It's often I see you going through the motions of "I don't quite understand this, but I'm not stopping until I do" It's often been very motivating to hear that type of mentality whenever I'm stuck on something, so thank you
@@1qwerasdzxcvfrtgb I couldn’t agree more! I also admire not only the persistence to figure it out, but the ability to stop and listen when realizing that assumptions may be incorrect. It’s an absolute joy watching people want to learn, and even more so when so many people can leave their assumptions at the door and just listen and discuss :)
It's so cool to see a bunch of my favorite channels interacting with each other. Even if I'm simply watching a video that was recorded hundreds of miles away, it just feels like such a tightly knit group. I love your work, it makes NO sense to me and it is so cool.
Congratulations! I hope that not only will you continue to find new an interesting people to bounce off of, but that you will refine this research as you go.
I really appreciate that Destin even when out of his feild still is fascinated and attracted to learning and you can see his mind trying to join the dot together on characteristics that are analogues to familiar concept because he knows everything is related and just a different spinoff from the energy and forces in nature ! He is the type of mind that can see the whole picture when you explain a concept that uses a variety of engineering diciplines.All of you guys are rocket scientists and have the most important attribute which is the ability to communicate your ideas not just to the small audience in your field but anybody who is interested in learning and that is a superpower! well done humans and keep going !
omg dude, you hit a home run with this video. The team, the home lab, Destin's jaw drop when he arrived, the freaking toroid portal generator (lol), everything!
I really love that Joel took the time to take someone new to the engineering and RUclips community and it's reaching out to make it more a collaboration and learning community. That's very awesome. And this was rather informational.
Also wanted to state I'm a new subscriber. I want to thank you for shouting out Max Amps. Graphene really is the future. I'm very much into science and math. The fact that the two isn't more mainstream in this country saddens me deeply. My wife is from Cuba and I'm so in awe of the Cuban people for their ingenuity and perseverance in dealing with outdated tech. Fringe Science is where innovation happens. Keep up the good work
I've studied plasma physics some years ago. What you see here is called capacitive AC discharge. When you wind a coil around and apply high frequency AC you get a situation when neighboring turns became oppositely charged and create an oscillating electric field between the turns. This field accelerates free flying electrons in tube and if field is strong enough electrons ionoze Xe atoms and produce avalance discharge. This Electric field is strongest nest to turns that is why you have torus plasma. The lifting of torus is related to convection as you mentioned.
seems like for the resonance to occur, the AC frequency would have to be a multiple of number of turns on the coil and ideally there should be an even number of turns, correct?
To have Justin and intezga both stumped, you have such an amazing journey ahead of you! And I'm here for it! Loved this, this reminds me of the old RUclips, no fuss just pure enjoyment of learning this is perfect!
Indeed! When Justin went: "Well, I think it rises.... oh, I'm sorry, I should quit talking" when he realized that this young kid was about to blow his mind wide open, really drove the point home. This kid, be it on RUclips or elsewhere, or preferably both, will go places for sure!
I just have to say that, as an Alabama native, all of this happening in so close to home with Cameron and Destin is both freaking AMAZING and makes me incredibly jealous that I haven't met either of them yet LOL. Great work on the video man, and I'm happy for you that you got this opportunity!
15:08 The most fascinating part for devices like this for me is the spin interaction to "prime" it and how easy that is to miss, along with the right mix of xenon. Just think how many innocuous do-nothing experiments have gone on in the world that could all just be missing 1 variable in their process to create an undiscovered effect. Imagine Faraday using a lead bar with a coil of wire instead of a permanent magnet and how far back that would set us.
First video of yours I've seen. Well done! I love that it was literally just a bunch of minds learning and trying to figure this thing out. Just geeking out at a basic level!
@BackMacSci This device is amazing! I appreciate your time in this man. I would absolutely appreciate it if you did some tests with this for me. If you are not aware of the Plasmoid Unification Model, it may interest you. If you are able to change voltage and frequency input, it would be fascinating to see if specific frequencies affect the plasma. The voltage may need to be adjusted to get a stable formation. So examples would be like the 9 Solfeggio Frequencies. This could then be extended using the Unification Model to possibly levitate specific elements... possibly? However, with low power, the samples need to be tiny. Thanks for your time and good luck.
Holy hell, man. It's so good to see you getting the recognition you deserve. I really hope this keeps going and you get even more recognition. Good stuff, my man
Man this video just made me super happy to watch! Honestly followed you pretty early on just because this was a neat project. Didn't expect it to go anywhere, but here you are now! Reminds me of me at your age when I started working as a monster truck announcer... Basically somebody I knew in the industry called me up one day, and I just faked it until I made it... Truth is, learning to jump at opportunities is half the battle sometimes. Put yourself in the right circles and those opportunities just keep coming. Congratulations man.
