@@lolstfu2950 I’m honestly glad he got to go elsewhere- Lebronto was real hard to watch, and I have too much respect for the man to have to watch him suffer three rounds of it.
It’s always satisfying to see late-bloomers in the NBA despite the fact they usually have shorter careers because you know hard work and persistence was their ticket to a roster spot.
Ben Wallace is probably the best late bloomer ever. People forget that this guy came in the league undrafted. For a 6’9 center he put up crazy numbers later in his career and was the best defensive center in the league for like 5/6 straight seasons, probably a top 10 center all time
was be was even actually 6'9" he I know a lot of time nba adds 1 or 2 inches on players. I don't know why but Charles Barkley for instance was listed at 6'6 but was really 6'4.
Bro I couldn't agree more Ben Wallace like if I'm building my all-time favorite team like just players that I love to watch been Wallace would be my starting power forward because I would have a chemother center Larry Johnson at the small forward Kendall Gill shooting guard and Penny hardaway at point guard
Watching the last dance documentary about the Bulls make me realize It’s amazing how Dennis Robman studied and had notes before and after games with regards to rebounding...he was crazy off the court but Phil and the rest knew how he needed to destress at times.. he showed up when it mattered. Hall of Famer
Dude will forever be the rebounding GOAT-so good at what he did he made the HoF with only 2 All-Star appearances (although his kingly defensive presence was of note too). In comparison, fellow defensive god and HoFer Big Ben Wallace was inducted with 4 All-Star appearances-without even being drafted. Two examples of just how much more there is to hoops than pure scoring. Perhaps the only two HoFers to make it in almost purely off defensive ability.
Another honorable mention should've been Jimmy butler. He got drafted back in 2011 in the 1st round and didn't peak till almost his 5th season in the league. He grinded his way from being a Bench warmer to now helping the heat become a contender.
No way. Jimmy Butler has had huge potential since his third year. Only reason why he gets traded around is because he's good but not franchise player good. For teammates it's either you like jimmy or hate him
@@yerlee4well since he's had potential since his 3rd year that's what makes him a late bloomer as well. Took him a few years for him reach his true form.
Kyle Lowery was the easiest pick but I hate almost every other pick in the list except Sam Cassell. Where is g-league sensation Khris Middleton. Khis was drafted by Pistons who promptly sent him to the g-league. Then Pistons gave him away as a throw in to Milwaukee with Brandon Knight for Pistons to get Brandon Jennings. Khris didn't reach 20ppg until his 6th season in the NBA. Speaking of late Boomers Giannis literally free 3 inches after draft day and went from 6ppg>12ppg>16ppg>22ppg>26ppg>27ppg>29ppg>30ppg. Giannis is an RPG character that levels up every year. Never seen a player literally get better and better 9 years in a row. He's going to fuck around and end up the GOAT.
@@knoda2603 Khris Middleton didn't make an Allstar game until his 7th Season in the NBA he the Epitome of a Late Bloomer. Bucks literally developed him into an Allstar. GTFO saying Khris and Giannis aren't late bloomers.
Paul Milsap was always good, he was just under sized so his draft stock fell but he was not a late bloomer. He was a star on the Jazz back in 2012. But new fans wouldn't know this
Definitely for sure Kyle Lowry was a late bloomer and I’m glad to see Lowry made this list , for sure he had a helluva transformation in the league before he got traded to Toronto in 2012
Honestly Stockton was never even close to MVP level himself. There are many NBA point guards who had higher peaks than Stockton. What makes Stockton a legend is his incredible longevity, durability, and consistency and the fact that he almost always played with Karl Malone, also known for his longevity, durability, and consistency.
@@timswabb Stockton was clearly the best PG from 91-96. A 5 year stretch as the best player at your position is good enough to get the praise he does. People need to stop putting so much emphasis on the MVP awards especially when it was extremely rare for a PG to win it at that time unless you were a 6'9 freak of nature.
@@ternedo6074 he'd never have made it as an undrafted player, and the line of legends on that team is so long there's truthfully no room for him anyway. But he IS a HoFer now, rightfully so. That's what matters.
Only undrafted player to play for team USA at the Olympics At one point he was also the only player that could guard Shaq. 50% of why the Pistons won in the finals in 2004 was that they didn't need to double Shaq Also surprisingly undersized for such a suffocating center
In my opinion what Steve Nash did as a 30+ man is absolutely ridiculous, he was just “out of his prime” yet was easily the best point guard with those successful suns as a old man.
