@@EarnestApostate thanks , Im gla dyou did. tomorrow we have a new video coming out on a overlooked quantum gravity theory that also has something to say on the Big Bang
The wonderful way of finding answers as to why we exist in this universe. Although some of these paths go up a dry gully, never the less it is all about finding out.
30:05, 44:09 here brandenberger missed out an important emperical critque of Subir Sarkar that puts cosmological principle on critque. I hope if prof Bandenberger explained it. which is based on the experimental realizations.
Its in a way wrong to talk about the big bang as creation in a typical sense since creation is a process. Any process is a function of time. Spacetime is what was «created» in the big bang, so it can’t be a process without time
@@TheGriseboy whatever it was that initiated inflation - possibly a quantum fluctuation - from a "singulaity" that could have already existed, possibly infinitely into the past, started the "cosmic clock" ticking.
@@TheGriseboy well, we're talking about "spacetime", which, of course, didn't begin until the expansion. The so-called singularity has been thought to be a point of infinite mass and density - much like a super massive black hole - where time and space doesn't exist, but yet the "singularity" does. It just doesn't become spacetime until it expands. But, alas, the "singularity" represents a point where where the known laws of physics cannot describe conditions, and concepts of space and time may not apply in the same way they do in our observable universe. I currently lean towards Sir Roger Pernrose's "theory" of a "conformal" universe, that speculates that our current universe is just one in an endless series.
Short answer. No. The universe did not have a beginning but rather a phase shift. It went from something that cannot be tested or checked anymore even in theory to a new state that scientists call today the big bang. This is just the beginning of the universe in this state, not the absolute beginning of everything. Matter and energy never had a start and will never have an ending either.
This is really a question of scientific vs religious/dogmatic thinking. Scientific thinking sees unknown things as things to investigate and learn more about. Religious/dogmatic thinking sees unknowable things, and rejects physical cause-and-effect as a path to further knowledge.
56:41 the Debate should be between Maldecena/ shiraz minwalla vs Penrose vs Ashtekar. It would be insane to do so.. Since they are talking about ads cft
@@Goat-e3g I think the majority of physics believe that, but there are some pretty hefty names defending that information is lost , Penrose, Unrush, Wald; these are some of the giants of relativity and they all feature in a film Im hoping to have out next week.
If I could only compress space, now that I'm getting old and running out of time to witness more exploration of nature!😕 That way I could get through much more of it before I'm gone.😥
So i think that further understanding of the phase transition between on a galactic and universal level will result in a model of the universe more a kin to a osmosis mechanism where the phase transition between the systems undline the process as a whole
I am planning on buying Thomas herzog book working with Stephen hawking smooth exit out Enternery inflation soon noneboundary proposal and also Robert Brandenburg and Cumrun vafe sting gas cosmology too.
Hello I am an undergrad physics major and researcher. One of my fields of research interest is in the mathematical/theoretical physics area specifically on finding new ways to think about 4-dimensional spacetime geometry. Now that I have introduced myself I would love to ask a question that has been on my mind ever since I started working on it after hearing about the No Boundary Proposal. What do you think would be the physical and experimental implications of treating the Minkowski metric as a complex plane where the fourth dimension of time is treated as a probability wave?
I’m imagining Piers Morgan watching this video and trying get his head around it!😂 He had a funny interaction with Richard Dawkins arguing about time not existing “before” the Big Bang.
Wow! I don't know if I feel smarter or dumber after listening to this. Maybe I feel like I _should_ be smarter, but I'm actually dumber than I thought? Heh, heh. But this is certainly fascinating! Thank you.
has anyone ever mooted the possibility that inflation derives from compactification of a much grander exogenous state of information? I ask this as I coded a simple axiomatic information agnostic abiogenesis sim naturally manifesting such a dynamic, which generated cosmogenic features akin to inflationary transitions with interesting information structure near macro and mirco maximal entropy boundary conditions, which behaved a bit like emergent physics fields. I monte carlo tested the sim's information coupling behaviour in a very rudimentary way and in implied inflationary transition rate was maximised around ~1/24 coupling, which I've read is around some TOE coupling extrapolations, so was curious given I'm just some amateur more interested in modelling abiogenesis first principles, with little more than a laymens physics aptitude if this touches upon other pre physics philosophical theories ie is there a sort of deeper overlap between between abiogenesis and cosmogenesis as a unified generative model?
