I have two main theories for book ten: A lot of people have made guesses about Blur's identity, but what if he's actually Sophie's father? Basically all we know about him is that he's a phaser, he has full lips and round cheeks (which isn't all that descriptive) that Sophie thinks look familiar, and his identity requires a long explanation. None of this necessarily points directly to him being her father, but it doesn't seem impossible, either, considering the tiny amount we actually know about her parents. My other theory is that elves and humans are actually the same species. One or the other is the result of genetic mutation. Vespera's experiments were either meant to discover what had gone wrong genetically and how to maximize the strength of each "species", or they were the cause of the mutation in the first place. The Council were the ones to segregate against the humans to the point where they were considered a different species, and then they covered everything up by erasing the memories.
If book 10 truly is the last book I think we will see a huge resolution between the black swan and the neverseen, and I think it will be peaceful instead of a final battle. i also hope to see a resolution to like every question we would ever have lol
I think they'll form a temporary alliance, like Vespera and the main trope did, to overthrow Elysian and Gisela. It'd be like WW3. Everyone would battle against Elysian and Gisela. I doubt Keefe is going to die, Shannon would get soooo much hate. After the battle, the black swan and the neverseen will fight epicly and the black swan will win.
So I remember in his cache Kenric said something like, “We’ve locked someone away for thousands of years,” we assumed that that was Vespera, but it could also have easily been Elysian! That might also explain why Kenric had a map to Elysian. (I also personally think that Elysian is a place, person, AND the name of the sixth unmapped star.)
I think Elysian is one of Vespera's experiments That would explain how she is connected to nightfall Like (what was it.....2000 years ago that Vespera got locked in lumenaria?) And (correct me if I'm wrong) in stellarlune it said that the star only appears once every 2000 years So the timeline would match up What if Vespera was experimenting on Elysian to find out why elves have abilities and humans don't and managed to spark abilities in Elysian and it went horribly wrong That's right.....what if Elysian IS A HUMAN And how Vespera did it was harnessing the power from that one unmapped star and managed to give Elysian a super powerful ability Also this ties into my other theory about Elysian That she was the original owner of Brumvale Because Forkle said that no one new the original owner but did say it was VERY old What if Vespera kidnapped Elysian from Brumvale and then did experiments on her in the Nightfall facility And the experiments she did on Elysian were named Stellarlune and that's the name of the unwrapped star And this is were it ties into Keefe What if Lady Giselle's thought is: "if stellarlune is that powerful on a human what about an elf" The reason Keefe needs the last step is because if not he'll become unstable (which he already is) or he might die On top of that Vespera said that her and Giselas visions were opposite of each other but Giselle said they were more connected than she thought What if Vespera was trying to make humans like elves and lady Giselle was trying to make elves like humans and how she plans to do that is by having Elysian or Keefe take away their abilities
Okay, I have three theories, and two of them are kinda long, so bear with me. One: I think that Book 10 will be called Elysian, because, y'know, the whole cliffhanger thing? Two: I think that the reason Elysian can kind of suck to power out of people is because they have a sort of ability, like the opposite of an enhancer. Maybe a dehancer? I don't know, but I think that Elysian might be one of the forgotten secrets. Maybe they were banished for sucking the power out of people, which made them angry, so they hid away in the hidden area that Sophie and her friends were at during the BRUTAL cliffhanger? I also think that Lady Gisela found Elysian and promised them that she would bring change into the world, and made an alliance with Vespara to do so. Three: Since Shannon said in the acknowledgements that this cliffhanger was a scene that she'd been leading up to the whole series... I think that someone is going to die. My first thought was Keefe, but I think it would make more sense for (if he were to die) for it to happen in the final battle. Then, I thought about Sandor, but I can't really see why she would kill him off now. But then I thought... what about Lady Gisela? I mean, Elysian already killed Vespara, so maybe they planned to eliminate the Neverseen/not Neverseen (I don't even know at this point) members so they can take over and lead? And it would really affect the plot, because Keefe would have so many conflicting emotions and everyone's plans would change and maybe it would cause all the Councillors to open their caches?
Here are the events I think are going to happen in book 10: Keefe said that he was numb and can't really feel anybody's emotions in the last book, what if keefe is going to be forced to hurt elfs into submission for something Lady Gisela wants, and because he won't feel their emotions, his mind won't shatter. Sophie will get a power just as groundbreaking and new as Keefe's power Keefe will die at some point to save Sophie's life. Lady Gisela’s plan will fail because Keefe died, and Cassius will be heartbroken because he was just starting to warm up to Keefe, his son, and now he’s dead. (Idk I feel like the last one is kinda far fetched but whatever)
I think that , like Elysian was experimented on by the council( like Keefe) to try and make them more powerful, so they could have had an edge over like humans and ogres.However the experiment didn’t go as planned and was unstable (like Keefe ) and the council new they messed up and hid Elysian away and erased her existence so that people wouldn’t lose faith in the council. Then the still needed and edge over humans since they don’t have the guilt that elves have. So they forced Vespera to have experiments on them and then when she was caught by emissaries they didn’t want to admit that they did that so they locked up vespera and got rid of humans and deleted their mistakes of that time. Also: That’s the vacker legacy because Fallon was the one who suggested the idea
Ok, so i have a elysian theory... At the end of Stellarlune, Elysian says: im the power source you've been looking for. The "power source" doesn't have to mean magic. Power can also mean leadership or contol of an area/group. So what if, before the council, the elves had a royal family, and Elysian is one of them?! And Elysian was saying that shes the rightful heir of the lost cities who will guide them through darkness and afflictions? Also, what if the royal family was getting too powerful, and so thats why they locked elysian away and created the council.
