USW 3 - Orex (Peach) vs Lima (Bayonetta) Losers Semifinals - SSBU

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  • @resean2727
    @resean2727 6 лет назад +218

    Glad no one hates on Bayo anymore.Glad I can peacefully main her.

    • @langgasheke
      @langgasheke 6 лет назад +26

      Yeah finally no whiny bitches 😂

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 6 лет назад +16

      Well, except the guy commentating.

    • @chris-id6vk
      @chris-id6vk 6 лет назад +3

      except people that will have to play you, she's still cancer to fight

    • @legodarkmetal
      @legodarkmetal 6 лет назад +5

      2:50 and he has a dreadfully raspy voice

    • @jamilf9947
      @jamilf9947 6 лет назад +13

      asd fgh not really, she has no way to get through a shield and can’t really kill below 170%

  • @dikkebal
    @dikkebal 6 лет назад +111

    I really like how lima plays bayo. That off stage game is nuts

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 6 лет назад +3

      Especially at 7:58. That off-stage control is just... Divine. Honestly cant wait for other Bayo players like Captain Zack to enter the scene again to show off more slick Bayo plays.

  • @VanillaOx
    @VanillaOx 6 лет назад +119

    Lima’s skills are goals and a spark of hope for bayo mains 😔👌🏻

    • @Ishaankaushal1
      @Ishaankaushal1 6 лет назад +4

      Vanilla Rohan Honestly

    • @jinschnee
      @jinschnee 6 лет назад +5

      Amen, speaking as a proud bayo main myself

  • @supersbluecelltheperfected7904
    @supersbluecelltheperfected7904 6 лет назад +104

    You can tell someone genuinely likes a character when they still play it after it got nerfed

    • @bluenitethewarrior9332
      @bluenitethewarrior9332 6 лет назад +3

      Thing is she isnt a bad character still after nerf shes still awesome if you know how to play her.

    • @chrisjackson6149
      @chrisjackson6149 5 лет назад +7

      @Justice Clark The video isn't proof that Bayo's good. It's proof that Lima's an absolute beast.

    • @joyconbulb3743
      @joyconbulb3743 5 лет назад +1

      Just because a character can rack up damage and do some fancy looking combos doesn't make them good, If you compare what bayo can do to almost any other character in the game she would get destroyed by anyone who knows what they are doing. I say that peach just isn't very good. He wasn't even doing any of the basic peach combos

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      @brantleycristian8088 3 года назад

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    • @vincentarjun1988
      @vincentarjun1988 3 года назад

      @Brantley Cristian instablaster =)

  • @pepeha1204
    @pepeha1204 6 лет назад +212

    Kevon Pierott is literally half the comments on this video and pretty much NONE of them make sense. His reasoning of why bayo is supposedly still "op" and needs more nerfing are just him heing butthurt from smash4

    • @somerandomdude5986
      @somerandomdude5986 6 лет назад +21

      Pepe Witnessing Birth Of Hitler bayonetta honestly feels like a bottom 10 character

    • @showmeyourmoves8551
      @showmeyourmoves8551 6 лет назад +4

      Some random Dude lol stop right there. Far more characters are shit to consider bayo bottom

    • @proofAnthony
      @proofAnthony 6 лет назад +6

      @@showmeyourmoves8551 i mean interms of the fact its very diffucult for bayo to kill in terms of spiking unless u kill off map.

    • @somerandomdude5986
      @somerandomdude5986 6 лет назад +10

      Show Me Your Moves I mean, who all else is gonna fill out the bottom 10? All the heavy weights seem like solid mid tiers, with the exception of Snake who’s probably gonna be a top tier. It seems like the characters who are really going to suffer in this game are characters like Bayo and Sheik who can’t kill. They can output a lot of damage, but so can basically every other character in the game

    • @showmeyourmoves8551
      @showmeyourmoves8551 6 лет назад +3

      Some random Dude there is no bottom tier because there is no tier list yet.
      That is not how tier list goes 🙄

  • @Rhy2412TitanGamer
    @Rhy2412TitanGamer 6 лет назад +231

    Kevin Pierott is a salty smash 4 player complaining about a character that saw some huge hits in smash ult with pretty much every other character getting notable buffs and her recovery only snapping to ledge after the witch twist's hitbox is done and her witch time being a 2 time use before being "return to neutral tool" etc etc. She actually got some buffs, but the nerfs she received are so noticeable. It shows how committed and good lima is.
    Bayo's advantage state is better in this game with nerfed air dodges and recoveries (making her edgeguarding even better.) Yet, she abhors the improved mobility many characters got and has to play so carefully with the increased damage in 1v1s, which hurts her combos and has her survivability take a big hit. Her safety with side b has taken a huge hit. She's the 13th lightest character. She has a tall hurtbox. The list goes on with her list of nerfs. Check the ssbu wiki to see just how many nerfs there are.
    This is what I was afraid of, hate consuming players and leading to a community looking very childish and unmoving. Kevin Pierott, if you see this (which you likely will), get over your salt. You're making the community look bad. The game is new and there's plenty of new things to discover. It's going to be 2019 and we don't live in an age where bayo is the best character.

