Could you please tone down the background music. I am not British and have enough problems trying to understand what these professional people are saying. I love these videos so much and it would help our enjoyment to be able to understand every word.
I was reading up the other day on why this is such an issue for these RUclips docs, and it seems like there was a trend of the background music for tv docs being fairly loud back when this was aired (2008, but the trend was pretty much from the 90s through the streaming boom) and something about how the tv shows get converted for RUclips/streaming ramps up the music even more. Idk why it’s not something they can fix, though, my brain isn’t technical enough to understand why not.
If it's any consolation, us Brits are struggling too. It's a really annoying trend that RUclips docs have to put this constant music in the background, and loudly; it wasn't in the original, if you can find it elsewhere x
Why was it written off that the ancient South Americans and Pacific Islanders could have made contact? To me, it smacks of the same derision that archaeologists of the past had to claim that the ancient Mesoamericans couldn't possibly have built the pyramids left behind by the Maya and Aztec.
I thought they said it WAS normal to tie the hands there but they wondered at the leather straps, which is different from the string/rope they normally see
I would love for them to look at the isotopes in his teeth and see where he grew up. Just because his body was found a hundred or so years ago in coastal Peru doesn't mean that that's where he was originally interred, let alone that that is where he was from. And a year to a year and a half after the tsunami in Fukushima, debris from Japan started to wash up in southern British Columbia, Canada. While a log that had drifted across the Pacific (presumably from a more southern origin than Japan, if it landed in Peru, although I am by no means familiar with the Pacific's currents at all) would have had any resin long since leached out, would it have been possible, particularly if an entire tree had fallen in, for a pinecone to have made the crossing in good enough shape that it might still be viable? If at least one branch managed to stay out of the water for the entire voyage? Impossible to tell if it rooted naturally wherever it washed up, or was found and deliberately planted, but given that is from such an unusual-looking tree, and that the culture there seems to have had a strong connection with the ocean, might they have regarded it as a gift from the gods/ocean, and therefore significant? If they had some variety of pine locally, they might have realized that this was some other variety of pine, if strange (the individual needles and the scent of various pines are pretty similar, in my experience), and tried using the sap of the strange new tree the same way they would usually use that from their own native trees. After finding that it had similar properties, they might have used it instead of their usual stuff for special burials (and probably other significant rituals). The Pacific Islanders were absolutely capable of crossing the Pacific, Thor Heyerdahl, and the Hawaiians, both have proved that. So I'm certainly not suggesting that doing so was impossible. But trees wash into the ocean all the time (hell, coconut palms rely upon the ocean to disperse their seeds), so I wonder if that might have been a viable alternate source for the southwest Pacific resin? I also wonder if there might still be a grove of those trees in the area, but given that Lima has expanded into it, if there was, it was probably felled some time ago to make way for development without anyone suspecting the extraordinary peculiarity of that species of tree in that location at all. Hell, even if someone did know that they were from the other side of the ocean, they probably would have figured someone modern had just imported them. Still, it's fun to speculate! But I really wish they had looked at the isotopes in his teeth!
Important to double check the DNA of the Auruacaria species. In South America, in addition to the familiar, SUB tropical Monkey Puzzle tree, two other tropical species. Their natural range is east of the Andes, possibly quite close to ancient trade routes. Though they are not numerous, it would be surprising to learn that we already have distinct DNA profiles for every species/subspecies of the genus Auruacaria. An interesting trail to follow.
Also, if you die screaming your mouth doesn’t just stay open in that screaming position it held while you were alive and controlling your muscles and ligaments. As soon as you die your jaw would relax. (Unless maybe there was some other element too it like dying covered in lava or something like the people preserved from the Pompeii volcano)
You must also include possible physical diognosis of heart problems, something he might have been born with but of course unknown in his time. Maybe kidney or liver problems. Just thinking out loud.
I have watched maybe the majority of these docs. For the first time, I have seen real thought in a presentation that creates interest. Why was this not done from the start? Look at it. Why does Joanne only ever try to look interestingly at a Mummy? Why is it that someone Like Dr Buckly is kept down just for recognition and views? etc, etc. More important to me, is the useless use of background noise to try to gain interest. You have finally hit the spot, use it.
This is one possible explanation for how this might have come about. Resin from the South Pacific got to Peru. Sweet Potatoes got from South America got to the South Pacific. This means trade was going on at the time. Ocean crossings were beginning to happen often. The person dies in the South Pacific and is embalmed in a fetal position because boats were not very large in those days and room is at a premium and the body is transported back to Peru for burial. End of mystery?
