I thought the first guy was good but the lady(Natasha) was even more impressive, showing deep knowledge and good critical thinking(she did not skip a single question, she reasoned the likelihood of things based on facts instead). 56:30 I like that she reminded them that US soldiers also committed atrocities in Iraq - that doesn't necessarily mean that the leader ordered them that, which people always assume with these groups.
I agree , she even mentioned the human rights violations of YPG in Syria, I have never seen anything like that on western media. Sorry for being prejudiced about western media but yeah YPG is always portrayed as `the good guys` and I am always prepared for an extra generous praise about them whenever their name is mentioned. but she surprised me! She also mentioned the cooperation between Turkey and Iraq Kurdish Autonomous Government . The Kurdish situation is more complicated than it is shown and she knows it.
I enjoy these discussions more than the “4 minute” videos of them inviting somebody, asking them “What next?”, answer: “We don’t know”… “Thank you very much for your Expertise, goodbye”
I need to correct a translation mistake: He didn`t say "Neither PKK nor ISIS are REPRESENTATIVES of Turkey ", He said `Neither PKK nor ISIS are our MUHATTAB ( this word means they are not SPOKEN TO , it basically means they are so unimportant we dont even speak to them) BTW Turkey cant have so much influence on HTS , If they had They would have foreseen what is happening today and wouldnt have tried to negotitate with Assad for months. Just because they have the same enemy , it doesnt mean they are close partners acting together
Erdogan tried to reach an agreement with the regime because the country could no longer tolerate new immigrants, but the regime did not come to the table, so Erdogan gave the green light to HTS, thought that if there was any discomfort , the regime could come to the table, but what is certain is that no one expected HTS to go all the way to Damascus, the regime was a bubble.
والله العظيم ماتكلمت الا من الجوع والفقر وضيق الحال انا وامي واخوني نموت من الجوع يشهد الله ضروفنا قاسيه واجبرتني على هذا اشي ياعالم حسوا فينا ارجوكم والله العظيم رب العرش العظيم انه الاكل ما في عندي بالبيت والله يا اخواني انه اخوني بقعدو باليومين مافى اكل والله وضعنا كثير صعب اني وامي واخوني داخل البيت وابي متوفي ولا يوجد من يعول علينا وساكنين في بيت اجار لانستطيع دفع الاجار اللي باقي علينا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اقسم بالله على كتاب الله يا خوان ما فيه دخل علينا ولا من ايا شخص ربي يجزيك الخير يا فاعل الخير انا داخله على الله ثم عليكم يااهل الخير تقفوا معنا يا عالم حسوا فينا يا اهل الخير وين النخوة وين الاخوة وين الرحمه الى اوصى عليه النبي محمد بجاه النبي محمد تحسوا فينا انا بطلب منكم لو تساعدونى لو بثمن اكل مش طالبه شي غير انه نسد جوعنا ارجوكم من غير تجريح وكلام بكسر الخاطر انا يا خوان العيشة والله ما . عيشة فيكم تتاكدو يا اهل الخير انا توسل لكم ابوس على ايدكم تساعدونى ارجوكم امانه عليكم انا اعتبرونى اختكم عرضكم ساعدونى والله لول الضيق والفقر ما مديت ايدي اشحد من الناس استرونى يستر عرضكم وربنا يفرحكم في اطفالكم واهلكم ويبعد عنكم الضيق والحزن وربنا يجعل هذا المساعده في ميزان حسناتكم ساعدونى لو بثمن الاكل او بثمن اجار البيت ارجوكم يا اخواني يا اصحاب الضمير الحي يا اهل الخنوة واهل الكرم ارجوكم ساعدوني لو بشي قليل امانه عليكم والي حاب يساهم معي ربي يجزيه كل خير هذا رقمي00967713342392 الوتساب اللي يستطيع يساعدنا يتوصل نمرتنا واتساب معنا نعطيه الاسم الكامل العنوان ويحول لنا بما يستطيع وانا وسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعدتنا لاتتاخر علينا و جزاك الله خير الجزاπ~π÷،.،.،..،
First, HTS should negotiate with other rebel factions to have a functioning government, and soon after must demonstrate it will accept diversity and not require women to wear hijab nor will it impose sharia law or any extreme religious edicts.
