THE NEW KAI'SA REWORK IS 100% BROKEN! HER W GOES THROUGH UNITS NOW?!
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- Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
- THE NEW KAI'SA REWORK IS 100% BROKEN! HER W GOES THROUGH UNITS NOW?!
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So Riot gave Kai'sa a 7 sec Ezreal ult. Nice. This will be great in ARAM.
arams moves fast. miss your W and a teamfights over in 10 seconds. before, at least you could spam it every 3s
now we need 5v5 all Kai'sa :D
right? looking forward to play it in aram
In wild rift, lux got reworked a while ago. Her q goes through minions. So she's basically got zyra q.
She will be nerfed af
you know that annoying artillery build where the only counter play was to use minions as a shield.. yeah we got rid of that :)
Dude she cant proc passive with just W anymore and it's much higher cd. When do you ever use minions as shield vs her lategame?? Before evolve it still gets blocked. This makes it way better to play against without killing it because she has good AoE rather than obnoxious poke.
They killed the build.
Tell me you don't anything about AP Kaisa without telling me.
@@nitti172 the build isn't dead but the artillery playstyle certainly is
@@nitti172 The replaced her one on one dominance and insanely safe poke for team fight range. She always could delete waves with Q, so thats not what the change is for. Its to stop people from being able to poke teams down before they can even approach the team/objective. I like that she'll be dominant in late game team fights over objectives tho.
"got rid of the artillery build?"
"No, hiding behind minions from it :)"
ok why is riot sniffing glue with these reworks
You just answered your own question m8
Reworking 2019 champs is scary
I can only imagine how strong a 2030 champ rework is
2018 exactly
cant believe kaisa was 5 years ago tf
I remember a year or so back you did a lethality sniper kaisa build where you just got the cool down naturally low without using the reset mechanic. I'd love to see you try that build again. Full lethality with a shojin in there somewhere
@@emulationemperor8924 W does magic dmg
@@okvis Ah, I think my confusion comes from it having a high AD ratio. I think Zwag built some lethality items because they had the highest amount of raw AD.
@@emulationemperor8924 I know which one you mean. He was going for high dmg Q in that one
13:52: Call an Ambulance, call an ambulance!
13:58: but not for me!
was thinking the same thing 😂
I was about to comment that hahaha
This seems way more oppressive than what it is now.
It very much looks like it. Current W may give a refund, but there's a lot of stuff that can get in the way- so you need to pick and choose when and where to shoot. With this... There's basically no downside to putting it on CD: it essentially turns Ka'sa into a longer ranged Xerath.
What refund does people talk about? Can you explain please @@bragnir
@@De.Stormnessevolved Kaisa W gets an instant 80% cooldown reduction if you hit an enemy player with it
@@bluefox943677%, but close enough.
That's very scary...
“Did Zwag Xerath get the first 6 CS?”
Yes, he got all 6!
Win Streak: 1
In fact he got all 12 first minions
Everyone here is forgetting that the old W would proc passive if you hit it twice (passive does more than W) and it had 80% cd refund. The DPS of the poke went down by an extreme amount just for it to be AoE. And before evolve minions still block it.
Kaisa has Ezreal Ult on her W... nice... this is the kind of rework we all needed. Also Rito, you should try sniffing Gorilla super glue, it doesn't have that weird rocky aftertaste Loctite does.
This is actualy way more balanced than it was before, ap is not as good now
35:32 i love how he scrolls the screen over and they literally ust turn around and walk back to fountain LMAO
Love just hearing all the pokemon music in the background It brings my joy watching you destroy people with jams in the background
I know this will be stupid because normal people don't build tank items on Kai'sa, .. but one of my favorite items in the game is Hollow Radiance because of the way it does AOE damage when it kills anything. So imagine launching her W down a minion wave and watching them all explode. Of course, you can do that just by building AP, but they would do AOE damage with HR.
0:10 excuse me what the fkc?.
Yh, what the fkc?
bruh i said the same thing then saw yo comment Lmaoo💀
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Seems like her ability to kill players might have taken a slight nerf, but her wave clear, which was already high, is now absurd.
Hmm the navori would now be really useful even in an AP build, to get W back quicker with each AA
zwag act like getting plating just to get himself killed so they dont ff early . man i love this guy what a chad
Lethality Kaisa, W has 130% AD scaling, items give haste, and you can get Shadowflame for the W upgrade and crit bellow 35%, Axiom Arc, etc.
Unfortunately not as good, obviously her q and autos would hurt a lot more but w was hitting for 1200 at the end of this one, full ad would at max be around 800
Bruiser/splitpush Kai'sa with seraphs - hullbreaker - botrk or steraks - wits end - liandries or another tank item - cdr boots or magic pen is something I thought about.
