This isn't a glitch. It's an intended legacy feature of the Xbox 360. The 360 came out when CDs and locally downloaded music was much more common. So the 360 had a feature to rip cds and play music off the hdd. And as a bonus from the 360's sound API if you play music through the music player, the game will mute ONLY the music so you can hear your music
Music really adds the mood to things Final Hazard but without music: Feels like the end of the world Final Hazard but without music live and learn: you feel powerful super forms and have hope
but the biolizard's roar is something else which you can't hear what's going on with the music playing, if you hear the roar without the music sounds like a dinosaur-like sound.
Music was always critical in demonstrating intrigue, suspense and just plain emotion in general. The same effects would occur in advertisements, tv shows and movies alike. Good job!
This actually makes me wish there was a mod of this game with no music, but modded to sound good. Could add gritty background sound effects to flesh it out, add a high-tech hum noise to Shadow's shoes (like Hydra from Kirby Air Ride), remove the mech lock-on beeping, etc.. It would be relaxing to put someone's whole playthrough of that in the background I used to practice certain hardcore games like Smash Melee without music. Made me feel extra focused in a locked-in meditative way, like an episode of Samurai Jack. Would be cool to practice speedrunning SA2 speed stages with no music, being locked into the sound effect patterns.
I think this can be done without much difficulty by editing the sound files. The part where Sonic is talking to shadow, the GameCube remake was bugged and the lines play over each other, unlike the original dreamcast version that lets everyone properly finish their lines. Sonic even talks over himself when he says "He must be using the Chaos emeralds to teleport!" He didn't even finish the line before that. There is a mod for this PC version that fixes all the audio bugs.
@@user-pz8eg4ps5eHe meant X as a placeholder. Like playing some specific game without audio to see how in changes the feel. Reminds me of Megaman Legends. When you are in a non combat area, there is nice background music. When you descend into the underground ruins, the music cutts off and you just hear erie sounds like mecanical movement sounds or electric motor sounds etc. Makes for a tense atmosphere.
@@user-pz8eg4ps5e Actually, yes, there was a Sonic X game for the... Leapster Learning System, of all things. It's an edutainment game. Basically, imagine you're playing Sonic and then you have to intermittently solve math questions. That's the game.
I always knew this game had a problem with the timing of dialogue and characters talking over eachother, but 5:28 without music helped me to see that Sonic literally spoke over HIMSELF!
I think it's the same thing with Minecraft. With City Escape, it feels dead because usually theres people and liveliness, but it's just awfully empty without the GUN Robots. WIthout music, it just reminds you of the fact you are actually alone (except for the giant truck with an inexperienced driver)
Ok but spotify and whoever ported this being genius tho??? This basically means that you can play whatever track you're vibing to, but not lose the important audio cues (ring collection, jump and land, enemy deaths, etc), done seamlessly. Bro that is not a glitch, that is an entire feature.
This was super interesting! Hilarious when Sonic runs down the skyscraper and it cuts to him running straight down insanely fast in silence. Made me realize his footsteps don't have sound. Really enjoyed your analysis of everything. I wonder how far into development the music was made, and if game testers played in silence.
This video was really well made, it worked good as a documentary analyzing what the lack of music does to the games and also worked good as a comedic and entertaining video that was easily able to captivate your audience. I hope your channel gains more subscribers.
If you honestly think THIS is scary, you should see some of the gameplay videos I put out for some of the VR games I have on the meta quest; I.e. Dead Hook and HellSweeper VR, (Not to shamelessly promote myself but just to give you a perspective). Because I want to make my experience in VR games feel as realistic as possible, I ALWAYS turn off the music in ALL of the VR games I have because in reality, there’s not gonna be a stereo constantly in a corner of the room if I go in and start murdering enemies. But this didn’t stop me from getting comments on said videos being like “Is the game glitched? Because I’m not hearing any music.” Or “Thank you for showing me how awkward this game feels with no music.” On a completely unrelated note, as I am watching the helicopter scene with no music, it REALLY has the same energy that Plankton has when you take his audio where he sounds like a pipsqueak being thrown out of the Krusty Krab, but you slow it down and turn down the pitch and his line is from a different SpongeBob episode that is taken completely out of context and messed with because they had a random voice clip at their disposal to use for the pipsqueak audio.
