 1300+ points in ANY PRIME WAR Fill the remaining spec points with whatever you want... I would recommend anything that is a formula and/or anything that gives +1 yield, followed by facility boosts (remember you can buy boosted facilities off people). Early on I'd probably invest in a money maker spec like Gold Ingots or Crystal or Chipset Combo and sell to other players in the first 2 weeks of the season (after maxing out NPC EL limit) then switch it out to something else with a reset later on (make enough of the previously mentioned items to last through 6 weeks in terms of NPC EL limit)
@@vhalaapoe1194 3 perk furnace = Power consumption -50%, Crafting time -60%, Resource consumption -30%, Smelting time -30% when smelting copper, bronze, steel, alumium and tungsten, Doubles yield when smelting Aluminium and Tungsten. 2 Perk workbench = Yield 30% more when crafting AP ammo and crafting time -50%, Crafting output 50% more when crafting regular ammo. There's a 3rd perk which is +1 for every activator crafted. Essentially with the double yield tungsten AND increased crafting AP and regular ammo output, you get more out of your acid per unit. Combine it with the Sulphur Chemist perk, you essentially can make yourself the cheapest ammo, and a ton of it. So, consider the following scenario: The advanced synthesis bench makes 198 acid per 8 hours for 10k EL (with sulphur chemist spec) 99 acid and 297 tungsten ingots produce 26730 Tungsten regular ammo at the 2 perked workbench Let's assume you run the event Chiron once a day (you can actually do it once per hour for full legend rank rewards), which gives you 22,000 EL and 60 Acid. This means you can run two synthesis benches to make 396 acid per 8 hours for 20k, and you're still 2k EL ahead. If you run another Chiron in another hour you get another 22k EL and another 60 acid. Basically ACID is no longer a concern with Sulphur chemist; you can even move onto Tungsten AP ammo easily. Your main concern at that point is Electronic Parts if you're running Shrapnel if you want SMART ammo (so you should get electronic grabbers and the electronic disassembly spec) You need sulphur? Eat mining food (Canned Seafood in Oil) and solar drill some suphur nodes east of the map for 10 minutes.
Deluxe storage crate is A or S tier. Not everyone likes depositing your farmed resources into 10 different storage crates each time you return to your base.
People underestimate how much of a time saver it is having one big storage. I got the 64 crate as my first spec and from lv5 to 50 I only had one chest until I started hoarding mats, which I still only have 4 right now holding every other material and another 3 each filled with 64 stacks of biomissiles.
@@kingcupcakes5171 same here, i have 3 but burned alot of resources getting a passive acid farm and doing dungeons. still only need 4 just cause its really nice to have.
stack your boxes on top of each other I feel like is the easiest way. To open you only need your crosshair to point at the crate. to use a memetic spec on extra space seems like a waste of space
It seems like nobody saw it (in the comments) but you're missing a point. You cannot compare all specs together (like compare 1 to any other 1), specs are random I agree but they drop in specific place of the memetic, for exemple "Bed : A Place to Call Home" is droping only in the first 3 specs choices (level 5-10-15). And so, to do a better tier list you had to compare specs with other that are in the same "pack" otherwise it dosen't make sense. I've not fully watch the video for the moment but it seems that is possible for you to say that we should pick more specs than allowed in a "pack". Note : Memetics specialization worked like that before the (1 august) patch, I don't know if its still work the same
Or at the least make note of what slots those perks fit into so the one good perk at lower levels isn’t throws away for the sake of things that can’t be in that slot.
There are definitely specs that are "better" than others in those tier brackets, generally. But pairing specific buffs together can also make up for someone that gets unlucky with options. Don't forget when you check your specs before making a choice, they are locked into those 4 or 5 choices per level bracket (can't remember how many options each spec gives by default). But you can always come back to them later to lock in if you want to wait and see what else you roll in the next 5-10 levels or so. Easy example are the generators, they have different ones split across the tiers. But the majority give out +1 genny in your base, if you can stack any of the solar, hydro, bio in the first 30 levels then you're already locked in to 7-8 gens and people will pay you just to drop them in their base. Just take your time picking and don't insta lock anything unless it is a-s tier for your playstyle.
fun fact about the furnace efficiency’s, they stack additively, so if you have 50% and 60%, you craft stuff instantly. i can craft thousands of glass and bricks in one furnace, in maybe 20 seconds
Disagree with the D class on the large storage crate perk. We are capped on items we can place @250. Having bigger storage would cut down massively on the number of boxes I have to place in my base. For me its B tier at least if not C.
Yeah, Large storages are godsent if you are absolutely loaded on mats. I have one warband mate who had to turn their truck into extra storage and get backpack slot just to carry all they got. Theyre huge tradesperson too, raking in millions every week from trade.
PVP'er here. I'll give my 2 cents on Frontier view of things. We'll preface by saying that structures are there to slow down attackers as they need to blow up their way with C4 to a resonator. Basic: defense: The sandbags and other fortifications is definitely D-tier. Claymore mines: Not often used since most mixed explosives get used to making C4. Not to mention easy to spot, BUT even purple claymore cheekily placed can ruin a day. I'd be generous and place it on the C tier. Spectral cloak. Invisibility is amazing. Though in PvP we got two whim potions: Parapsychology and Predator. The first one gives you a warning when enemy meta is aiming at you, the second one gives you also an invisiblity. Cannot run the two whims at same time though since it's from same deviant. B or C, depending on your playstyle. Stardust barrier: Can be useful in coordinated assault/defenses, I'd say C. Never seen it used though. Explosives on the go AND exposive sack AND explosive throwback: Nailed there. Definitely A if not S. More C4 to use basically. Flamethrower trap: F in PVP too. Static defenses gonna be mostly rifles, maybe at times one shotgun. Turrets aren't that great at killing metas but metas are pretty amazing at killing turrets. So you want as much range from your turrets as possible in most bases. Furnace sintering: The amount of bricks you need is TOO DAMN high. Having one sinterer in warband makes preparing strongholds a lot faster and easier. B Stardust regulator: I'd go with B. SUPER strong, but with TTKs being so low and reg's cooldown being so high, it won't make you a juggernaut. Stonestructures: B in PVP too. The extra HP puts stone stuff above reinforced by 800, which is basically 2 more C4s. High powered warheads: Absolutely sexy. A. Lets you demolish better from safer distance. Bit expensive so can't spam it like C4 Ultra grenade: Considering grenades seem to do reduced damage to structures anyways.. C just because C4 exists. Reinforced structure: healing: I'd go with C. The healing MIGHT be useful before wars when cheeky scouts are seeing if they can make their attacks easier, but honestly. If meta wants to blow a hole, they can do it relatively fast. --- Non PVP related 2 cents Also, the efficiency lover DOES drop the power consumption by 50% WHICH can he huge if RNG isn't blessing you with good power related perks. Granted, worst of the furnace perks though. I'd say stardust mining platform has it uses. It's 20% yield on everything when it's in polluted zone AND you don't need to put any points to grab a mining platform. Unfortunately mining platforms seem little iffy to use, sometimes just randomly not doing anything, sometimes you log in and just swim in whatever resource you picked it to mine. Gold pickaxe might pair nicely with the food that makes you mine with single hit.. But still, worth it over solar drill? Probably not.
Gear workbench, along with other building related perks, are great if you have more people who can cover other perks. In fact you can just ask people who have this specific perk to craft this specific building in your base and it will have the perk buffs as long as you don't destroy it. This also includes power generators and they can build it over your cap.
"someone can just make those for you" everyone: "yep, not picking that trash spec" world chat: "who got this spec for sale?" also world chat: "we didn't pick that spec coz we can just buy it from someone so we were hoping you picked it"
There is always someone sir :) Especially if you want to profit That being said even if you don't have the things "someone else can make" it is no "loss"
7:33 crystal transformation is a GOAT it safe people a lot of times to get platinum crystal for repairing weapon, crafting backpack expansion etc. 12:45 stardust mining platform is good you can just go to blackfell have oil and stardust on one location in normal day with lv 3 digby I can get 1k/day/mining platform pair it with oil processing and art of stardust decay to make acid out of thin air i know it is good to use sulfur chemist but it optional remember out of thin air
Super refinery actually doubles your yield when turning mixed fuel into premium fuel, so far from useless, also advanced electric drill gathers more than the solar drill
You are missing what levels you can get specific specializations, and you should rank in your opinion not only what you think is S tier in a group but S tier solo. Deluxe Storage Crate is easily S tier if you're solo and S tier if at least one person in your hive has it. If 2 people have it yeah, its trash but it does complicate the list. I feel like you almost need 3 lists as well as an active Hive that would work together as if someone weren't selling something or only one person is selling something it can easily become a monopoly lol. Overall, this list is pretty solid and I'm very appreciative of this google doc, time and effort put in!
