On Stranger Tides | Black Widow 3.0 In Depth Review, Pt. 1
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- This is my FIRST Black Widow and FIRST non-SPI ball review all in one for the new Hammer Black Widow 3.0 bowling ball!
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I never buy a bowling ball without watching Luke's review first.
Luke is the only straight up and honest guy I trust before I buy. Glad to see you reviewing other brands now also!!!
AT LAST. This the best thing ever Luke. Completely stoked that you can review all brands now. I really hope the manufacturers come to the party and send you... EVERYthing. =)
I'll be watching them all, lol. Wishing you every success for the future!
First.....Thank you Brunswick Corp. for hooking Mr Rosdahl with your brands. Now to Mr. Rosdahl I was so looking forward to your review of this ball and you did not disappoint. Like I've said in past videos it is so nice to have a lefties point of view and now that you are independent it just means we get your expertise across the boeard! Can't wait to see what you have in store down the road!
A day I never thought would come. So stoked to see you roll all the different brands.
The fact that Brunswick is sending stuff already. Shows how valuable you are to the bowling industry! The ball looks damn good! I already picked up a hybrid 2.0 I like it. Goes a little long for me at times, but the 3.0 is going in the bag ASAP.
We must protect Luke at all costs! This guy is pure gold 🥇
This is fun, glad you reviewing brands other than SPI. You and the Hype are my go to guys. Been waiting a long time for this.
I threw the BW 3.0 in league last night. It was amazing. My BW 2.0 hybrid was going a little long and leaving 10 pins. BW 3.0 fixed that.
It's dope seeing you do cross over reviews
I just got this ball earlier today. It is AMAZING! I can't wait to try it in league next week!
Glad you are doing more brands. I’m a 210-225 average SPI only brand bowler. Recently have had a few guys tell me I need to switch brands.
Unless you’re staff you should definitely try other stuff
@@CKBowling1 I grew up just down the road from Storm and personally know a lot of the top guys there. Because of that I just have always gravitated towards SPI. However I get exactly what you are saying. I’m a golf instructor and I tell everyone you are buying the equipment they aren’t paying you to play it. Issue with bowling, until it seems like now, no one compares or describes the differences.
Thoroughly made video, I’ve watched many videos on this ball and this one really explains the in’s and out’s of the balls performance. Getting my ball delivered today……Can’t wait
Yeah this looks soooo good. It'll be my first Widow
Not gonna lie, ever since I switched to Hammer\Brunswick I have been hoping you'd start reviewing their equipment. Glad to see it's happening. 👍
So glad to have found a left handed bowler on the internet that reviews bowling balls. Your page is the first place i come to when i'm looking for certain bowling balls. Great review Luke!!!
Glad to see that you can review other balls. I am leaning more towards going to hammer in the fall instead of storm. Always liked hammer black widows and have watched a ton of videos on this ball and also the other one you reviewed so leaning that way in fall
Start of a new era. I’m excited for you to get a sense of the b7 vs storm gap for yourself.
B7 generally seems to hold/chew the middle of lane in a way I can never get storm balls to do.
Didn’t know gas mask was in the og taboo! How cool. Would be sick to see a history of bowling ball cores video but that’s hardcore bowling nerd stuff lmao.
Yeah actually, that's the funny thing about why the Summit has clicked so well for me, it doesn't really feel like a Storm ball, so having some other stuff that reads the front to back more consistently like that will be helpful.
At the same time, having stuff just straight up ignore the fronts is really helpful too . .
I said in another video that the Hammer effect is real. Their stuff is so good and yet few people use them outside the Widow line. I think I was the only one in my league a couple years ago to throw the OG Scorpion and there were 32 teams in that league and I averaged 241 with it. This 3.0 is just about in cheat code territory. You could literally drill two, one at box surface and one polished up and be the only two balls you take to league outside a spare ball. I asked Nick on his channel why the BW was so cheap where the new Hazmat was $10 more expensive and he said the Widow line was so popular they dont want to mess up the value it brings to the brand. But wait until you throw the Hazmat and Trouble Maker Pearl providing you have plans to punch those up. That HK-22 base is on another level.
Yeah I mean they know that core so well by now that R&D has to be minimal, plus I think that's a good idea. If you make something this good that cheap, should be printing money.
I have this ball. Seems to work best when on the left side
Great review. Still nothing for me ever reacted like an original Black Widow that I still own with the extra weight hole. Super flippy reaction and had the highest avg of my life at around 240 for one summer league season.
I feel the same its the best ball I've ever thrown. Shot my first 300 with it.
@@colinmccann221 I got close that summer. Lots of 260+ games. Rarely left 10 pins. The days where weight holes were allowed were pretty fun. I bowl 90% Storm products, but that Hammer was in my main bag! Also won me some money in a state tournament for side pots.
Awesome video and tech talk. Love it!!