@@icyprincey nah CP3 was already developed WAYYYY before that. Idk what you’re smoking. He’s always had good teams. Just him and his teams always choke or get injured. Mostly choking, like once or twice injuries
My mom will never forget Cassell. I remember in h.s. I played ball, and Garnett was hella dope for the wolves. Anyways, I loved him then, and I asked my mom like a month ago if she remembers Sam Cassell and I laughed bc she said, "is he the one who looks like an alien?". Shes an old village native, but that sure made me laugh. I always loved Cassell game. His legacy is cemented. Year 3000 that ball dance will show up. Bet me
At first part of his career, Hakeem or as Akeem at the time, was good but he relied more on his athleticism, after his knees started to hurt more and more he relied more on his skills and just truly dominated the game.
That's so wrong, absolutely makes no sense, " ..after his knees denigrated he started to dominate the game...", stupidest comment ever. And the fact you got 32 likes is disturbing
Hakeem is one of the few bigs that could play today, he can hit the long 2, is one of the best rim protectors, can survive on the wing on defense, can dominate the post. His passing is the only weak spot
The "Go-to-Work" Pistons were so unique. Detroit not being a sexy free agent destination, They consisted mostly of cast-offs, late bloomers and under -the-radar talent. The had to work as a team unit in ways rarely seen before - especially on defense.
Ben Wallace and Chauncey billups are the most underrated players in nba history and are far more important to winning basketball than flashy, athletic, “superstars” like Russell Westbrook and Kemba walker
It felt like Giannis was a late Bloomer, but in reality he just came in the league super young and was still growing taller, once he stopped growing, starting getting stronger and had a bit more of experience he became great in his mid 20's which is pretty normal. Only seems like a late bloomer if you compare him to someone like LeBron who was good from the start.
Eventually, I hope we get to see Andrew Wiggins in this list because he did indeed blossom in Golden State which is why they were able to win the 2022 NBA championship because of his outstanding play on both ends of the floor.
Some players need to play in a system that maximize their strengths.. Steve Nash was that player.. if he was younger and had a chance to play under the Sun's system he would have some rings(for a player) right now as we speak.. He still got a chance to get some rings as a Coach..
Nash benefited from D'Antoni's system and the fast paced players in that offense. Dirk was too much of a ball stopper for him to have the success he had in Phoenix.
Jj redick. Drafted in 06 and was considered a bust, then bounced to the lob city clippers then the “trust the process” 2019 sixers where he became one of the most efficient and best shooters in the league
Lou Williams comes to mind as a late bloomer. Was always a bench player and during his trade to the Clippers he thought his career was going down the drain but he ended up catching massive fire and came dangerously close to making the All-Star team. Along with fellow bench player Montrezl Harrell, those two were the best players on the team and the reason the Clippers are the only team in the last 10+ years to not have a losing record even when they lacked superstar players at one point.
Sam Cassell was exceeding expectations as a rookie at the Houston Rockets as an expected spark off the bench, yeah he established himself more over the years but idk about a late bloomer.
@@nocturne311 1 all star team he made! He was good at start of his career to the end!.. he shouldn't be on this list imo there a lot more obvious option's!
@@adammaxwell5250 He went from a role player to a starter to a fringe All Star to an All Star but I feel you. Maybe not the best choice. Still qualifies imo though.
I was confused because he said Cassell was a late bloomer when he came out the gate playing great in the Rockets championships. He was an awesome rookie
Hakeem ppg 85 20.6 86 23.5 87 23.4 88 22.8 89 24.8 90 24.3 91 21.2 92 21.6 93 26.1 94 27.3 95 27.8 96 26.9 97 23.2 no he does not belong in this list of late bloomers. he became better as the years went on but not not a huge leap as you would expect from a nobody to a late bloomer like Chauncey.
all people remember was Hakeem being the best finese big man ever, but before that, Akeem was an athletic freak. Duncan has no answer to young Hakeem's athletism, if i compare those two. Andy's argument is Hakeem became a complete player by his 30s.
I remember one former NBA player said that 80 percent of NBA players are more or less on the same level and only 20 percent are really that better. Thus I am not sure of this late bloomer concept. You need to be in right situation where coach likes you, where team values you, where you have little competition on your possition, where you avoid freak injuries, where you are drafted by high pick, where you have a good agent and etc. I have hard time believing that S. Nash was less of player in Dallas compared to his time in Phoenix, I have hard time believing that B. Wallace was different of player when he played in second Italian league compared to his Detroit time. Yes he was better in Detroit but he had experience from playing with top competition but skillset was the same - high energy atheltic center with almost zero offensive game. S. Cassel was impactful rookie from day one on a Houston champions team. And the list could go on. In such competitive environment as NBA, line between being good and out of the league is so thin that I think it is somewhat disrespectfull to classify players as late bloomers. All of them worked hard and got opportunity on which they capatalized. But one wrong move and you might be out of the league. Keep in mind that there are thousands who are waiting to take your possition.