This just popped into my recommended, so happy I caught it!! This seems like such a dream opportunity, I hope youtube keeps pushing this video to a lot of new people!
Been following you for about the last year and it's wild to see the recognition you've gotten from other creators. And congrats on winning first in the ee festival!
The sheer level of intelligence and curiosity in that room, and none of them are the least bit offended by having wrong guesses, or lacking in knowledge, I love it!
check out "zerg labs (teslacoilpro)" he has some next level toroidal experiments going on, such as a stable version of your setup in this video and even like a string of balls spinning, etc.. also when going for the next level in understanding plasma physics look for Eric Lerner's LppFusion research, aneutronic fusion by creating tiny plasmoids, he to has a great channel, a bit more physics/astronomy/his research and development related delivered nice and slow as he's old (fuzzy mad scientist vibe 100%) cheers@@BackMacSci
I hugely admire @Integza for making this happen! CEO levels of networking and initiative, bringing these people together, and such a valuable thing for the world of science.
i wonder if adding a coil on top would help stabilize the ion ring. it would need to be the same frequency but opposite magnetic pole. maybe a bigger mosfet could drive 2 coils in parallel - that would keep the circuit really simple.
Thats great! First saw your plasma torrid quite a while ago and was super interested in it! Wanted to try to make one myself after that lol Its awesome that you got to meet those guys! What a awesome chance to have! And also love your necklace! Can't wait to see what else ya do!
How cool and fun! I talked with Destin over video chat many years ago a little about hydrodynamics going on in one of his videos (Richtmyer-Meshkov hydrodynamic instability visible at the surface of water in the pool for his 'underwater AK-47 video' if I remember right) even though I'm about as far from an expert as it's possible to get on the topic of such things. He seems like such a nice guy. I think the pearls-on-a-string effect in the torus here is probably related to either standing waves due to the oscillating nature of the current, or the Franck-Hertz experiment / phenomenon which gives rise to the striations in the so called positive column of a DC plasma discharge, possibly both. Though by no means a perfect analog, the general setup of the plasma torus strikes me as potentially being a superb pedagogical tool for the illustration of (at least part of) what's occurring in a tokamak, and at the very least, would serve as a fantastic adjunct to the usual ordinary plasma globe such institutions usually have somewhere in their lobbies which they use to illustrate some of the rudiments of plasma physics to visitors and kids on tours of the facility.
If anyone would like a Destin-level explanation of the circuit function -- a class E oscillator is pretty analogous to bowing a violin string: During the constant-voltage (saturated switch) phase, current builds in the circuit inductance (compare: force builds in the spring rate of the string and bow). The constant low voltage is analogous to the small velocity difference (zero actually) between string and bow during the "stick" phase. During the free-ringing (off) phase, current is released into the circuit capacitance, and a sinusoidal hump results (compare: force is released and velocity ramps up, between string and bow); the "slip" phase. Thus a class E oscillator is analogous to mechanical stick-slip motion. The transistor, with positive feedback from the circuit, is analogous to the change in friction coefficient between sliding and static states. To further accurately model the analogy, we should note the resonator is not a string (a constrained transmission line more or less, among other things i.e. resonances of the violin body), but more of a lumped-element network with stronger bandpass filter characteristic; it's more like bowing a glass or bowl, something heavier and stiffer than a string. (Although, there is also a "Class F" amplifier when the tuning network includes harmonics, much as the frequency response of the string does!) The plasma discharge, manifests as some equivalent load resistance at the oscillator, and thus the supply voltage/current varies with it; there's probably not a great analogy to plasma V/I characteristics in mechanical terms (you could hand-wave something about non-Newtonian fluids, but that doesn't really define anything, lol), but to say that it presents some loss or load effect, is fair enough; consider the increased bowing effort required on a damped glass (say you're holding your finger against it or something) versus not. As for the plasma motion, probably something between convection and how ionization moves with respect to it, and how the AC field is shaped by the plasma itself. It probably doesn't rise evenly (at least in most conditions) because, if it did, there would be a point below the ring of higher electric field, which therefore attracts free charges, and continues to glow; evidently this doesn't apply evenly, but some regions lift up. The other thing it brings to mind is, if you have a piece of metal in an induction heater, it will want to stand up, aligning with the field lines, to minimize the (Lorentz) force on it. But the further away the ring goes from the coil, the less current flows in it; and less opposing current means more field strength below the ring, encouraging ionization there. So it seems to be a competition between ionzation, convection and a little force. Ignition, is pretty simple at least at a hand-wave; I would guess triboelectricity from turning the bulb, yeah. (Or maybe piezoelectricity over defects in the glass, but those probably can't be more than microscopic?) Obviously, an external ignition source helps, but really anything strong enough to cause ionization (and it really doesn't take much, a hundred volts is trivial to make by electrostatic effort) will do, and then ions are accelerated, conductive loops form, and pretty soon a glowing ring has formed.