i actually think grady might be her dad. we know jolie was involved in the black swan, her parents didnt seem to know but ita plausible that grady did and kept it a secret. i also think the whole jolie plot line had no closure. like we figured out how she died but i kinda feel they just figured it out and they really had no closure to her life. like sophie barely knows anything about her, who knows what had gone on with her. and thats why i feel grady being sophies father just makes a bit more sense than elwin. HI BILLY. LOVE YOU GUYS AND UR VIDS! HOPE THIS ONE GETS PICKED :)
I have a theory about Keefe's legacy: So, in the recent books, the books have been mostly about Keefe's legacy. And Sophie is just trying to save him from that. So, I think that Lady Gisela and Elysian are going to team up and fufill Keefe's legacy. So since Elysian can like steal people's abilities, I think he is going to take Sophie's abilities and give it to Keefe. Lady Gisela has known about Project Moonlark for a long time and knew that it was supposed to be this whole powerful thing. And since she made a legacy for her son and wanted Keefe to be super powerful, she wanted to team up with Elysian and steal Sophie's abilities so Keefe will become more powerful, and Lady Gisela and Keefe (If Keefe listens and teams up with Lady Gisela) will be more powerful than the council.
So yeah I have a couple of theories but that’s not the point I wanna make. So if Shannon makes Keefe die I will be torn, this series helped me get through rough times especially Keefe so making him die will effect me a lot
I actually think Blur is one of two Elves, and neither of them could be Sophie's father. The first option is Fernan Babblos, Jensi's older brother, who is mentioned to be a Phaser. He is probably too young to have been involved in Project Moonlark. The other Elf who I think could be Blur is Councillor Darek, who has too much contact with Oralie to be plausible, as Mr Forkle said that there was no major contact between them.
I have a kotlc theory. In the last book, it is revealed that Keefe is sort of going numb, what if in the next book, Keefe slowly starts to lose his feelings for Sophie and Sophie gets upset for one, that Keefe is going numb, two, she denied her feelings for him for so long and now they’re together and now he’s losing his feelings for her, and three, Keefe's not even motivated to fix himself. I feel like there’s going to be a big fight between them and stuff said like “I just got you back, I’m not really to lose you now.” And “You said you cared about me, Keefe. If you really cared you’d fight for us and right now, all you seem to be doing is letting your mom when and losing us. Your losing me, Keefe.”
I honestly feel like in book ten we're going to find out Sophie's dads identity (I for one think it is Elwin). I think that Elysian and Vespera had some sort of connection. Like maybe they were sisters. As we know Vespera is very ancient and is probably like ten millenias old, so maybe Elysian is too? I think that Elysian pretends to team up with Gisela and the neverseen to over throw the council and rule the lost cities, along with the other species that live there. I think that eventually Elysian will overthrow Gisela and trap her in the prison she was trapped in for hundereds of years as revenge of Vespera. I think Elysian holds more power than any elf in the lost cities and she might do something to keefe as another plan of revenge for vespera.
My theory is Elsyian was Vesperas experiment that's why she was desperate to find the hidden place and she didn't want Gisela to find Elsyian because she didn't want Gisela to destroy or ruin what she was doing, before she got locked away and the councillors found out abt what vespera was doing and Instead of chatting they decided to pretend the world was at peace and locked Elysian in there because they thought she was a weapon and that's when Kenric found out or maybe he knew but he wanted to see the place for himself and he wanted to know if the empath felt the same way so he took Oralie there and then I feel like The blackswan and neverseen might team up bc Gisela killed their current leader and Gisela and Esylian might team up and the loser cities would go into war just a theory
I reckon sophies dad is a character we know. think about it, all this time in all these books shannon gives no nod to who her dad sctually is. how could shannon randomly put another new character in her seemingly last book, there would need to be character development and shannon usually takes multiple books just to develop one character, i think we know who her father is and some possible theories could be: 1. elwin i dont particularly agree with this one, he just doesn't seem like the right fit to be her dad if that makes sense, like they have to share something in common, elwin is a flasher has curly brown hair and blue eyes, he doesn't share any common genes which is irrelevant since sophie is an experiment but just pointing it out is nesscecary 2. grady i kind of see where this one is coming from. we know jolie was involved with the black swan so who knows if grady is actually her dad. i mean shannon is one for foreshadowing and a lot of people in the series remark that grady and sophie look similar, but that just might be oralies genes. anyway i just feel this one is more plausible than elwin. i dont really know. maybe someone involved on the collective? also i love ur videos! keep up the good work! :)
I think teirgan is sophie's dad. In book she you talked about being abandoned by her Biological parents and it made teirgan have a really forlorn look on his face also like blondes... and teirgan is an important member of the black swan and he never had kids of his own so mabye it was kinda like oralie