Thats one reason and another reason why I would rate photon power higher is that you aren't bound to a building place and you don't have to burn sth. They are just there and you get the power for free, everywhere.
@@Marcus_Aurelion_Sol You get an extra two generators from regular memetics so that would be 4+2 with a total of 6 In theory you could have a total of 9 Generators with all the relevant perks.
Great list and appreciate your efforts. I would suggest ranking these tiers but also separating low level memetics , (ie ones you get offered at level 5 and 10) vs mid level and high levels ones.
Your Guides are very helpful, thank you for that. I have a question maybe it is worth a video? What should i do when the 6 week cycle ends. Is there somehting you can do with remaining ressources? Are there things that not get transferd automatically? Basically what is the most reasonable thing to do to save the most amount of stuff either into the eternal realn or into the next season?
Week 6 will basically be the final phase to prepare for next season will have to wait for details about actual phase 6 before I can spread all the information
Electric Drill: Treasure Hunt on a regular Advanced drill has me absolutely rolling in Stardust, Silver and Gold when combined with canned fish. People overrate the Solar Drill but maybe just because its able to be sold.
You overlooked the fact that red plasmas are required for nightmare wars, but you can also get the memory fragments for them pretty easily, still an A tier
Giving backpack expansion F tier is a massive L take It's cheap to make, ALWAYS useful, +80 load and not everyone plays with others. His logic is dumb af, should be S tier. Also portable fridge is great, esp when farming or moving large amount of ingredients. Canned food doesn't magically appear. Another underrated tiered spec. Not everyone has their chat providing them with free backpack specs lmao bro.
Just tp home every time you get full on backpack, it's literally free and tp back again and farm. What are you doing with having permanently using 100 on load anyways. If you want to argue having Bio missiles or plasma, just bring them when going to PW's it's not that hard. I've played solo for 100 hours and never once needed backpack expansion because I always dissasemble / depo every run. Even multiple Silo runs doesn't even need backpack expansion pack.
@@Drae_mon L take. 60% load is no joke. I've got 300 hours with LEA solo and giant solo with no deaths and all wars done. But sure bro. Try carrying red plasma and consistently getting top 3 and let me know how your overloaded backpack is. 100 hrs is rookie hours boy
@@shinzoux5912 It's not about the hours isn't it? Also getting top 3 in PW's isn't better at getting top 5 if you all get the same boxes. Just go shoot your red plasma and it's out of your backpack, not sure what you want to do with the red plasma just lingering in your backpack.
Dont know if its updated, but the Gatling Cannon: Power Blast DOES deal bonus damage on shields with missiles! And also works for other players when they use your cannon. It's only the durability recover that doesnt function since its not in your territory. so id say its a S tier perk to grab! Just so ya'll know!
There are so many useless perks that all 4 options for half of the specialties was choosing the least worthless of the bunch. Glad i got to replace the worthless portable fridge for sulfur chemist. Super refinery just got patched yo be able to process crude and can take 2 stacks of 1k each. I also think it processes at twice the speed. So for 15 watts to process 4 barrels of crude an hour where you need 40 watts for the regular refineries.
Really interesting video as always ! Thanks for the hard work ! (for all the videos, not only this one!). Just a little suggestion, even though we can find it online, it would have been convenient to put them by availability tier (lazy a** here lol). Maybe for the next patch update!
I've seen some folk say that the chipset perk is better than the gold/silver perk but would have to disagree as while it is easier to get the bits to craft them you get more mileage from smelting the gold & silver. Oh but the bars sell for less to a vendor, doesn't matter because each one has a cap and its easier to juggle the numbers by selling a lower cost item. If you offer smelting for tips or an exchange of ore for bars with a small extra factored in you will find that you don't even need to spend much time mining for yourself. I'm in a similar mind over the normal vs solar drills, the increased ore from a standard drill is far more useful since it pairs better with the food and means less time required for mining trips. Some of the perks just seem like placeholders for things to come or put on a back burner, diving gear being one and the disease cleansing another. There's medications for colds but I don't think I've ever actually seen a place where you're at risk of the sniffles, even if that perk covered sanity it wouldn't be that impressive because of the booze option and sanity only reducing health isn't a huge deal. I'd love it if low sanity had players get strange noises and visuals like Eternal Darkness but we only get lowered max hp and not even a slightly skewed camera.
Your tier list is great - would be the best if it also included the levels at which you could obtain them - that way we can try min/max and not waste resets on slots that cant roll certain Specializations
The art of stardust decay is pretty good because if you can make stardust yourself you it’s actually better than sulfur chemistry because it is way faster to craft the acid and you don’t have to waste el. But the perk alone ain’t anything fancy but with a combo high tier.
Who wrote this google doc? Super refinery QUADRUPLES the efficiency of making premium fuel and it's D tier? Premium fuel is the biggest gate and that's the strongest perk for it by a LOT.
Great video! Been looking for a good tier list for these for a while. I would say, the gear durability perk is somewhat useful for those running builds with 0 reload. I'm using Icy Rain frost vortex and that little shit breaks every 30min if I'm grinding bosses. Would be a good quality of life, I think. You can also craft the mechanical hand thing from the deviant that repairs your lowest durability weapon/gear piece but it's a little pricey to use often. I carry a few for emergencies so as to not slow down the grind with friends. Also if you're 0 reload, the S tier perks to ammo production ARE. A. MUST.
*TIP* - Synthesis Bench: Recycle & Reuse adding +1 usage to Portable MG Turrets and Scout Drones stacks with the +5 usage specs for each. And seriously, these things hit surprisingly hard for being consumables as they scale with your own PSI, not just an arbitrary number, and also can apply Bull's Eye with the Invisible Hunter spec, and/or Power Surge with the Orb Lightning whim potion.
I took Scout Drone Invisible Hunter just out of curiosity. I still had respec points so why not test stuff. So freaking cool! I highly suggest checking this one out if you haven't!
6:28 the barrier works good because it blocks a lot of damage and if you stand behind it or near “i think” it reduces damage taken as well. I been using it and it does help and since the team can use it and it’s easy to make, this is something i just setup and use real quick if i have the chance because in harder modes there’s a lot of adds and raised defenses protect you from swarms.
I'd have to say I disagree on the super refinery. it IS in fact faster than a regular refinery in converting Fuel into Premium fuel, and does it with half the fuel. The regular refinery requires 50 portable fuel per 1 premium, and requires an hour. The super refinery requires only 25 portable fuel per premium and does so in 30 minutes. This means a super refinery produces 2x as much premium fuel in the same amount of time/portable fuel as a regular refinery. The biggest problem with the super refinery, however, is that it cannot turn crude oil into portable fuel which means if you want a pipeline of Oil > Portable fuel > Premium fuel --you need both types of refinery for maximum production and that eats a *lot* of power--. So much so that I'm not even certain a single base can fully make use of the speed of the super refinery without going all in on power perks. So for that alone, I'd probably put the super refinery in the C if not B tier if only because of the bonus to your passive premium fuel generation, but that is -only- if you're on an actual oil-producing area. That said, even the best refinery set up is insignificant compared to simply farming extraction permits which hands out premium fuel like candy. *Updated for post August patch* The Super refinery just got boosted even more, now that it's also able to turn crude oil into portable fuel, still at a 10:5 ratio but in only 30 minutes, instead of an hour. So one super refinery can go through 20 crude oil per hour instead of just 10. Simultaneously they can also work on converting portable fuel into premium, meaning for 5 water pumps you only need a total of 3 super refineries to convert all the crude oil into portable fuel -and- convert that portable fuel into premium fuel seamlessly. Opposed to having 5 regular refineries + 1 super refinery.
It might be worth mentioning that if you get perks like Careful Disassembly or anything that allows you to make an improved crafting bench you can craft that bench for friends in their territory and they can benefit from it without needing the perk.
Furthermore, if you intend to respec one of these perks, you can craft it and maybe a few extra and the perk will stay on the production facility even after you remove the specialization.
8:20 Took the crate perk as a L because it was best one i rolled at level 10... then we ran out of storage options at the group base for my warband and I fixed it by swapping standard crates for deluxe. Came in clutch.