Is the total energy in the observable universe decreasing with inflation? With time, galaxies are disappearing from view which would mean that the energy density is decreasing, no?
Do they know they are looking at the Quantum level? Everything around us has been here forever. Everything has happened before,& will happen again. Thats what Quantum is all about. Absolutely everything is right in front of us, all the time. The Universe blossoms. That is what Universes do. Thats what their purpose is. To blossom until the end of time❤
11:45 singularity is another word for they don't know. Infinite density would pull the universe in at or close to light speed. Black holes are finite systems with solution sets. Proportional to the mass in it. Black holes evaporate over time and finite life spans. Infinities do exist, but seems to get misused in spots. Similar they use it on big bang and even that was finite as the natural cutoffs for the universe. 18:10 I agree their are other viable possibilities and inflation was a band-aid. Not to get into parts like FTL and FTL never seen in a vacuum. Also constraints on quantum foam, and supper structures that shouldn't exist if the universe was perfectly homogeneous and such. You can still have inflation. Just not FTL. 24:17 12.5 light year diamiter flash over. Destroying a black hole with the mass of the universe. 2 probable ways that can fit what's known. But that also gets to questions of degenerate matter and plank limit or quantum boundaries/islands. Quantum gets to pair production and quantum ring from sheet collision and such they seem to avoid. Also questions of quantum foam only being inside the universe and not outside. 33:49 real time is finite. A beginning of a type and the end of time as we know it. When the last particle decays and a weird ground state when photons do not get close enough to interact. (Part of the natural cutoffs)To add to it all. You could consider virtual time clocks. At any rate. Thank you for sharing the video.
Reality is not observable, but to the point we can get information, thus it's an outdated contract to automatically disregard those speculations etc. hypothesis that include parts where we can not yet and sometimes never observe it. The concept of scientific theory should have more space etc. flexibility to be able to include theories where one can not observe everything in it, but have more innovative etc. sophisticated criteria to determine the quality of a theory.
Not true. As astronomers look into space they see stars. The light from close stars travels less time than for far-away stars. Astronomers can only look at the past, as light takes time to travel. The law of cause and effect, is a law. Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error. The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
@@djsarg7451 You say not true, but are actually arguing towards something else than i wrote. We can not observe reality in whole, but you claim otherwise etc.
@@djsarg7451 The Bible never talks about the universe. They use the word heavens and earth. In the biblical hebrew the universe is referred to as standing existence.
@@sensei_Ilu I did ask them to debate Guth and they refused but did arrange Guith to debate Penrose , did you see that? ruclips.net/video/YhbULagUKhA/видео.html
Infinite space doesn't equal to ..multiverse.., but one singular one. Clearly singularity is evidence of the limits current science can explore. We have plenty of analogies of matter exploding etc. emerging, but none where matter(anything) has come to existence from absolutely nothing(nothing), thus infinite time and for example an absolute conversation of matter/energy.
The law of cause and effect, is a law. Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error. The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
@@djsarg7451 Einstein couldn't figure out what happened in the beginning of the biggest explosion we are aware of, thus the singularity. You are missing the point here imo.
@@PhilHalper1 something or someone (Whichwho)created time, else the something is time itself; which every scientific reaction depends upon it. E=M(299,792 km/s)²
Hi, please big bang not good definition as to be modified and it will be ok, by the way any type of singularity do not existe into scientific meaning the same about methaphysic love and care about each of you 😎 Philippe
ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html ... infinite or not? The universe is one universe big where "one" gets it's meaning from a line-like observable that extends from here to there. :) Of course... it's tricky to convert from "one universe" to meters. So do you abandon the concept of length? Space? Time? hmmmm...
@PhilHalper1 because it's the only one having any evidence in favour. The other side has implausible mathematical doodles and ridiculous philosophical assumptions.
ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html "real time" ... somebody realizes that there is a separation of the abstract and what the abstractions refer to. And somebody is confused. So weird to watch this happen in real time :).
re: ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html ... nope. By default assumption you have partition "the problem" into "physics" vs philosophy. A cosmological model is a abstract representation of what the universe is and does. It's not philosophy it's getting it right.