    • @jamranny2802
      @jamranny2802 6 лет назад +5

      I agreee

    • @jamranny2802
      @jamranny2802 6 лет назад +4

      Wait Kevin Pierott is the super annoying Bayo hater - thinking Salem Witch Trials? Lol

    • @CaptainDCap
      @CaptainDCap 6 лет назад +6

      I just hate Bayonetta on a personal level *shrug*
      EDIT: That said, she looks like she's in a good spot this time around, and all you guys shrieking for buffs needs to look at the actual low tier garbage of this game that needs it way more.

    • @proofAnthony
      @proofAnthony 6 лет назад +2

      The only buff she needs atm to make her a bit better is to make spiking easier for her by making her able to move faster after using a smash attack bc its so fucking risky high ranked gameplay don't use them AT ALL.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 6 лет назад +16

      @@CaptainDCap doesn't mean she doesn't need buffs, just means others need buffs Too

  • @justsomeguy727
    @justsomeguy727 6 лет назад +58

    Honestly, the commentary towards the latter half of this was pretty shit. It's like the guy started having Vietnam flashbacks of sm4sh Bayo and started having an anruerism over it. People stay mad, even when Bayo isn't as good as she was before.

  • @mayei123
    @mayei123 6 лет назад +52

    That commentator saying bayo doesn't suck (13:08) and telling peep to grow up at 13:20 when the truth is he's actually the one who needs to grow up

    • @jay-no9qq
      @jay-no9qq 4 года назад +1

      Her backair is still busted. Me ???? What it’s only good in it’s sweet spot and whos back air doesn’t kill?? He definitely lost some quality bayos

  • @williamw8590
    @williamw8590 6 лет назад +40

    The bayo nerf no ones talking about is her lack of approach options in ultimate. She used to just be able to camp because of how good witch time is but now that its so bad shes forced to approach and has no way to get through a shielding opponent

    • @parfaitmamputu8161
      @parfaitmamputu8161 6 лет назад +4

      Bayo never had approach options her main gameplay was baiting people so in Ultimate who rewards the attack over the defense she'll have a harder tme than Sm4sh naturally

    • @williamw8590
      @williamw8590 6 лет назад +4

      @@parfaitmamputu8161 right right and im saying that since witch time is so much worse too people arent afraid of you if you try and camp either. Obviously its her old weaknesses being highlighted by the changed mechanics and her nerfed abilities

    • @parfaitmamputu8161
      @parfaitmamputu8161 6 лет назад +1

      @@williamw8590 yeah fair point imo i think they should have only corrected her double jump glitch with witch twist because now she's hardly mid tier by nerfing some of her tools like her side B witch time and bat within

  • @XionTheSylveon
    @XionTheSylveon 6 лет назад +160

    This set was good but, the commentary bias actually was disgusting from one of the two. Like, we're enterting 2019 and Bayo's no longer the best character. Not by a long shot. Get. Over. Yourself.

    • @c3ntravaswani427
      @c3ntravaswani427 6 лет назад +25

      XionTheSylveon yeah. New year, new us, and new Bayonetta. Let’s not hate on her anymore now that she doesn’t deserve it.

    • @slenderfoxx3797
      @slenderfoxx3797 6 лет назад +3

      XionTheSylveon next to get hate is King K Rool and Simon Belmont >.

    • @CarbonMalite
      @CarbonMalite 6 лет назад +15

      I'm half sure he was being sarcastic because people are calling her "unplayable" now which is clearly not true.

    • @XionTheSylveon
      @XionTheSylveon 6 лет назад +10

      @@CarbonMalite Yeah that sarcasm isn't exactly going to wear thin or anything over time and not look like passive-aggressive shots at the character and anyone still trying to play her. The character isn't exactly unplayable but, Bayo is nowhere close to a good decision to single main. She has no good approach options, her frame data is amongst the worst when it comes to recovery frames. To paint a picture for you, her landing lag after using her air specials is comparable to the recovery of a smash attack.
      Any character with great ground speed and frame data can just roll over her. Her combos are still cool and are the most unique thing about her but, her struggle to kill outside of a hard read or landing ONE aerial is definitely noticeable. Even her killing throws are troublesome.
      Sure you can still play Bayo but, she's not good right now and she needs to receive one or two changes to put her in a healthier state. Nothing absurd because having a repeat of S4 would incite more hostility but, the character doesn't feel good to play right now for a majority of people. When people who love the character are abandoning them, there's something wrong here. When the best way to beat a character is to completely disrespect any tools they have, that's a character in need of some assistance.

    • @magic4266
      @magic4266 6 лет назад +1

      I just see anger, simple enough to ignore

  • @bobstayoffthegrass8772
    @bobstayoffthegrass8772 6 лет назад +39

    They actually made Bayonetta’s options as unsafe as they are in Bayonetta

    • @MicroBihon
      @MicroBihon 6 лет назад +1

      Oooh, Im so glad Im not the only one who noticed
      Shes now a proper Glass Cannon and a High Risk High Reward character ^^

    • @superxdish
      @superxdish 6 лет назад +40

      @@MicroBihon high risk low reward*

    • @gw7911
      @gw7911 3 года назад

      @@MicroBihon if only

  • @potaters1175
    @potaters1175 6 лет назад +30

    That commentator was fucking unbearable. "She still has back air, she didn't lose that BUSTED move. Grow up." Lord, get this baby a fucking pacifier. You're literally watching the EVO 2018 champion here, nearly lose to a Peach that clearly doesn't even know how to fight Bayonetta.