The problem is the clue that Forkle dropped, “we went to extreme lengths to make sure the parents never met each other.” Oralie met BOTH of them. Thing is, ‘extreme lengths,’ could mean they- well ummm- killed the father. But I don’t think they did that bc the Black Swan don’t really do that kind of thing. HOWEVER! Sometimes Forkle controls- like A LOT- and the whole ‘we’ could have been a slip. We know the Neverseen has NO PROBLEM killing and torturing and experimenting and whatnot so I can slightly see the Neverseen killing the father after realizing. And Gisela always knows more! About the Black Swans plans. About Sophie. About their group. Abilities. Heck! Gisela even praises Sophie! So WHAT IF and this is a VERY big WHAT IF- Forkle and Gisela we’re working together and Forkle slipped the parents and then Gisela decided to kill them (this leads to the Ethan Benedict Wright theory bc if he’s her dad then Gisela may have killed him, realizing that recruiting him meant recruiting the Moonlark’s father, which could lead to a possible betrayal. Eleanor was just caught in the crossfire) Gisela also tried to kill Oralie, but git stopped by her bodyguard. At the time no one realized that she was a villain therefore they didn’t arrest her on sight near Oralie’s castle. Gisela realized there was no way to kill her so instead began planning KENRIC’s death bc it would practically destabilize Oralie, which was as close to dead as Gisela could get her (we know they take like YEARS to plan everything as we heard in Legacy in Loamnore where Lady Gisela said, “This moment has been months in the making.” And Lady Gisela KNEW that Fintan would get arrested if someone saw him, his mind WOULD get broken, and from Forkle she would know that Sophie could HEAL MINDS. This made a timeline where in the mess of broken minds that he could kill Kenric, and if not Kenric then another Council which, rather than destabilizing Oralie, would destabilize the world for a moment. (This could be used either for preparing Keefe’s legacy or possibly killing Oralie idk) But of course they got Kenric. So Oralie basically had a mental breakdown which- if you think about it- caused a LOT of problems. Alina got elected which actually took a big toll on the world since Alina became a Councilor so Magnate Leto became principal so there was now a new Beacon for the silver tower or the tower where the HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATION takes place, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. Not to mention KENRIC’s cache. Oralie was literally put under SUPERVISION. This took Oralie out of the picture, I bet Gisela hoped that this would last for longer than it did but oh well. Plus Gisela always seems to know more about the Council and Forkle would know about the Douncil if he was researching EVERY POSSIBLE DONOR. So yeah. I think Forkle and Gisela tag teamed and then backstabbed each other. Which resulted in Ethan’s death. And A MILLION PROBLEMS for Oralie. Plus: They never met 😊
There are two other theories which are even more brutal, because they link to the Neverseen. 1. Gethen This is a maybe for me. The only time they could have met was during the Collapse of Lumenaria, and Gethen has a lot of similarities to Sophie, so there is definitely an argument for it. The main problem is how he could possibly be the Black Swan's other donor if he was with the Neverseen. 2. Fintan This is extremely far-fetched because he's definitely met Oralie, and the Black Swan were trying as hard as they could to make sure Pyrokinesis wasn't on the cards for Sophie. Not my theories, just some that are out there.
As we know Elysian probably has a lot of powers. Elysian could be male if she can mime men. I still don't know who it would be. Knowing Shannon, it's probably some we herd of, going to Troy's point that it could be Lady Fayina. I could be wrong but, it is still a possibility Elysain is male. I am also holding on to SoKeefe book 10. My other theory is that Cyrah is Elysain. In chapter 64 of Nightfall when Sophie was getting ready to do do the healing Cyrah's voice was descibed as "melodic" just like Elysain's HI BILLY! LOVE THE VIDS.
My theory is that elysian is a new character. but…for sophie’s dad i think it’s elwin? could be someone else but that js sounds right to me. Another theory is that it’s a human or another intelligent species and so sophie is kinda hybrid ig
This is not a theory buttt I have this fan fiction idea and I have to know if any of you would read it!!! (I hope it’s okay I share it here.) So jolie is the main character in my book and theirs way more details about her and brant but the details of how they separated or how the accident happened ended differently and Jolie is still alive. She lives kind of happily with her parents and is their for Sophie through all of what has happened in the last 9 books. But here’s the catch Keefe has a secret older brother who is a neverseen member. He’s kind of behind the scenes of the neverseen so the black swan doesn’t really know about him and keefe isn’t even aware that he has a brother let alone that he’s in the never seen either. But jolie does because she knows more about the neverseen then anyone thought. Keefes older brother just so happens to be similar in age to jolie and have abit of a liking toward each other. That’s basically the plot. If the romance makes you uncomfy there’s more I want to add to it like more backstory to every single neverseen character that isn’t written in the books but how I perceive their past lives instead. And if you don’t want to read it at all that’s fine but just think about it a keefe 2.0 lmao well anyways I would be honored if the kotlc fan base gave me some feed or any of their subscribers would give me some feedback as well!
I think there is no way Alden is part of the neverseen but what if he wants revenge on Sophie for making the vackers look bad? She found out alvar is evil and she technically broke aldens mind ( prentice story ) and everyone saw the trolls in everglen and she got biana and Fitz banished sooo ik it's really confusing but it's makes sense sort of?..
Here's mine: Elysium is connected to the humans that keefe once delivered letter to. Maybe Elysium fell in love with that man or something and she might have given him a clue about Stellarlune. Maybe that's why Gisela sent a letter to him, to ask for the clue. And when he didn't give her that, Gisela killed him and his daughter. Makes sense?