Don't know if you can call Cassell a late bloomer. He did mainly back up Kenny Smith his first 2 yrs but Sam was Mr. Clutch in those first couple years!! He was definitely no scrub
David Stern literally had to screw the Bucks out of a finals berth because Sam Cassell helped form the perfect backcourt in 2001 alongside Ray Allen. I think he was worried that they would have beat LA.
Man don't speak like that..U will piss off these same people that don't think the 2002 WCF was rigged. The Bucks was a much better team and would gave LA a much bigger challenge
Both Houston Rockets and Detroit Pistons had created 6 NBA late blooming players for the past 37 years. I guess that's the success of their franchise. Can't wait to see to make another one for these 2 franchises in the future. 😁
Great list but others you forgot to mention were Dikembe Mutombo, Manu Ginobili, Tyson Chandler, Ron Artest, Jimmy Butler, PJ Tucker, Khris Middleton, Giannis, Rip Hamilton, Zach Randolph, Tony Allen, Mike Bibby, Marcus Camby, Mike Conley, Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Andre Miller, Gerald Wallace, Julius Randle, Draymond Green, DeAndre Ayton, Mugsy Bogues, Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, Shai G Alexander, Anfernee Simons, Robert Williams III, Victor Oladipo, Isaiah Thomas, Kyle Korver, Paul Millsap, D'Angelo Russell, Domantas Sabonis, Nicola Vucevic, Spencer Dinwiddie & Wendell Carter Jr.
@@kid_eisenhorn9438 Yes & here's why. Ayton wasn't doing so well & ppl were labeling him a bust until CP3 joined the team last year. D'lo had a rocky first start (still kinda rocky) w/ the Lakers w/ that whole Swaggy P snitchin drama. Really effected his game & he didn't shine until they traded him to Brooklyn where he became an all star. He's isn't doing as well now as he was in his all star year, but he's still solid & effective. Rob really broke out this year. He really didn't do much his first few years until now. Rob's really Killin it rn in Boston. Same goes with Anfernee. He wasn't really getting much time & didn't really break out until this year. That just how I see it. It's fine if you don't agree. To each his own.
@@cesarcanete3402 Oh no, I know they're doing better right now but to call them "late-bloomers" just doesn't fit the definition, honestly. I think it's just weird to call them late-bloomers when it's more like they've just improved and improved to the point where they are now. Believe me, I've always respected Rob since I'm a Cs fan and all so to call him a late-bloomer just doesn't sit right since he's also young.. I think maybe it's just D-Lo here that we can consider a late bloomer. I think it's just a matter of age. You can say that they bloomed now but honestly I wouldn't say "Late-bloomers."
@@kid_eisenhorn9438 good point. I really like your perspective. One person I forgot to mention is Spencer Dinwiddie. Would you consider him being a late bloomer? I mean, look at him now in Dallas. The Mavs have been really hot since they traded KP for him.I mean, he was nothing more than a bench player in Brooklyn, he completely bombed in DC & now he's a starter & one of thee most important players on the team.
@@cesarcanete3402 Hmm, actually, yeah. Dinwiddie's 29 so he fits my criteria. I mean, he started surging a few years ago but only found a role like this one now.
Does Isaiah thomas count as a late bloomer? I personally think that he was already good when he was drafted its just those team just didn't give him the chance to run the show
Yes and yes. Perfect example of a big-time college coach who overestimated his abilities. His persona fits the college level only- like Jim Calhoun or Roy Williams or Bob Knight
Ben was undrafted, an undersized center, a player that averaged under 10 points, He also had small hands. he had had every reason to not be dominant. Big Ben was the man
The Going to work Pistons of that era were awesome to watch. The energy at the Palace in those days was off the charts. Ben would get a block and they would run down the court for an alley oop dunk or a Chauncy or Sheed pull up three and the whole place would go nuts. They should have won 2 rings and could have won more.
Andy you weren't specific that when Steve Nash joined the Suns in 2004, it was his second stint there because he was drafted by the Suns in the 1996 NBA Draft and played with them for his first stint there for a few years before joining the Mavs, then back to the Suns. Yes, Nash had the more successful year in his second stint with the Suns than his first stint.
olajuwon is not a late bloomer. wt, he was putting up mvp numbers early in his career. just because he matured mentally over the years does not mean he's a latebloomer.
Can you please make a video about American players who go to Europe after there college years and find then after years a place in the NBA. Like pj tucker who played in Germany
ANYONE who has played organized sports at any level knows that the way a coach plays you, how much, where, what they ask you to do and how they tell your teammates to play with you... It can mean everything.