The CMB was just one of the first Mandela effect discontinuities between released versions of the simulation multiverse. It served to hide the fact that our beloved Earth IS the center of all major versions of space-time, where the major Messiah incarnations of God occur. This confused the hell out of the alpha adversary soul vehicle of the time - the Andromedans - who have been trying to crash their galaxy into God's favorite Milky Way for quite some time. The new red dots appearing to be so abundant since the JWST reflect the completion of another major version of space-time with the awakening of a new and improved version of God - the human Messiah. All but the most dense players of the game of souls have figured this out at this point, and either been exorcised by the Messiah or fled from the chosen planet before their next creation bomb, the Great Reset of the CCP-WEF crony globalist-communist axis of evil is set to go off, which they have tried to accelerate to cover their tracks and take more souls with them. Needless to say, their effort is too little too late. The glowing orbs that have been gathering about are here to take the most sinful souls as far from God's planet as possible, and to shield God's favorites - especially the newly graduated Divine Council of senior creator spiritual scientists - from the effects of any of the time bombs planted by humanity or the entities that set up all the cosmic cycles that put time limits on God's awakening - the reason that so many Hindu and Buddhist fools thought creation was cyclical, or the result of the lack of free will in the face of materialist predestination. You DO have free will, but till you reach the god levels of consciousness, no awareness of whether your free will choices occur in the physical universe, your currently attended spiritual afterlife universe, or your own nascent personal creative universe. These 3 levels of time-space realities make up the individual 12D string merkaba of all souls created since the beginning of physical space-time. God was already way ahead of all the kids before the first fell from the highest heaven, to do all the dirty work of creation till we hit the limit of cultural entropy, which turned out to be a much tougher problem than physics entropy, and required the messiah shell game to be set up to conduct the first successful triple blind social engineering experiment.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error. The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
The terms the heavens and the earth do not refer to the universe. The words for universe in Hebrew are standing existence. No where in the Bible do we see that God created standing existence. The Bible clearly states that God created the world which translates to the age of man.
nope the Hebrew words are very clear, Hashimyim means the sky and Haeretz means the land, so it really says "in the beginning God created the land and the sky. "
@@kos-mos1127 And you have some ref to back this up? NO. The phrase, ha-shamyaim we-et ha-‘eres, translated as “the heavens and the earth” appeared in nine other Old Testament passages: Exodus 20:11, Exodus 31:17, Deuteronomy 4:26, Deuteronomy 30:19, Deuteronomy 31:28, 1 Chronicles 29:11, Jeremiah 23:24, Jeremiah 32:17, and Haggai 2:21. In these nine texts plus Genesis 1:1 the usage of ha-shamyaim we-et ha-‘eres implied that it referred to all physical reality-the totality of matter, energy, space, and time. In other words, it referred to the universe. Creed of Nicaea (325 AD) and Nicene Creed (381 AD) declares God to be the “Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.” Augsburg Confession (Germany, 1530) declares God to be the “the Maker and Preserver of all things, visible and invisible” (article 1). Creation ex nihilo receives its strongest support from Genesis 1:1, which states that God created (Hebrew bárá’) “the heavens and the earth” (i.e. the entire physical universe). Bárá’ is the strongest Hebrew word used to convey God’s creative activity. Romans 8:20-21 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay (2rd laws of the thermodynamics) and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.
@@PhilHalper1 1) There are online Biblical Hebrew tools you can use to look up the word "yom". 2) Yom is literally: a) Sunrise to sunset b) Sunset to next sunset c) Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ). 3) We read the whole Bible to see if it is a, b or c. 4) Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days, So this would say c 5) Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 say the mountains are ancient, so c 6) There no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended, so c 7) Hebrews 4:9-10 says day 7 has not eneded. So c 8) The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. so c The whole Bible says a day is time span. Jews keep a day of rest, but Gen 2:4 and Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 tell us this is not about Gen 1 yom. Also the Jews had a 7 year "day of rest" of the land, so for Jews, rest was not 24 hours always.
{Isa 55:6 KJV} Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: {Isa 55:7 KJV} Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon. {Isa 55:8 KJV} For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. {Isa 55:9 KJV} For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
I’m imagining Piers Morgan watching this video and trying get his head around it!😂 He had a funny interaction with Richard Dawkins arguing about time not existing “before” the Big Bang.
Great debate, super interesting and insightful! Thank you for bringing this video here. Perfect! 👌
thanks
This channel is criminally under-viewed. The polite and genteel debates are delightful and instructive.