I've been following you for a long, long time and I'm so glad to see your channel doing so well! If you ever need any chemicals or elements for your experiments let me know and they're all yours! Keep up the great work! 😃
I cannot tell you how cool it is to see a bunch of young guys and 2 old dogs all getting excited about figuring something out together. This is how learning really should work. I love it.
As a mechanical engineer myself i resonate with destin on the intro so much, and also later when you can see how he just tries to understand and listens to you explain the device, even if this electrical shenanigans arent part of our field of expertise (mech enigneers do know about electricity but its not our main thing you know) its just nice to see and learns how they work from the experts
I am trying to remember where I used to hear the music playing 21:01-21:42 (end music), particularly the exact section 21:01-21:14 , maybe in another RUclips channel (or elsewhere?), but the section 21:01-21:14 did always play at the end of each episode or clip. Any suggestions of what that could be? (besides the meme "Darude - Sandstorm", of course.)
13:06 its amazing ti see destin geeking out and then snapping back to his good polite nature to let the individual who is the expert talk. Thats a very hard thing to do especially for people who are often the expert in the room.
My first thought is, "oh look, more sci-tubers". After that I'm thinking induction heating. The plasma is in an enclosed space being cooked and when it gets energized enough it rises up, loses energy and comes back to be charged some more by the coil. As a plasma it doesn't lose energy the way a hot pan would, nor does it strictly gain it the same way, but it's still pretty neat. I'll have to try watching the video later since I fell asleep, but the intro was good, and that haircut was 1000x better.
@BackMacSci Create another coil with a matching resonant frequency of your current coil. Turn the machine on and place the new coil near the first one in order to interact. Attempt to harvest voltage off of the plasma? Remember you would likely also need an iron core that connects the two together. (like in a transformer.) You may also consider an array of smaller coils similarly to meta-materials or even possibly larger coil.
Cool to see all of you get together. I believe that when you spined the glass globe on the coil it produces a capatance effect that exited the gas into plasma then it picks up on it's spinning electromagnetic vortex and the rest is what you all figured to be convection shape of the glass and like a Jacob's latter effect. Done some crazy stuff with plasma globes and also small Tesla coils and exciters. Looks like so much fun and I loved the video. Thank you😊
I love listening to you narrate to Destin, especially towards the end of the video, you have the same excitement and pure wonder in your voice like Ke Huy Quan's character OB in Loki Season 2. I hope you go places.
The magnetic field of the coils are shaping the plasma into the torrid shape because there are two field interacting. Try adjusting the field strength and see how it affects the plasma. Maybe modulation of the hertz will stabilize the torrid
I'd previously not known of Cameron before this video, but I'm happy to announce that he is my new best friend that has no clue of, or want to know who I am. Great collection in that house!
I sat here watching dude talking about some "Mosfet" & I was thrilled the whole time. I bet this video would be 100 Times more fun If I knew what that was. lmao. Subbed for sure since THIS is the type of Science I LOVE. Tesla stuff and Free Energy is where my desires are. Gotta LEARN MORE! Thanks for this video!
not only was this impressively neat to look at the amount of just pure happiness that was produced on all sides was even better i am so glad you all got together
You have got a new subscriber in me. I wish you the best of luck in the future. I really like your style of filmmaking. It reminded me of Denstin. Thank you and good luck!
My Explanation: This is an Inductivity coupled Glow-discharge Plasma with the plasma as a 'single turn' secondary (torus) operating in the Series-Resonant mode, The reason why the torus is flying away from the primary is due to the Lenz's law, it moves to the weakest point of the magnetic field strength from the primary. the most astounding aspect i find here is the triboelectric triggering of the plasma which has a lot to do with the plasma+ Glass+ the series -resonant excitation associated with it. Brilliant experimentation! keep it up!
Dude, you're so lucky! I know that $650 plane ticket hurt on a student budget, but... DAMN! Dustin, Joel AND Cameron in the same room picking each others brains over your project? You just got added to a very short list of awesome creators, my RUclips list Keep up the content, looking forward to other projects.
Tony: Pretty decent tech. Cycles per second were a little low. You could have doubled up your rotations. You focused the repulsor energy through ionised plasma channels. It’s effective. Not very efficient. But it’s a passable knock-off.
It's great to see the interactions between established RUclipsrs interacting with some of the new content creators. You guys look like you had a great time there.
I think it works so-electric field ionize xeon,and it's work as secondary winding of transformer-primary winding induce current in plasma and ends of spark attracting each other,forming from linear spark circle
@BackMacSci Hi! I work in eddy current material testing and it looks to me that what you have is best visual representation of eddy current. Normally eddy currents would be induced in conductive surfaces - you yourself mentioned that it is effectively an induction cooker. I suppose the low pressure gasses when agitated may create permissive - i.e. low impedance - area and hence we can enjoy the show of an visually available eddy current.