Türkiye den bu dediklerini destekliyoruz.Hiç bir konuda hükümetler vatandaşlarını zorlamamalı, ayrımcılık yapmamalı !!! Herkese eşit ve adil olmalıdır.
@@ij4674 Israel said that this is only temporary presence since Syrian army run away. Erdogan never declared his intentions in Syria. Maybe he will try to take Aleppo and the coast?
@@theuntouchable7277 Tk has not taken any land, it's SNA that's doing it. Just that it has tk backings, SNA is natives and that land will be and are populated by natives. He did declared his intention btw, very clearly.
Natasha, why are you afraid of Turkey entering Raqqa? 1. Turkey did not enter Tel Rfat. Nor did it take Manbij. SNA did this. SNA fighters are Syria's own people. They consist of Turkmens and Arabs. And haven't you seen the footage of Arab children in Raqqa stoning SDF vehicles? Raqqa is a region where the Arab community lives. Let us listen to you, too. We said, but I think we are more experts on this subject than you :=))
Kopegin yillardir aradigi simarik cocuk ilgisi sonunda eline yine gecti. Kuduz gibi ziplar durur biz de izleriz. Bir kabus suriyede bir kabus da bizde.
turkey is securing his board from ypg pyd which is a usa and Israel puppy in meanwhile all turkish army tanks jets ect is going in syria once the board is clean Israel is next target
why is turkey in nato? 😂 yeah I guess we also ask that to ourselves after three coup d'etats which are directly or indirectly related to us being in nato. but you know, when the ukrainian war has started, while the europeans mps were discussing whether they should send 5000 helmets or gloves to ukraine as war aid, we were supplying them with drones for weeks prior to the war. i think that's why we're in nato, because much of the nato is useless.
By God Almighty, I only spoke of hunger, poverty and hardship. My mother, brothers and I are dying of hunger. God is my witness. Our circumstances are harsh and have forced me to do this. People, feel for us. Please, by God Almighty, Lord of the Mighty Throne, I have no food at home. By God, my brothers, my brothers have been sitting for two days without food. By God, our situation is very difficult. My mother, brothers and I are inside the house. My father has passed away and there is no one to support us. We live in a rented house and we cannot pay the rent that remains on us. ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I swear to God on the Book of God, brothers, it has nothing to do with us or with any person. May God reward you, O doer of good. I turn to God and then to you, O people of goodness, stand with us. O people of goodness, feel for us. O people of goodness, where is the chivalry, where is the brotherhood, where is the mercy that the Prophet Muhammad recommended. By the honor of the Prophet Muhammad, feel for us. I am asking you to help me, even if it is with the price of food. I am not asking for anything else. It satisfies our hunger. Please, without insults or words that break my heart. My brothers, life is not easy. Aisha, make sure you are good people. I beg you, I kiss your hand, help me, please, I consider me your sister, your honor, help me, by God, if it weren’t for hardship and poverty, I wouldn’t have extended my hand to beg from people. Cover me, may God cover your honor, and may God make you happy in your children and your family, and keep hardship and sadness away from you, and may God make this assistance in the balance of your good deeds. Help me, even with the price of food or the price of the rent of the house, please, my brothers, people of conscience, people of treachery and generosity, please help me, even with a little, please, and whoever wants to contribute with me, may God reward him with all good, this is my number 00967713342392 WhatsApp. Whoever can help us, contact our number, WhatsApp with us, we will give him the full name and address, and he will transfer to us what he can. My family and I ask you by God, if you are able to help us, do not delay on us, and may God reward you with good. Partsπ~π÷π÷~π~ππ~π~×~π~÷~π~÷~π~÷~π~π÷~π~π~÷~ππ~√~√
As long as Turkey exists there will never be an independent kurdish ngl. It poses a threat to their nationalist goals of integrating the Kurdish minority in Turkey.