@@jkonrad thanks
I love that this "debate" was just two men respectfully getting clarification on the other's viewpoint.
@@Zictomorph yes it's very refreshing
Definitely loved that
@@EarnestApostate thanks , Im gla dyou did. tomorrow we have a new video coming out on a overlooked quantum gravity theory that also has something to say on the Big Bang
Epic debate to have arranged, Phil! I’m really enjoying listening to this
thanks very much
The "No boundary" proposal is a clever idea.
@@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 it certainly is
The wonderful way of finding answers as to why we exist in this universe. Although some of these paths go up a dry gully, never the less it is all about finding out.
yes exactly
30:05, 44:09 here brandenberger missed out an important emperical critque of Subir Sarkar that puts cosmological principle on critque. I hope if prof Bandenberger explained it. which is based on the experimental realizations.
Great debate! I look foward to read your book.
thanks
Since neither matter or energy can be created or destroyed, it's logical to assume that the universe has always existed, in one form or another.
well conservation of energy is hard to define for an expanding universe
Its in a way wrong to talk about the big bang as creation in a typical sense since creation is a process. Any process is a function of time. Spacetime is what was «created» in the big bang, so it can’t be a process without time
@@TheGriseboy whatever it was that initiated inflation - possibly a quantum fluctuation - from a "singulaity" that could have already existed, possibly infinitely into the past, started the "cosmic clock" ticking.
@@TerryUniGeezerPeterson how does something exsist infinetly into the past without time? Seems like saying north of the north pole to me
@@TheGriseboy well, we're talking about "spacetime", which, of course, didn't begin until the expansion. The so-called singularity has been thought to be a point of infinite mass and density - much like a super massive black hole - where time and space doesn't exist, but yet the "singularity" does. It just doesn't become spacetime until it expands. But, alas, the "singularity" represents a point where where the known laws of physics cannot describe conditions, and concepts of space and time may not apply in the same way they do in our observable universe.
I currently lean towards Sir Roger Pernrose's "theory" of a "conformal" universe, that speculates that our current universe is just one in an endless series.
Good to see you again
All new videos dropping while I'm at work 😅. Will stop by later but this comment is for the algorithm
@@ellyam991 thanks look forward to your thoughts
Short answer. No. The universe did not have a beginning but rather a phase shift. It went from something that cannot be tested or checked anymore even in theory to a new state that scientists call today the big bang. This is just the beginning of the universe in this state, not the absolute beginning of everything. Matter and energy never had a start and will never have an ending either.
How do you KNOW that?
Congrats on the book pending release.
@@tdsdave thanks
This is really a question of scientific vs religious/dogmatic thinking. Scientific thinking sees unknown things as things to investigate and learn more about. Religious/dogmatic thinking sees unknowable things, and rejects physical cause-and-effect as a path to further knowledge.
56:41 the Debate should be between Maldecena/ shiraz minwalla vs Penrose vs Ashtekar. It would be insane to do so.. Since they are talking about ads cft
hmm im jusy making a film with Penrose.Unruh/Wald on defending information loss but maybe there is debate there too. Let me think about this
@@PhilHalper1phil isn't information can't be lost a settled debate?
@@Goat-e3g I think the majority of physics believe that, but there are some pretty hefty names defending that information is lost , Penrose, Unrush, Wald; these are some of the giants of relativity and they all feature in a film Im hoping to have out next week.
If I could only compress space, now that I'm getting old and running out of time to witness more exploration of nature!😕 That way I could get through much more of it before I'm gone.😥
Yeah me too
@@PhilHalper1 Your stuff starting to give out too?😁
Interesting. The notion of proof in the context of physics. How do you prove a metric? Can you derive the number 1? ...
Great conversation!
Love your videos.
thanks v much
So i think that further understanding of the phase transition between on a galactic and universal level will result in a model of the universe more a kin to a osmosis mechanism where the phase transition between the systems undline the process as a whole
Great dialogue 👌
thanks
Please get Nikodem Popławski on to talk about his black hole cosmology based on Einstein-Cartan theory of gravity!
your wish is my command ruclips.net/video/xXL0N3elFLE/видео.html
I am planning on buying Thomas herzog book working with Stephen hawking smooth exit out Enternery inflation soon noneboundary proposal and also Robert Brandenburg and Cumrun vafe sting gas cosmology too.