I actually skipped S-Tier (as Beginner) and I think that was good, because for the very first season, I wanted to go in blind, make my own decisions and not efficience the c out of the game and be bored. Because that is what's happening with most people when they follow lists and "best in slot"-guides. Myself? Well, I like to farm ressources, produce goods and build bases. That's why I am always restless and re-designing my base. Never sold anything since on my beginner server nobody buys stuff - not to my knowledge. Well, I am a lone wolf and doing all the things solo efficiently is making me happy ^^ Thank you P4wny. Stay crunchy
I believe they fixed Gatling Cannon: Power Blast specialization in a recent update. My bio missiles used to do only 15k on a Gatling 2. Now they do 19500 on prime war bosses.
As a complete new player who started like 2-3 weeks ago I have taken Biomass Missile less weight and + 2 yield, Solar Drill, Disassembly Bench: Careful Disassembly, Backpack expansion(was this or the ore,logs etc weigh less and I assumed the backpack would be more usefull) and at last the electronic grabber. Im lvl 27 atm. Good to see I have some iq when it comes to picking decent/good stuff. Reading the comments it seems the Backpack expansion might be lucrative bizznizz
You can use spectral cloak to run through silos in stealth! It will cancel your stealth mode once you attack, but you will get back to it after you are out of combat. The whole thing lasts 120s. You could bypass all the annoying mobs in silo runs, just taking out elites and important mobs.
you ARE german? what the hell man, you dont sound like. thanks for all the GREAT GREAT, nah, SUPERB content. Had a lot of games with content creators that didnt put half the effort into anything than you did. Always know the facts, always provide the sheets and stuff. DANKE DIR, cooler Typ!
the 64 slot storage crate one is good for base builders because there is a cap on how many things you can put down in the base. so if you can put down 1 crate that takes the spot of 2 crates that is more of other things you can add to the base. i like making epic looking bases that function on there own for the most part and the normal crates take up to many base spots lol
I noticed Chef's Knife was not included in the list. Unlock new formula: Chef's knife When in your Backpack, meat yield +1 when field dressing animals, with a 30-60% chance to yield additional products. Thanks for the vid
28:00 the double drone usage is surprisingly useful as yes the turrrete are nice but the basic drone is spammable with a way lower resource cost and as it flies less aiming issues. Not got the +5 drone use and don’t know what their it’s in but I’ll take both if I get the chance. Turret is handy for wave-defence, drones useful al at times as it can effectively let you shoot around corners and this is not an ability to be underestimated even in a game with nominally brain dead Ai
the reason you don't just make another storage crate is because you're maxed out on facility slots with a semi-decent fuel- and acid production (and the including pumps to run it 24/7) and a decently sized farm. you don't necessarily have to have it yourself but having some people be able to place those boxes for others within a warband or hive is incredibly valuable if you want to min-max your passive production.
Thx a ton for that list really helpful for newbies like me. BTW just got Sulfur Chemist today exactly as I was struggling with Acid - looks like newbie luck :)
Hey guys ! Just keep in mind that currently, the only available scenarios are classed "beginner" level. Eventually a lot of specializations that seem "useless" now could be more than welcome to complete harder scenarios ✌
Watch out! Tier list heavily focused on PVE Servers, some Must Have specializations for PVP servers are rated C or even D, and some completely useless Specializations for PVP servers are rated S. Nonetheless this tier list still helps new people with the basic notions of what they should look for. Great video.
all the specs that "sell to vendor for energy links" are F-tier. its very easy to max vendor sales with food. my power generators are bugged and i have 10/8 in my base currently lol - the specs giving +2 generators until today. i was able to place 10 generators in my friends base as well so its like he doesnt even need the perks - it definitely helps to play with other people. also, the sulfur chemist is 8 hour conversion, not 4. very good spec but can easily be placed by someone else for you. in fact, almost all of these can be built by someone else making specs that offer personal buffs more S-tier than anything you could just pay for.
I want to alert you to a very important matter that many may not have cared about, please like the comment so it reaches I was using the normal refinery that everyone has and which gives you 5 fuel every hour But the super refinery, which you said is useless, it is true that it consumes 15 watts, it can also produce 20 fuel every hour, which really saved me while playing with my friends But if you are alone in the world, the normal refinery is fine I agree with everything you said except for the super refinery, actually let me say something I now have 6 weapons in the max CALIPRITION, I mess around a lot with the blueprints, I give my friends 1000 stardust source every day, I sell a lot, I have 1.5m energy link, and we are still in the third week :) If it wasn't for the super I wouldn't be able to do this ^^ It's sad to see useless features like this, and when I get them as drops after fighting a monster, believe me I wouldn't give up a point for this feature!, Really useless I hope it will be fixed soon, if these useless features were usable (without any points) maybe, I might use them ^
I also want to tell you something, which is that many features that other players can build for you, are not useless but not worth it. For example, the oven that gives you double glass and bricks, you can easily find someone to build an oven in your house for a small fee or even for free, and enjoy the feature ^ With my friends, we were able to get many advantages and exchange among ourselves. I hope that the situation continues like this because if they cancel this matter, it will really be a big loss because 80% of those spicialzitin are useless
You also need to post item requirements. If it’s supposed to be detailed you need a list of items required to make said items including if the mats can be swapped out to give a better understanding of what people will need when choosing said specs.
The Rare Crystal Set is perfectly fine because you get far more lower tier crystals than you could possibly need, since the stuff you need a lot of is T5. If you haven't gotten a "sellable valuables" spec yet and that pops up, it's a good option, since T2 crystals (lowest tier) sell for the same 12k Energy as T5s would.
Great vid!!! This is great, but must consider: SOMEONE needs to get those "don't get, buy" memerics and craft to sell.. I'd put some of them higher on the list. It's been a month, can we get an updated version? now with ahrd servers and all. Make a new one so we can keep this one for the normal PVE server fans as well.
about the large storage crate is that the amount of crates you can put in your base is LIMITED. just found that out yesterday, so the perk could be very good if you are a horder like me
23:42 strike by lightning, is a PvP perk, for when they shoot surge on you, there is a every 20 hit you get hit by lightning, so you get heal instead of damage from that =D S tier PvP perk.
Moonlight mining is actually on par with a t2 solar drill when using a tungsten pickaxe. Drill yield is slightly more during the day, but less at night. T3 solar drill is still better, but moonlight mining isn't as bad as people think.
Super Refinery makes changing fule into premium fuel cost 25 per instead of 50. it also gives you 2 spots to convert per refinery for 15 power instead of 1 for 10. so it is 33% more power efficent and the cost of making fule/premium fuel is 50% less.
Super refinery is actually really good in my opinion. It means you don't need a spot for oil. All you need is a polluted area and you can get acid and premium fuel.
Should have made a separate tier for PVP perks for those people who play in PVP servers. Thanks for the tierlist though, very know league and as always watching your guides are enjoyable!
So here is something he isn't talkung about that well but how some specs combo making them better then solo. Get the 30% less resources used ant 30% less time for ingots + double ingot perk+ 50% more ammo= around 40000 rifle rounds from one stack of crafted ingots for the price of 70 ingots. How this works is you make a full stack of 99. It only costs you about what it would for 70 ingots with the 30% resource discount. But when you pull them out after crafted you get 198 ingots instead due to the double craft. Now you craft the bullets with the 198 will say 11800 bullets for 99. Yet with the 50% more some how it come out to 19 -20k bullets. But since you craft all 198 it comes out to about 40k bullets. You can do similar math for ap ammo but bit they have other restrictions. Now why 50% more bullets is closer to double i don't know..... maybe a translation error or a coding error?
all of the upgraded building ones, they’re on any building you make, so like i have 4 specs for my furnaces, best in my server, so i sell my furnaces to people. so keep in mind others when getting specs, try to get ones that synergize. just because you don’t get meta specs, doesn’t mean you have bad specs, and imo 4 synergized specs are better than 4 non synergized meta specs
Since you have to reconstruct facility buildings maybe you could get some of these perks then re-roll them, then just never deconstruct your benches or furnace
The upgraded refinery since they fixed the issue with oil not being able to be put in it isn't the worst thing in the world. As its double streamed and uses 5 less power compared to using 2 regular refineries I can pump out more fuel. I use this with the perk to turn stardust ore and fuel to stardust source and have like 200k+ stardust source at anyone time. I can use the fuel to trade for acid or whatever else I need - however I don't need that much acid since biomissiles dont require acid and I double proc on Aluminium and tungsten meaning less refining.
the spectral cloak is actually really good for running silos, it allows you to skip most mobs without getting hit. and the chipset is mostly useless, energy isnt an issue in any point of the game, and end game youll have millions form just doing content.