Bowled with this ball in league last night. It is special.👾
Very excited to see you doing different brands now, could you please do some Motiv balls. Not very many people do. Thanks for all you do Luke. Big fan of your for years now. Keep up the great work 🍺
I'm going to try, thanks!!
I was really wanting that Motiv Raptor Fury but there's just not a lot of information on it and I feel for me the BW 3.0 is just a more established safer choice. They took an already legendary ball (2.0 Hybrid) and updated it with class-leading coverstock. It's hard to imagine it not being enough ball.
I was the 300th like! First “bowling related” 300 ever!
So..slightly weaker than the RG Gem & G900 Eternity Pi...looks like it makes up for that little difference in being good all-around!
I'm having some trouble with my widow 3. Left handed 2 finger bowler, it always overhooks. I can't seem to get it to calm down.
Well it's just a really strong ball, probably not going to be able to use it a ton.
To anyone reading this…how do you think this ball compares to the Hellcat XLR8R?
Are you able to compare the Black Widow 3.0 and X-cell? On paper, they look very similar!
If I get an X-Cell I might, but I'm not sure I'm going to get one of those. Having seen a lot of both though, the X has a weaker cover, so it's not quite as strong, but is a fair amount sharper or more responsive.
Luke, this must make you feel like a little kid who gets to go explore the other toys at the park instead of just sitting in the same sandbox. Even if that sandbox was great, freedom to try other brands has to be sweet. 🍻
I need to watch this a second time. The Saiyan armor jersey completely distracted me.
This ball is amazing. 740, 661 out of box.
Love the vid, love the shirt.
I have never bought a ball will anyone recommend that I purchase this one to start with and grow as I get better
This is probably a lot more than you need to get started with. I'd suggest starting with one of the Roto Grip Hustles, and finding a pro shop that can help you. I also have a series of videos called "The Classroom" so if you find that playlist, there's all kind of videos explaining the basics of bowling ball tech.
3:42 I wonder if that would have held on a house pattern. That's the line I throw
Oh definitely not, I pulled that one so far that it wouldn't have held on anything.
Hey there Luke. Great review. I’ve watch you since almost from the beginning. You always give honest reviews and insights on your channel. Compared to the Harsh Reality and Absolute Power how do those balls compare to the BW?? Last night at league a guy was throwing one and it looked great. I liked the colors they used too. Well keep up the great work!!!
I don't think the 3.0 will be quite as strong as the Harsh, but it's definitely stronger than the Power. The Power fakes a lot of strength out of just being really responsive, but as far as actual dig, the 3.0 is close to the Harsh I think.
Would the 3.0 be a good replacement for the OG Reality?
Yeah I think so. Definitely the same strength range, same general shot shape too.
My buddy and I both drilled one tonight and didn't find it to be that great. My buddy throws it around 17 to 18 mph with easily a 500 rev rate and the thing hardly wrinkled. Other stuff hooked just fine as he can make anything look good. Any thoughts on why it's not rolling good for him? I hit mine with 1k on the spinner and the more and more I threw it the better back end it had.
Again, it's really strong and it comes sanded out of the box, plus it's pretty smooth, so it's probably just too much ball for whatever you're bowling on. Hitting it with 1k is going to make it very early and smooth, and if you're bowling on a house shot with not a ton of oil, it's going to be extremely slow reacting. Throwing it more shined it up more, so naturally that's going to make it more responsive. I think it's just a misunderstanding here of what kind of ball this is and how to get it to react the way you want it to.
Would you consider this a step up from a Phaze 2?
More of a step sideways, or a tiny step up. P2 is still pretty strong, this one just has a little bit more torque.
Would love to see an envy tour review
It's on the list! I did film for it and show it as a comparison in my Scorpion Low Flare review, so that's a little preview at least.
Were those the first shots with the low flare? In the video u say the 3.0 is earlier but it sure looks like those first few with the low flare picks up sooner? I could be confused.
I kind of covered it somewhat, if unclearly, the Low Flare actually was duller than the 3.0, so despite it digging in earlier, I think that was because of the surface, I think the 3.0 is actually the earlier ball. Once I got a little lane shine on the low flare, it settled down, so that's why I made sure to reference that. This is one of the problems that is caused by just filming out of the box, because I'm trying to compare balls, not surfaces. It's obviously confusing to hear that one ball is earlier despite clearly seeing the other ball dig in sooner, and me trying to "fix it" with some wordsmithing doesn't sound right.
@@LukeRosdahl ahhh ok ok got it got it. I figured it was something like that. I did see it tame down after those first few. Thanks for the clarification.
For me the Reality is the GOAT and a level below the big hook monsters - would you say this is similar ?
Yeah definitely, same exact zone.
Any chance of reviewing releases that you couldn’t from the last year or so that have been staples like BW 2.0 hybrid?