Hello I am an undergrad physics major and researcher. One of my fields of research interest is in the mathematical/theoretical physics area specifically on finding new ways to think about 4-dimensional spacetime geometry. Now that I have introduced myself I would love to ask a question that has been on my mind ever since I started working on it after hearing about the No Boundary Proposal.
What do you think would be the physical and experimental implications of treating the Minkowski metric as a complex plane where the fourth dimension of time is treated as a probability wave?
I think you'd have to ask Thomas about that
@@PhilHalper1 How can I reach out to him respectfully? Is he comfortable talking to random undergraduates?
@@keith.anthony.infinity.h you could try emailing him , look hi at Leuven university
I’m imagining Piers Morgan watching this video and trying get his head around it!😂 He had a funny interaction with Richard Dawkins arguing about time not existing “before” the Big Bang.
Wow! I don't know if I feel smarter or dumber after listening to this. Maybe I feel like I _should_ be smarter, but I'm actually dumber than I thought? Heh, heh.
But this is certainly fascinating! Thank you.
8:09
what video of Hawking is Phil halper talking about. If possible put a link
I think it's @0:51
"Before the Big Bang 5: The No Boundary Proposal".
@@31428571J the link is in the description but here it is again: ruclips.net/video/Ry_pILPr7B8/видео.html
has anyone ever mooted the possibility that inflation derives from compactification of a much grander exogenous state of information?
I ask this as I coded a simple axiomatic information agnostic abiogenesis sim naturally manifesting such a dynamic, which generated cosmogenic features akin to inflationary transitions with interesting information structure near macro and mirco maximal entropy boundary conditions, which behaved a bit like emergent physics fields.
I monte carlo tested the sim's information coupling behaviour in a very rudimentary way and in implied inflationary transition rate was maximised around ~1/24 coupling, which I've read is around some TOE coupling extrapolations,
so was curious given I'm just some amateur more interested in modelling abiogenesis first principles, with little more than a laymens physics aptitude if this touches upon other pre physics philosophical theories ie is there a sort of deeper overlap between between abiogenesis and cosmogenesis as a unified generative model?
Is the total energy in the observable universe decreasing with inflation? With time, galaxies are disappearing from view which would mean that the energy density is decreasing, no?
I'm missing the strawberry wine that was hosting in the past. These are great guests, but the format and the host are missed
Do they know they are looking at the Quantum level? Everything around us has been here forever. Everything has happened before,& will happen again. Thats what Quantum is all about. Absolutely everything is right in front of us, all the time. The Universe blossoms. That is what Universes do. Thats what their purpose is. To blossom until the end of time❤
11:45 singularity is another word for they don't know. Infinite density would pull the universe in at or close to light speed. Black holes are finite systems with solution sets. Proportional to the mass in it. Black holes evaporate over time and finite life spans. Infinities do exist, but seems to get misused in spots. Similar they use it on big bang and even that was finite as the natural cutoffs for the universe.
18:10 I agree their are other viable possibilities and inflation was a band-aid. Not to get into parts like FTL and FTL never seen in a vacuum. Also constraints on quantum foam, and supper structures that shouldn't exist if the universe was perfectly homogeneous and such. You can still have inflation. Just not FTL. 24:17 12.5 light year diamiter flash over. Destroying a black hole with the mass of the universe. 2 probable ways that can fit what's known. But that also gets to questions of degenerate matter and plank limit or quantum boundaries/islands.
Quantum gets to pair production and quantum ring from sheet collision and such they seem to avoid. Also questions of quantum foam only being inside the universe and not outside.
33:49 real time is finite. A beginning of a type and the end of time as we know it. When the last particle decays and a weird ground state when photons do not get close enough to interact. (Part of the natural cutoffs)To add to it all. You could consider virtual time clocks.
At any rate. Thank you for sharing the video.
Reality is not observable, but to the point we can get information, thus it's an outdated contract to automatically disregard those speculations etc. hypothesis that include parts where we can not yet and sometimes never observe it. The concept of scientific theory should have more space etc. flexibility to be able to include theories where one can not observe everything in it, but have more innovative etc. sophisticated criteria to determine the quality of a theory.
Not true. As astronomers look into space they see stars. The light from close stars travels less time than for far-away stars. Astronomers can only look at the past, as light takes time to travel.