    • @starlightcarole6539
      @starlightcarole6539 6 лет назад +2

      > A Peach. Orex deserves more respect than that dude. Did you watch Ultimatum?

    • @potaters1175
      @potaters1175 6 лет назад +3

      @@starlightcarole6539 Whatcha want me to say. Obviously Orex good but he's not SlayerZ or Samsora or Umeki, while Lima is a contender for best Bayo in the world. The point is that the commentators literally pointed out mistakes that Lima was catching him on, yet that one commentator acted like Bayo was broken every time she got a combo off. (which, for his information, is often DI-able and unsafe)

    • @anwarakkad4020
      @anwarakkad4020 6 лет назад +6

      She really is overnerfed it feels so bad to play her. Hey at least my main peach got buffed, but bayo, my god she is so laggy and can't kill. I've had people live up to 200% before dying. Ridiculous and all these hate bandwagonners still hating on her

    • @ronniemcd4727
      @ronniemcd4727 6 лет назад +1

      0:15 3:35 Definitely overnerfed. Buff please.

    • @pickcollins9910
      @pickcollins9910 6 лет назад

      @@ronniemcd4727 just like Bayo V Ridley. Look at the fucking context

  • @CamFGC
    @CamFGC 6 лет назад +79

    Lima looking great

  • @peeferin9476
    @peeferin9476 5 лет назад +15

    -Sees nerfed bayo that now requires a major skillcap played by a very good player who stills struggles to kill off his amazing combos :
    "Wow, this character is still soooo good, look at this OP damage ! People are just whining LUL"
    That guy is actually braindead xD

  • @TheMatt_SD
    @TheMatt_SD 6 лет назад +106

    The anti Bayo bias on the mic was painful to listen to and I don't even play the character lmao

    • @imperiallarch7610
      @imperiallarch7610 6 лет назад +14

      So people keep saying this but the commentary didn't seem anti-Bayo? They were mostly just saying she's still a good character. At points they were basically rooting for Lima to win because he was putting in so much work.

    • @noodletribunal9793
      @noodletribunal9793 6 лет назад +24

      @@imperiallarch7610 he was mocking people hardcore, very immature and hard to listen to

    • @noodletribunal9793
      @noodletribunal9793 6 лет назад +2

      sorry, texas has never had good commentators for the most part

    • @pickcollins9910
      @pickcollins9910 6 лет назад +5

      @@imperiallarch7610 Dude one of the guys was mocking people for correctly saying Bayo was overnerfed and basically arguing "This EVO champ can still do things with Bayo so you can too! Grow up!" It's super petty and immature and reeks of the same stigma that I warned Bayo mains would stick even after she was nerfed.

    • @inplane9970
      @inplane9970 6 лет назад +3

      Same. I've been playing low-tiers since Brawl and seeing this Bayo hate is unnerving and sad.

  • @robertbarber1198
    @robertbarber1198 6 лет назад +89

    Bayo is such a non issue it's not even funny he barely won lmao

    • @CaptainDCap
      @CaptainDCap 6 лет назад +7

      Exactly how she should be. Her combo game is still retarded, so she has to be below average somewhere else.

    • @ZalvadorZali
      @ZalvadorZali 6 лет назад +17

      Robert. Notice how Lima NEVER blocks anything Peach does... he is so used to Sm4sh Bayo advantage that he doesn't understand defense.

    • @grantgarbour
      @grantgarbour 6 лет назад +2

      @@ZalvadorZali defense? I think what you might've meant was *bat within*

    • @ZalvadorZali
      @ZalvadorZali 6 лет назад +16

      @@grantgarbour it's really silly when people finally see someone playing a character "Okay", and because its a top player not analyze the plays.. this guy literally blocked 3 moves in 15 minutes and ate the rest. Combos are good, but the moment Peach pressed A, he got hit

    • @95petery
      @95petery 6 лет назад +4

      @@ZalvadorZali do u even play bayo ? her out of shield options is terrible. PLS don't talk when you have no clue what your talking about.

  • @showmeyourmoves8551
    @showmeyourmoves8551 6 лет назад +101

    Less lag and more weight for bayo in the next patch pls. Ruining characters is not what balancing means.

    • @CaptainDCap
      @CaptainDCap 6 лет назад +24

      Still has 70% damage combos. 'Ruined' is a massive overstatement. She's somewhere around mid-tier, which is balanced.

    • @realpika8424
      @realpika8424 6 лет назад +27

      You can add kill options to that too. Taking away a characters kill options is not what balancing means either.

    • @gunblade8674
      @gunblade8674 6 лет назад +10

      Real Pika the thing is bayonetta design simply makes no sense. Bayonetta was able to rack up damage in smash 4 easily and kill extremely early. I’m surprised she was so strong in smash 4 to begin with, she was badly designed and they fixed that. Now I do think she needs less lag on her moves that’s the only buff she needs.
      With that bayo can actually be really good sense in this game bayo can rack up damage extremely well.