I saw a wonderful demonstration of a plasma toroid at the royal institution, its on their RUclips channel in a video called "High-voltage physics - with David Ricketts" its at around the 57 minute mark in the video. One of the most fascinating things I've seen.
@19:51 "It was lit!" 🤣 Also - I loved this video. And very well done on your build. Seeing people get genuinely excited together about stuff like this never gets old.
The glass is an isolator. Inside the bubble of the glass, a positive charge searches for ground and rolls along the inside of the glass. Put a generator on each end of a tube and oscillate it.
It’s apparent to me, maybe I’m wrong, that the torrid ring gets its instability to lift the one side of the ring from the fact that there’s the intersection or cross over point on the primary coil from the lower and upper windings, and that point looks like to be about 90° perpendicular to the apex of the lifted ring. Not sure WHY, but it is that. Maybe is caused by a cleft in the field pinched from the coil conductors crossing over paths of each other. Since it is such a simplistic coil with two fat windings of wire, any deviation in coil path also would deviate the fields.
You deserve all the success. I remember following along with the videos about you making this thing. Awesome that you got this far, and good luck with your PhD!
@BackMacSci The arc rises because: Jacob's ladder, The arc heats and ionizes the air in its immediate vicinity. The ionized air maintains the arc, but the heat causes the ionized air to rise, thus the arc rises with the heated and ionized air, becoming less and less stable as it climbs and the separation between the wires increases, until the arc finally breaks. Then it starts again at the base.
You can see Destin is really thinking about it even though it's outside his field. He's like make connections between the stuff that he knows and this stuff that he's just heard. Very interesting
This video captures spirit of youtube I want to see: pleasing b rolls, vloggish nature, cool collab, and the main content is something original, not yet another reaction channel. Awesome!
The convection current by nature of flow carries a torque. This torque provides a force in the lateral direction. Right hand law of convection current. Curl your fingers around the magnetic field lines, point your index finger along the direction of current flow, and point your thumb perpendicular as the direction of applied force.
One of my favorite channels "DiodeGoneWild" just disassembled & created a schematic for one of the toroidal induction lamps that you guys talk about at 21:40. The name of his video is " induction light- what's inside, schematic, experiments" 👍
Man, this is awesome. I was watching SED and Integza long time before but you being able to show them what you build end them appreciating it just made my day! Hope you guys can collab on more :)
Fun device! Thank you for showing me, and thank you to Cameron for hosting us!
It's often I see you going through the motions of "I don't quite understand this, but I'm not stopping until I do"
It's often been very motivating to hear that type of mentality whenever I'm stuck on something, so thank you
@@1qwerasdzxcvfrtgb I couldn’t agree more! I also admire not only the persistence to figure it out, but the ability to stop and listen when realizing that assumptions may be incorrect. It’s an absolute joy watching people want to learn, and even more so when so many people can leave their assumptions at the door and just listen and discuss :)
Destin is the nicest guy.
@backmacsci keep it up. This was great
Thank you, Destin, glad you liked it!
It's so cool to see a bunch of my favorite channels interacting with each other. Even if I'm simply watching a video that was recorded hundreds of miles away, it just feels like such a tightly knit group. I love your work, it makes NO sense to me and it is so cool.
This... its always amazing when it is two that you wouldn't ever even think would do a colab.
Even though Destin wasn’t there, Opensauce has been the best collaborative event for science and maker RUclipsrs ever.
Most definitely keep the fun going an I love seeing smart people stumped on what's going on. It's what usually leads to a great big discovery ! ❤
it’s awesome to see to all try to figure out something they don’t fully understand
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Congratulations! I hope that not only will you continue to find new an interesting people to bounce off of, but that you will refine this research as you go.
That's the plan! I'm applying to phd programs right now
Good luck @BackMacSci !!
@@BackMacSci I think I guess what your Thesis will be...
@@BackMacSci Good luck!
DUDE WHAT?!?!?! YOU MADE IT BIG LOL CONGRATS!!!!
I really appreciate that Destin even when out of his feild still is fascinated and attracted to learning and you can see his mind trying to join the dot together on characteristics that are analogues to familiar concept because he knows everything is related and just a different spinoff from the energy and forces in nature ! He is the type of mind that can see the whole picture when you explain a concept that uses a variety of engineering diciplines.All of you guys are rocket scientists and have the most important attribute which is the ability to communicate your ideas not just to the small audience in your field but anybody who is interested in learning and that is a superpower! well done humans and keep going !
Dustin coolness bends spacetime
Destin it is then 👍🏻
cool stuff is cool stuff, it doesn't matter what a persons field of expertise is.
thats why hes smarter every day
@@daemonhat true dat !
omg dude, you hit a home run with this video. The team, the home lab, Destin's jaw drop when he arrived, the freaking toroid portal generator (lol), everything!