Kind of tip for eternal land stuff. Stardust source and acid sell for 1 sand each. However with the stardust source to crystals you can make the lvl 41 to 50 crystal and sell 1 crystal for 500 sand a piece.
Personally, I'd raise all the foods specializations one tier higher. Between perishable & canned goods, perishables just have more buffs. Roasted & Dried is good early whereas Mini Cans are great late because they have different effects & yields, which meets your demands at the current play. Early on, I got Moonlight Axe & Forest Foe. My wife got all the building ones. We play the game for different reasons.
In general, recipe > building > buff item. It is simply much easier to buy an item from a vending machine than get someone to come to your base every time you need to build something. I think money perks are not needed, but they may let you get extra money for less effort early in the season. There are some really good cooking recipes for farming money from vendors. Any item perk is better buying from someone else. The biggest offender is solar drill where you need both perks to be worth anything. I don't like that they turned the specialization system in to something to be traded. It only highlights how flawed it is. Most of the perks are just useless, if not broken.
Storage crate is amazing, I have so much loot... I needed the 64 storage crate. You're capped on amount of storage crates being able to place. Gravel is AMAZING if you play in PvP servers. You need to build in frontiers every 2 days and require A LOT of materials.
Power Generator: Stardust Unleashed - if you took 2 other perks to have + 2 gens, you can first put deviation generators (8) and then switch with fragments to this one, then you'll have 392w. So it depends :) Edit: Since you have 3 switches to fragments, you can switch +2 gens 1 to this one, another to something more useful ) Edit2: But not sure if you really need that much power :)
Shells count as "meat" and give 100 to Biomass generators so you can just go on beach, mine shell rocks for 10min and have energy for 8 days. (Spare shells can be used to make fertilizer.)
The golden knife is great if your running: jaws unstable bomber build. You get the +% damage from the cradle tactical weapon perk and get + damage from unstable bomber trigger.
the perks that upgrade a crafting station can always be good because if 1 person in your Hive has it than you all do cause they can just come over and craft you the upgraded workstation
Gourmand effect bonus doesn't actually increase anything except the energy/hydration of the food/drinks. Tested with Canned Meat, Gourmand gives the same amount of max HP. I think you're sleeping on Brain Freeze, Ice Tea + sanity restoring ingredient leads to some spicy rolling and you don't have to run Corn Ale anymore.
Super refinery is a must for fuel farming. Water pumps pump the crude oil, refinery break down crude to portable fuel, portable fuel turns into premium fuel. It's a must in fuel production
To add onto the missile perks, if you have the +2 craft, take red plasma or the other one, the specialisation for +2 applies to the other specialisation missiles, or so I've been told.
About Improved compound fertilizer...The only way I would see to use it is to plant the plants yourself and then have the Mushroom pick them up. That deviant doesn't use fertilizer, and I am not even sure if the effect of this fertilizer will still work once the Mushroom collects them, hopefully.
From farming for several weeks now with the deviant, it does not use while planting, but the plants it harvest after you planted manually with fertilizer do get the benefit from it. So I just keep manually planting my 96 plots and let the mushroom collect it all when it's done. Mushrooms can also randomly grow into the Growshroom in your plots, it's how I got 2 extra so far.
Sry for the Media Offline flash at the beginning - will have to change my recording format to avoid this in the future 👍 thanks for making me aware
Timestamps would help as well
time stamps would be dope. also your vids are great. Keep it up!
I went full detective mode on that frame flashing up thinking there is something hidden in this video xD
Sir, rewind a bit.
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Rewind again.
Slow down the video.
Increase window size.
Activating zoom.
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Sir its just an error... back to gaming...
@@Notfallhamster You can go into the spreadsheet in the description and just ctrl+f to search for the specific spec.
One thing you are completely leaving out when ranking these is what else is available at that level. Some of these might go up or down a tier when you see what the other options are. Talents are divided into 3 tiers: level 5-10-15, level 20, 25, 30, 35 and level 40, 45, 50. So effectively have 3 separate pools of talents and you made a tier list as if there was only one pool.
The inconsistency between rating some perks F because someone can craft it for you but at the same time rating another perk A even though again, someone else can craft it for you can be off putting. Solar Drill perk is great but you CAN buy a solar drill from a vendor and you're set for the entire season.
Regarding Deluxe storage crate, you cannot make MORE storage past the storage cap, i.e. a specific amount of crates per base allowed. I know because I literally capped out on storage boxes with max stacks in every box I have.
A lot of the specializations are meant for playing with friends who spec into different builds. It does not help to have everyone take the same build of your "S tier" stats. I had a friend build his electric furnace with the buffs in my base. For those that do not know, someone else can build their crafting station with perks in your base and it retains its benefits. i have 2 electric furnaces with different boons.
Agree on +1 max generators being top tier, and a lot of the F tier perks make sense, but deluxe storage crate is actually a lot better, and stardust mining is good if you have a friend already specced on an oilbase and you are doing a stardust farm for stardust source.
I dont think Groups need to be considered in a tier list, since most play solo anyway.
i have ton of perks what build to my base. i have almost everything what you can build. yesterday i just wonder is there anything for synthetic bench? there i have sulfur chemist but - 30% less craft material would be nice or something but don't know if you can have anything for synthetic bench...if someone know i would love to know 😅 acid is kinda expensive to make (make/sell ratio) bc i get same price for my gasoline and pump for free.
This is what I was thinking also. As a certified Loot Goblin I have to disagree with Backpack Expansion going in D tier. SOMEONE has to have it in order to sell it to other players. I cannot keep my vending machine stocked fast enough before they are all sold out. It's S tier if you want to be the supplier.
I think the storage crate limit is 20 crates atm, this limit also includes weapon and gear boxes.
I'd argue bigger crate is bad. i haveny hot teh cap, i actually deleted two storage crates recently and I'm not hurting for space at all. But I guess if you like to stockpile resources then it's usefull.
I'd some crafted items perks (like solar Drill) deserves to be higher if items crated are better. Yeah, you can buy Solar Drill, but you can also sell it, so it turns into another source of money.
Regarding the custom crates, theres an upper limit to how many you can place so having more space per chest is actually better
I got this. Made the chests then reset my choice and still have the chests
@@cam_p_bells goat, i made like 10+ of them sitting in my attics before i reset just in case
@@ringo3650 great minds think alike
Yeah, it's easily s tier, especially when you're gathering early.
Couldn't say it any better.
for being an tier video based on the newest patch today you seemed to overlook the fix for the super refinery this patch which now makes it S tier imo as you can refine crude into portable fuel at half the time has 2 slots instead of 1 and when combined with the stardust from fuel perk any extra acid you farm only increases your stardust.
also Electric Recycling does only metal scrap and electronics, Careful Disassembly does only parts fabrics and plastics..... 2 totally different specials not the same
as mentioned in the comments previously storage limit is a thing so the 64 slots help with that.
i appreciate your time and effort to put together this list keep up the good work. just please give the correct info on the things mentioned as newer players are easily misinformed
A lot of the info on this channel seems more biased to his own playstyle, like you mentioned the changes to crude refining alone are massive.
Super refinery is what the name says now... Can refine 2k crude oil at a time or crude oil and portable... and it's half the time to refine it... By far A tier!
definitely S-tier, having plenty of refined fuel = many biomissiles (combined with ample ammunition), you can also trade it to other players for stardust source / energy link.
Which is better electronic recycling or careful disassembly?
@PolPot-ef1qq i also don't know, didn't hit any limit yet lol
Specialization memory fragment can be used to replace one of existing specialization, so we are still at 10 max :)
Super Refinery is now good after the patch. It’s basically the regular refinery but there’s two processing slots in it. It cost 5w more than the regular refinery but the process time for crude to regular and regular to premium is cut in half (30mins). Some of your “tiers” are questionable. You should make a disclaimer to take your list with a grain of salt as most of your takes are not good.
I will not stand for that Deluxe Storage Crate slander.
i know right! same with backpack expansion! im a fucking loot hoarder!
Agreed. I make more money with less hassle from selling players the crates over the acid
@HG-nc5ku those you can buy n to resell then it's not worth much so wouldn't waste a perk on
@@HG-nc5ku I've been selling backpack exp. for 10k EL. I was really shock when he put it on F tier because a lot of players is looking to buy one.
Deluxe Storate Crate definitely A tier for me, love having just 1 chest where I can dump all resources into after a long run looting towns getting 100%+ load.