Maybe but probably not. James has the 2.0 hybrid and it'll show up in his 3.0 review, but for most of the stuff, it's old news, nobody is interested any more, and I'd have to get ahold of those balls to review, which probably won't happen.
Luke, question about this ball. I am planning on getting one for sure but very highly considering a second and polishing it up and drilling it pin down, Do you think this core will preform well pin down? The idea would be, start right with the pin up, 2000 cover, then 'ball down' to the pin down when it gets to over/under. Just not sure if this particular ball will have that type of versatility. Thanks, Jon.
Yeah I mean, asyms are kind of the perfect balls to drill pin down because the asymmetry gives you the torque to keep them from being TOO smooth.
@@LukeRosdahlI did mine 70x5x30. At 12.5mph through the pins and large hands(high rev), this layout goes long on a medium pattern. I may have to polish it and use it on light medium patterns. 45x5x30 will be my next 3.0.
@@dobermanownerforlife3902 Well it's not the layout itself going long, it's the ball. Going pin down will make it longer and smoother than it is now.
@@LukeRosdahl pin down is on the list for sure. The widow will replace my beloved pi. Down Squatch solid
Just curious, what was your old layout that caused about to float too much? In dual layout numbers
40 x 4 3/4 x 55, I was splitting the difference between pin up and pin down to get me a little extra length without making the reaction too slow or lazy.
@@LukeRosdahl thank you for the reply. I was thinking of drilling mine 60 x 4 1/2 x 30, That's how I have my extreme envy drilled, but didn't know how that would work for the 3.0. I mostly play down and in and slightly speed dominant.
Wait is luke a free agent?
Now that you can throw whatever you want, I wonder if you'd be interested in doing a review for the BW 2.0 Hybrid! That'd be sweeeeet.
I will if I get my hands on one!
How would you say this compares to the DNA? I know DNA lower RG, so possibly earlier.
Oddly similar believe it or not. The DNA isn't the big chug monster it's supposed to be, so despite the slightly stronger core making it roll a little earlier, I've got the two pretty similar. 3.0 is a little smoother, little more versatile I think, but I do like the DNA and it has its own purpose
@@LukeRosdahlthanks. I don’t throw a lot of SPI but I really liked the DNA. I just donated it to a junior bowler.
My eye may not be as refined, but does the motion on the 3.0 look similar to the Zen Soul? I already have the Soul in my bag. I was considering a 3.0, but do not want to overlap.
It definitely does on shape, but this one is stronger by a fair amount
Cheers to being a free agent! Everyone is making good stuff these days. Enjoy the possibilities!
Hi Luke, I have been watching your video's for quite awhile now. I know you are a converted left hander and your bowling style is very similar to mine as I am a left hander also. Your ball speed and rev rate looks to be on par with mine. The only thing that did bothers me is why you had always change the ball surface out of the box, instead of throwing it out of the box and then making a surface change later. Me thinking, how in the world would Luke know how the ball reacts and shapes if he never test it this way? Anyway, Thanks again for a great video!
The problem for a while was that Storm's out of box surfaces were really bad, and the center we film at is so busy that if the surface on a ball was bad, I had to go home and fix it and wouldn't be able to get back out for another week. That's mostly what made me do it, but generally speaking, box surfaces aren't great for ball reaction either but we're going to go with it now and see what happens.
How does a Bowling Ball go on sale for a reduced price... the minute it hits the market?
It was 249... but it hadnt even been released yet and before it was even released they have it discounted (Permanently)
LMAO AT CAPITALISM LOL
Kohl's does the same thing, technically the price listed IS retail, but the market is lower than that, so hey, savings for everyone!!
I just found it hilarious... thats all... no worries.@@LukeRosdahl
Dope jersey, make a goku gi now lol
Great review, Luke. However, I am severely disappointed that you are now doing reviews of all brands. Not because I am an SPI Homer, but because now I'm going want to buy all balls from every brand. I feel like this will inevitably lead to my divorce and financial ruin. I will let you know how much your half of the alimony/child support will be since this is ultimately your fault. I'll keep in touch.
Cool BW 3.0 Solid video. Liking the DragonBall jersey! Haduken!!!
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Haduken is street fighters.
I need that shirt….
DBV design on Coolwick, Rosdahl10 at checkout! Lol . .
@@LukeRosdahl funny, as soon as I posted the comment that’s when I saw the link and image LOL thank you!!
How does this compare to the effect
This one is an earlier and smoother version, the BW2.0 hybrid is more similar but the Effect is like a couple boards stronger version of it
This is weird. But hey it’s part of evolution.
Care package from B7...
Oh BTW I filmed today and compared the Nu Blue and my new ProMo, and the comparison is super weird. With both of them dull, not remotely similar, NU is earlier and MUCH smoother. After throwing them for a while and comparing them with lane shine, NU is still earlier and a little slower, but close enough to raise an eyebrow. Will have a video at some point