I wondered the same thing. And, because there were three other mummies buried in the same style, why wouldn’t they test those and cross reference the information? What if they were tradesmen from across the sea who stayed in Peru, and therefore would be mummified specific to their cultural heritage. There are too many unanswered questions.
Had to laugh when Dr Fletcher, in another program did not know the female mummy she was studying was in fact a male even though brow and pelvic area were perfectly visible.
I have to say, it’s a bit hard to believe that an ancient culture could understand chemistry and chemical compounds, but at the exact same time be pre-literate. How is it possible that they didn’t create any form of writing or historical recording for over 10,000 years but knew how to preserve bodies?
Early civilizations had complex systems of spoken word and they were also very intelligent I mean most advances were made by them even civilizations that had the first written language went hundreds of years without them
They also produced textiles for 10 000 years - earlier than they started making pottery! That is, as far as I am aware, quite unheard of! Just because someone doesn't do things in the order that we have been taught as "normal" here in the western world, doesn't make their order strange or "abnormal". Why would they need writing or written historical records? Why do you think it is so hard to believe that a culture can be very advanced scientifically, despite not having a written language???
they had spoken language! they just didn't record things in the ways that we do. for example, instead of writing things down there are incan and other south American examples of things being recorded by weaving knots in strings, but they're very hard to decipher by today's standards.
How old is this video? when was it produced? 10 = 15 years ago? yes... 2008! Would be nice to know that - much of what is said and done is already outdated by 2023... old news. wow
I'm wondering when they talk about the resen traveling, are they taking in consideration the "plate tectonic theory" or "climate crisis theory"? It has been documented that the land masses we know today travels 1.5 centimeters a year and we are talking about thousands of years. More over, we aren't taking in consideration the volcanic activity we won't know about.
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It makes me so angry at these so-called “professionals”, who open the boxes of these priceless mummies, with their barehands and then proceeded to breathe their stank breath and spitting words into/onto the perfectly preserved wrappings and bodies!! Nothing like contamination to the utmost, not to mention that inhaling ancient dusts and possibly diseases, is NOT very smart IMO!!🤦♀️SUIT UP IN HASMAT SUITS PLEASE
I like Dr. Fletcher (especially her other videos about Eygpt), but it makes me slightly sad to see her involved in this series of videos that pander to sensationalism. Educational, but still pandering to contemporary "thrill me!" mindset. The pacing, the voice over script, the entire attempt at tantalizing the viewer makes me wonder if these videos are meant to be educational, or a missing episode of a CSI type show. One gets the feeling that Dr. Fletcher is being used to give some creditability; its like watching Lucy Worsley shilling "Club Med" type vacations, Bettany Hughes promoting video games or Mary Beard as the spokes person for Miller beer!
Not sure when this was released but DNA evidence has proved that the polynesians did reach south America and settle for a short time before a group headed back to the islands. The group that headed back had bread with rhe locals and so they took their DNA back with them.
Personally, I don't think they NEED the music on these types of programs! It's archeology, not ballroom dancing!
Could you please tone down the background music. I am not British and have enough problems trying to understand what these professional people are saying. I love these videos so much and it would help our enjoyment to be able to understand every word.
I can hear the narrators fairly well over the obnoxious background music, but the presentation would be a whole lot better without it.
I was reading up the other day on why this is such an issue for these RUclips docs, and it seems like there was a trend of the background music for tv docs being fairly loud back when this was aired (2008, but the trend was pretty much from the 90s through the streaming boom) and something about how the tv shows get converted for RUclips/streaming ramps up the music even more. Idk why it’s not something they can fix, though, my brain isn’t technical enough to understand why not.
This music track was added to this by someone else - the 'creator' perhaps? I've seen it before and it did NOT have this crappy pretentious music.
I think it might be done to help keep away the copyright strikes
If it's any consolation, us Brits are struggling too. It's a really annoying trend that RUclips docs have to put this constant music in the background, and loudly; it wasn't in the original, if you can find it elsewhere x
As many episodes of this I've seen, I don't think I've ever seen Dr. Buckley so much as crack a smile or grin
It’s all that preservative he encounters
Why was it written off that the ancient South Americans and Pacific Islanders could have made contact? To me, it smacks of the same derision that archaeologists of the past had to claim that the ancient Mesoamericans couldn't possibly have built the pyramids left behind by the Maya and Aztec.
how does anyone know that tying the hands close to the face isn't just a normal part of their burial ritual?
Probably by studying patterns in burials found in/around that region.
I thought they said it WAS normal to tie the hands there but they wondered at the leather straps, which is different from the string/rope they normally see
Perhaps the difference in the tie materials indicate status or ritual meaning. @cassieoz1702
@sandinielsen4401 perhaps but that wasn't the point of my comment. It appeared that the OG commenter had missed something said in the program
The loud music spoils the video. Is it supposed to increase our excitement? If so, it trivialises the scientific investigation.