Okokok y'all hold in here with me So you know how alden is really suspicious? In exile it mentioned that because Alden's mind broke he may have forgotten some things but that Alden had a TON of secret projects that he never told ANYONE. That's when Alden stopped being wholesome for me. What if he was secretly comunicating with the neverseen to spy or something but when his mind broke but he forgot he was spying and just thought he was a neverseen member for real. The only thing I cant figure out is why they would trust Alden. Any thoughts?
Guys, i think the theory about the Sencens being able to sense Sophie's emotions better and all that is going in a weird direction cause if you guys remember, Stina could also feel her emotions without touch. So now im confused! 😭😭😭
what if lady gisela got keefe’s dna and gave it to the black swan, and basically made him Sophie’s biological father. Edit: I have read every book and ship SOKEEFE, I just like chaos.
This is REALLY far fetched sooo The problem is the clue that Forkle dropped, “we went to extreme lengths to make sure the parents never met each other.” Oralie met BOTH of them. Thing is, ‘extreme lengths,’ could mean they- well ummm- killed the father. But I don’t think they did that bc the Black Swan don’t really do that kind of thing. HOWEVER! Sometimes Forkle controls- like A LOT- and the whole ‘we’ could have been a slip. We know the Neverseen has NO PROBLEM killing and torturing and experimenting and whatnot so I can slightly see the Neverseen killing the father after realizing. And Gisela always knows more! About the Black Swans plans. About Sophie. About their group. Abilities. Heck! Gisela even praises Sophie! So WHAT IF and this is a VERY big WHAT IF- Forkle and Gisela we’re working together and Forkle slipped the parents and then Gisela decided to kill them (this leads to the Ethan Benedict Wright theory bc if he’s her dad then Gisela may have killed him, realizing that recruiting him meant recruiting the Moonlark’s father, which could lead to a possible betrayal. Eleanor was just caught in the crossfire) Gisela also tried to kill Oralie, but git stopped by her bodyguard. At the time no one realized that she was a villain therefore they didn’t arrest her on sight near Oralie’s castle. Gisela realized there was no way to kill her so instead began planning KENRIC’s death bc it would practically destabilize Oralie, which was as close to dead as Gisela could get her (we know they take like YEARS to plan everything as we heard in Legacy in Loamnore where Lady Gisela said, “This moment has been months in the making.” And Lady Gisela KNEW that Fintan would get arrested if someone saw him, his mind WOULD get broken, and from Forkle she would know that Sophie could HEAL MINDS. This made a timeline where in the mess of broken minds that he could kill Kenric, and if not Kenric then another Council which, rather than destabilizing Oralie, would destabilize the world for a moment. (This could be used either for preparing Keefe’s legacy or possibly killing Oralie idk) But of course they got Kenric. So Oralie basically had a mental breakdown which- if you think about it- caused a LOT of problems. Alina got elected which actually took a big toll on the world since Alina became a Councilor so Magnate Leto became principal so there was now a new Beacon for the silver tower or the tower where the HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATION takes place, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR. Not to mention KENRIC’s cache. Oralie was literally put under SUPERVISION. This took Oralie out of the picture, I bet Gisela hoped that this would last for longer than it did but oh well. Plus Gisela always seems to know more about the Council and Forkle would know about the Douncil if he was researching EVERY POSSIBLE DONOR. So yeah. I think Forkle and Gisela tag teamed and then backstabbed each other. Which resulted in Ethan’s death. And A MILLION PROBLEMS for Oralie. Plus: They never met 😊 And never will.
That was long, but a few things: U spelled it douncil at the end Ethan was a human with a human name and stuff When forkle said we went extreme blah blah blah stuff that could have meant that like they ever formally met or they never knew each other as dna donors. Maybe they had to be together during the whole thing and the memory was erased from them both. Otherwise great theory and I think that elwin is the dad idk
I think in book 10, Oralie could die. I think Sophie will finally be able to forgive her a bit, not totally, how could she? But come to terms with it. Than Oralie dies either sacrificing herself for Sophie or someone Sophie cares for or just being killed like Mr forke or Vespera was. I can’t wait for book 10! 😄 but if anything happens to my favourites like Keefe……..
I've had this theory that Sophie's eye colour is mixed eye colour, so maybe mix oralie's eye colour with every male kotlc character and see if you get brown
I think Blur is Jensi brother because every book he talks about how he is a Phaser another theory Blur could also be Sophie’s dad…this isn’t as strong as a theory cause the only evidence is Keefe saying her dad could be a Phaser so idk about that one
honestly I could rly see Sophies dad being human, just to further solidify the bridge Sophie was between the elvin and human worlds.
I have two main theories for book ten:
A lot of people have made guesses about Blur's identity, but what if he's actually Sophie's father? Basically all we know about him is that he's a phaser, he has full lips and round cheeks (which isn't all that descriptive) that Sophie thinks look familiar, and his identity requires a long explanation. None of this necessarily points directly to him being her father, but it doesn't seem impossible, either, considering the tiny amount we actually know about her parents.
My other theory is that elves and humans are actually the same species. One or the other is the result of genetic mutation. Vespera's experiments were either meant to discover what had gone wrong genetically and how to maximize the strength of each "species", or they were the cause of the mutation in the first place. The Council were the ones to segregate against the humans to the point where they were considered a different species, and then they covered everything up by erasing the memories.