I really love that Joel took the time to take someone new to the engineering and RUclips community and it's reaching out to make it more a collaboration and learning community. That's very awesome. And this was rather informational.
I LOVE seeing the science community come together like this!
Also wanted to state I'm a new subscriber. I want to thank you for shouting out Max Amps. Graphene really is the future. I'm very much into science and math. The fact that the two isn't more mainstream in this country saddens me deeply. My wife is from Cuba and I'm so in awe of the Cuban people for their ingenuity and perseverance in dealing with outdated tech. Fringe Science is where innovation happens. Keep up the good work
I've studied plasma physics some years ago. What you see here is called capacitive AC discharge. When you wind a coil around and apply high frequency AC you get a situation when neighboring turns became oppositely charged and create an oscillating electric field between the turns. This field accelerates free flying electrons in tube and if field is strong enough electrons ionoze Xe atoms and produce avalance discharge. This Electric field is strongest nest to turns that is why you have torus plasma. The lifting of torus is related to convection as you mentioned.
seems like for the resonance to occur, the AC frequency would have to be a multiple of number of turns on the coil and ideally there should be an even number of turns, correct?
To have Justin and intezga both stumped, you have such an amazing journey ahead of you! And I'm here for it! Loved this, this reminds me of the old RUclips, no fuss just pure enjoyment of learning this is perfect!
Destin ;)
Indeed! When Justin went: "Well, I think it rises.... oh, I'm sorry, I should quit talking" when he realized that this young kid was about to blow his mind wide open, really drove the point home. This kid, be it on RUclips or elsewhere, or preferably both, will go places for sure!
It's just so cool to see how your channel has grown lately.
i’m proud my guy what an accomplishment you got here can’t wait to watch the video
How did I miss this collab between some of my favorite RUclips channels hidden in a newcomers channel ? This is awesome..
I just have to say that, as an Alabama native, all of this happening in so close to home with Cameron and Destin is both freaking AMAZING and makes me incredibly jealous that I haven't met either of them yet LOL. Great work on the video man, and I'm happy for you that you got this opportunity!
15:08 The most fascinating part for devices like this for me is the spin interaction to "prime" it and how easy that is to miss, along with the right mix of xenon.
Just think how many innocuous do-nothing experiments have gone on in the world that could all just be missing 1 variable in their process to create an undiscovered effect.
Imagine Faraday using a lead bar with a coil of wire instead of a permanent magnet and how far back that would set us.
First video of yours I've seen. Well done! I love that it was literally just a bunch of minds learning and trying to figure this thing out. Just geeking out at a basic level!
@BackMacSci This device is amazing! I appreciate your time in this man. I would absolutely appreciate it if you did some tests with this for me. If you are not aware of the Plasmoid Unification Model, it may interest you. If you are able to change voltage and frequency input, it would be fascinating to see if specific frequencies affect the plasma. The voltage may need to be adjusted to get a stable formation. So examples would be like the 9 Solfeggio Frequencies. This could then be extended using the Unification Model to possibly levitate specific elements... possibly? However, with low power, the samples need to be tiny. Thanks for your time and good luck.
Holy hell, man. It's so good to see you getting the recognition you deserve. I really hope this keeps going and you get even more recognition. Good stuff, my man
Please never lose that genuine person that you are. Thank you bro. You're LIT
Man this video just made me super happy to watch! Honestly followed you pretty early on just because this was a neat project. Didn't expect it to go anywhere, but here you are now! Reminds me of me at your age when I started working as a monster truck announcer... Basically somebody I knew in the industry called me up one day, and I just faked it until I made it... Truth is, learning to jump at opportunities is half the battle sometimes. Put yourself in the right circles and those opportunities just keep coming. Congratulations man.
Good job kid. A man without ambition is a butterfly without wings.
This was awesome, start to finish - and my lady really loved the clouds from your flight. We both say THANK YOU!
I'm so glad you loved the cloud part, its one of my favorite parts of the video!
This just popped into my recommended, so happy I caught it!! This seems like such a dream opportunity, I hope youtube keeps pushing this video to a lot of new people!
Been following you for about the last year and it's wild to see the recognition you've gotten from other creators.
And congrats on winning first in the ee festival!
The sheer level of intelligence and curiosity in that room, and none of them are the least bit offended by having wrong guesses, or lacking in knowledge, I love it!
Dude I remember finding your channel when I was in high school. Like, 7 years ago by now. It's so cool to see you going this far. Keep it up!!