Meta spec is basically Sulphur Chemist and Biomass Missile +2 yield.
Sulphur Chemist essentially gives you unlimited Acid for perma tungsten + AP ammo (make sure buy a 3 perk Furnace and 2 perk workbench). You need 5k EL to craft 99 acid but you run the world event Chiron once per hour for 22k EL. If you can't get Sulphur Chemist you can do an acid farm... but it'll be slow.
Biomass Missile +2 yield allows you to craft the missiles extremely cheap to guarantee 1300+ points in ANY PRIME WAR
Fill the remaining spec points with whatever you want... I would recommend anything that is a formula and/or anything that gives +1 yield, followed by facility boosts (remember you can buy boosted facilities off people).
Early on I'd probably invest in a money maker spec like Gold Ingots or Crystal or Chipset Combo and sell to other players in the first 2 weeks of the season (after maxing out NPC EL limit) then switch it out to something else with a reset later on (make enough of the previously mentioned items to last through 6 weeks in terms of NPC EL limit)
Yarrr sir! They are just too good in any way
sorry to ask, what is a ( 3 perk Furnace and a 2 Perk workbench) ?
@@vhalaapoe1194 it's the 3 perk buffs on the furnace, and 2 buffs on the workbench
I have this and just spamming the biomass missle. Waiting for missles to be tradable to make them marketable.
@@vhalaapoe1194 3 perk furnace = Power consumption -50%, Crafting time -60%, Resource consumption -30%, Smelting time -30% when smelting copper, bronze, steel, alumium and tungsten, Doubles yield when smelting Aluminium and Tungsten.
2 Perk workbench = Yield 30% more when crafting AP ammo and crafting time -50%, Crafting output 50% more when crafting regular ammo.
There's a 3rd perk which is +1 for every activator crafted.
Essentially with the double yield tungsten AND increased crafting AP and regular ammo output, you get more out of your acid per unit.
Combine it with the Sulphur Chemist perk, you essentially can make yourself the cheapest ammo, and a ton of it.
So, consider the following scenario:
The advanced synthesis bench makes 198 acid per 8 hours for 10k EL (with sulphur chemist spec)
99 acid and 297 tungsten ingots produce 26730 Tungsten regular ammo at the 2 perked workbench
Let's assume you run the event Chiron once a day (you can actually do it once per hour for full legend rank rewards), which gives you 22,000 EL and 60 Acid.
This means you can run two synthesis benches to make 396 acid per 8 hours for 20k, and you're still 2k EL ahead. If you run another Chiron in another hour you get another 22k EL and another 60 acid.
Basically ACID is no longer a concern with Sulphur chemist; you can even move onto Tungsten AP ammo easily. Your main concern at that point is Electronic Parts if you're running Shrapnel if you want SMART ammo (so you should get electronic grabbers and the electronic disassembly spec)
You need sulphur? Eat mining food (Canned Seafood in Oil) and solar drill some suphur nodes east of the map for 10 minutes.
Deluxe storage crate is A or S tier. Not everyone likes depositing your farmed resources into 10 different storage crates each time you return to your base.
And it's basically same materials... only difference is standard instead of rusted.
@@NookiEPoring wait they updated it to standard? Last time i used it. It was the exact same same materials
People underestimate how much of a time saver it is having one big storage. I got the 64 crate as my first spec and from lv5 to 50 I only had one chest until I started hoarding mats, which I still only have 4 right now holding every other material and another 3 each filled with 64 stacks of biomissiles.
@@kingcupcakes5171 same here, i have 3 but burned alot of resources getting a passive acid farm and doing dungeons. still only need 4 just cause its really nice to have.
stack your boxes on top of each other I feel like is the easiest way. To open you only need your crosshair to point at the crate. to use a memetic spec on extra space seems like a waste of space
It seems like nobody saw it (in the comments) but you're missing a point. You cannot compare all specs together (like compare 1 to any other 1), specs are random I agree but they drop in specific place of the memetic, for exemple "Bed : A Place to Call Home" is droping only in the first 3 specs choices (level 5-10-15). And so, to do a better tier list you had to compare specs with other that are in the same "pack" otherwise it dosen't make sense. I've not fully watch the video for the moment but it seems that is possible for you to say that we should pick more specs than allowed in a "pack".
Note : Memetics specialization worked like that before the (1 august) patch, I don't know if its still work the same
Sir this is known and does not change the fact about a perk being bad - it's still bad if it's the only choice
@@P4wnyhof ZG still got a point. You should make a tier list based on the level group.
Or at the least make note of what slots those perks fit into so the one good perk at lower levels isn’t throws away for the sake of things that can’t be in that slot.
There are definitely specs that are "better" than others in those tier brackets, generally. But pairing specific buffs together can also make up for someone that gets unlucky with options. Don't forget when you check your specs before making a choice, they are locked into those 4 or 5 choices per level bracket (can't remember how many options each spec gives by default). But you can always come back to them later to lock in if you want to wait and see what else you roll in the next 5-10 levels or so.
Easy example are the generators, they have different ones split across the tiers. But the majority give out +1 genny in your base, if you can stack any of the solar, hydro, bio in the first 30 levels then you're already locked in to 7-8 gens and people will pay you just to drop them in their base. Just take your time picking and don't insta lock anything unless it is a-s tier for your playstyle.
fun fact about the furnace efficiency’s, they stack additively, so if you have 50% and 60%, you craft stuff instantly. i can craft thousands of glass and bricks in one furnace, in maybe 20 seconds
Disagree with the D class on the large storage crate perk. We are capped on items we can place @250. Having bigger storage would cut down massively on the number of boxes I have to place in my base. For me its B tier at least if not C.
Yeah, Large storages are godsent if you are absolutely loaded on mats. I have one warband mate who had to turn their truck into extra storage and get backpack slot just to carry all they got. Theyre huge tradesperson too, raking in millions every week from trade.
PVP'er here. I'll give my 2 cents on Frontier view of things. We'll preface by saying that structures are there to slow down attackers as they need to blow up their way with C4 to a resonator.
Basic: defense: The sandbags and other fortifications is definitely D-tier.
Claymore mines: Not often used since most mixed explosives get used to making C4. Not to mention easy to spot, BUT even purple claymore cheekily placed can ruin a day. I'd be generous and place it on the C tier.
Spectral cloak. Invisibility is amazing. Though in PvP we got two whim potions: Parapsychology and Predator. The first one gives you a warning when enemy meta is aiming at you, the second one gives you also an invisiblity. Cannot run the two whims at same time though since it's from same deviant. B or C, depending on your playstyle.
Stardust barrier: Can be useful in coordinated assault/defenses, I'd say C. Never seen it used though.
Explosives on the go AND exposive sack AND explosive throwback: Nailed there. Definitely A if not S. More C4 to use basically.
Flamethrower trap: F in PVP too. Static defenses gonna be mostly rifles, maybe at times one shotgun. Turrets aren't that great at killing metas but metas are pretty amazing at killing turrets. So you want as much range from your turrets as possible in most bases.
Furnace sintering: The amount of bricks you need is TOO DAMN high. Having one sinterer in warband makes preparing strongholds a lot faster and easier. B
Stardust regulator: I'd go with B. SUPER strong, but with TTKs being so low and reg's cooldown being so high, it won't make you a juggernaut.
Stonestructures: B in PVP too. The extra HP puts stone stuff above reinforced by 800, which is basically 2 more C4s.
High powered warheads: Absolutely sexy. A. Lets you demolish better from safer distance. Bit expensive so can't spam it like C4
Ultra grenade: Considering grenades seem to do reduced damage to structures anyways.. C just because C4 exists.
Reinforced structure: healing: I'd go with C. The healing MIGHT be useful before wars when cheeky scouts are seeing if they can make their attacks easier, but honestly. If meta wants to blow a hole, they can do it relatively fast.
--- Non PVP related 2 cents
Also, the efficiency lover DOES drop the power consumption by 50% WHICH can he huge if RNG isn't blessing you with good power related perks. Granted, worst of the furnace perks though.
I'd say stardust mining platform has it uses. It's 20% yield on everything when it's in polluted zone AND you don't need to put any points to grab a mining platform. Unfortunately mining platforms seem little iffy to use, sometimes just randomly not doing anything, sometimes you log in and just swim in whatever resource you picked it to mine.
Gold pickaxe might pair nicely with the food that makes you mine with single hit.. But still, worth it over solar drill? Probably not.
Gear workbench, along with other building related perks, are great if you have more people who can cover other perks. In fact you can just ask people who have this specific perk to craft this specific building in your base and it will have the perk buffs as long as you don't destroy it. This also includes power generators and they can build it over your cap.