If book 10 truly is the last book I think we will see a huge resolution between the black swan and the neverseen, and I think it will be peaceful instead of a final battle. i also hope to see a resolution to like every question we would ever have lol
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I don’t know if that’s possible 💀💀 but yessss!!!
I think they'll form a temporary alliance, like Vespera and the main trope did, to overthrow Elysian and Gisela. It'd be like WW3. Everyone would battle against Elysian and Gisela. I doubt Keefe is going to die, Shannon would get soooo much hate. After the battle, the black swan and the neverseen will fight epicly and the black swan will win.
So I remember in his cache Kenric said something like, “We’ve locked someone away for thousands of years,” we assumed that that was Vespera, but it could also have easily been Elysian! That might also explain why Kenric had a map to Elysian. (I also personally think that Elysian is a place, person, AND the name of the sixth unmapped star.)
I think Elysian is one of Vespera's experiments
That would explain how she is connected to nightfall
Like (what was it.....2000 years ago that Vespera got locked in lumenaria?) And (correct me if I'm wrong) in stellarlune it said that the star only appears once every 2000 years
So the timeline would match up
What if Vespera was experimenting on Elysian to find out why elves have abilities and humans don't and managed to spark abilities in Elysian and it went horribly wrong
That's right.....what if Elysian IS A HUMAN
And how Vespera did it was harnessing the power from that one unmapped star and managed to give Elysian a super powerful ability
Also this ties into my other theory about Elysian
That she was the original owner of Brumvale
Because Forkle said that no one new the original owner but did say it was VERY old
What if Vespera kidnapped Elysian from Brumvale and then did experiments on her in the Nightfall facility
And the experiments she did on Elysian were named Stellarlune and that's the name of the unwrapped star
And this is were it ties into Keefe
What if Lady Giselle's thought is: "if stellarlune is that powerful on a human what about an elf"
The reason Keefe needs the last step is because if not he'll become unstable (which he already is) or he might die
On top of that Vespera said that her and Giselas visions were opposite of each other but Giselle said they were more connected than she thought
What if Vespera was trying to make humans like elves and lady Giselle was trying to make elves like humans and how she plans to do that is by having Elysian or Keefe take away their abilities
damn... that would be heckin cool.. but fr the timeline between vespera getting imprisoned and the stellarlune appearance adds up..
Okay, I have three theories, and two of them are kinda long, so bear with me.
One: I think that Book 10 will be called Elysian, because, y'know, the whole cliffhanger thing?
Two: I think that the reason Elysian can kind of suck to power out of people is because they have a sort of ability, like the opposite of an enhancer. Maybe a dehancer? I don't know, but I think that Elysian might be one of the forgotten secrets. Maybe they were banished for sucking the power out of people, which made them angry, so they hid away in the hidden area that Sophie and her friends were at during the BRUTAL cliffhanger? I also think that Lady Gisela found Elysian and promised them that she would bring change into the world, and made an alliance with Vespara to do so.
Three: Since Shannon said in the acknowledgements that this cliffhanger was a scene that she'd been leading up to the whole series... I think that someone is going to die. My first thought was Keefe, but I think it would make more sense for (if he were to die) for it to happen in the final battle. Then, I thought about Sandor, but I can't really see why she would kill him off now. But then I thought... what about Lady Gisela? I mean, Elysian already killed Vespara, so maybe they planned to eliminate the Neverseen/not Neverseen (I don't even know at this point) members so they can take over and lead? And it would really affect the plot, because Keefe would have so many conflicting emotions and everyone's plans would change and maybe it would cause all the Councillors to open their caches?
Here are the events I think are going to happen in book 10:
Keefe said that he was numb and can't really feel anybody's emotions in the last book, what if keefe is going to be forced to hurt elfs into submission for something Lady Gisela wants, and because he won't feel their emotions, his mind won't shatter.
Sophie will get a power just as groundbreaking and new as Keefe's power
Keefe will die at some point to save Sophie's life.
Lady Gisela’s plan will fail because Keefe died, and Cassius will be heartbroken because he was just starting to warm up to Keefe, his son, and now he’s dead. (Idk I feel like the last one is kinda far fetched but whatever)
shannon better not kill off my keefe 😭 but if it is necessary then i am alright simping over a dead book character 😂❤
Dude if Keefe dies…
keefe CAN NOT DIE plssssssssss Shannon
I think that , like Elysian was experimented on by the council( like Keefe) to try and make them more powerful, so they could have had an edge over like humans and ogres.However the experiment didn’t go as planned and was unstable (like Keefe ) and the council new they messed up and hid Elysian away and erased her existence so that people wouldn’t lose faith in the council. Then the still needed and edge over humans since they don’t have the guilt that elves have. So they forced Vespera to have experiments on them and then when she was caught by emissaries they didn’t want to admit that they did that so they locked up vespera and got rid of humans and deleted their mistakes of that time.
Also: That’s the vacker legacy because Fallon was the one who suggested the idea
Ok, so i have a elysian theory...
At the end of Stellarlune, Elysian says: im the power source you've been looking for.
The "power source" doesn't have to mean magic. Power can also mean leadership or contol of an area/group.
So what if, before the council, the elves had a royal family, and Elysian is one of them?! And Elysian was saying that shes the rightful heir of the lost cities who will guide them through darkness and afflictions?