Thank you, man!
check out "zerg labs (teslacoilpro)" he has some next level toroidal experiments going on, such as a stable version of your setup in this video and even like a string of balls spinning, etc.. also when going for the next level in understanding plasma physics look for Eric Lerner's LppFusion research, aneutronic fusion by creating tiny plasmoids, he to has a great channel, a bit more physics/astronomy/his research and development related delivered nice and slow as he's old (fuzzy mad scientist vibe 100%) cheers@@BackMacSci
I hugely admire @Integza for making this happen! CEO levels of networking and initiative, bringing these people together, and such a valuable thing for the world of science.
i wonder if adding a coil on top would help stabilize the ion ring. it would need to be the same frequency but opposite magnetic pole. maybe a bigger mosfet could drive 2 coils in parallel - that would keep the circuit really simple.
Thats great! First saw your plasma torrid quite a while ago and was super interested in it! Wanted to try to make one myself after that lol Its awesome that you got to meet those guys! What a awesome chance to have!
And also love your necklace!
Can't wait to see what else ya do!
I love to see Destin's humbleness in front of a young guy like you with a cool thing
How cool and fun! I talked with Destin over video chat many years ago a little about hydrodynamics going on in one of his videos (Richtmyer-Meshkov hydrodynamic instability visible at the surface of water in the pool for his 'underwater AK-47 video' if I remember right) even though I'm about as far from an expert as it's possible to get on the topic of such things. He seems like such a nice guy. I think the pearls-on-a-string effect in the torus here is probably related to either standing waves due to the oscillating nature of the current, or the Franck-Hertz experiment / phenomenon which gives rise to the striations in the so called positive column of a DC plasma discharge, possibly both. Though by no means a perfect analog, the general setup of the plasma torus strikes me as potentially being a superb pedagogical tool for the illustration of (at least part of) what's occurring in a tokamak, and at the very least, would serve as a fantastic adjunct to the usual ordinary plasma globe such institutions usually have somewhere in their lobbies which they use to illustrate some of the rudiments of plasma physics to visitors and kids on tours of the facility.
thank you Muonium, I think this would be such an amazing teaching tool for science classrooms everywhere
If anyone would like a Destin-level explanation of the circuit function -- a class E oscillator is pretty analogous to bowing a violin string:
During the constant-voltage (saturated switch) phase, current builds in the circuit inductance (compare: force builds in the spring rate of the string and bow). The constant low voltage is analogous to the small velocity difference (zero actually) between string and bow during the "stick" phase.
During the free-ringing (off) phase, current is released into the circuit capacitance, and a sinusoidal hump results (compare: force is released and velocity ramps up, between string and bow); the "slip" phase.
Thus a class E oscillator is analogous to mechanical stick-slip motion. The transistor, with positive feedback from the circuit, is analogous to the change in friction coefficient between sliding and static states.
To further accurately model the analogy, we should note the resonator is not a string (a constrained transmission line more or less, among other things i.e. resonances of the violin body), but more of a lumped-element network with stronger bandpass filter characteristic; it's more like bowing a glass or bowl, something heavier and stiffer than a string. (Although, there is also a "Class F" amplifier when the tuning network includes harmonics, much as the frequency response of the string does!)
The plasma discharge, manifests as some equivalent load resistance at the oscillator, and thus the supply voltage/current varies with it; there's probably not a great analogy to plasma V/I characteristics in mechanical terms (you could hand-wave something about non-Newtonian fluids, but that doesn't really define anything, lol), but to say that it presents some loss or load effect, is fair enough; consider the increased bowing effort required on a damped glass (say you're holding your finger against it or something) versus not.
As for the plasma motion, probably something between convection and how ionization moves with respect to it, and how the AC field is shaped by the plasma itself. It probably doesn't rise evenly (at least in most conditions) because, if it did, there would be a point below the ring of higher electric field, which therefore attracts free charges, and continues to glow; evidently this doesn't apply evenly, but some regions lift up. The other thing it brings to mind is, if you have a piece of metal in an induction heater, it will want to stand up, aligning with the field lines, to minimize the (Lorentz) force on it. But the further away the ring goes from the coil, the less current flows in it; and less opposing current means more field strength below the ring, encouraging ionization there. So it seems to be a competition between ionzation, convection and a little force.
Ignition, is pretty simple at least at a hand-wave; I would guess triboelectricity from turning the bulb, yeah. (Or maybe piezoelectricity over defects in the glass, but those probably can't be more than microscopic?) Obviously, an external ignition source helps, but really anything strong enough to cause ionization (and it really doesn't take much, a hundred volts is trivial to make by electrostatic effort) will do, and then ions are accelerated, conductive loops form, and pretty soon a glowing ring has formed.
I've been following you for a long, long time and I'm so glad to see your channel doing so well! If you ever need any chemicals or elements for your experiments let me know and they're all yours! Keep up the great work! 😃
Thank you so much, I'm happy to know you are a viewer of mine. I will let you know about chemicals I need in the future!
I cannot tell you how cool it is to see a bunch of young guys and 2 old dogs all getting excited about figuring something out together. This is how learning really should work. I love it.