Please, you need to show the cutscene accompanying Radical Highway, with Shadow's flashback with Maria without music. Just pure ambience and trauma haha
Geez I never realized how weird sonic games would sound without music playing but it does sound kinda good when it comes to the cutscenes because some scenes are so hard to hear the characters talk with the music blasting over them
I wonder if the last cutscene of last story (so after shadow sacrifices himself) would feel any different without music. While that's my favorite song in this game, I could imagine how dead silence might make it more impactful idk
I really want more of this. This is super intriguing and I think this should be done with more Sonic games, weather through the Spotify trick or other modding means.
Funnily enough, this is pretty much how I experienced Sonic Heroes for the first time because the bootleg DVD I installed the game from had removed most of the character voice lines, almost every single music track and all of the pre-rendered CGI cutscenes.
i wish the video were longer this was v silly and epic also side note i feel like it's gotta be an intentional thing that when spotify is open and actively playing, whatever video game you're playing is gonna do that exact thing of muting their own music, no? r u sure it's a glitch? cause sometimes ya just wanna play a game w all the sound effects but reallyyy wanna jam to ur own music instead
Just goes to show how important music is and when to use it cause that cutscene with Sonic and Shadow worked really well without music, while the Knuckles and Rouge cutscene needed music. They were sound effects in those cutscenes I've never heard before because the music is loud you can't hear them. Very interesting.
Imagine King Boom Boo with this shit I didn't even play the game until recently, but he STILL somehow gave me a nightmare iirc, and without the music it'd be horrifying again
I feel like this would particularly be jarring for the space levels, since those have a ton of background sound effects. Would possibly add tension to the King Boom Boo fight and getting seen by the Egg Beetle in Egg Quarters though.
why is it weird for it to not override more than the music? it's logical that it only muted the in game music.. because ur most likely listening to music on the MUSIC related app...
I'm just looking at it from how SA2 is designed settings wise. The game has no feature to tamper JUST music. I kinda figured that the sound of the games comes as a package, where when one is affected, the whole thing is; if that makes sense?
you can mute music in all the games, this is common feature not a bug. but ya ig not knowing much about this would cause anyone to come to this conclusion.
I've played a lot without music because on Dreamcast there was an occasional bug that removed the music from stages and I kinda like it, but I prefer to play that way in games like Sonic 06, Unleashed or Gens because sonic's steps are audible and he often speaks
I would argue this is just the characters perspectives. For example the GUN truck lacking tension makes perfect sense considering Sonic isn't worried at all. He knows he can outrun it with zero difficulty and leave it in the dust. But instead he's running JUST fast enough that the truck can keep.
That's actually a good outlook. The counterargument could be that it, at the very least, surprised him briefly, THEN he just goofed around with it. Great point, though!
That shadow meeting scene is actually better without the music. I mean, the music makes it more flashier, almost chaotic. It has a lot of energy, but it's also too loud, too much noise. Without the music, that scene feels more grounded, it feels just so real. Like how somebody pointed out in the comments, this is what sonic hears all the time. This is how sonic truly met shadow
Man without the music I do wonder how much of a horror feel it has. Like this is legit creepy I feel like something is watching our playable characters in the background. Like something evil and terrifying. I'd go as far as to say the game feels haunted without the music. Maybe the music playing is all in thier heads as they do the missions in the game.
White Jungle and Aquatic Mine without music would be creepy. First one because of it's Silent Hill vibes. And the second one because of jupmscares and overall damp dark aesthetics.
There is in fact an Action Replay code to play the game without music. I've done it before on the original Gamecube version, and on an emulator. In fact, that's how I recorded my own version of SA2 so I could add the music tracks in manually and thus control the volume levels so that they weren't playing over the voices during cutscenes.