The law of cause and effect, is a law.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
@@djsarg7451 You say not true, but are actually arguing towards something else than i wrote. We can not observe reality in whole, but you claim otherwise etc.
@@djsarg7451 The Bible never talks about the universe. They use the word heavens and earth. In the biblical hebrew the universe is referred to as standing existence.
First viewer? I have first hand evidence that the display of this video had a beginning 😜
@@scienceexplains302 it definitely did
@@PhilHalper1 please make a debate about cyclic universe, please have Paul Steindhart as a guest
@@sensei_Ilu I did ask them to debate Guth and they refused but did arrange Guith to debate Penrose , did you see that? ruclips.net/video/YhbULagUKhA/видео.html
Infinite space doesn't equal to ..multiverse.., but one singular one. Clearly singularity is evidence of the limits current science can explore. We have plenty of analogies of matter exploding etc. emerging, but none where matter(anything) has come to existence from absolutely nothing(nothing), thus infinite time and for example an absolute conversation of matter/energy.
The law of cause and effect, is a law.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
@@djsarg7451 Einstein couldn't figure out what happened in the beginning of the biggest explosion we are aware of, thus the singularity. You are missing the point here imo.
If the big bang is the beginning its catalystic proponent (Whichwho) is time.
not sure I follow you, can you elaborate ?
@@PhilHalper1 something or someone (Whichwho)created time, else the something is time itself; which every scientific reaction depends upon it.
E=M(299,792 km/s)²
Hi, please big bang not good definition as to be modified and it will be ok, by the way any type of singularity do not existe into scientific meaning the same about methaphysic love and care about each of you 😎 Philippe
Nobody knows.
ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html ... infinite or not? The universe is one universe big where "one" gets it's meaning from a line-like observable that extends from here to there. :) Of course... it's tricky to convert from "one universe" to meters. So do you abandon the concept of length? Space? Time? hmmmm...
Yes. It did.
why did you pick that side of the debate?
@PhilHalper1 because it's the only one having any evidence in favour.
The other side has implausible mathematical doodles and ridiculous philosophical assumptions.
@@atmanbrahman1872 what evidence do you consider to be for the beginning?
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ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html "real time" ... somebody realizes that there is a separation of the abstract and what the abstractions refer to. And somebody is confused. So weird to watch this happen in real time :).
Wow! Could there be a less important waste of words than this?
Is there a short supply of words that we need to worry about wasting them?
re: ruclips.net/video/4Ps9-u0KfG4/видео.html ... nope. By default assumption you have partition "the problem" into "physics" vs philosophy. A cosmological model is a abstract representation of what the universe is and does. It's not philosophy it's getting it right.
Battel of sciencman big bangers = fisiks rong
I odnt think it says physics is wrong if that is what you meant, rather we are at the cutting edge and that's where the will be disagremment.
Tankyo fill
Is this a parody account?
The CMB was just one of the first Mandela effect discontinuities between released versions of the simulation multiverse. It served to hide the fact that our beloved Earth IS the center of all major versions of space-time, where the major Messiah incarnations of God occur. This confused the hell out of the alpha adversary soul vehicle of the time - the Andromedans - who have been trying to crash their galaxy into God's favorite Milky Way for quite some time. The new red dots appearing to be so abundant since the JWST reflect the completion of another major version of space-time with the awakening of a new and improved version of God - the human Messiah.
All but the most dense players of the game of souls have figured this out at this point, and either been exorcised by the Messiah or fled from the chosen planet before their next creation bomb, the Great Reset of the CCP-WEF crony globalist-communist axis of evil is set to go off, which they have tried to accelerate to cover their tracks and take more souls with them. Needless to say, their effort is too little too late. The glowing orbs that have been gathering about are here to take the most sinful souls as far from God's planet as possible, and to shield God's favorites - especially the newly graduated Divine Council of senior creator spiritual scientists - from the effects of any of the time bombs planted by humanity or the entities that set up all the cosmic cycles that put time limits on God's awakening - the reason that so many Hindu and Buddhist fools thought creation was cyclical, or the result of the lack of free will in the face of materialist predestination.