This is 100% correct and helps a lot if you have an active hive
Yeah! I provide generators for my Hive, and they give me furnaces, refineries, and food! Hive play like this is S Tier. Love this part of the game
"someone can just make those for you"
everyone: "yep, not picking that trash spec"
world chat: "who got this spec for sale?"
also world chat: "we didn't pick that spec coz we can just buy it from someone so we were hoping you picked it"
somebody did pick it
There is always someone sir :) Especially if you want to profit
That being said even if you don't have the things "someone else can make" it is no "loss"
Solo mindset lmao 😂
people who are addicted to the game maybe has multiple account just to have slave
@@otakulife2719 That sounds like someone with too much time on their hands (no offence to anybody reading this)
7:33 crystal transformation is a GOAT it safe people a lot of times to get platinum crystal for repairing weapon, crafting backpack expansion etc.
12:45 stardust mining platform is good you can just go to blackfell have oil and stardust on one location in normal day with lv 3 digby I can get 1k/day/mining platform pair it with oil processing and art of stardust decay to make acid out of thin air i know it is good to use sulfur chemist but it optional remember out of thin air
Super refinery actually doubles your yield when turning mixed fuel into premium fuel, so far from useless, also advanced electric drill gathers more than the solar drill
afaik the double yield for electric drill is only for silver gold and startrace ore.
@@kirbyduay i tested it on tungsten and aliminum, also double yield works for solar drill
came right in here to same the same about the super refinery. its way cheaper to make it with the super refinery, idk what hes talking about useless.
Also super refinery just got patched so it can process crude. You can double stack it with 2000 going at once
Yes, he is super wrong with it. Also his explanation sounds like he doesn't know what that actually do.
You are missing what levels you can get specific specializations, and you should rank in your opinion not only what you think is S tier in a group but S tier solo.
Deluxe Storage Crate is easily S tier if you're solo and S tier if at least one person in your hive has it. If 2 people have it yeah, its trash but it does complicate the list.
I feel like you almost need 3 lists as well as an active Hive that would work together as if someone weren't selling something or only one person is selling something it can easily become a monopoly lol.
Overall, this list is pretty solid and I'm very appreciative of this google doc, time and effort put in!
Photon power not only give you +10 to power of solar generators, but also +1 generator.
Thats one reason and another reason why I would rate photon power higher is that you aren't bound to a building place and you don't have to burn sth. They are just there and you get the power for free, everywhere.
I have the perk and cannot build over the set limmit, so no +1 generator on that perk.
I also have the perk, but it does work. 7/7 generators at my base
@@Marcus_Aurelion_Sol You get an extra two generators from regular memetics so that would be 4+2 with a total of 6 In theory you could have a total of 9 Generators with all the relevant perks.
@@lazytakamine409 That is amazing!
Good Video, thank you. Most of the S-Tier I knew already but you shined light on things that were actually useless that I used.
Great list and appreciate your efforts. I would suggest ranking these tiers but also separating low level memetics , (ie ones you get offered at level 5 and 10) vs mid level and high levels ones.
This.
Your Guides are very helpful, thank you for that. I have a question maybe it is worth a video? What should i do when the 6 week cycle ends. Is there somehting you can do with remaining ressources? Are there things that not get transferd automatically? Basically what is the most reasonable thing to do to save the most amount of stuff either into the eternal realn or into the next season?
Week 6 will basically be the final phase to prepare for next season will have to wait for details about actual phase 6 before I can spread all the information
Electric Drill: Treasure Hunt on a regular Advanced drill has me absolutely rolling in Stardust, Silver and Gold when combined with canned fish. People overrate the Solar Drill but maybe just because its able to be sold.
i can see your playstyle just form seeing how you explain the tier listing XD, would disagree with some but i do respect for the video effort!!
You overlooked the fact that red plasmas are required for nightmare wars, but you can also get the memory fragments for them pretty easily, still an A tier
Giving backpack expansion F tier is a massive L take
It's cheap to make, ALWAYS useful, +80 load and not everyone plays with others. His logic is dumb af, should be S tier.
Also portable fridge is great, esp when farming or moving large amount of ingredients. Canned food doesn't magically appear. Another underrated tiered spec.
Not everyone has their chat providing them with free backpack specs lmao bro.
Also backpack expansions expire, and it is a massive amount of load.
@@LhynnBlue Easily S tier. Yup, and most of these streamers are used to their chat giving them a massive amount of their load
Just tp home every time you get full on backpack, it's literally free and tp back again and farm. What are you doing with having permanently using 100 on load anyways.
If you want to argue having Bio missiles or plasma, just bring them when going to PW's it's not that hard.
I've played solo for 100 hours and never once needed backpack expansion because I always dissasemble / depo every run. Even multiple Silo runs doesn't even need backpack expansion pack.
@@Drae_mon L take. 60% load is no joke. I've got 300 hours with LEA solo and giant solo with no deaths and all wars done. But sure bro. Try carrying red plasma and consistently getting top 3 and let me know how your overloaded backpack is. 100 hrs is rookie hours boy
@@shinzoux5912 It's not about the hours isn't it? Also getting top 3 in PW's isn't better at getting top 5 if you all get the same boxes. Just go shoot your red plasma and it's out of your backpack, not sure what you want to do with the red plasma just lingering in your backpack.
Dont know if its updated, but the Gatling Cannon: Power Blast DOES deal bonus damage on shields with missiles! And also works for other players when they use your cannon. It's only the durability recover that doesnt function since its not in your territory. so id say its a S tier perk to grab! Just so ya'll know!
he also doesn't consider they come at certain levels making this tier list useless, tier list made by newb.
There are so many useless perks that all 4 options for half of the specialties was choosing the least worthless of the bunch. Glad i got to replace the worthless portable fridge for sulfur chemist.
Super refinery just got patched yo be able to process crude and can take 2 stacks of 1k each. I also think it processes at twice the speed. So for 15 watts to process 4 barrels of crude an hour where you need 40 watts for the regular refineries.
Really interesting video as always ! Thanks for the hard work ! (for all the videos, not only this one!). Just a little suggestion, even though we can find it online, it would have been convenient to put them by availability tier (lazy a** here lol). Maybe for the next patch update!
I've seen some folk say that the chipset perk is better than the gold/silver perk but would have to disagree as while it is easier to get the bits to craft them you get more mileage from smelting the gold & silver. Oh but the bars sell for less to a vendor, doesn't matter because each one has a cap and its easier to juggle the numbers by selling a lower cost item. If you offer smelting for tips or an exchange of ore for bars with a small extra factored in you will find that you don't even need to spend much time mining for yourself.
I'm in a similar mind over the normal vs solar drills, the increased ore from a standard drill is far more useful since it pairs better with the food and means less time required for mining trips.
Some of the perks just seem like placeholders for things to come or put on a back burner, diving gear being one and the disease cleansing another. There's medications for colds but I don't think I've ever actually seen a place where you're at risk of the sniffles, even if that perk covered sanity it wouldn't be that impressive because of the booze option and sanity only reducing health isn't a huge deal. I'd love it if low sanity had players get strange noises and visuals like Eternal Darkness but we only get lowered max hp and not even a slightly skewed camera.
Your tier list is great - would be the best if it also included the levels at which you could obtain them - that way we can try min/max and not waste resets on slots that cant roll certain Specializations
The art of stardust decay is pretty good because if you can make stardust yourself you it’s actually better than sulfur chemistry because it is way faster to craft the acid and you don’t have to waste el. But the perk alone ain’t anything fancy but with a combo high tier.
i have both perks and i always have stardust and acid on hand. plus got 6 pumps going so still got fuel to pump out hundreds of biomissles.
Who wrote this google doc? Super refinery QUADRUPLES the efficiency of making premium fuel and it's D tier? Premium fuel is the biggest gate and that's the strongest perk for it by a LOT.
Great video! Been looking for a good tier list for these for a while.
I would say, the gear durability perk is somewhat useful for those running builds with 0 reload. I'm using Icy Rain frost vortex and that little shit breaks every 30min if I'm grinding bosses. Would be a good quality of life, I think. You can also craft the mechanical hand thing from the deviant that repairs your lowest durability weapon/gear piece but it's a little pricey to use often. I carry a few for emergencies so as to not slow down the grind with friends.
Also if you're 0 reload, the S tier perks to ammo production ARE. A. MUST.