I think the music muting when Spotify plays is to make it where there isn’t the Spotify music fighting the game music to be heard. Makes sense to me, but idk
If you think of games as food, music is one of the crucial ingredients that makes the dish taste good. Unless specifically designed around not having a certain ingredient, it's not going to taste quite right. Similarly, music sets the mood in games. Something's going to feel off with it not there.
8:45 might as well have picked "Underground Lockdown" (PMC base) or "Confirmed Thrills" (Prison island owned by PMC) or even "The Gauntlet" (Public as hell prison break in the middle of a transfer for a retrial)
I'm kinda surprised you didn't include King Boom Boo in this. That level terrified me WITH music. Without it, the "raaah... RRRRAAAAAAAWWWW" is unbearable
You can actually turn off music in the settings for Unleashed. It's also eerie, but hearing Sonic's feet touching the ground every step is... oddly relaxing?
I'm missing the point here lol I think the game sounds about like you would expect without the music lol I think almost every movie and game fair about the same without music lol It just shows you why we have it lol
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Now I realize this is probably what it always sounds like to sonic
Unless he just had sick music playing in his head
@@Fastest_hedgehogs_aliveOr just a comically large speakerphone is hidden within the background
*sonic starts humming live and learn 😂
‘Live and learn. I’m hanging on the edge of tomorrow.’
Is it impossible to never be scared by Poppy Playtime?
@@user-pz8eg4ps5e wtf are you talking about. I brought up the fact that sonic always hears silence. Where did this idea come from?
Finally I can hear the actually hear the dialogue in cutscenes.
yep. XD
I had a stroke reading this
If you’re playing on PC you can use a mod that lets you control the volume of everything, including the music
@@Rewrite_blurare you illiterate?
@fruitpun6h I read it wrong
This isn't a glitch. It's an intended legacy feature of the Xbox 360. The 360 came out when CDs and locally downloaded music was much more common. So the 360 had a feature to rip cds and play music off the hdd. And as a bonus from the 360's sound API if you play music through the music player, the game will mute ONLY the music so you can hear your music
Thank you for the descriptive explanation! I appreciate learning a thing or two about this stuff.
@@4nrew No problem. But yeah, try this out with any other backwards compatible 360 game.
Some games on the ps4 also had this happen when you used spotify
@ddmacc still does into the PS5 but it’s a case by case thing.
I love hearing thick of it while playing in cool edge
Music really adds the mood to things
Final Hazard but without music: Feels like the end of the world
Final Hazard but without music live and learn: you feel powerful super forms and have hope
but the biolizard's roar is something else which you can't hear what's going on with the music playing, if you hear the roar without the music sounds like a dinosaur-like sound.
Sonic Adventure 2 But I have to hear Thick Of It on loop until I beat the game wish me luck bro
It's been 10 Hours are you beat the game?
I don’t think he made it, rip
nah bro is dead in 30 mins
That's just the normal Knuckles levels
Good luck beating it with sigma boys
2:43 Oh God, this feels like one of those, "how see it as kids vs. how we see it as adults" videos.
Music was always critical in demonstrating intrigue, suspense and just plain emotion in general. The same effects would occur in advertisements, tv shows and movies alike. Good job!
This actually makes me wish there was a mod of this game with no music, but modded to sound good. Could add gritty background sound effects to flesh it out, add a high-tech hum noise to Shadow's shoes (like Hydra from Kirby Air Ride), remove the mech lock-on beeping, etc.. It would be relaxing to put someone's whole playthrough of that in the background
I used to practice certain hardcore games like Smash Melee without music. Made me feel extra focused in a locked-in meditative way, like an episode of Samurai Jack. Would be cool to practice speedrunning SA2 speed stages with no music, being locked into the sound effect patterns.
I think this can be done without much difficulty by editing the sound files.
The part where Sonic is talking to shadow, the GameCube remake was bugged and the lines play over each other, unlike the original dreamcast version that lets everyone properly finish their lines. Sonic even talks over himself when he says "He must be using the Chaos emeralds to teleport!" He didn't even finish the line before that.
There is a mod for this PC version that fixes all the audio bugs.
Perfectly describes the anxiety you feel when you're waiting for the boss music
i feel like this could become a trend.