For now, it's certainly too early to make that a priority. And after a few years, if things roll out peacefully and fairly, perhaps they won't feel the same way.
I thought the first guy was good but the lady(Natasha) was even more impressive, showing deep knowledge and good critical thinking(she did not skip a single question, she reasoned the likelihood of things based on facts instead). 56:30 I like that she reminded them that US soldiers also committed atrocities in Iraq - that doesn't necessarily mean that the leader ordered them that, which people always assume with these groups.
I agree , she even mentioned the human rights violations of YPG in Syria, I have never seen anything like that on western media. Sorry for being prejudiced about western media but yeah YPG is always portrayed as `the good guys` and I am always prepared for an extra generous praise about them whenever their name is mentioned. but she surprised me! She also mentioned the cooperation between Turkey and Iraq Kurdish Autonomous Government . The Kurdish situation is more complicated than it is shown and she knows it.
I enjoy these discussions more than the “4 minute” videos of them inviting somebody, asking them “What next?”, answer: “We don’t know”… “Thank you very much for your Expertise, goodbye”
When will Syrians be returned to Turkey? Turkey is a safe country and a platform for their return home
"DW News" is it possible for you to discuss possible civil war in Russia?
Turkiye wants an unifed Syria, the West ,Israel and USA wants a divided Syria........
Syria is already divided
Does Isreal have the right to self defense inside Syria?
haha
:))) Bunu soruyorsan yok demektir.
yes
I need to correct a translation mistake: He didn`t say "Neither PKK nor ISIS are REPRESENTATIVES of Turkey ", He said `Neither PKK nor ISIS are our MUHATTAB ( this word means they are not SPOKEN TO , it basically means they are so unimportant we dont even speak to them) BTW Turkey cant have so much influence on HTS , If they had They would have foreseen what is happening today and wouldnt have tried to negotitate with Assad for months. Just because they have the same enemy , it doesnt mean they are close partners acting together
Erdogan tried to reach an agreement with the regime because the country could no longer tolerate new immigrants, but the regime did not come to the table, so Erdogan gave the green light to HTS, thought that if there was any discomfort , the regime could come to the table, but what is certain is that no one expected HTS to go all the way to Damascus, the regime was a bubble.
Thanks guys, very informative and knowledgeable programme!
This was excellent, such good questions, sound reasoning, and informative!!
Is is possible for "DW News" to stream also on X as YT still limits free speech?
change is messy, we look to leaders called to service for the common good
Great insights from both Dorian and Natasha
Let’s stay positive.
70 minutes and no commentator mentioned SDG sweeped non-kurdish ethnicities out of the yellow area.
SDF is mostly Arab
Amnesty international accused SDF/SDG of ethnic cleansing.