    • @Adam_U
      @Adam_U 6 лет назад +19

      -Can't kill at -10% with zero effort anymore
      -"Ruined"

    • @alraune699
      @alraune699 6 лет назад +2

      @@gunblade8674 the design comes from her original games which is rly bad to make into smash because Bayonetta is a heavy combo based game and they used most of her attacks of the game

  • @jump7holes
    @jump7holes 6 лет назад +42

    Imagine still thinking that Bayo is op in this game.? Lol

  • @yamsthepotatoking9444
    @yamsthepotatoking9444 6 лет назад +26

    Good to see someone who stuck with bayo

  • @primerexo2351
    @primerexo2351 6 лет назад +43

    Bayonetta is actually enjoyable to watch now imo

  • @CylonDorado
    @CylonDorado 6 лет назад +10

    I liked this a lot, these are my top two characters.
    Edit: Also that last stock was Godlike.

  • @lncompetentGaming
    @lncompetentGaming 6 лет назад +5

    Sm4sh people whining about bayo players, yikes guys if you have to get your opponent to over 200% to get a ground kill that's nuts- Respect the players and acknowledge that yikes ass nerf. The commentators did get unprofessional but it's a stressful job and it's understandable but it still inspired hate. For now-Everyone should chill and keep playing, Ultimate is still new af and is not a finished game.

  • @Dliciousization
    @Dliciousization 6 лет назад +2

    Holy shit you would think with all the nerfs people would stop bitching about Bayo. There are way more busted characters these days, Lima is just a fucking beast at the char and makes her look really good at certain moments even though he really struggled to close the set.

  • @Es97Coqui
    @Es97Coqui 6 лет назад +19

    I love Peach and Daisy, but I wanna try other characters 😟 They’re the only characters I feel comfortable with

    • @Ray-om7ct
      @Ray-om7ct 6 лет назад +8

      Same!! Their kits are so fun and unique that its hard to adapt to other fighters :(

  • @trickysphinx
    @trickysphinx 6 лет назад +14

    Bayo plays so well but she has little to know kill and lag on all her moves. Peach hits him 2 times and he’s 100+ and every move kills

    • @baixiaolang
      @baixiaolang 5 лет назад +6

      Tricky right? Like the one guy was like "Bayo just got an easy 60%, she's not a bad character!" Like yeah, Bayo got 60% in one combo but still couldn't kill Peach until she was in like the 120s+. Peach can technically get 60% in one combo *and then kill you at like 85*

    • @edilynew9892
      @edilynew9892 5 лет назад

      baixiaolang peach has a harder time killing but when it comes to bayo it’s not very difficult to kill her

  • @RayFaye
    @RayFaye 6 лет назад +5

    “Wee bit of trouble killing” meanwhile Peach consistently hitting 200%... Delusion, convince yourself.

  • @showmeyourmoves8551
    @showmeyourmoves8551 6 лет назад +50

    Lima deserves to win. Its obvious, bayo is underpowered when shit peach who cant even di properly took stocks easily.

    • @frewtlewps1152
      @frewtlewps1152 6 лет назад

      Show Me Your Moves he doesn’t because he killed Smash 4 LOL

    • @showmeyourmoves8551
      @showmeyourmoves8551 6 лет назад +27

      Frewt Lewps11 smash 4 was dead the moment ultimate was revealed so shut up being cancer

    • @charleswashington3973
      @charleswashington3973 6 лет назад +15

      Evo 2018. Also "shit peach?" Have some respect. Dude got 2nd and forced a reset at Ultimatum. I bet Orex would put you in a bodybag.

    • @thisismyfavoritepictureifo4401
      @thisismyfavoritepictureifo4401 6 лет назад +10

      @@showmeyourmoves8551 I really wanna see you go against a pro peach player calling her shit. We both know how the outcome would turn out

    • @pickcollins9910
      @pickcollins9910 6 лет назад +13

      @@thisismyfavoritepictureifo4401 Compared to Lima, Orex was horrible. He didn't even know how to DI out of Bayo's combos and yet Lima BARELY scraped a win. Lima is an EVO champ and Orex is someone that nobody gave a shit about or heard about until he nearly dethroned Lima by playing some character barely anybody pays attention to. Orex didn't deserve the win, which he didn't get. But he didn't deserve anywhere even close to a win, and he came within a F-air of winning.

  • @DemonAngel-jd5ef
    @DemonAngel-jd5ef 6 лет назад +15

    Might want to watch on mute commentary gets annoying

  • @kibuki7722
    @kibuki7722 6 лет назад +11

    Rise Bayonetta mains!

  • @GundhamTanaka2
    @GundhamTanaka2 3 года назад +3

    “Bayo so OP cause she deals so much damage waaaaaaaaaa”
    Well then. What’s the point of all this damage if you can’t kill of it in the first place?