"Playing X game, but no music is present"
Sonic X's game? Is that a thing that exist?
@user-pz8eg4ps5e GOD if only.......
😔
"Old video game is actually LIMINAL and very ANALOG HORROR coded" is already a thing for... some reason
@@user-pz8eg4ps5eHe meant X as a placeholder. Like playing some specific game without audio to see how in changes the feel.
Reminds me of Megaman Legends. When you are in a non combat area, there is nice background music. When you descend into the underground ruins, the music cutts off and you just hear erie sounds like mecanical movement sounds or electric motor sounds etc. Makes for a tense atmosphere.
@@user-pz8eg4ps5e Actually, yes, there was a Sonic X game for the... Leapster Learning System, of all things. It's an edutainment game. Basically, imagine you're playing Sonic and then you have to intermittently solve math questions. That's the game.
I always knew this game had a problem with the timing of dialogue and characters talking over eachother, but 5:28 without music helped me to see that Sonic literally spoke over HIMSELF!
NEW HEADCANON UNLOCK : Knuckles lands on rouge’s foot after breaking the master emerald.
“Yeah Rouge she sexy and Smooth”🎶🗣️🔥🔥🔥✊🏾
I think it's the same thing with Minecraft. With City Escape, it feels dead because usually theres people and liveliness, but it's just awfully empty without the GUN Robots. WIthout music, it just reminds you of the fact you are actually alone (except for the giant truck with an inexperienced driver)
Egg,an pissing on the moon with no music sounds so funny to me idk why
(1:15) brainrot is really getting to me. i thought you had modded it to say sigma-alpha
He does
It stands for (S)igma (A)lpha 2 = SA2🔥
That's not a glitch, that's an amazing feature
This is just sonic but he forgot to bring his ipod
Ok but spotify and whoever ported this being genius tho???
This basically means that you can play whatever track you're vibing to, but not lose the important audio cues (ring collection, jump and land, enemy deaths, etc), done seamlessly.
Bro that is not a glitch, that is an entire feature.
Without the music you can really hear how much Eggman misses his wife
Shame we won't be able to hear him pissing on the moon without music, though.
@4nrew real 😔
I like the callback in Sonic 3 "talk about low budget flights"
This has me wondering if every stage is significantly more exciting by playing Live & Learn
I managed to get it to work on my Xbox Series S! Now I can play my own music now. Thank you for showcasing this!
This was super interesting! Hilarious when Sonic runs down the skyscraper and it cuts to him running straight down insanely fast in silence. Made me realize his footsteps don't have sound. Really enjoyed your analysis of everything. I wonder how far into development the music was made, and if game testers played in silence.
This video was really well made, it worked good as a documentary analyzing what the lack of music does to the games and also worked good as a comedic and entertaining video that was easily able to captivate your audience. I hope your channel gains more subscribers.
Thank you for your kind words!
This reminds me that most of the cutscenes in 06 don't even have a single soundtrack playing in the background if you notice
You deserve more views bro. Your content is really refreshing and unique.
I can finally listen to metal scraping in peace lol
It's my head canon that Eggman blasts the music during boss fights and levels
being able to hear that Sonic kicked their asses in the helicopter is amazing
If you honestly think THIS is scary, you should see some of the gameplay videos I put out for some of the VR games I have on the meta quest; I.e. Dead Hook and HellSweeper VR, (Not to shamelessly promote myself but just to give you a perspective). Because I want to make my experience in VR games feel as realistic as possible, I ALWAYS turn off the music in ALL of the VR games I have because in reality, there’s not gonna be a stereo constantly in a corner of the room if I go in and start murdering enemies. But this didn’t stop me from getting comments on said videos being like “Is the game glitched? Because I’m not hearing any music.” Or “Thank you for showing me how awkward this game feels with no music.”
On a completely unrelated note, as I am watching the helicopter scene with no music, it REALLY has the same energy that Plankton has when you take his audio where he sounds like a pipsqueak being thrown out of the Krusty Krab, but you slow it down and turn down the pitch and his line is from a different SpongeBob episode that is taken completely out of context and messed with because they had a random voice clip at their disposal to use for the pipsqueak audio.