Marcus Morris for the Knicks I guess?? Bro got 19 a game for half a season before shaking all the players hands on live tv after the game then bounced for the Clippers
Honorable mention to PJ Tucker. Had to grind in Europe for 5 or 6 years before he got a chance with the Suns at age 27
As a Toronto fan, I’d like to add the caveat that we dumped him after only 83 minutes of playing time.
He’s come a long way since then.
@@spookyghostwriter3110 yall let him go two times, i think he played for yall back in 16-17 and didn't learned from your mistake 10 years ago 😂
@@lolstfu2950 I’m honestly glad he got to go elsewhere- Lebronto was real hard to watch, and I have too much respect for the man to have to watch him suffer three rounds of it.
@@lolstfu2950 the raps actually tried to re-sign Tucker in 2017, but he chose to sign with Houston instead
Doesn’t mean he was a late bloomer. He was killing over there young.
It’s always satisfying to see late-bloomers in the NBA despite the fact they usually have shorter careers because you know hard work and persistence was their ticket to a roster spot.
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Ben Wallace is probably the best late bloomer ever. People forget that this guy came in the league undrafted. For a 6’9 center he put up crazy numbers later in his career and was the best defensive center in the league for like 5/6 straight seasons, probably a top 10 center all time
was be was even actually 6'9" he I know a lot of time nba adds 1 or 2 inches on players. I don't know why but Charles Barkley for instance was listed at 6'6 but was really 6'4.
@@cjvaye99 it was widely known he was 6’7 but the hair made him 6’9. I remember he said this in a article I read as a child
Bro I couldn't agree more Ben Wallace like if I'm building my all-time favorite team like just players that I love to watch been Wallace would be my starting power forward because I would have a chemother center Larry Johnson at the small forward Kendall Gill shooting guard and Penny hardaway at point guard
@@beebodavis931 bruh you declared a war on spacing with that lineup😂
A front court of Ben Wallace and Dennis Rodman would’ve been a matchup nightmare for the opossing team.
Watching the last dance documentary about the Bulls make me realize It’s amazing how Dennis Robman studied and had notes before and after games with regards to rebounding...he was crazy off the court but Phil and the rest knew how he needed to destress at times.. he showed up when it mattered. Hall of Famer
Rodman wanted to party but not once he didn't take the game seriously.. When the man played he played with heart..
Dude will forever be the rebounding GOAT-so good at what he did he made the HoF with only 2 All-Star appearances (although his kingly defensive presence was of note too). In comparison, fellow defensive god and HoFer Big Ben Wallace was inducted with 4 All-Star appearances-without even being drafted. Two examples of just how much more there is to hoops than pure scoring. Perhaps the only two HoFers to make it in almost purely off defensive ability.
@@thebestcentaur idk about that Moses Malone was a godly rebounder too he averaged like 5 offensive boards a game no one has ever beat that
@@user-um5dz9gt4o Rodman just based on his size compared to other great rebounders
@@thebestcentaur He should have been an all star more than that, but the league wasn’t really trying to market him.
It’s always good to see guys develop … even if it’s a little slower than most!! They’ll get there eventually and I’m glad to see them covered!!
Another honorable mention should've been Jimmy butler. He got drafted back in 2011 in the 1st round and didn't peak till almost his 5th season in the league. He grinded his way from being a Bench warmer to now helping the heat become a contender.
No way. Jimmy Butler has had huge potential since his third year. Only reason why he gets traded around is because he's good but not franchise player good. For teammates it's either you like jimmy or hate him
@@yerlee4well since he's had potential since his 3rd year that's what makes him a late bloomer as well. Took him a few years for him reach his true form.
@@RandomRay1 u know it takes players usually a couple years to be in there peak right late bloomers are like 7 plus season
@@reset-dream93 yep it’s common for it to happen
It’s crazy how 3 of the top comments have PJ Tucker, Jimmy Butler & Kyle Lowry mentioned and they’re all a core of the Heat. 🔥
Good to see Kyle Lowry made your list. He was the first player I thought of when I saw the video title.
Kyle Lowery was the easiest pick but I hate almost every other pick in the list except Sam Cassell. Where is g-league sensation Khris Middleton. Khis was drafted by Pistons who promptly sent him to the g-league. Then Pistons gave him away as a throw in to Milwaukee with Brandon Knight for Pistons to get Brandon Jennings. Khris didn't reach 20ppg until his 6th season in the NBA. Speaking of late Boomers Giannis literally free 3 inches after draft day and went from 6ppg>12ppg>16ppg>22ppg>26ppg>27ppg>29ppg>30ppg. Giannis is an RPG character that levels up every year. Never seen a player literally get better and better 9 years in a row. He's going to fuck around and end up the GOAT.