I’m glad I’m here
I'm glad you're glad you're here
As a mechanical engineer myself i resonate with destin on the intro so much, and also later when you can see how he just tries to understand and listens to you explain the device, even if this electrical shenanigans arent part of our field of expertise (mech enigneers do know about electricity but its not our main thing you know) its just nice to see and learns how they work from the experts
b r o WHAT?!
Here's some money to do more science. I'm glad I found you at 20k subs, because soon it'll be a lot more.
Thank you so much!
I want one
“Then I got so excited that I forgot to record Cameron’s reaction”
I love that. Just the need to share a common love for the science.
I am trying to remember where I used to hear the music playing 21:01-21:42 (end music), particularly the exact section 21:01-21:14 , maybe in another RUclips channel (or elsewhere?), but the section 21:01-21:14 did always play at the end of each episode or clip. Any suggestions of what that could be? (besides the meme "Darude - Sandstorm", of course.)
I LOVE seeing the science community come together like this!. It's just so cool to see how your channel has grown lately..
Love the haircut! looking look love the collaboration. Great style! Looking forward to more man!
13:06 its amazing ti see destin geeking out and then snapping back to his good polite nature to let the individual who is the expert talk. Thats a very hard thing to do especially for people who are often the expert in the room.
Hey Brother... know this... It is a pleasure to know souls like you are sharing these days with me in this reality. Lovin it.
It's so lovley to see the "big guys" having so much fun with your little device.
Very enjoyable video. Keep up the good work. :)
Living the dream! Keep it coming. Thanks for introducing us to Cameron.
@BackMacSci What kind of gas is contained within the glass? Is this the same type of glass used in vacuum-tubes? very curious
My first thought is, "oh look, more sci-tubers". After that I'm thinking induction heating. The plasma is in an enclosed space being cooked and when it gets energized enough it rises up, loses energy and comes back to be charged some more by the coil. As a plasma it doesn't lose energy the way a hot pan would, nor does it strictly gain it the same way, but it's still pretty neat. I'll have to try watching the video later since I fell asleep, but the intro was good, and that haircut was 1000x better.
Very interesting. I couldn't stop watching and listening to everybody. One of the best RUclips posts I'e seen all year. Thank You.
I'm really happy to see where this project has gotten you! Congratulations :)
Thank you Vitaly. Especially for being the one to teach me Faraday's Law of Induction😂
@BackMacSci Create another coil with a matching resonant frequency of your current coil. Turn the machine on and place the new coil near the first one in order to interact. Attempt to harvest voltage off of the plasma? Remember you would likely also need an iron core that connects the two together. (like in a transformer.) You may also consider an array of smaller coils similarly to meta-materials or even possibly larger coil.
Cool to see all of you get together. I believe that when you spined the glass globe on the coil it produces a capatance effect that exited the gas into plasma then it picks up on it's spinning electromagnetic vortex and the rest is what you all figured to be convection shape of the glass and like a Jacob's latter effect. Done some crazy stuff with plasma globes and also small Tesla coils and exciters. Looks like so much fun and I loved the video. Thank you😊
Many speak electrical engineering, few understand electrical engineering.
A true pleasure to see your work.
I knew your work was going to get attention. Keep being awesome.
I love listening to you narrate to Destin, especially towards the end of the video, you have the same excitement and pure wonder in your voice like Ke Huy Quan's character OB in Loki Season 2. I hope you go places.
The magnetic field of the coils are shaping the plasma into the torrid shape because there are two field interacting. Try adjusting the field strength and see how it affects the plasma. Maybe modulation of the hertz will stabilize the torrid
I'd previously not known of Cameron before this video, but I'm happy to announce that he is my new best friend that has no clue of, or want to know who I am. Great collection in that house!
That’s so awesome that you got to meet them fam. That’s so sick.
So much fun seeing so many of my favorite RUclipsrs all together in one place wowing over what you built! Thanks for the video!
Nice outro, loved the clips and the music!! made the video whole.
GJ!
I sat here watching dude talking about some "Mosfet" & I was thrilled the whole time. I bet this video would be 100 Times more fun If I knew what that was. lmao. Subbed for sure since THIS is the type of Science I LOVE. Tesla stuff and Free Energy is where my desires are. Gotta LEARN MORE! Thanks for this video!
Fun watching Destin's process of trying to work it out. Nice job mate
not only was this impressively neat to look at the amount of just pure happiness that was produced on all sides was even better i am so glad you all got together
This was a lot of fun to see everyone nerding out together. Thanks for sharing!
You have got a new subscriber in me. I wish you the best of luck in the future. I really like your style of filmmaking. It reminded me of Denstin. Thank you and good luck!
My Explanation: This is an Inductivity coupled Glow-discharge Plasma with the plasma as a 'single turn' secondary (torus) operating in the Series-Resonant mode, The reason why the torus is flying away from the primary is due to the Lenz's law, it moves to the weakest point of the magnetic field strength from the primary. the most astounding aspect i find here is the triboelectric triggering of the plasma which has a lot to do with the plasma+ Glass+ the series -resonant excitation associated with it. Brilliant experimentation! keep it up!