  • @moosie6581
    @moosie6581 6 лет назад +1

    watching a few of limas games i think hes probably the best example of bayo out there right now with c zack being a close second

  • @sadpug9398
    @sadpug9398 6 лет назад +2

    Never played Smash games, so i need to ask how this game works. Why the f*ck Bayo needed 205% to kill (11:25), but this princess sl*t can kill with 80% (2:40)

  • @Srgt.Dornan
    @Srgt.Dornan 5 лет назад +8

    I know that bayo was overpowered in smash 4, but these nerfs are making it kinda unfair! I'm not a pro about smash, but this 6:29 should have killed! It's sad how she lost her power :(

  • @fallensnow94
    @fallensnow94 6 лет назад +4

    Honestly that Peach player is pretty good, as for Lima I can actually give him respect for Playing as Bayonetta I know with the nerfs she’s more harder to play but she’s not that bad her combo sets ups are still great honestly if there’s one thing I would buff to Bayonetta would be reducing her lags in her moves other than that she’s fine

  • @luwai8686
    @luwai8686 6 лет назад +23

    I'm so bad i can't do the up b jump up b i'm always so slow on it :(
    (Edit) I can finally do a zero to death with the up b jump up b thing :)

    • @richardcurrie7308
      @richardcurrie7308 6 лет назад

      the best anime turn on tap jump 🤷‍♂️

    • @kai7473
      @kai7473 6 лет назад +18

      @@richardcurrie7308 tap jump on bayo is one sure fire way to SD all day long

    • @richardcurrie7308
      @richardcurrie7308 6 лет назад

      Kai something called practice might help prevent that. Look at Nairo, who always uses default controller settings, and how fast he plays. Tap jump doesn’t seem to be messing him up. No excuses.

    • @emantv6343
      @emantv6343 6 лет назад +3

      One of your shoulder buttons has to be jump to perform it like that.

    • @richardcurrie7308
      @richardcurrie7308 6 лет назад

      Vinson Games y? Default controls has tap jump and two buttons set as jump (depending on your controller).

  • @IceeSwirl
    @IceeSwirl 6 лет назад +1

    Lima had to outplay THE FUCK outta Orex in order to win. I think they should buff Bayo's neutral and kill power a bit honestly. She seems to really struggle with approaching. She seems to have a harder time killing than even Young Link which is a problem. Bayonetta is definitely way more enjoyable to watch now tho. They've really captured her combo centric playstyle in this game. The combos are much more satisfying to watch in Ultimate. If they gave her a bit more kill power I think she could be high tier in the hands of an above average Bayo, and top tier in the hands of Lima, Captain Zack, and other godlike Bayo players ("years of research" *cough*).

  • @nekukool4306
    @nekukool4306 6 лет назад +1

    I seriously love Lima's offstage game with Bayo

  • @chrisjackson6149
    @chrisjackson6149 5 лет назад +3

    That commentator sucks. Biased as hell. What does it give if Bayo can rack up an early 60% when your opponent is at low percent yet Bayo starts killing at 170% anyways? Those 60% are incredibly hard to pull, Lima makes it seem far easier than it is.

    • @Lalapopsy
      @Lalapopsy 5 лет назад

      Bayo's 60% combos are easy to get lol.

    • @saucetto2016
      @saucetto2016 5 лет назад

      @@chrisjackson6149 Basically. Dont bother with this guy, anything youll say will basically be reflected with nothing but "thats not true" even though he has no proof

  • @kalextsunade1925
    @kalextsunade1925 6 лет назад

    To of my 3 favorites characters making a really good match :3
    Happy new year!

  • @thewinner4319
    @thewinner4319 5 лет назад +1

    5:37 How is a sneeze that powerful? Please tell me how :D

  • @furukawanagisa7935
    @furukawanagisa7935 6 лет назад +10

    Nice combos

  • @kd08082
    @kd08082 6 лет назад +2

    That Peach in the first match was awesome. Peach had one stock, like DAMNNN.

  • @alamii_mi6623
    @alamii_mi6623 6 лет назад +1

    First time I've ever cheered for the bayonetta player since sm4sh.

  • @nomado.3855
    @nomado.3855 6 лет назад +3

    The buffs that Bayo need ARE:
    Reduce startup, landing and ending lag in all her moves
    All her Smashes, with more knockback and faster to execute (and hitbox too)
    More damage in her neutral game

    • @aden774
      @aden774 6 лет назад

      Not the last one. Her damage is already on the same level as other decent combo fighters. She doesn't need more damage.

    • @yoshimiester507thesadyoshi2
      @yoshimiester507thesadyoshi2 5 лет назад

      She does need a slightly buffed witch time because by the time she’s done her animation it’s over.

  • @howardyates4848
    @howardyates4848 6 лет назад +1

    Bayo main here! Can she still use that combo

  • @DREAMSQU33ZE
    @DREAMSQU33ZE 6 лет назад +3

    Good for Lima making Bayo work for him 👌

  • @rospoho
    @rospoho 5 лет назад +1

    In the first combo it seems that Lima uses his Up B twice without using his second Jump. Can anybody tell me how?