What zwag forgot to mention is that if you can pierce through the frontline, you can get your passive on squishies for an easy assassination. They are pushing for kai'sa to be a fully hybrid carry, since auto atack kai'sa is the one that can actually assassinate so well.
omg that ZAC blob kill i needed that. it made my day lol
I watch your videos to sleep your voice is so soothing 😂
Would Flickerblade work with getting the W come off cooldown faster or fast enough for plasma boom?
Well yes, not reset but should get reduced a lot
@@IIIlIlYea! Hell yea! thats what i meant but thank for clarifying, ill edit the message
You would have to be autoattacking though and with this build you won't have AS
@@burd12 but with Kaisa E and flickerblade together gives a decent amount of attack speed
@@burd12 the idea is still cool and flickerblade gives AS, no? Idk brainstorming is fun 😂
Ulala this update is interesting. First strike and start with AP might be interesting to farm and get ahead
Dude not putting wards on annoyed me the whole match lol
That waveclear is nuts.
Suddenly kaisa has better waveclear than sivir
hi, when it will be released on normal one ?
You def don’t need any AD items with this rework. The W clears anything in its path
But isn't the AD ratio on the W just straight up better? Even if most items give more AP than AD, I feel like it's more gold efficient to build AD if you wanna play around W damage?
I guess you could build haste AD items with some AP items that give mpen and mana (to convert to AD)
@@IIIlIl the W does magic damage so building AD is actually worse because most AD items will fail to apply their passives which is most important part of ability. Also building AD does nothing for Kai Sa passive becuase it is only AP ratio. Missing out on more damage that way
Great vid Zwag!
love the background music
dope snipes by the zwag lord
Is this gunna be a live patch or is this how kaisa used to work?
It's slightly balance it doesn't have reset anymore so you can't keep spamming it
But you also had to shot a champion and if you didn't you got punished by cd. And now you can't escape it. As commenters above said. It's Ez's and Lux's ult with less cd. So it technically got worse
*laughs in navori flickerblades*
They forgot to add the thing for piercing attacks where each subsequent hit deals reduced damage
A hydra would proc on every target right? Need them to stand really close to get value though, not sure if worth.
Hey, I know it's not related to this video, but what's your keyboard setup. It sounds so good ^^
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@@Zwag Thank you 🙏
what if they make it so the next person you hit with 1 W gets an extra stack of her passive
I think with the w change you can go ap first. It will still give wave clear
This is chovys wet dream farm 3 lanes at once
Love your videos Zway, Been watching for quite a while, would love to see a zed game
Can you do the AP on hit senna before it gets nerfed? Loved the PBE full support senna but I’m interested in guinsoos+full ap after that
The wave clear is nuts with the change
I just played Kai'Sa, evolved my W and found out that its not gotten the update you are using yet, how are you doing this?
Good thing Zwag is not working with riot games, he would break the game fr
can you try mid bard?
Oh man, some of that build would be great for Lissandra. I hope you do a Lissandra video soon.
People still gonna do the kraken kaisa build with a nashors second or third for w updrage so that they can apply their passive to multiple people in a teamfight making her a teamfighting boss being able to proc her passive much faster on everybody.
If you have a full team of CC champ you can utilize passive with snipe more
Is this live??
How do you zoom out more in league, I have scrolled out while playing but my game always seems more zoomed in than zwag's or other streamers
the zoom is the same, they just have their UI smaller so the screen looks bigger
is this change realy coming live? i try today on training map and it didnt work
I have a question 🤔 I would like to know if we can have the music playlist that you are listening to in the background of your videos 😊
shivana hybrid build gonna be crazy on kaisa too
It may be better to do that but the damage is reduced for each target hit, obviously with a limit
the last W did 1000 dmg, his last passive proc also did 1000 dmg. that means if he hits two people with a single W, the W dmg is better than before. its situational, but saying the build is dead bcs you cant proc passive dmg cause you lost cd reset is not thinking deeper
You need to hit half the team with every w for this to not be a nerf. The nerf is absolutely massive and is most probably dead now.
Kaisa ap will be fun on urf
I play jungle kaisa full ap attack speed maxing e->w->q and never evolving q. Clear was already good but this will make it insane
Always love a good Kai'sa game!
what if you upgrade the W and went AD after?
How about lethality, Zwag? Comes with a lot of haste and AD. Considering the AD scaling of W, think it can be better?
Kaisa W deals magic dmg so there's no point in building lethality
Don't know what to think of this. My guess is Riot will treat it like a normal waveclear ability and gut the numbers. I don't really want that to happen. AP Kai'sa was always about hitting like a truck but waveclear plus that much damage is just broken.
Why not dark harvest or first strike though?
Challenge: play max zoom in only. most likely Yi or some melee champ? something braindead, but cinematic zoom in only
Day 8 of asking Zwag to play full move speed Yorick, because no one ever seen a 'Rick run so fast.
Dudes can you imagine the baron snipes? No one can block Kai’sa w from getting to baron anymore!!!🤯
Kai'sa skin sales must have decreased by 1%. Now it's fixed
13:53 call an ambulance! call an ambulance...! but not for me!!!