HTS is committing atrocities already
at 1:05:34 Natasha mentions Sentenced to hope by Saadallah Wannous
والله العظيم ماتكلمت الا من الجوع والفقر وضيق الحال انا وامي واخوني نموت من الجوع يشهد الله ضروفنا قاسيه واجبرتني على هذا اشي ياعالم حسوا فينا ارجوكم والله العظيم رب العرش العظيم انه الاكل ما في عندي بالبيت والله يا اخواني انه اخوني بقعدو باليومين مافى اكل والله وضعنا كثير صعب اني وامي واخوني داخل البيت وابي متوفي ولا يوجد من يعول علينا وساكنين في بيت اجار لانستطيع دفع الاجار اللي باقي علينا ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' اقسم بالله على كتاب الله يا خوان ما فيه دخل علينا ولا من ايا شخص ربي يجزيك الخير يا فاعل الخير انا داخله على الله ثم عليكم يااهل الخير تقفوا معنا يا عالم حسوا فينا يا اهل الخير وين النخوة وين الاخوة وين الرحمه الى اوصى عليه النبي محمد بجاه النبي محمد تحسوا فينا انا بطلب منكم لو تساعدونى لو بثمن اكل مش طالبه شي غير انه نسد جوعنا ارجوكم من غير تجريح وكلام بكسر الخاطر انا يا خوان العيشة والله ما . عيشة فيكم تتاكدو يا اهل الخير انا توسل لكم ابوس على ايدكم تساعدونى ارجوكم امانه عليكم انا اعتبرونى اختكم عرضكم ساعدونى والله لول الضيق والفقر ما مديت ايدي اشحد من الناس استرونى يستر عرضكم وربنا يفرحكم في اطفالكم واهلكم ويبعد عنكم الضيق والحزن وربنا يجعل هذا المساعده في ميزان حسناتكم ساعدونى لو بثمن الاكل او بثمن اجار البيت ارجوكم يا اخواني يا اصحاب الضمير الحي يا اهل الخنوة واهل الكرم ارجوكم ساعدوني لو بشي قليل امانه عليكم والي حاب يساهم معي ربي يجزيه كل خير هذا رقمي00967713342392 الوتساب اللي يستطيع يساعدنا يتوصل نمرتنا واتساب معنا نعطيه الاسم الكامل العنوان ويحول لنا بما يستطيع وانا وسرتي نسالك بالله لولك مقدره على مساعدتنا لاتتاخر علينا و جزاك الله خير الجزاπ~π÷،.،.،..،
Move to Israel.
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If the old government has faullen the agreement of 1974 doesn’t stand anymore.
lol sure!
Sorun değil.Hiç bir anlaşmayı tanımıyorsunuz zaten :=)) Kara gücünüz olsa şimdi Şam daydınız :=))
Long live KURDISTAN the land of the civilization mesopotamia and zagros mountain
long live dividing middle east you mean
may Allah ﷻ bless you Natasha Hall 🤲🏻 ameen.
Good show❤
Gokturks are coming.... Long live mother ASHINA
First, HTS should negotiate with other rebel factions to have a functioning government, and soon after must demonstrate it will accept diversity and not require women to wear hijab nor will it impose sharia law or any extreme religious edicts.
Türkiye den bu dediklerini destekliyoruz.Hiç bir konuda hükümetler vatandaşlarını zorlamamalı, ayrımcılık yapmamalı !!! Herkese eşit ve adil olmalıdır.
Wearing hijab is no big deal.
Why is Turkey bombing and moving troops into northern Syria?
Did you not watch the video?
@@TurkishTruths I did, but don't understand why Turkey is criticizing Israel of exactly the same actions in Syria.
@@theuntouchable7277
Because TK has no intention to keep that land for itself.
@@ij4674 Israel said that this is only temporary presence since Syrian army run away.
Erdogan never declared his intentions in Syria. Maybe he will try to take Aleppo and the coast?
@@theuntouchable7277
Tk has not taken any land, it's SNA that's doing it. Just that it has tk backings, SNA is natives and that land will be and are populated by natives.
He did declared his intention btw, very clearly.
Turkiye in good control of Al-OIC economics as well.
Hello wool
Natasha, why are you afraid of Turkey entering Raqqa? 1. Turkey did not enter Tel Rfat. Nor did it take Manbij. SNA did this. SNA fighters are Syria's own people. They consist of Turkmens and Arabs. And haven't you seen the footage of Arab children in Raqqa stoning SDF vehicles? Raqqa is a region where the Arab community lives. Let us listen to you, too. We said, but I think we are more experts on this subject than you :=))
It is Türkiye
No Deutschland!
Kopegin yillardir aradigi simarik cocuk ilgisi sonunda eline yine gecti. Kuduz gibi ziplar durur biz de izleriz. Bir kabus suriyede bir kabus da bizde.
turkey is securing his board from ypg pyd which is a usa and Israel puppy in meanwhile all turkish army tanks jets ect is going in syria once the board is clean Israel is next target
Turkey to attack Israel? Don't think so. Why?