@@Wallyworld30 Khris was only 22 when he ended up on the Bucks n was playing 30mpg and Giannis is far from a late bloomer
@@knoda2603 Khris Middleton didn't make an Allstar game until his 7th Season in the NBA he the Epitome of a Late Bloomer. Bucks literally developed him into an Allstar. GTFO saying Khris and Giannis aren't late bloomers.
@@Wallyworld30 he was only 27 when he became a all star so literally in his prime nothing about that screams late bloomer 😂
@@Wallyworld30 Bro, Giannis became an All Star when he was just 22-23, how is he a late bloomer
Paul Millsap. I don't know if he fits in the greatest late bloomers but it took him 7-8 seasons to become an all star.
Good one.
Paul Milsap was always good, he was just under sized so his draft stock fell but he was not a late bloomer. He was a star on the Jazz back in 2012. But new fans wouldn't know this
@@loveofmangos001 jazz millsap was a fuckin baller
I dont think he's a late bloomer, he's always been good role player in his Jazz daya
Good to hear from people that don’t get their NBA info from Instagram and Twitter and actually watch the game and study it and the players
4:50 2009 was Carmelo ONLY appearance in the conference finals in his career. Not just Denver
When I saw Lowry had played for all those teams before the Rapts, I was like "where the hell was I"?
Definitely for sure Kyle Lowry was a late bloomer and I’m glad to see Lowry made this list , for sure he had a helluva transformation in the league before he got traded to Toronto in 2012
HM to John Stockton, who had a slow first three seasons but then turned it up in year 4, and didn't look back.
Yeah I don't get how Stockton didn't make the list.
Honestly Stockton was never even close to MVP level himself. There are many NBA point guards who had higher peaks than Stockton. What makes Stockton a legend is his incredible longevity, durability, and consistency and the fact that he almost always played with Karl Malone, also known for his longevity, durability, and consistency.
@@timswabb If Stockton was never close to MVP level, then neither was Chris Paul or Steve Nash. Just sayin' 😤
@@timswabb Stockton was clearly the best PG from 91-96. A 5 year stretch as the best player at your position is good enough to get the praise he does. People need to stop putting so much emphasis on the MVP awards especially when it was extremely rare for a PG to win it at that time unless you were a 6'9 freak of nature.
@@henny6566 Magic Johnson, Mark Price, Gary Payton
Nice to see Ben Wallace make this list for sure he had those really good defensive skills , helluva player , 4X NBA DPOY
One of the best defenders ever. His HoF induction is WELL deserved
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@@ternedo6074 he'd never have made it as an undrafted player, and the line of legends on that team is so long there's truthfully no room for him anyway. But he IS a HoFer now, rightfully so. That's what matters.
if he just socred more he would be an all time great
Only undrafted player to play for team USA at the Olympics
At one point he was also the only player that could guard Shaq. 50% of why the Pistons won in the finals in 2004 was that they didn't need to double Shaq
Also surprisingly undersized for such a suffocating center
In my opinion what Steve Nash did as a 30+ man is absolutely ridiculous, he was just “out of his prime” yet was easily the best point guard with those successful suns as a old man.
He had a good coach and was surrounded with good teammates. Chris Paul on the Suns is a prime example.
@@icyprincey nah CP3 was already developed WAYYYY before that. Idk what you’re smoking. He’s always had good teams. Just him and his teams always choke or get injured. Mostly choking, like once or twice injuries
@@dbabu51 Chris Paul was barely in the league when Nash won his MVP's.
So he was not in his prime in Dallas then 🤡
@@icyprincey bro what 😭😭😭😭😭 you did not just say cp3 is a late bloomer on the suns LMAO nigga never watched ball til last year
My mom will never forget Cassell. I remember in h.s. I played ball, and Garnett was hella dope for the wolves. Anyways, I loved him then, and I asked my mom like a month ago if she remembers Sam Cassell and I laughed bc she said, "is he the one who looks like an alien?". Shes an old village native, but that sure made me laugh. I always loved Cassell game. His legacy is cemented. Year 3000 that ball dance will show up. Bet me
He has massive balls too.
I always thought he looked like an alien
my grandma always called him an alien too LOL
@@russell2890 um how you know
@@ptm3579 not sure if you're new to the nba but here you go:
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I see Andy Hoops upload I get my popcorn and watch.
At first part of his career, Hakeem or as Akeem at the time, was good but he relied more on his athleticism, after his knees started to hurt more and more he relied more on his skills and just truly dominated the game.
@Raymond Sims sesssssss#EE
That's so wrong, absolutely makes no sense, " ..after his knees denigrated he started to dominate the game...", stupidest comment ever. And the fact you got 32 likes is disturbing
Hakeem is one of the few bigs that could play today, he can hit the long 2, is one of the best rim protectors, can survive on the wing on defense, can dominate the post. His passing is the only weak spot
The "Go-to-Work" Pistons were so unique. Detroit not being a sexy free agent destination, They consisted mostly of cast-offs, late bloomers and under -the-radar talent.