Also, what if the royal family was getting too powerful, and so thats why they locked elysian away and created the council.
i actually think grady might be her dad. we know jolie was involved in the black swan, her parents didnt seem to know but ita plausible that grady did and kept it a secret. i also think the whole jolie plot line had no closure. like we figured out how she died but i kinda feel they just figured it out and they really had no closure to her life. like sophie barely knows anything about her, who knows what had gone on with her. and thats why i feel grady being sophies father just makes a bit more sense than elwin.
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I have a theory about Keefe's legacy:
So, in the recent books, the books have been mostly about Keefe's legacy. And Sophie is just trying to save him from that. So, I think that Lady Gisela and Elysian are going to team up and fufill Keefe's legacy. So since Elysian can like steal people's abilities, I think he is going to take Sophie's abilities and give it to Keefe. Lady Gisela has known about Project Moonlark for a long time and knew that it was supposed to be this whole powerful thing. And since she made a legacy for her son and wanted Keefe to be super powerful, she wanted to team up with Elysian and steal Sophie's abilities so Keefe will become more powerful, and Lady Gisela and Keefe (If Keefe listens and teams up with Lady Gisela) will be more powerful than the council.
So yeah I have a couple of theories but that’s not the point I wanna make. So if Shannon makes Keefe die I will be torn, this series helped me get through rough times especially Keefe so making him die will effect me a lot
Same for me
I wonder if Blur could possibly be Sophie's father since he won't revile his true identity.
maybe
I actually think Blur is one of two Elves, and neither of them could be Sophie's father. The first option is Fernan Babblos, Jensi's older brother, who is mentioned to be a Phaser. He is probably too young to have been involved in Project Moonlark. The other Elf who I think could be Blur is Councillor Darek, who has too much contact with Oralie to be plausible, as Mr Forkle said that there was no major contact between them.
I have a kotlc theory. In the last book, it is revealed that Keefe is sort of going numb, what if in the next book, Keefe slowly starts to lose his feelings for Sophie and Sophie gets upset for one, that Keefe is going numb, two, she denied her feelings for him for so long and now they’re together and now he’s losing his feelings for her, and three, Keefe's not even motivated to fix himself. I feel like there’s going to be a big fight between them and stuff said like “I just got you back, I’m not really to lose you now.” And “You said you cared about me, Keefe. If you really cared you’d fight for us and right now, all you seem to be doing is letting your mom when and losing us. Your losing me, Keefe.”
OK, I love the Bronte-Elysian theory! From a writing standpoint that would really work (except the romance part, but friends, definitely).
I also think there is going to be a many years later thing at the end of the book like in harry potter maybe with one of her children starting foxfire
I honestly feel like in book ten we're going to find out Sophie's dads identity (I for one think it is Elwin). I think that Elysian and Vespera had some sort of connection. Like maybe they were sisters. As we know Vespera is very ancient and is probably like ten millenias old, so maybe Elysian is too? I think that Elysian pretends to team up with Gisela and the neverseen to over throw the council and rule the lost cities, along with the other species that live there. I think that eventually Elysian will overthrow Gisela and trap her in the prison she was trapped in for hundereds of years as revenge of Vespera. I think Elysian holds more power than any elf in the lost cities and she might do something to keefe as another plan of revenge for vespera.
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My theory is Elsyian was Vesperas experiment that's why she was desperate to find the hidden place and she didn't want Gisela to find Elsyian because she didn't want Gisela to destroy or ruin what she was doing, before she got locked away and the councillors found out abt what vespera was doing and Instead of chatting they decided to pretend the world was at peace and locked Elysian in there because they thought she was a weapon and that's when Kenric found out or maybe he knew but he wanted to see the place for himself and he wanted to know if the empath felt the same way so he took Oralie there and then I feel like The blackswan and neverseen might team up bc Gisela killed their current leader and Gisela and Esylian might team up and the loser cities would go into war just a theory
I reckon sophies dad is a character we know. think about it, all this time in all these books shannon gives no nod to who her dad sctually is. how could shannon randomly put another new character in her seemingly last book, there would need to be character development and shannon usually takes multiple books just to develop one character, i think we know who her father is and some possible theories could be:
1. elwin
i dont particularly agree with this one, he just doesn't seem like the right fit to be her dad if that makes sense, like they have to share something in common, elwin is a flasher has curly brown hair and blue eyes, he doesn't share any common genes which is irrelevant since sophie is an experiment but just pointing it out is nesscecary
2. grady
i kind of see where this one is coming from. we know jolie was involved with the black swan so who knows if grady is actually her dad. i mean shannon is one for foreshadowing and a lot of people in the series remark that grady and sophie look similar, but that just might be oralies genes. anyway i just feel this one is more plausible than elwin.
i dont really know. maybe someone involved on the collective? also i love ur videos! keep up the good work! :)
I think teirgan is sophie's dad. In book she you talked about being abandoned by her Biological parents and it made teirgan have a really forlorn look on his face also like blondes... and teirgan is an important member of the black swan and he never had kids of his own so mabye it was kinda like oralie
The problem is the clue that Forkle dropped, “we went to extreme lengths to make sure the parents never met each other.”
Oralie met BOTH of them.
Thing is, ‘extreme lengths,’ could mean they- well ummm- killed the father.
But I don’t think they did that bc the Black Swan don’t really do that kind of thing.
HOWEVER! Sometimes Forkle controls- like A LOT- and the whole ‘we’ could have been a slip. We know the Neverseen has NO PROBLEM killing and torturing and experimenting and whatnot so I can slightly see the Neverseen killing the father after realizing.