    • @seouIsonyosound
      @seouIsonyosound 4 года назад +1

      don’t know if you still need to hear this but it’s a tech called jump cancel witch twist. if you input witch twist within 3 or 4 frames (i forgot what it is exactly) of your jump, it’ll cancel the jump so you can use it later.

    • @rospoho
      @rospoho 4 года назад +2

      @@seouIsonyosound thank you! Yeah i learned that already but you're great for replying to a 1 year old comment to help, the community need more people like you

    • @seouIsonyosound
      @seouIsonyosound 4 года назад

      rospoho aww thank youu!

  • @Averdein
    @Averdein 6 лет назад +31

    Let me guess, peach won because they ruined bayo? Edit: wow bayonetta actually won in ultimate?? Shocking

    • @Averdein
      @Averdein 6 лет назад +13

      I'm actually a bayo main but she's horrible In online or tournaments

    • @lorddirt5532
      @lorddirt5532 6 лет назад +4

      *balanced

    • @Averdein
      @Averdein 6 лет назад +9

      Meme Police that's the worst argument ever LOL because they literally kept her easy combos but ruined everything else

    • @feelsbadman112
      @feelsbadman112 6 лет назад +15

      “Waaah, Bayo doesn’t have lagless aerials that are completely safe to spam and a broken witch time even tho she has the best edgeguarding tools in the game and can still kill opponents off the side and top at 0% with her Marvel combos. She’s as bad as smash 4 Puff now. Sakurai please make her busted again this isn’t fair. REEEEEE-“

    • @Averdein
      @Averdein 6 лет назад +6

      Meme Police she isn't. Anyways..

  • @amackee
    @amackee 6 лет назад +5

    Who the hell is kevon peirvot?

  • @tjrama1843
    @tjrama1843 6 лет назад +9

    glad Bayonetta won!!! But dang she got nerfed heavily and that’s good she needs to be playable not Busted or OP. Welp time to practice Corrin any tips plz reply

    • @jamilf9947
      @jamilf9947 6 лет назад +1

      tjrama personally i think she only needs a small buff (as in very small) and for the corrin thing, i have no idea

    • @flanbot5155
      @flanbot5155 5 лет назад

      Dont play Corrin

  • @SilentLightPrince
    @SilentLightPrince 6 лет назад +1

    This is so sad, it shows that they are highlighting Smash for Wii U when this is Smash Ultimate. It's also not version 1.2.0 it is version 1.2.1

  • @こた-x1z
    @こた-x1z 5 лет назад +1

    この人すごい上手いな
    尊敬する

  • @Angelito6312
    @Angelito6312 5 лет назад

    Hello, I've an important question: was Bayo triple jump glitch available during the film of this video? I've some doubts about the first 30 seconds combo. Please someone who helps me, I'm a Bayo main trying to improve.

    • @pavro_w0t719
      @pavro_w0t719 5 лет назад +2

      The Triple Jump Glitch of Sm4sh is now a feature in Smash Ultimate. You can see Lima using double upb and then using the double jump, that's how he can get so much height while edgeguarding.

    • @Angelito6312
      @Angelito6312 5 лет назад

      Thank you so mucho friend!

  • @ALH_EAL
    @ALH_EAL 6 лет назад +1

    I can't wait until bayonetta 3 comes out Lima didn't use the bullet climax

  • @ZalvadorZali
    @ZalvadorZali 6 лет назад +3

    Lima gets hit by EVERYTHING

  • @proofAnthony
    @proofAnthony 6 лет назад +1

    how does lima do a insant double witch twist up air.

    • @Marcusjnmc
      @Marcusjnmc 6 лет назад

      tilt stick ? already got really good at using the buffer ? just guesses

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 6 лет назад +2

      Up b, jump, up b. You have like 1 frame to do it though. Takes a little practice but once you get used to it, it becomes second nature. I don't use tap jump for it. I have my jump mapped to the shoulder button and I use c stick for tilts. That's just my personal preference. I have a buddy who can do it on default controls so it's truly just a matter of how you feel comfortable doing it.

  • @ierosfersa1454
    @ierosfersa1454 6 лет назад +1

    Lima is a god, so swift. I'm a fan now.

  • @corrosive9759
    @corrosive9759 5 лет назад +1

    Lima got so cheesed in game 1 good on him bringing it back

  • @c3ntravaswani427
    @c3ntravaswani427 6 лет назад +2

    Bayonetta mains, my dear, sweet children, take some notes. This way of playing her will greatly improve our way of playing the game.

  • @rennawilliams6325
    @rennawilliams6325 6 лет назад

    Can someone tell me how in the first 30 seconds, he did abk, wt, jump wt, and still had a jump to get back to stage?

    • @DrGandW
      @DrGandW 6 лет назад +1

      Warren Williams The second jumps didn’t count because he did a Witch Twist right after
      It’s a way to keep Tap Jump users from being unable to play the character

    • @rennawilliams6325
      @rennawilliams6325 6 лет назад

      Dr. G&W that seems more of a bug than tech. Is that something will likely get patched out? And how does one do it without jumping via button?

    • @justsomeguy727
      @justsomeguy727 6 лет назад

      It isn't a bug. She's had it since sm4sh. It isn't going anywhere. Doing it can be done without tap jump. I do it. It's a matter of preference.