Dude, you're so lucky! I know that $650 plane ticket hurt on a student budget, but... DAMN! Dustin, Joel AND Cameron in the same room picking each others brains over your project? You just got added to a very short list of awesome creators, my RUclips list Keep up the content, looking forward to other projects.
¡Gracias!
Thanks so much for sharing! I want to make it!! I’ll keep watching you
What an amazing video! Thank you for showing us hoow you can use DC power to drive mosfets into AC power.
Tony: Pretty decent tech. Cycles per second were a little low. You could have doubled up your rotations. You focused the repulsor energy through ionised plasma channels. It’s effective. Not very efficient. But it’s a passable knock-off.
It's great to see the interactions between established RUclipsrs interacting with some of the new content creators. You guys look like you had a great time there.
Its refreshing to see someone else truly enjoy clouds on the flight :)
I think it works so-electric field ionize xeon,and it's work as secondary winding of transformer-primary winding induce current in plasma and ends of spark attracting each other,forming from linear spark circle
Really really dope. I love when my favorite RUclipsrs collide and this has 4!
Great video and collab just one question does anyone know the name of the track that olays at the end of the video?
@BackMacSci Hi! I work in eddy current material testing and it looks to me that what you have is best visual representation of eddy current. Normally eddy currents would be induced in conductive surfaces - you yourself mentioned that it is effectively an induction cooker. I suppose the low pressure gasses when agitated may create permissive - i.e. low impedance - area and hence we can enjoy the show of an visually available eddy current.
I saw a wonderful demonstration of a plasma toroid at the royal institution, its on their RUclips channel in a video called "High-voltage physics - with David Ricketts" its at around the 57 minute mark in the video. One of the most fascinating things I've seen.
Congratulations on joining the Big Boys club of fascinating content creators!
Great video!! Nerd show-and-tell!! Love the interactions!!
Its so awesome to see you Destin and Integza all in the same video, in Huntsville no less! Glad you got to see our rocket city!
@19:51 "It was lit!" 🤣
Also - I loved this video. And very well done on your build. Seeing people get genuinely excited together about stuff like this never gets old.
The glass is an isolator. Inside the bubble of the glass, a positive charge searches for ground and rolls along the inside of the glass. Put a generator on each end of a tube and oscillate it.
First video of yours iv come across but I’m really happy for ya man. Seems like you had a great time!
I just live to see you both together, Dustin and Joel, very good job mate's. Good luck for you
Well that's really cool to see all of my favorite youtubers in the same room nerding out!
It’s apparent to me, maybe I’m wrong, that the torrid ring gets its instability to lift the one side of the ring from the fact that there’s the intersection or cross over point on the primary coil from the lower and upper windings, and that point looks like to be about 90° perpendicular to the apex of the lifted ring.
Not sure WHY, but it is that.
Maybe is caused by a cleft in the field pinched from the coil conductors crossing over paths of each other. Since it is such a simplistic coil with two fat windings of wire, any deviation in coil path also would deviate the fields.
I'm so happy for you that you got to meet these Giants 🤗
What an amazing video! Love to see the collaboration between members of the community, brilliant.
You deserve all the success. I remember following along with the videos about you making this thing. Awesome that you got this far, and good luck with your PhD!
It's so interesting seeing the mechanical engineer mindset analysis of this.
@BackMacSci The arc rises because: Jacob's ladder, The arc heats and ionizes the air in its immediate vicinity. The ionized air maintains the arc, but the heat causes the ionized air to rise, thus the arc rises with the heated and ionized air, becoming less and less stable as it climbs and the separation between the wires increases, until the arc finally breaks. Then it starts again at the base.
You can see Destin is really thinking about it even though it's outside his field. He's like make connections between the stuff that he knows and this stuff that he's just heard. Very interesting
This video captures spirit of youtube I want to see: pleasing b rolls, vloggish nature, cool collab, and the main content is something original, not yet another reaction channel. Awesome!
One of my favorite things to do with a new geek friend is going to their house and geeking out to all their geek toys!
“It looks like this thing here.” That got a good chuckle out of me.
The convection current by nature of flow carries a torque. This torque provides a force in the lateral direction. Right hand law of convection current. Curl your fingers around the magnetic field lines, point your index finger along the direction of current flow, and point your thumb perpendicular as the direction of applied force.
One of my favorite channels "DiodeGoneWild" just disassembled & created a schematic for one of the toroidal induction lamps that you guys talk about at 21:40.
The name of his video is " induction light- what's inside, schematic, experiments" 👍
Man, this is awesome. I was watching SED and Integza long time before but you being able to show them what you build end them appreciating it just made my day! Hope you guys can collab on more :)