You DO have free will, but till you reach the god levels of consciousness, no awareness of whether your free will choices occur in the physical universe, your currently attended spiritual afterlife universe, or your own nascent personal creative universe. These 3 levels of time-space realities make up the individual 12D string merkaba of all souls created since the beginning of physical space-time. God was already way ahead of all the kids before the first fell from the highest heaven, to do all the dirty work of creation till we hit the limit of cultural entropy, which turned out to be a much tougher problem than physics entropy, and required the messiah shell game to be set up to conduct the first successful triple blind social engineering experiment.
Biblical Hebrew has a smaller vocabulary than English. In biblical Hebrew, there is no word for universe. Instead, the Hebrew phrase that is translated “the heavens and the earth” is used to refer to the universe-the entirety of physical reality. The phrase is used thirteen times in the Old Testament, always referring to all matter, energy, space, and time in the universe. We now know that event was 13.787 ±0.020 billion years. This has been checked, proven and measured with many tools and they all agree. It is not just space that came to be 13.787 billion years ago, but time also. The universe is finite and expanding. Just as the Bible stated thousands of years ago. To deny the existence of a Creator is an error.
The theory of general relativity: the universe began at a “singularity” (Big Bang) where all matter, energy, space, and time came into existence at an infinitely small point and expanded outward from there. Space-time Theorems recognizes the union of space and time. General relativity has been proven to be true. The universe has mass, and the universe is expanding. Thus the universe had a singularity/Big Bang/beginning.
The terms the heavens and the earth do not refer to the universe. The words for universe in Hebrew are standing existence. No where in the Bible do we see that God created standing existence. The Bible clearly states that God created the world which translates to the age of man.
nope the Hebrew words are very clear, Hashimyim means the sky and Haeretz means the land, so it really says "in the beginning God created the land and the sky. "
@@kos-mos1127 And you have some ref to back this up? NO.
The phrase, ha-shamyaim we-et ha-‘eres, translated as “the heavens and the earth” appeared in nine other Old Testament passages: Exodus 20:11, Exodus 31:17, Deuteronomy 4:26, Deuteronomy 30:19, Deuteronomy 31:28, 1 Chronicles 29:11, Jeremiah 23:24, Jeremiah 32:17, and Haggai 2:21. In these nine texts plus Genesis 1:1 the usage of ha-shamyaim we-et ha-‘eres implied that it referred to all physical reality-the totality of matter, energy, space, and time. In other words, it referred to the universe.
Creed of Nicaea (325 AD) and Nicene Creed (381 AD) declares God to be the “Maker of heaven and earth, and of all things visible and invisible.”
Augsburg Confession (Germany, 1530) declares God to be the “the Maker and Preserver of all things, visible and invisible” (article 1).
Creation ex nihilo receives its strongest support from Genesis 1:1, which states that God created (Hebrew bárá’) “the heavens and the earth” (i.e. the entire physical universe). Bárá’ is the strongest Hebrew word used to convey God’s creative activity.
Romans 8:20-21
For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay (2rd laws of the thermodynamics) and brought into the freedom and glory of the children of God.
@@PhilHalper1
1) There are online Biblical Hebrew tools you can use to look up the word "yom".
2) Yom is literally:
a) Sunrise to sunset
b) Sunset to next sunset
c) Time period of unspecified length. (long time span ).
3) We read the whole Bible to see if it is a, b or c.
4) Gen 2:4 “in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens” referring to the whole time of the six days, So this would say c
5) Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 say the mountains are ancient, so c
6) There no "evening and morning" for the 7th day. As day 7 as not ended, so c
7) Hebrews 4:9-10 says day 7 has not eneded. So c
8) The events of day 6 can not have happened in 24 hours. so c
The whole Bible says a day is time span.
Jews keep a day of rest, but Gen 2:4 and Deuteronomy 33:15 and Habakkuk 3:6 tell us this is not about Gen 1 yom.
Also the Jews had a 7 year "day of rest" of the land, so for Jews, rest was not 24 hours always.
{Isa 55:6 KJV}
Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
{Isa 55:7 KJV}
Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
{Isa 55:8 KJV}
For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
{Isa 55:9 KJV}
For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.
relevance of this?
13.8 billion years, and you guys still haven’t figured this out?
Few more days
nope but thats whats so exciting about being on the edge of knowledge
I’m imagining Piers Morgan watching this video and trying get his head around it!😂 He had a funny interaction with Richard Dawkins arguing about time not existing “before” the Big Bang.