*TIP* - Synthesis Bench: Recycle & Reuse adding +1 usage to Portable MG Turrets and Scout Drones stacks with the +5 usage specs for each. And seriously, these things hit surprisingly hard for being consumables as they scale with your own PSI, not just an arbitrary number, and also can apply Bull's Eye with the Invisible Hunter spec, and/or Power Surge with the Orb Lightning whim potion.
Fantastic rating. Thanks for sharing the file.
My friend, I adore you. Your videos are the best, don't stop
I took Scout Drone Invisible Hunter just out of curiosity. I still had respec points so why not test stuff. So freaking cool! I highly suggest checking this one out if you haven't!
6:28 the barrier works good because it blocks a lot of damage and if you stand behind it or near “i think” it reduces damage taken as well. I been using it and it does help and since the team can use it and it’s easy to make, this is something i just setup and use real quick if i have the chance because in harder modes there’s a lot of adds and raised defenses protect you from swarms.
I'd have to say I disagree on the super refinery. it IS in fact faster than a regular refinery in converting Fuel into Premium fuel, and does it with half the fuel. The regular refinery requires 50 portable fuel per 1 premium, and requires an hour. The super refinery requires only 25 portable fuel per premium and does so in 30 minutes.
This means a super refinery produces 2x as much premium fuel in the same amount of time/portable fuel as a regular refinery. The biggest problem with the super refinery, however, is that it cannot turn crude oil into portable fuel which means if you want a pipeline of Oil > Portable fuel > Premium fuel --you need both types of refinery for maximum production and that eats a *lot* of power--. So much so that I'm not even certain a single base can fully make use of the speed of the super refinery without going all in on power perks.
So for that alone, I'd probably put the super refinery in the C if not B tier if only because of the bonus to your passive premium fuel generation, but that is -only- if you're on an actual oil-producing area.
That said, even the best refinery set up is insignificant compared to simply farming extraction permits which hands out premium fuel like candy.
*Updated for post August patch*
The Super refinery just got boosted even more, now that it's also able to turn crude oil into portable fuel, still at a 10:5 ratio but in only 30 minutes, instead of an hour. So one super refinery can go through 20 crude oil per hour instead of just 10. Simultaneously they can also work on converting portable fuel into premium, meaning for 5 water pumps you only need a total of 3 super refineries to convert all the crude oil into portable fuel -and- convert that portable fuel into premium fuel seamlessly. Opposed to having 5 regular refineries + 1 super refinery.
D tier stuff is the mostly what bangs the buck in the game.
It might be worth mentioning that if you get perks like Careful Disassembly or anything that allows you to make an improved crafting bench you can craft that bench for friends in their territory and they can benefit from it without needing the perk.
Yes that is possible... if you do have friends :D
Furthermore, if you intend to respec one of these perks, you can craft it and maybe a few extra and the perk will stay on the production facility even after you remove the specialization.
8:20 Took the crate perk as a L because it was best one i rolled at level 10... then we ran out of storage options at the group base for my warband and I fixed it by swapping standard crates for deluxe. Came in clutch.
I actually skipped S-Tier (as Beginner) and I think that was good, because for the very first season, I wanted to go in blind, make my own decisions and not efficience the c out of the game and be bored. Because that is what's happening with most people when they follow lists and "best in slot"-guides. Myself? Well, I like to farm ressources, produce goods and build bases. That's why I am always restless and re-designing my base. Never sold anything since on my beginner server nobody buys stuff - not to my knowledge.
Well, I am a lone wolf and doing all the things solo efficiently is making me happy ^^ Thank you P4wny.
Stay crunchy
I believe they fixed Gatling Cannon: Power Blast specialization in a recent update. My bio missiles used to do only 15k on a Gatling 2. Now they do 19500 on prime war bosses.
I am curious why the Phoenix adrenalin shots are so low? They heal quite a bit saving your cooldown on activators that you would normally have to use.
As a complete new player who started like 2-3 weeks ago I have taken Biomass Missile less weight and + 2 yield, Solar Drill, Disassembly Bench: Careful Disassembly, Backpack expansion(was this or the ore,logs etc weigh less and I assumed the backpack would be more usefull) and at last the electronic grabber. Im lvl 27 atm. Good to see I have some iq when it comes to picking decent/good stuff. Reading the comments it seems the Backpack expansion might be lucrative bizznizz
Love your content. Thank you!
You can use spectral cloak to run through silos in stealth! It will cancel your stealth mode once you attack, but you will get back to it after you are out of combat. The whole thing lasts 120s. You could bypass all the annoying mobs in silo runs, just taking out elites and important mobs.
you ARE german? what the hell man, you dont sound like. thanks for all the GREAT GREAT, nah, SUPERB content. Had a lot of games with content creators that didnt put half the effort into anything than you did. Always know the facts, always provide the sheets and stuff. DANKE DIR, cooler Typ!
You can also pick a perk, put it in your base and then respec it btw
Hey man. Love your videos. Planning on doing one of these for Way of Winter memetics?
Many of you ignore the fact that he is not speaking for ppl in team hwo is cordinated video helped me lot as a solo player ty mate
the 64 slot storage crate one is good for base builders because there is a cap on how many things you can put down in the base. so if you can put down 1 crate that takes the spot of 2 crates that is more of other things you can add to the base. i like making epic looking bases that function on there own for the most part and the normal crates take up to many base spots lol
I noticed Chef's Knife was not included in the list. Unlock new formula: Chef's knife When in your Backpack, meat yield +1 when field dressing animals, with a 30-60% chance to yield additional products. Thanks for the vid
28:00 the double drone usage is surprisingly useful as yes the turrrete are nice but the basic drone is spammable with a way lower resource cost and as it flies less aiming issues.
Not got the +5 drone use and don’t know what their it’s in but I’ll take both if I get the chance.
Turret is handy for wave-defence, drones useful al at times as it can effectively let you shoot around corners and this is not an ability to be underestimated even in a game with nominally brain dead Ai
32:22 secs you have a frame with "media offline" label xD nice video!!
the reason you don't just make another storage crate is because you're maxed out on facility slots with a semi-decent fuel- and acid production (and the including pumps to run it 24/7) and a decently sized farm. you don't necessarily have to have it yourself but having some people be able to place those boxes for others within a warband or hive is incredibly valuable if you want to min-max your passive production.
Got caught off guard that you are german☺️ your english is really good to understand, atleast for me as Norwegian
Watching this while downloading the patch, I love it! So useful!
same, lmao
That was the plan :X!
The patch is out?
Thx a ton for that list really helpful for newbies like me. BTW just got Sulfur Chemist today exactly as I was struggling with Acid - looks like newbie luck :)
Hey guys ! Just keep in mind that currently, the only available scenarios are classed "beginner" level. Eventually a lot of specializations that seem "useless" now could be more than welcome to complete harder scenarios ✌
Watch out! Tier list heavily focused on PVE Servers, some Must Have specializations for PVP servers are rated C or even D, and some completely useless Specializations for PVP servers are rated S. Nonetheless this tier list still helps new people with the basic notions of what they should look for. Great video.
all the specs that "sell to vendor for energy links" are F-tier. its very easy to max vendor sales with food.
my power generators are bugged and i have 10/8 in my base currently lol - the specs giving +2 generators until today. i was able to place 10 generators in my friends base as well so its like he doesnt even need the perks - it definitely helps to play with other people.
also, the sulfur chemist is 8 hour conversion, not 4. very good spec but can easily be placed by someone else for you.
in fact, almost all of these can be built by someone else making specs that offer personal buffs more S-tier than anything you could just pay for.
I want to alert you to a very important matter that many may not have cared about, please like the comment so it reaches
I was using the normal refinery that everyone has and which gives you 5 fuel every hour
But the super refinery, which you said is useless, it is true that it consumes 15 watts, it can also produce 20 fuel every hour, which really saved me while playing with my friends
But if you are alone in the world, the normal refinery is fine
I agree with everything you said except for the super refinery, actually let me say something
I now have 6 weapons in the max CALIPRITION, I mess around a lot with the blueprints, I give my friends 1000 stardust source every day, I sell a lot, I have 1.5m energy link, and we are still in the third week :)
If it wasn't for the super I wouldn't be able to do this ^^
It's sad to see useless features like this, and when I get them as drops after fighting a monster, believe me I wouldn't give up a point for this feature!, Really useless
I hope it will be fixed soon, if these useless features were usable (without any points) maybe, I might use them ^
I also want to tell you something, which is that many features that other players can build for you, are not useless but not worth it. For example, the oven that gives you double glass and bricks, you can easily find someone to build an oven in your house for a small fee or even for free, and enjoy the feature ^ With my friends, we were able to get many advantages and exchange among ourselves. I hope that the situation continues like this because if they cancel this matter, it will really be a big loss because 80% of those spicialzitin are useless
Backpack Expansion - No, no, let someone else take it. And everyone is waiting.😄
It ain't simply needed - Its just a bonus if someone took it :)
My friend sells these for 30k each because the server is a horder
@@P4wnyhof Ich habe es verstanden, ich habe nur einen Scherz gemacht.(Ich habe gehört, dass Sie Deutscher sind. Automatische Übersetzung.)