  • @Daryom
    @Daryom 6 лет назад +1

    Im no expert on smash meta, i just joined like a month ago, and im really ashamed of being on the "nerf bayo" butthurt train.
    Bayonetta didnt deserve those extreme nerfs, the only thing i didnt liked were his ladder combos and the fact that side b was too hard to punish, i dont understand why they nerfed his endlag so bad and his witch time.
    Bayo can still do impressive things, but its not fair at all, i saw a really good bayo player lost against a grab-spammer ROB, and there i realised how fucked bayo is now that she has almost no options to start a combo, the bayo player wasnt able to kill ROB at above 150% cause she has like 4 killing moves on his entire moveset.

  • @RobertoLyrio
    @RobertoLyrio 6 лет назад +9

    I'm disliking for the commentaries.

  • @kalextsunade1925
    @kalextsunade1925 6 лет назад +2

    To be honest you have to be a really good player to use Bayonetta, so ppl like me (casual) can´t enjoy Bayonetta and that´s unfair. I want to play as her without hours of training but this is ridiculous, I barely can do 2 of her combos and thats it, I´ll be hardly bodied if I play as her they need to fix that. I like the character but can´t enjoy it and is struggling try her as a casual.
    And easier jump to witch twist and less ending lag in all her moves and less landing lag could be more than enough to us (casuals). no more knockback, no more damage just easier ways to performe her combos and you still will have some struggles to do a killing combo, fair enough for me.
    I knew she will have some nerfs but make her a non-casuals option is too much

  • @beanless_joe
    @beanless_joe 5 лет назад

    does anyone know how to get 2 double jumps with bayonetta?

    • @tizzle27_20
      @tizzle27_20 5 лет назад

      its simple. Could be a little hard at first but once you nail it, very easy. I think its called a witch twust cancel, and when you jmp, you have to witch twist exactly 1 frame (or maybe a little more) and your second jump is available. you can also get a third jump doing the same thinf

    • @sorafowler4497
      @sorafowler4497 5 лет назад

      @@tizzle27_20 Its 3 frames, and its bad to think of it as frame counting to get it, you wanna think of it as more of a rhythm. For ease, change one of your bumper or trigger buttons to jump

  • @dl2ndnp
    @dl2ndnp 6 лет назад

    How does Lima pull off the double up-special while still having his air jump? I thought you needed to air jump to use another up special?

    • @PrincessNeopolitan
      @PrincessNeopolitan 5 лет назад +1

      dl2ndnp if you input the second up b fast enough, you can still retain the double jump.

    • @yoshimiester507thesadyoshi2
      @yoshimiester507thesadyoshi2 5 лет назад +1

      When you do the second witch twist thing when you jump you have to do it before the butterfly wings are completely out to basically save it for yourself.

  • @pickcollins9910
    @pickcollins9910 6 лет назад +1

    Incoming "looks like Bayo is still op" comments

  • @apatoutmanoah8650
    @apatoutmanoah8650 6 лет назад

    Le premier combat était inattendu 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @thebeast3448
    @thebeast3448 6 лет назад

    So at 0:37 does Bayo have 3 jumps?

    • @marquellewis6731
      @marquellewis6731 6 лет назад

      No. Bayonetta can cancel her double jump into another witch twist

    • @marquellewis6731
      @marquellewis6731 6 лет назад

      Actually wait yeah my bad if you cancel a double jump fast enough it's saved and she can do it again later

    • @realpika8424
      @realpika8424 6 лет назад +2

      No, it's just a 1 frame cancel into a Witch Twist. It is not a triple jump, it never was.

  • @pablotorres5869
    @pablotorres5869 6 лет назад

    2:00 commentator curse, Yeet Smash where are you

  • @josuebarnesworth7709
    @josuebarnesworth7709 6 лет назад +1

    How is he jumpin 3 times or am i missing something. Edit: I mean bayo

    • @GabumonFanx3
      @GabumonFanx3 6 лет назад +7

      If you Witch twist immediatly after putting in your Doublejump, the doublejump won't be counted, so you can still use your jump at second time

    • @josuebarnesworth7709
      @josuebarnesworth7709 6 лет назад +3

      @@GabumonFanx3 appreciate that

    • @adrianubando6766
      @adrianubando6766 6 лет назад

      @@josuebarnesworth7709 is it easier to do in this game due to buffer system?

    • @josuebarnesworth7709
      @josuebarnesworth7709 6 лет назад

      @@adrianubando6766 i cant pull it off like lima but i would say it was prob easier in 4

  • @eleanasworld8119
    @eleanasworld8119 6 лет назад

    People have said thing that bayonetta is not as strong anymore and is upset about it but she was too strong but shes my fav too

  • @kalebh3419
    @kalebh3419 6 лет назад +2

    -user error-
    -user doesn't utilize moves they should-
    mY cHaRaCtEr Is uNpLaYaBlE aNd YoUrS iS oP

  • @netweed09
    @netweed09 6 лет назад +3

    lol, commentators weren't that bad, they were a bit funny but still they did some Witchunting,, that's bad

  • @cindergab9613
    @cindergab9613 6 лет назад +4

    Uhh, I was gonna comment that bayo aerials are laggy but seeing all this comments made me change my mind because I Will get a lot of replies with- WAIT WHAT DID I DO NOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @realpika8424
    @realpika8424 6 лет назад +1

    Either that Peach forgot how to DI or Lima is too good.