The had to work as a team unit in ways rarely seen before - especially on defense.
Ben Wallace and Chauncey billups are the most underrated players in nba history and are far more important to winning basketball than flashy, athletic, “superstars” like Russell Westbrook and Kemba walker
Honestly bruh I ain't even know why you mentioned Kemba, nice player but as of now sorry *ss legacy
cmon now brodie bruh?
Being flashy or not flashy has no correlation to winning. Magic Jordan Curry all flashy players with more rings than the two you just mentioned.
Kemba Walker ain't no damn superstar😂
@@BAA188 in his prime he was considered one
It felt like Giannis was a late Bloomer, but in reality he just came in the league super young and was still growing taller, once he stopped growing, starting getting stronger and had a bit more of experience he became great in his mid 20's which is pretty normal. Only seems like a late bloomer if you compare him to someone like LeBron who was good from the start.
Love ya content man
Eventually, I hope we get to see Andrew Wiggins in this list because he did indeed blossom in Golden State which is why they were able to win the 2022 NBA championship because of his outstanding play on both ends of the floor.
Some players need to play in a system that maximize their strengths.. Steve Nash was that player.. if he was younger and had a chance to play under the Sun's system he would have some rings(for a player) right now as we speak.. He still got a chance to get some rings as a Coach..
Don Nelson made Nash great like he lifted so many others.
One of the biggest what if’s I have is knowing what we know now if Nash stayed with the mavs and played alongside Dirk what would happen?
Considering what dirk have done with a very old jason kidd, scary times
Nash benefited from D'Antoni's system and the fast paced players in that offense. Dirk was too much of a ball stopper for him to have the success he had in Phoenix.
Great video as always
Love to see the Cassell love! He was so fun on the Clippers late on his career
U forgot jermaine.o neal
JO was like 25-27 when he anchored that Indiana championship contender before that malice in the palace.
I love these videos about NBA history!!!
I loved those years when the Pistons had their big 5. I never missed a game.
Jj redick. Drafted in 06 and was considered a bust, then bounced to the lob city clippers then the “trust the process” 2019 sixers where he became one of the most efficient and best shooters in the league
Lou Williams comes to mind as a late bloomer. Was always a bench player and during his trade to the Clippers he thought his career was going down the drain but he ended up catching massive fire and came dangerously close to making the All-Star team. Along with fellow bench player Montrezl Harrell, those two were the best players on the team and the reason the Clippers are the only team in the last 10+ years to not have a losing record even when they lacked superstar players at one point.
Sam Cassell was exceeding expectations as a rookie at the Houston Rockets as an expected spark off the bench, yeah he established himself more over the years but idk about a late bloomer.
Nah he was. No one thought he would become an All-Star. His projected ceiling was a solid starting PG at best.
@@nocturne311 1 all star team he made! He was good at start of his career to the end!.. he shouldn't be on this list imo there a lot more obvious option's!
@@adammaxwell5250 He went from a role player to a starter to a fringe All Star to an All Star but I feel you. Maybe not the best choice. Still qualifies imo though.
Cassel was an awesome player in the Rockets.
I was confused because he said Cassell was a late bloomer when he came out the gate playing great in the Rockets championships. He was an awesome rookie
All right an Andy Hoops Wednesday video YESSIR LETS GET IT
Hakeem ppg
85 20.6
86 23.5
87 23.4
88 22.8
89 24.8
90 24.3
91 21.2
92 21.6
93 26.1
94 27.3
95 27.8
96 26.9
97 23.2
no he does not belong in this list of late bloomers. he became better as the years went on but not not a huge leap as you would expect from a nobody to a late bloomer like Chauncey.
And in the early years he had other good players he had to share the ball with.
Those rebounding numbers from Rodman is insane!!!
This really a dope video idea, can definitely make a few more parts
E L L A always hypes me. thanks andy!
Big Ben was my inspiration why I play basketball
I can't see Kyle Lowry without remembering that the Knicks were rumored to trade for him and ended up getting Andrea Bargnani instead
Demar Derozan this season had his best ppg season in his career !! At season 13!!! Unprecedented... And you didnt even had him on the list...
And isn't he like 32 or 33? The dude is old and yet he's having the best season of his career DESPITE the fact that he was already a star.
love seeing BIG BEN get the recog he deserves
As a person with add like Hassan I can relate to his drop in the draft but I got doubted by people
Love your channel!
all people remember was Hakeem being the best finese big man ever, but before that, Akeem was an athletic freak. Duncan has no answer to young Hakeem's athletism, if i compare those two. Andy's argument is Hakeem became a complete player by his 30s.