Nah that zoom out XD changed a lot
Suggestion:
I recently played akali but insted of full dmg, i build her liandrys>riftmaker>warmogs rabadons.
TRUST ME THIS IS BROKEN.
you still oneshot ppl already with 2 items but you cant die.
5k hp akali with 800ap and 37 kills on 8 deaths.
Absolutely crazy was this
Shout out to my boy teemo out there finally in the jg like the true scout that he is
did riot nerfed elise ?
cause the hitbox of her stun was bigger before the update
I was waiting for this video.
Zwag: W doesnt get blocked now and goes through units...next W: gets blocked by minion.
When upgraded*
I truly dislike this change, for so many reasons.
1. This absolutely guts AP Kai'Sa. Kai'Sa used to have 3 builds - AD on-hit, triple upgrade, and AP artillery. The AP build is completely decimated with this change. Not nerfed, just completely dead. They could simply have changed the AP scaling on her passive so she doesn't just delete every squishy in 2 hits and every tank in 4. Her current W makes it such that AP Kai'Sa is a gimmick build that presses only one button for damage and the rest is supplementary. At best, you're a long-range engage AP assassin that can burst one moderately squishy champ real fast and have nothing left if you're not overly fed.
2. This completely overbuffs the triple upgrade build. Not only does that build now have way more waveclear than necessary (Q + Statikk's + W), it can also apply 3 stacks of plasma to multiple champs in one go, and you can't even block it, only dodge. It does ridiculous amounts of damage to non-tank champs for an ability on a ~8-10s cooldown that has 3000 range and passes through everything it hits without applying reduced damage beyond the first target hit. This would be fine if it were the main source of damage. On a triple upgrade build, this is the tertiary source of damage.
3. Maybe debatable, but I think this absolutely destroys the (however small) concept of positioning and skill expression with the ability. Before, you'd have to position obliquely to get Ws on the target you want, even if the only thing blocking are minions. Conversely, enemies can position in such a way that they can block Ws using minions or ally champions (and their abilities like windwalls and spell shields). Now it doesn't matter. You can stand in the middle of the lane and just press W and you'll hit something. At worst, you'll clear the wave. And it makes W just spammable off-CD because there's no penalty for missing or benefit for hitting multiple in a row in a short time. You just press W off-CD and wait for it to hit something.
4. Most importantly, there was no reason to make a change like this. The main reason Riot always has problems with balancing Kai'Sa is her passive and itemisation/runes. It has never been her mobility, her range, or damage on the rest of her kit. Ok to be fair, her mobility has sometimes been a problem, but it's always a problem in the context of "she does too much damage to be moving this much", which comes back to her passive and items/runes. When the AD on-hit build does too much damage, it's an item problem. When the triple upgrade/AP build does too much damage, it's a passive problem. You can very easily balance Kai'Sa by adjusting the numbers on these two aspects, since if AD on-hit Kai'Sa is doing too much damage, you can bet 100% other AD on-hit builds are running rampant in the meta (this was absolutely the case with the whole lethal tempo problem). Meanwhile if triple upgrade/AP Kai'Sa is doing too much damage, it's 100% the fact that the passive missing health damage is too high.
I wonder if it can proc static shiv
They're going to end up reverting this change or heavily reduce the damage values.
I dont think I’d ever seen 300+ CS
Nobody ever said that kaisa is weak and needs a rework. But hey its Rito
When it's gonna be available?
they stopped working on it i think
@@ThatThing1020 whhhyyyy
@@mozonhazzaa1866 because ap kaisa would be died
They should do this for nid q
Why does zwag never use his flash... why even take it if you hold it all game??
When will they rework some of the OG champions like Riven, Garen Kha'zix etc.
Huh. If her W can clear waves can you just go an AP item first with a ring? Easy combo of auto-W-auto-Q for your passive into an execute. Dare I say... Lich bane? Yeah, the extra burst of AS would have secured so many passive procs this game
Finally, a "rework" that actually changed an ability's mechanics.
I love riot they can take a fun build and turn it so broken that its not fun anymore
What's the song around 16-17 mins?
Hydra on her is just pure fun
Think u can 1shot someone with malignance and collector?
Id this live or on PBE?
i love how they want to nerf poke kaisa like its OP or something but they still allow yasuo and yone to exist
It should be balanced if it deals full damage to first minion (not champ) and then like 20% Cuz that wave clear is way too nasty. That's the only problem I see, considering other champs' abilties
Is nashors not a core item for Kai sa anymore
Now ap kaisa can be played without q upgrade or any ad, just focus on ap and cdr
I feel like nashoors and boots make this still shred the fk out of people + is barely enough for E upgrade
i think nashors is way better than full ap since you rely way more on your passive with this
Gonna go kai sai supp now and poke endlessly
17:25 what a song on bg?
zwag using a skin for the first time