Please, you need to show the cutscene accompanying Radical Highway, with Shadow's flashback with Maria without music. Just pure ambience and trauma haha
I have a deaf uncle (only 3 years older than me) and sadly this is probably how all of the gaming feels to him, but even emptier...
Geez I never realized how weird sonic games would sound without music playing but it does sound kinda good when it comes to the cutscenes because some scenes are so hard to hear the characters talk with the music blasting over them
I remember doing the same with Sonic Unleashed back on the 360 - if you have music playing it replaces the game's music.
I think you can actually turn music off in the main menu, too.
I wonder if the last cutscene of last story (so after shadow sacrifices himself) would feel any different without music.
While that's my favorite song in this game, I could imagine how dead silence might make it more impactful idk
Green Forest gotta be the funniest shit, a frantic chase to escape the island blowing up but you just hear the chirping ambiance of the jungle
Honestly this shows you how important the music is because without it it’s practically a different experience
Honestly my brain rot just inserts the music into the video in my head.
I really want more of this. This is super intriguing and I think this should be done with more Sonic games, weather through the Spotify trick or other modding means.
How immersive and powerful music by the composer/guitarist Jun Senoue can be, specifically. As far as 3D Sonic music goes, he is unrivaled.
Imagine getting a copyright strike for playing Spotify on mute for this trick.
Funnily enough, this is pretty much how I experienced Sonic Heroes for the first time because the bootleg DVD I installed the game from had removed most of the character voice lines, almost every single music track and all of the pre-rendered CGI cutscenes.
That's not a glitch it's a feature
i wish the video were longer this was v silly and epic
also side note i feel like it's gotta be an intentional thing that when spotify is open and actively playing, whatever video game you're playing is gonna do that exact thing of muting their own music, no? r u sure it's a glitch? cause sometimes ya just wanna play a game w all the sound effects but reallyyy wanna jam to ur own music instead
This is going to be the next Super Mario 64 Liminal Spaces.
The mech jump sound when sonic jumps off the board I never heard before
Just goes to show how important music is and when to use it cause that cutscene with Sonic and Shadow worked really well without music, while the Knuckles and Rouge cutscene needed music. They were sound effects in those cutscenes I've never heard before because the music is loud you can't hear them. Very interesting.
💀 not Eggman getting springlocked when knuckles breaks the master emerald
Realistically This is what the world would sound like
i came across this on the steam version the other day, made me go through ego death and contemplate my own mortality.
It's not scary. It just makes me feel the way I did when silence happened during Vsmile gameplay when I barely existed.
Imagine King Boom Boo with this shit
I didn't even play the game until recently, but he STILL somehow gave me a nightmare iirc, and without the music it'd be horrifying again
Sonic adventure 2 + shadow the hedgehog was peek sonic music they add so much to the game by themselves
peak *
I feel like this would particularly be jarring for the space levels, since those have a ton of background sound effects. Would possibly add tension to the King Boom Boo fight and getting seen by the Egg Beetle in Egg Quarters though.
I pulled this off on the PC version by connecting/disconnecting my wireless headphones while the game is playing
This is so sad man, makes you realize how low on NPC Sonic games are.
why is it weird for it to not override more than the music? it's logical that it only muted the in game music.. because ur most likely listening to music on the MUSIC related app...
I'm just looking at it from how SA2 is designed settings wise. The game has no feature to tamper JUST music. I kinda figured that the sound of the games comes as a package, where when one is affected, the whole thing is; if that makes sense?
you can mute music in all the games, this is common feature not a bug.
but ya ig not knowing much about this would cause anyone to come to this conclusion.
@@4nrew all games that usually have music blasting do come across eerie so ur right about that lol
oh God I'm still traumatized by this knucles level
I had a glitch that was the opposite, all the sfx were gone and it was just the music, it was pretty neat lol
I've played a lot without music because on Dreamcast there was an occasional bug that removed the music from stages and I kinda like it, but I prefer to play that way in games like Sonic 06, Unleashed or Gens because sonic's steps are audible and he often speaks
frontiers
What About pumpkin Hill?
a lot of NES and arcade games suffered from this
I would argue this is just the characters perspectives. For example the GUN truck lacking tension makes perfect sense considering Sonic isn't worried at all. He knows he can outrun it with zero difficulty and leave it in the dust. But instead he's running JUST fast enough that the truck can keep.