  • @fishico655
    @fishico655 6 лет назад

    i thought she was patched

  • @braingamer5820
    @braingamer5820 6 лет назад

    I thought he was too tired for this

  • @mazafesioelmadafaka1935
    @mazafesioelmadafaka1935 6 лет назад

    I tought
    Bayonetta and losers?
    Not smash 4....

  • @fabienvilla2688
    @fabienvilla2688 6 лет назад +1

    Bruh minute 12:32 I could not tell wth he even did lol

  • @arianograndeking8556
    @arianograndeking8556 6 лет назад

    Lima are so great💪👍💯🔥

  • @stoneString93
    @stoneString93 6 лет назад

    Advancing past the stalling meta

  • @mw2401
    @mw2401 6 лет назад

    in 4 would to get 3 abks if you dive kick abk abk

    • @Lalapopsy
      @Lalapopsy 5 лет назад

      No. You've never been able to do that.

  • @netweed09
    @netweed09 6 лет назад

    8:00 ZOMG,,
    THIS GAMEEEEE

  • @adorabella-p3h
    @adorabella-p3h 6 лет назад

    Peach is not a bad character T_T
    That's just how Orex plays, geez y'all haters.

  • @romanzolanski4551
    @romanzolanski4551 5 лет назад

    bayo’s back air got worse from smash 4... busted? calm down Esam

  • @heller9661
    @heller9661 6 лет назад

    I smell the BO through the screen...

  • @UncommonSenselad
    @UncommonSenselad 6 лет назад

    this bayo play is so hard to watch. no respect of space and hardly any defense. I hope people realize she doesn't have the overwhelming offense she did before. gotta learn to pull as well as push.

  • @erichuggins45
    @erichuggins45 6 лет назад

    This Peach is really good.

    • @reisondominguez9919
      @reisondominguez9919 6 лет назад

      the peach could be better, but then again Lima won Evo before so he's much more experienced

  • @thoughtnotfound526
    @thoughtnotfound526 6 лет назад

    I'm glad to see that Bayonetta is finally in a good place in smash ultimate. I hope she never changes.

  • @lune5289
    @lune5289 6 лет назад

    lima is a fusion of a black and white kids

  • @assassincharmander390
    @assassincharmander390 5 лет назад

    RRRRRRRREEEEEEEE BAYONETTA RRRREEEEE

  • @danielrc14
    @danielrc14 6 лет назад +2

    Why is people saying bayo is ruined now? Those combos are still super strong and easy

    • @skottish
      @skottish 6 лет назад +9

      She is so light,her fall speed makes her food for combo and all her aerials has more lag

    • @StarmenRock
      @StarmenRock 6 лет назад +1

      @@skottish ...so she has weaknesses now then. like every single other character. the nerf was deserved and is really effective, weeded out the ppl carried by her

    • @skottish
      @skottish 6 лет назад +3

      @@StarmenRock Yeah,on this video seems still Broken,but the combos you have seen can be DI away,and if you escape these combo the landing lag is so much you can still punish her.

    • @Kirbykuchen
      @Kirbykuchen 6 лет назад +6

      I think Bayonetta is fine if she gets some kill options. Bair is not enough and it’s not that good. I mean peach survived a Bair with 120%

    • @pickcollins9910
      @pickcollins9910 6 лет назад +5

      Her combos are easy to escape, fail at higher percentages (but begin to fail before her kill options work). She has horrible approach and can't camp bc of how laggy she is.
      She is ruined. Lima is just good

  • @KIPIN55
    @KIPIN55 6 лет назад +1

    Battle of the wifus

  • @BentaclesK
    @BentaclesK 6 лет назад +1

    bayo is ok now she may need a small buff but everyone who is saying she sucks is just butthurt that their fav goth gf isnt top tier

    • @aden774
      @aden774 6 лет назад +1

      The majority of top players that say she sucks don't and have never played Bayonetta. She also sucks based on results, despite not being underrepped and having a good chunk of (bad) results.

  • @moonboba3903
    @moonboba3903 6 лет назад

    Lima is horriable after the battle but beginning he’s good ;-;

  • @りょん-m8o
    @りょん-m8o 5 лет назад

    4:30

  • @規制多くて草
    @規制多くて草 5 лет назад

    このベヨネッタ使いメテオすれば勝てた部分有りすぎて草

  • @erichuggins45
    @erichuggins45 6 лет назад

    Sadly, I am not a part of the SMASH bros Ultimate community at all, but I am happy this game seems to be doing well.

  • @fishico655
    @fishico655 6 лет назад

    everyone ignores orex

  • @andrewnavarro4353
    @andrewnavarro4353 6 лет назад +1

    Who are these horrible commenters? Who hired these biased clowns lmfaoooo
    Never had to watch a video on mute to avoid these horrible commenters /: 0/10 would hire new commenters