What about Kyle Korver? The guy didn't make the all-star team until 33. Or JJ Redick.
I remember one former NBA player said that 80 percent of NBA players are more or less on the same level and only 20 percent are really that better. Thus I am not sure of this late bloomer concept. You need to be in right situation where coach likes you, where team values you, where you have little competition on your possition, where you avoid freak injuries, where you are drafted by high pick, where you have a good agent and etc. I have hard time believing that S. Nash was less of player in Dallas compared to his time in Phoenix, I have hard time believing that B. Wallace was different of player when he played in second Italian league compared to his Detroit time. Yes he was better in Detroit but he had experience from playing with top competition but skillset was the same - high energy atheltic center with almost zero offensive game. S. Cassel was impactful rookie from day one on a Houston champions team. And the list could go on. In such competitive environment as NBA, line between being good and out of the league is so thin that I think it is somewhat disrespectfull to classify players as late bloomers. All of them worked hard and got opportunity on which they capatalized. But one wrong move and you might be out of the league. Keep in mind that there are thousands who are waiting to take your possition.
Khris Middleton fits this Category💪💚
Good to see my guy Big Shot get some love. Deeeetrrooitttt Basketballlllll.
3 former Pistons!
Good God could you imagine a prime Hakeem in today's league with those moves....Joel would get embarrassed
Hakeem is the Kyrie of centers
I still remember the day i found out Lowry was drafted in 2006. I was never caught more off guard. I was like who is this guy going at it with Lebron
of all the players you've mentioned the Ben Wallace part made me happy that's my favourite Center Ever
Yo. Steve Nash spent his first two years in the NBA with Phoenix... He did not "first arrive" there after Dallas.
Don't know if you can call Cassell a late bloomer. He did mainly back up Kenny Smith his first 2 yrs but Sam was Mr. Clutch in those first couple years!! He was definitely no scrub
Honestly u can call the 2006 draft the "Late Bloomer Draft". Lowry, Millsap, Redick, PJ Tucker all bloomed late
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David Stern literally had to screw the Bucks out of a finals berth because Sam Cassell helped form the perfect backcourt in 2001 alongside Ray Allen. I think he was worried that they would have beat LA.
Man don't speak like that..U will piss off these same people that don't think the 2002 WCF was rigged. The Bucks was a much better team and would gave LA a much bigger challenge
Billups and Wallace were elevated playing for Larry Brown like so many others.
Good list, even pau gasol honorable mention
Who’s ready for April??? It’s going to be a long two months and we’re only getting started!!
Both Houston Rockets and Detroit Pistons had created 6 NBA late blooming players for the past 37 years. I guess that's the success of their franchise. Can't wait to see to make another one for these 2 franchises in the future. 😁
Hassan on the kings man what a throw back lol
Great list but others you forgot to mention were Dikembe Mutombo, Manu Ginobili, Tyson Chandler, Ron Artest, Jimmy Butler, PJ Tucker, Khris Middleton, Giannis, Rip Hamilton, Zach Randolph, Tony Allen, Mike Bibby, Marcus Camby, Mike Conley, Lou Williams, Jamal Crawford, Andre Miller, Gerald Wallace, Julius Randle, Draymond Green, DeAndre Ayton, Mugsy Bogues, Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady, Shai G Alexander, Anfernee Simons, Robert Williams III, Victor Oladipo, Isaiah Thomas, Kyle Korver, Paul Millsap, D'Angelo Russell, Domantas Sabonis, Nicola Vucevic, Spencer Dinwiddie & Wendell Carter Jr.
Did you really say Ayton, D-Lo, Rob and Anfernee?
@@kid_eisenhorn9438 Yes & here's why.
Ayton wasn't doing so well & ppl were labeling him a bust until CP3 joined the team last year.
D'lo had a rocky first start (still kinda rocky) w/ the Lakers w/ that whole Swaggy P snitchin drama. Really effected his game & he didn't shine until they traded him to Brooklyn where he became an all star. He's isn't doing as well now as he was in his all star year, but he's still solid & effective.
Rob really broke out this year. He really didn't do much his first few years until now. Rob's really Killin it rn in Boston.
Same goes with Anfernee. He wasn't really getting much time & didn't really break out until this year.
That just how I see it. It's fine if you don't agree. To each his own.
@@cesarcanete3402 Oh no, I know they're doing better right now but to call them "late-bloomers" just doesn't fit the definition, honestly. I think it's just weird to call them late-bloomers when it's more like they've just improved and improved to the point where they are now. Believe me, I've always respected Rob since I'm a Cs fan and all so to call him a late-bloomer just doesn't sit right since he's also young.. I think maybe it's just D-Lo here that we can consider a late bloomer. I think it's just a matter of age. You can say that they bloomed now but honestly I wouldn't say "Late-bloomers."