That's actually a good outlook. The counterargument could be that it, at the very least, surprised him briefly, THEN he just goofed around with it.
Great point, though!
The music plays in their head
I always thought the music was WAY to loud in the cutscenes like you can hardly even hear Eggmans voice lines half the time
Part 2 please
There's only a few levels to me worth playing with the music on: all of knuckles stages including at the end, and both biolizards.
Slight correction: the music cutting out for Spotify is a feature, and will happen on PlayStation, too.
Any scene that doesn't have any instruments playing in the background of the scene, is what the characters are hearing.
Nowadays, we can just turn off the music and it still is kind of creepy
1:48 and apparently no music too.
That shadow meeting scene is actually better without the music. I mean, the music makes it more flashier, almost chaotic. It has a lot of energy, but it's also too loud, too much noise. Without the music, that scene feels more grounded, it feels just so real. Like how somebody pointed out in the comments, this is what sonic hears all the time.
This is how sonic truly met shadow
Man without the music I do wonder how much of a horror feel it has. Like this is legit creepy I feel like something is watching our playable characters in the background. Like something evil and terrifying. I'd go as far as to say the game feels haunted without the music. Maybe the music playing is all in thier heads as they do the missions in the game.
White Jungle and Aquatic Mine without music would be creepy.
First one because of it's Silent Hill vibes. And the second one because of jupmscares and overall damp dark aesthetics.
There is in fact an Action Replay code to play the game without music. I've done it before on the original Gamecube version, and on an emulator. In fact, that's how I recorded my own version of SA2 so I could add the music tracks in manually and thus control the volume levels so that they weren't playing over the voices during cutscenes.
Now it will not feel great every time I raise chao
And I noticed some of voice/sfx seem to play at certain points with the music and it sounds weird without it
Gosh without the music the game feels soulless idk how you could play the game
City Escape looks like Liberty City from GTA3😭😭😭
I think the music muting when Spotify plays is to make it where there isn’t the Spotify music fighting the game music to be heard. Makes sense to me, but idk
If you think of games as food, music is one of the crucial ingredients that makes the dish taste good. Unless specifically designed around not having a certain ingredient, it's not going to taste quite right. Similarly, music sets the mood in games. Something's going to feel off with it not there.
I'd love a part 2 to this
8:47 ok that was really funny
Just like Minecraft, it's pretty creepy and feels empty.
1:25 - 2:05 is how it sounds like if it happened in real life
8:45 might as well have picked "Underground Lockdown" (PMC base) or "Confirmed Thrills" (Prison island owned by PMC) or even "The Gauntlet" (Public as hell prison break in the middle of a transfer for a retrial)
That video was really funny not gonna lie:)
I'm kinda surprised you didn't include King Boom Boo in this. That level terrified me WITH music. Without it, the "raaah... RRRRAAAAAAAWWWW" is unbearable
Just imagine Sonic Unleashed without music
You can actually turn off music in the settings for Unleashed. It's also eerie, but hearing Sonic's feet touching the ground every step is... oddly relaxing?
@4nrew The idea of not listening to that masterpiece is so heretic to me that I totally forgot that lol I'll try this ASMR out some day
I think the sa2 Spotify thing was coded into the port by whoever devs ported the game into it as a bonus feature, not a glitch.
Best sonic game. Best music in the universe. Crush 40 legend !!
I can still hear it...
I think sonic characters are delusional enough to hear the music too
"We want the air dash back!"
The air dash: 3:23
I'm missing the point here lol I think the game sounds about like you would expect without the music lol
I think almost every movie and game fair about the same without music lol
It just shows you why we have it lol
SA2 Calm Edition
I still hear the music
5:29 did… did Sonic just cut himself off??