And Gisela always knows more!
About the Black Swans plans.
About Sophie.
About their group.
Abilities.
Heck! Gisela even praises Sophie!
So WHAT IF and this is a VERY big WHAT IF- Forkle and Gisela we’re working together and Forkle slipped the parents and then Gisela decided to kill them (this leads to the Ethan Benedict Wright theory bc if he’s her dad then Gisela may have killed him, realizing that recruiting him meant recruiting the Moonlark’s father, which could lead to a possible betrayal. Eleanor was just caught in the crossfire) Gisela also tried to kill Oralie, but git stopped by her bodyguard. At the time no one realized that she was a villain therefore they didn’t arrest her on sight near Oralie’s castle. Gisela realized there was no way to kill her so instead began planning KENRIC’s death bc it would practically destabilize Oralie, which was as close to dead as Gisela could get her (we know they take like YEARS to plan everything as we heard in Legacy in Loamnore where Lady Gisela said, “This moment has been months in the making.” And Lady Gisela KNEW that Fintan would get arrested if someone saw him, his mind WOULD get broken, and from Forkle she would know that Sophie could HEAL MINDS. This made a timeline where in the mess of broken minds that he could kill Kenric, and if not Kenric then another Council which, rather than destabilizing Oralie, would destabilize the world for a moment. (This could be used either for preparing Keefe’s legacy or possibly killing Oralie idk)
But of course they got Kenric.
So Oralie basically had a mental breakdown which- if you think about it- caused a LOT of problems.
Alina got elected which actually took a big toll on the world since Alina became a Councilor so Magnate Leto became principal so there was now a new Beacon for the silver tower or the tower where the HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATION takes place, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
Not to mention KENRIC’s cache. Oralie was literally put under SUPERVISION. This took Oralie out of the picture, I bet Gisela hoped that this would last for longer than it did but oh well.
Plus Gisela always seems to know more about the Council and Forkle would know about the Douncil if he was researching EVERY POSSIBLE DONOR. So yeah.
I think Forkle and Gisela tag teamed and then backstabbed each other.
Which resulted in Ethan’s death.
And A MILLION PROBLEMS for Oralie.
Plus: They never met 😊
There are two other theories which are even more brutal, because they link to the Neverseen.
1. Gethen
This is a maybe for me. The only time they could have met was during the Collapse of Lumenaria, and Gethen has a lot of similarities to Sophie, so there is definitely an argument for it. The main problem is how he could possibly be the Black Swan's other donor if he was with the Neverseen.
2. Fintan
This is extremely far-fetched because he's definitely met Oralie, and the Black Swan were trying as hard as they could to make sure Pyrokinesis wasn't on the cards for Sophie.
Not my theories, just some that are out there.
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As we know Elysian probably has a lot of powers. Elysian could be male if she can mime men. I still don't know who it would be. Knowing Shannon, it's probably some we herd of, going to Troy's point that it could be Lady Fayina. I could be wrong but, it is still a possibility Elysain is male. I am also holding on to SoKeefe book 10.
My other theory is that Cyrah is Elysain. In chapter 64 of Nightfall when Sophie was getting ready to do do the healing Cyrah's voice was descibed as "melodic" just like Elysain's
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Della’s voice was described as melodic too in the first book
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She says that in Neverseen too
i think elysian is the equivalent of sophie, just a few hundred or so years before her
My theory is that elysian is a new character. but…for sophie’s dad i think it’s elwin? could be someone else but that js sounds right to me. Another theory is that it’s a human or another intelligent species and so sophie is kinda hybrid ig
I would absolutely love if it was Elwin 🤗🤗
Thats my idea as well. Heis kind and has never made negative coments about the black swan but has about the neever seen
This is not a theory buttt I have this fan fiction idea and I have to know if any of you would read it!!! (I hope it’s okay I share it here.) So jolie is the main character in my book and theirs way more details about her and brant but the details of how they separated or how the accident happened ended differently and Jolie is still alive. She lives kind of happily with her parents and is their for Sophie through all of what has happened in the last 9 books. But here’s the catch Keefe has a secret older brother who is a neverseen member. He’s kind of behind the scenes of the neverseen so the black swan doesn’t really know about him and keefe isn’t even aware that he has a brother let alone that he’s in the never seen either. But jolie does because she knows more about the neverseen then anyone thought. Keefes older brother just so happens to be similar in age to jolie and have abit of a liking toward each other. That’s basically the plot. If the romance makes you uncomfy there’s more I want to add to it like more backstory to every single neverseen character that isn’t written in the books but how I perceive their past lives instead. And if you don’t want to read it at all that’s fine but just think about it a keefe 2.0 lmao well anyways I would be honored if the kotlc fan base gave me some feed or any of their subscribers would give me some feedback as well!
When I read this I thought the Elysian they saw was a manifestation of the plains like in guardians of the galaxy how the bad guy is a planet
what if somone has to transfer the elysian power? so gisela gave it to keefe in hopes she could find a way to transfer it to her
Like a lot of people I think Sophie’s dad is Elwin. I really hope this isn’t the last book.
same
Ok but where did sophie get straight hair from, curly hair is recessive so if Elwin was her father sophie would have to have curly hair
I think there is no way Alden is part of the neverseen but what if he wants revenge on Sophie for making the vackers look bad? She found out alvar is evil and she technically broke aldens mind ( prentice story ) and everyone saw the trolls in everglen and she got biana and Fitz banished sooo ik it's really confusing but it's makes sense sort of?..