I would love for them to look at the isotopes in his teeth and see where he grew up. Just because his body was found a hundred or so years ago in coastal Peru doesn't mean that that's where he was originally interred, let alone that that is where he was from.
And a year to a year and a half after the tsunami in Fukushima, debris from Japan started to wash up in southern British Columbia, Canada. While a log that had drifted across the Pacific (presumably from a more southern origin than Japan, if it landed in Peru, although I am by no means familiar with the Pacific's currents at all) would have had any resin long since leached out, would it have been possible, particularly if an entire tree had fallen in, for a pinecone to have made the crossing in good enough shape that it might still be viable? If at least one branch managed to stay out of the water for the entire voyage? Impossible to tell if it rooted naturally wherever it washed up, or was found and deliberately planted, but given that is from such an unusual-looking tree, and that the culture there seems to have had a strong connection with the ocean, might they have regarded it as a gift from the gods/ocean, and therefore significant? If they had some variety of pine locally, they might have realized that this was some other variety of pine, if strange (the individual needles and the scent of various pines are pretty similar, in my experience), and tried using the sap of the strange new tree the same way they would usually use that from their own native trees. After finding that it had similar properties, they might have used it instead of their usual stuff for special burials (and probably other significant rituals).
The Pacific Islanders were absolutely capable of crossing the Pacific, Thor Heyerdahl, and the Hawaiians, both have proved that. So I'm certainly not suggesting that doing so was impossible. But trees wash into the ocean all the time (hell, coconut palms rely upon the ocean to disperse their seeds), so I wonder if that might have been a viable alternate source for the southwest Pacific resin?
I also wonder if there might still be a grove of those trees in the area, but given that Lima has expanded into it, if there was, it was probably felled some time ago to make way for development without anyone suspecting the extraordinary peculiarity of that species of tree in that location at all. Hell, even if someone did know that they were from the other side of the ocean, they probably would have figured someone modern had just imported them.
Still, it's fun to speculate!
But I really wish they had looked at the isotopes in his teeth!
There is evidence of this type of voyages on easter island. Spans many centuries.
Important to double check the DNA of the Auruacaria species. In South America, in addition to the familiar, SUB tropical Monkey Puzzle tree, two other tropical species.
Their natural range is east of the Andes, possibly quite close to ancient trade routes.
Though they are not numerous, it would be surprising to learn that we already have distinct DNA profiles for every species/subspecies of the genus Auruacaria.
An interesting trail to follow.
But bacterial degradation isnt the only reason for decomposition. Autolysis caused by intracellular enzymes will break down tissue too.
Also, if you die screaming your mouth doesn’t just stay open in that screaming position it held while you were alive and controlling your muscles and ligaments. As soon as you die your jaw would relax. (Unless maybe there was some other element too it like dying covered in lava or something like the people preserved from the Pompeii volcano)
"Could have been a criminal"
I don't think they would have gone through the trouble to preserve him.
Right? And preserving him with presumably precious tree sap from another continent across the open ocean? Nah.
Music is great!!
Whenever Dr Fletcher's team goes to work I can totally rely on the results. Consumate professionals
You must also include possible physical diognosis of heart problems, something he might have been born with but of course unknown in his time. Maybe kidney or liver problems. Just thinking out loud.
I love archeology so much bro
An excellent program. Very, very interesting. Science rock's!
- a North Eastern Pacific Coaster.
I remember seeing this mummy at Bolton Museum in my early teens, and it gave me nightmares for weeks. 😂
Lol everyone in the comments saying how the music is a problem, meanwhile I'm jamming while learning interesting facts 🤣
You'r father and i are very proud of you. That was sarcasm.❤
I have watched maybe the majority of these docs. For the first time, I have seen real thought in a presentation that creates interest. Why was this not done from the start? Look at it. Why does Joanne only ever try to look interestingly at a Mummy? Why is it that someone Like Dr Buckly is kept down just for recognition and views? etc, etc. More important to me, is the useless use of background noise to try to gain interest. You have finally hit the spot, use it.
The volume could be a touch higher but this is quite interesting 😊
Very informative
Very interesting. Thank you.
This is one possible explanation for how this might have come about. Resin from the South Pacific got to Peru. Sweet Potatoes got from South America got to the South Pacific. This means trade was going on at the time. Ocean crossings were beginning to happen often. The person dies in the South Pacific and is embalmed in a fetal position because boats were not very large in those days and room is at a premium and the body is transported back to Peru for burial. End of mystery?
Have a look at crouch burials. They seem to be the norm in Europe, before Christianity.