@@airdog20 Lucky him/her.
30k what? @@airdog20
You also need to post item requirements. If it’s supposed to be detailed you need a list of items required to make said items including if the mats can be swapped out to give a better understanding of what people will need when choosing said specs.
man what would I do without your videos xD
The Rare Crystal Set is perfectly fine because you get far more lower tier crystals than you could possibly need, since the stuff you need a lot of is T5. If you haven't gotten a "sellable valuables" spec yet and that pops up, it's a good option, since T2 crystals (lowest tier) sell for the same 12k Energy as T5s would.
From what I can tell, you're missing a couple of perks:
Chef's Knife
Pickaxe: Forest Foe
Jump Booster
That's all I've noticed as of now.
Great vid!!!
This is great, but must consider: SOMEONE needs to get those "don't get, buy" memerics and craft to sell.. I'd put some of them higher on the list.
It's been a month, can we get an updated version? now with ahrd servers and all.
Make a new one so we can keep this one for the normal PVE server fans as well.
about the large storage crate is that the amount of crates you can put in your base is LIMITED.
just found that out yesterday, so the perk could be very good if you are a horder like me
23:42 strike by lightning, is a PvP perk, for when they shoot surge on you, there is a every 20 hit you get hit by lightning, so you get heal instead of damage from that =D S tier PvP perk.
Moonlight mining is actually on par with a t2 solar drill when using a tungsten pickaxe. Drill yield is slightly more during the day, but less at night. T3 solar drill is still better, but moonlight mining isn't as bad as people think.
Me - "His pronunciation is so odd, I wonder what his native language is..."
P4wnyhof - "Sorry I'm German"
Oh thanks. lol Impeccable timing.
Super Refinery makes changing fule into premium fuel cost 25 per instead of 50. it also gives you 2 spots to convert per refinery for 15 power instead of 1 for 10. so it is 33% more power efficent and the cost of making fule/premium fuel is 50% less.
Super refinery is actually really good in my opinion. It means you don't need a spot for oil. All you need is a polluted area and you can get acid and premium fuel.
Should have made a separate tier for PVP perks for those people who play in PVP servers. Thanks for the tierlist though, very know league and as always watching your guides are enjoyable!
There is so few PvP perks that actually matter they are kinda easy to pick out I guess 😅
@@P4wnyhof Ah true, I commented midway watching the video haha. Thanks again for the tierlist, good sir!
So here is something he isn't talkung about that well but how some specs combo making them better then solo. Get the 30% less resources used ant 30% less time for ingots + double ingot perk+ 50% more ammo= around 40000 rifle rounds from one stack of crafted ingots for the price of 70 ingots.
How this works is you make a full stack of 99. It only costs you about what it would for 70 ingots with the 30% resource discount.
But when you pull them out after crafted you get 198 ingots instead due to the double craft. Now you craft the bullets with the 198 will say 11800 bullets for 99. Yet with the 50% more some how it come out to 19 -20k bullets. But since you craft all 198 it comes out to about 40k bullets.
You can do similar math for ap ammo but bit they have other restrictions.
Now why 50% more bullets is closer to double i don't know..... maybe a translation error or a coding error?
Thank u for this video I needed before but now still useful thx
all of the upgraded building ones, they’re on any building you make, so like i have 4 specs for my furnaces, best in my server, so i sell my furnaces to people. so keep in mind others when getting specs, try to get ones that synergize. just because you don’t get meta specs, doesn’t mean you have bad specs, and imo 4 synergized specs are better than 4 non synergized meta specs
Since you have to reconstruct facility buildings maybe you could get some of these perks then re-roll them, then just never deconstruct your benches or furnace
100% possible!
art of stardust decay for me is goated since I have the perk where I can turn stardust ore to source so its pretty much automated
The upgraded refinery since they fixed the issue with oil not being able to be put in it isn't the worst thing in the world. As its double streamed and uses 5 less power compared to using 2 regular refineries I can pump out more fuel. I use this with the perk to turn stardust ore and fuel to stardust source and have like 200k+ stardust source at anyone time. I can use the fuel to trade for acid or whatever else I need - however I don't need that much acid since biomissiles dont require acid and I double proc on Aluminium and tungsten meaning less refining.
the spectral cloak is actually really good for running silos, it allows you to skip most mobs without getting hit.
and the chipset is mostly useless, energy isnt an issue in any point of the game, and end game youll have millions form just doing content.
Kind of tip for eternal land stuff. Stardust source and acid sell for 1 sand each. However with the stardust source to crystals you can make the lvl 41 to 50 crystal and sell 1 crystal for 500 sand a piece.
Personally, I'd raise all the foods specializations one tier higher. Between perishable & canned goods, perishables just have more buffs. Roasted & Dried is good early whereas Mini Cans are great late because they have different effects & yields, which meets your demands at the current play.
Early on, I got Moonlight Axe & Forest Foe. My wife got all the building ones. We play the game for different reasons.
In general, recipe > building > buff item. It is simply much easier to buy an item from a vending machine than get someone to come to your base every time you need to build something.
I think money perks are not needed, but they may let you get extra money for less effort early in the season. There are some really good cooking recipes for farming money from vendors.
Any item perk is better buying from someone else. The biggest offender is solar drill where you need both perks to be worth anything.
I don't like that they turned the specialization system in to something to be traded. It only highlights how flawed it is. Most of the perks are just useless, if not broken.
Another great informative video!! Thankies for the list!
Storage crate is amazing, I have so much loot... I needed the 64 storage crate. You're capped on amount of storage crates being able to place.
Gravel is AMAZING if you play in PvP servers. You need to build in frontiers every 2 days and require A LOT of materials.
Power Generator: Stardust Unleashed - if you took 2 other perks to have + 2 gens, you can first put deviation generators (8) and then switch with fragments to this one, then you'll have 392w. So it depends :)
Edit: Since you have 3 switches to fragments, you can switch +2 gens 1 to this one, another to something more useful )
Edit2: But not sure if you really need that much power :)
Shells count as "meat" and give 100 to Biomass generators so you can just go on beach, mine shell rocks for 10min and have energy for 8 days.
(Spare shells can be used to make fertilizer.)
The golden knife is great if your running: jaws unstable bomber build. You get the +% damage from the cradle tactical weapon perk and get + damage from unstable bomber trigger.
I'm playing for the first time and I pulled Solar Drill and Sulfur Chemist in the same row.
the perks that upgrade a crafting station can always be good because if 1 person in your Hive has it than you all do cause they can just come over and craft you the upgraded workstation
Gourmand effect bonus doesn't actually increase anything except the energy/hydration of the food/drinks. Tested with Canned Meat, Gourmand gives the same amount of max HP. I think you're sleeping on Brain Freeze, Ice Tea + sanity restoring ingredient leads to some spicy rolling and you don't have to run Corn Ale anymore.
Super refinery is a must for fuel farming. Water pumps pump the crude oil, refinery break down crude to portable fuel, portable fuel turns into premium fuel. It's a must in fuel production
Super refinery also has two slots.
So, instead of using 20W for two refinery (portable + refined), you only use one.
Increased biomass missles also effects the red plasma. For sure a great dual grab.
To add onto the missile perks, if you have the +2 craft, take red plasma or the other one, the specialisation for +2 applies to the other specialisation missiles, or so I've been told.
I had +2 yield and red plasma perks together last season, but it didn't work for red plasma. Might be a bug.
About Improved compound fertilizer...The only way I would see to use it is to plant the plants yourself and then have the Mushroom pick them up. That deviant doesn't use fertilizer, and I am not even sure if the effect of this fertilizer will still work once the Mushroom collects them, hopefully.
From farming for several weeks now with the deviant, it does not use while planting, but the plants it harvest after you planted manually with fertilizer do get the benefit from it.
So I just keep manually planting my 96 plots and let the mushroom collect it all when it's done. Mushrooms can also randomly grow into the Growshroom in your plots, it's how I got 2 extra so far.