@@kid_eisenhorn9438 good point. I really like your perspective. One person I forgot to mention is Spencer Dinwiddie. Would you consider him being a late bloomer? I mean, look at him now in Dallas. The Mavs have been really hot since they traded KP for him.I mean, he was nothing more than a bench player in Brooklyn, he completely bombed in DC & now he's a starter & one of thee most important players on the team.
@@cesarcanete3402 Hmm, actually, yeah. Dinwiddie's 29 so he fits my criteria. I mean, he started surging a few years ago but only found a role like this one now.
Chauncey Billups should be in the Hall of fame 🗣
Does Isaiah thomas count as a late bloomer? I personally think that he was already good when he was drafted its just those team just didn't give him the chance to run the show
Nah, he put up something like 18 and 8 in his second season and was the starter before the end of his rookie season
If Hakeem counts then anyone counts
Ty
Would Giannis count? It took him a while to reach full potential
Hell no
honestly i feel like lou williams should be on here because he had his best years with the clippers
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Did Chauncey Billups get drafted by Rick Pitino’s Celtics? If yes, wasn’t Pitino one of the worst hires a NBA team ever made?
Yes and yes. Perfect example of a big-time college coach who overestimated his abilities. His persona fits the college level only- like Jim Calhoun or Roy Williams or Bob Knight
Ben was undrafted, an undersized center, a player that averaged under 10 points, He also had small hands. he had had every reason to not be dominant. Big Ben was the man
Just because Hakeem got better with time, doesn't make him a late-bloomer. He was an all-star as a rookie for Christ's sake
The Going to work Pistons of that era were awesome to watch. The energy at the Palace in those days was off the charts. Ben would get a block and they would run down the court for an alley oop dunk or a Chauncy or Sheed pull up three and the whole place would go nuts. They should have won 2 rings and could have won more.
One late bloomer to come to mind is Christian Wood, he has the green light to score whenever, and collect every rebound
hes not
I’m hoping that Marvin Bagley has that same type of turnaround some of these guys had now that he’s with the pistons
It’s crazy how much of a crazy athlete Rodman was. Doesn’t really get talk ab much but that’s probably cause of his personality off the court.
This video was mint, you are a Creator.
Aaron Gordon went from an elite dunker to a primary on-ball defender to a championship team.
I didn't know about Kyle Larry until the raptors
As a heat fan i was hurt when whiteside stop progressing after he got that big contract
Andy you weren't specific that when Steve Nash joined the Suns in 2004, it was his second stint there because he was drafted by the Suns in the 1996 NBA Draft and played with them for his first stint there for a few years before joining the Mavs, then back to the Suns. Yes, Nash had the more successful year in his second stint with the Suns than his first stint.
Don't forget: Rodman also started playing Basketball very late in his life
Honorable mentions:
- Birdman
- Gerald Wallace
- Jimmy Butler?
Shaedon Sharpe. I think he's going to be similar to VC at worst or a Kawhi, PG possibly Pippen style being able to bring it both ends at a elite level
I dont know about Sam Cassell being on this list. He did help alot off the bench his rookie yr and got a ring with Houston in 96
Late bloomers: giannis, jokic, draymond green, kawhi, middleton, jrue, zach, ingram, randle, dlo, gobert, cousins, mo bamba, shai, beal
olajuwon is not a late bloomer. wt, he was putting up mvp numbers early in his career. just because he matured mentally over the years does not mean he's a latebloomer.
What happened to Whiteside?
Shoutout to BiG Ben! One of my favorite all time Piston!
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Can you please make a video about American players who go to Europe after there college years and find then after years a place in the NBA. Like pj tucker who played in Germany
I was a fan of Whiteside ever since he came to Miami, but then he started stat-padding during the latter part of his Heat tenure.
Missing Sabonis Sr (arvydas sabonis) he was like the only guy that could go toe-to-toe with Shaq. Didn’t get in the NBA til 30
He was stuck in his home country not his fault
ANYONE who has played organized sports at any level knows that the way a coach plays you, how much, where, what they ask you to do and how they tell your teammates to play with you... It can mean everything.
And Rodman is what like 6’7? Insane for a undersized forward
Steve Nash was drafted by the Suns and played with the for 2 years before going to Dallas and rejoining in 2004. Otherwise, great video!
Steve Nash was drafted by the Suns in '96, and played there til 98 before was traded to the Mavericks. Returned to the Suns in 04
Marcus Morris for the Knicks I guess?? Bro got 19 a game for half a season before shaking all the players hands on live tv after the game then bounced for the Clippers
Hakeem's story if more of like a redemption case