Good morning everyone
dr buckley, hes a briliant man and takes thing seriousy, he has hundreds of papers to go through to find out whats going on.
Imagine they burried the pigs legs just for them to be uncovered in a couple hundred years, confusing the fuck out of the future scientists. 🤣
I thought the same thing 😂
Too much sound.
Why didn't they pull a tooth to look for isotopes indicating where he was born and DNA to look for Polynesian genes? Seems like the first step.
I wondered the same thing. And, because there were three other mummies buried in the same style, why wouldn’t they test those and cross reference the information? What if they were tradesmen from across the sea who stayed in Peru, and therefore would be mummified specific to their cultural heritage. There are too many unanswered questions.
Interesting th u . But not so much music pls
Seriously the music is too loud and spoils the whole curiosity and urge to see the full video.😢
Had to laugh when Dr Fletcher, in another program did not know the female mummy she was studying was in fact a male even though brow and pelvic area were perfectly visible.
Oops! The word 'are' is missing in my 1st paragraph, below. Should read ...,"are two tropical species"
Unwatchable because of the music
I have to say, it’s a bit hard to believe that an ancient culture could understand chemistry and chemical compounds, but at the exact same time be pre-literate. How is it possible that they didn’t create any form of writing or historical recording for over 10,000 years but knew how to preserve bodies?
Early civilizations had complex systems of spoken word and they were also very intelligent I mean most advances were made by them even civilizations that had the first written language went hundreds of years without them
They also produced textiles for 10 000 years - earlier than they started making pottery! That is, as far as I am aware, quite unheard of!
Just because someone doesn't do things in the order that we have been taught as "normal" here in the western world, doesn't make their order strange or "abnormal". Why would they need writing or written historical records? Why do you think it is so hard to believe that a culture can be very advanced scientifically, despite not having a written language???
they had spoken language! they just didn't record things in the ways that we do. for example, instead of writing things down there are incan and other south American examples of things being recorded by weaving knots in strings, but they're very hard to decipher by today's standards.
How old is this video? when was it produced? 10 = 15 years ago? yes... 2008! Would be nice to know that - much of what is said and done is already outdated by 2023... old news. wow
No pronoun badge. In 2023 this means we can't possibly know anything about this being at all.😄
@@kellysouter4381 exactly, .. "lot a do about nothing"...
perhaps we will never know productions
😂❤thank you
I'm wondering when they talk about the resen traveling, are they taking in consideration the "plate tectonic theory" or "climate crisis theory"? It has been documented that the land masses we know today travels 1.5 centimeters a year and we are talking about thousands of years. More over, we aren't taking in consideration the volcanic activity we won't know about.
OOPS on the spelling!
Why the annoying music though?!
Silly trend!!
for 7000 miles how did they know the direction with the wind and sea curants , storms etc, its not viable. i enjoy all your vidies joann.
All of the indigenous people came from other continents in prehistory in ships many thousands of years ago !
In ships?
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Turn it off!!!!!
It makes me so angry at these so-called “professionals”, who open the boxes of these priceless mummies, with their barehands and then proceeded to breathe their stank breath and spitting words into/onto the perfectly preserved wrappings and bodies!! Nothing like contamination to the utmost, not to mention that inhaling ancient dusts and possibly diseases, is NOT very smart IMO!!🤦♀️SUIT UP IN HASMAT SUITS PLEASE
look he was murdered let him rest
put an apple in its mouth an call it roast long-pig! it looks tasty! Yum-Yum dig in! I can hardly wait! I've been to polynasia!
Sp. Not you'r long suit.?¿
I like Dr. Fletcher (especially her other videos about Eygpt), but it makes me slightly sad to see her involved in this series of videos that pander to sensationalism. Educational, but still pandering to contemporary "thrill me!" mindset. The pacing, the voice over script, the entire attempt at tantalizing the viewer makes me wonder if these videos are meant to be educational, or a missing episode of a CSI type show. One gets the feeling that Dr. Fletcher is being used to give some creditability; its like watching Lucy Worsley shilling "Club Med" type vacations, Bettany Hughes promoting video games or Mary Beard as the spokes person for Miller beer!
Just let the professor make a few bucks lol
The mouth always opens after death !
Agreed. Less points for these things when they always say they were screaming. Not very scientific
Not sure when this was released but DNA evidence has proved that the polynesians did reach south America and settle for a short time before a group headed back to the islands. The group that headed back had bread with rhe locals and so they took their DNA back with them.
They are assuming he's screaming.
Just an amateur but shouldn’t the guy taking samples be wearing hazmat to prevent contamination?
A trade vessel could've been blown off course.
lousy audio