İnşaAllah
Fazla heyecanlanma koç !!! Daha burnumuzun dibini temizleyemiyoruz!!!
Give space to man proposes God disposes.
Where God disposes not given have serious consequences and repercussions.
Just like the others as well.
Turkey‘s occupation of parts of Syria and their airstrikes on the SDF and Kurdish areas are less criticized Israel‘s action.
Both sould leave Syria
HTS is recognized as ter rist group by Turkey too
The modi ideologies!?
why is turkey in nato? 😂 yeah I guess we also ask that to ourselves after three coup d'etats which are directly or indirectly related to us being in nato. but you know, when the ukrainian war has started, while the europeans mps were discussing whether they should send 5000 helmets or gloves to ukraine as war aid, we were supplying them with drones for weeks prior to the war. i think that's why we're in nato, because much of the nato is useless.
Don't worry about Russia. She looks well after herself 😂
Turkey has no allies😂
Turkiye Othman dynasty reborn back the reality.
By God Almighty, I only spoke of hunger, poverty and hardship. My mother, brothers and I are dying of hunger. God is my witness. Our circumstances are harsh and have forced me to do this. People, feel for us. Please, by God Almighty, Lord of the Mighty Throne, I have no food at home. By God, my brothers, my brothers have been sitting for two days without food. By God, our situation is very difficult. My mother, brothers and I are inside the house. My father has passed away and there is no one to support us. We live in a rented house and we cannot pay the rent that remains on us. ''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' I swear to God on the Book of God, brothers, it has nothing to do with us or with any person. May God reward you, O doer of good. I turn to God and then to you, O people of goodness, stand with us. O people of goodness, feel for us. O people of goodness, where is the chivalry, where is the brotherhood, where is the mercy that the Prophet Muhammad recommended. By the honor of the Prophet Muhammad, feel for us. I am asking you to help me, even if it is with the price of food. I am not asking for anything else. It satisfies our hunger. Please, without insults or words that break my heart. My brothers, life is not easy. Aisha, make sure you are good people. I beg you, I kiss your hand, help me, please, I consider me your sister, your honor, help me, by God, if it weren’t for hardship and poverty, I wouldn’t have extended my hand to beg from people. Cover me, may God cover your honor, and may God make you happy in your children and your family, and keep hardship and sadness away from you, and may God make this assistance in the balance of your good deeds. Help me, even with the price of food or the price of the rent of the house, please, my brothers, people of conscience, people of treachery and generosity, please help me, even with a little, please, and whoever wants to contribute with me, may God reward him with all good, this is my number 00967713342392 WhatsApp. Whoever can help us, contact our number, WhatsApp with us, we will give him the full name and address, and he will transfer to us what he can. My family and I ask you by God, if you are able to help us, do not delay on us, and may God reward you with good. Partsπ~π÷π÷~π~ππ~π~×~π~÷~π~÷~π~÷~π~π÷~π~π~÷~ππ~√~√
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Were Kurds not promised their own country?
As long as Turkey exists there will never be an independent kurdish ngl. It poses a threat to their nationalist goals of integrating the Kurdish minority in Turkey.
@@Teebs131 Well never say never. Look at Yugoslavia.
Look at Serbia which was bombed illegally by NATO to create Kosovo.
For now, it's certainly too early to make that a priority. And after a few years, if things roll out peacefully and fairly, perhaps they won't feel the same way.
Kürtlere bir ülke vaad ediyorum avrupanın kuzeyinde ya da amerikada new york civarlarında.
@@Ahmed-ulFarûkî And who are you to make any promises to anybody, bro?
Don't count your chickens before they hatch...
India under modi?
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Ask India the why if you think India knows the truth?
Modern Indian under modi vs Indira Gandhi world order past present future?
How far away India from Indira Gandhi world order today?