Here's mine: Elysium is connected to the humans that keefe once delivered letter to. Maybe Elysium fell in love with that man or something and she might have given him a clue about Stellarlune. Maybe that's why Gisela sent a letter to him, to ask for the clue. And when he didn't give her that, Gisela killed him and his daughter. Makes sense?
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So you know how alden is really suspicious? In exile it mentioned that because Alden's mind broke he may have forgotten some things but that Alden had a TON of secret projects that he never told ANYONE. That's when Alden stopped being wholesome for me. What if he was secretly comunicating with the neverseen to spy or something but when his mind broke but he forgot he was spying and just thought he was a neverseen member for real. The only thing I cant figure out is why they would trust Alden. Any thoughts?
Guys, i think the theory about the Sencens being able to sense Sophie's emotions better and all that is going in a weird direction cause if you guys remember, Stina could also feel her emotions without touch. So now im confused! 😭😭😭
This is not about the subject but I’M DYING BECAUSE I HAVE TO WAIT MONTHS FOR THE NEXT BOOK💀☠️
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what if lady gisela got keefe’s dna and gave it to the black swan, and basically made him Sophie’s biological father.
Edit: I have read every book and ship SOKEEFE, I just like chaos.
This is REALLY far fetched sooo
The problem is the clue that Forkle dropped, “we went to extreme lengths to make sure the parents never met each other.”
Oralie met BOTH of them.
Thing is, ‘extreme lengths,’ could mean they- well ummm- killed the father.
But I don’t think they did that bc the Black Swan don’t really do that kind of thing.
HOWEVER! Sometimes Forkle controls- like A LOT- and the whole ‘we’ could have been a slip. We know the Neverseen has NO PROBLEM killing and torturing and experimenting and whatnot so I can slightly see the Neverseen killing the father after realizing.
And Gisela always knows more!
About the Black Swans plans.
About Sophie.
About their group.
Abilities.
Heck! Gisela even praises Sophie!
So WHAT IF and this is a VERY big WHAT IF- Forkle and Gisela we’re working together and Forkle slipped the parents and then Gisela decided to kill them (this leads to the Ethan Benedict Wright theory bc if he’s her dad then Gisela may have killed him, realizing that recruiting him meant recruiting the Moonlark’s father, which could lead to a possible betrayal. Eleanor was just caught in the crossfire) Gisela also tried to kill Oralie, but git stopped by her bodyguard. At the time no one realized that she was a villain therefore they didn’t arrest her on sight near Oralie’s castle. Gisela realized there was no way to kill her so instead began planning KENRIC’s death bc it would practically destabilize Oralie, which was as close to dead as Gisela could get her (we know they take like YEARS to plan everything as we heard in Legacy in Loamnore where Lady Gisela said, “This moment has been months in the making.” And Lady Gisela KNEW that Fintan would get arrested if someone saw him, his mind WOULD get broken, and from Forkle she would know that Sophie could HEAL MINDS. This made a timeline where in the mess of broken minds that he could kill Kenric, and if not Kenric then another Council which, rather than destabilizing Oralie, would destabilize the world for a moment. (This could be used either for preparing Keefe’s legacy or possibly killing Oralie idk)
But of course they got Kenric.
So Oralie basically had a mental breakdown which- if you think about it- caused a LOT of problems.
Alina got elected which actually took a big toll on the world since Alina became a Councilor so Magnate Leto became principal so there was now a new Beacon for the silver tower or the tower where the HIGHEST LEVEL OF EDUCATION takes place, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR.
Not to mention KENRIC’s cache. Oralie was literally put under SUPERVISION. This took Oralie out of the picture, I bet Gisela hoped that this would last for longer than it did but oh well.
Plus Gisela always seems to know more about the Council and Forkle would know about the Douncil if he was researching EVERY POSSIBLE DONOR. So yeah.
I think Forkle and Gisela tag teamed and then backstabbed each other.
Which resulted in Ethan’s death.
And A MILLION PROBLEMS for Oralie.
Plus: They never met 😊
And never will.
That was long, but a few things:
U spelled it douncil at the end
Ethan was a human with a human name and stuff
When forkle said we went extreme blah blah blah stuff that could have meant that like they ever formally met or they never knew each other as dna donors. Maybe they had to be together during the whole thing and the memory was erased from them both.
Otherwise great theory and I think that elwin is the dad idk
I think in book 10, Oralie could die. I think Sophie will finally be able to forgive her a bit, not totally, how could she? But come to terms with it. Than Oralie dies either sacrificing herself for Sophie or someone Sophie cares for or just being killed like Mr forke or Vespera was.
I can’t wait for book 10! 😄 but if anything happens to my favourites like Keefe……..
I've had this theory that Sophie's eye colour is mixed eye colour, so maybe mix oralie's eye colour with every male kotlc character and see if you get brown
I think Blur is Jensi brother because every book he talks about how he is a Phaser another theory Blur could also be Sophie’s dad…this isn’t as strong as a theory cause the only evidence is Keefe saying her dad could be a Phaser so idk about that one
I honestly think that Blur is Councillor Darek, and he's been the Black Swan's informant.
I honestly feel like Vespera is still alive
But... She exploded, Sophie saw the blood and body parts
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