Damn, that sucks. It really is idiotic and disgusting that people would target and harass Vtubers like that, especially towards someone as kind and gentle as Lulu. She doesn't deserve that crap. In any case, it's a real shame to see her go, as I really liked her myself, but if it's for her own safety, I get it. I'll really miss her, though.
@@garouchieflol fr I assume it isn’t “baseless” but the base would be ridiculous like, “ I sent an superchat and you forgot to read it” or “You don’t notice anything I do”. It parallels the idol fantasism which slowly regards these streamers as people that are made purely to please others.
it usually stems from 1 problem: jealousy. Either die-hard fans who get rejected by lulu because she don't want to marry them or people who get jealous of her income.
@@bryant.3109 There's probably a lot of schizo or otherwise deranged people out there that fall into these type of actions a lot. Not saying all of the harassers are mentally ill, or even excusing it if they are, but it's hard to imagine a perfectly mentally stable person becoming so mired in the parasocial relationship that they think they have any justification for sending death threats because a vtuber wont read their superchat or something equally dumb.
The fact that she has to retire because of horrible death threats, and not for some happy reason like finding something better in life, etc. makes quite sad for her. But at least she will feel more secure and safe from now on. Knowing that puts me at ease too.
It’s really saddening to hear that she felt this way. Lulu said that streaming even helped her in other ways, making her more confident and boosting her self-esteem. Hopefully those who were doing such terrible things will be rightfully punished, and Lulu, with her newfound strengths will have an even brighter future.
@@SororitasSimp truly! Antis of any kind are boring and will never be happy no matter what the content creators they criticize do. I enjoyed her content until the end, that's all anyone can do
@@0danshi0 Doesn't mean that they should be allowed to harass these gals as they see fit. Who's gonna want try to to become a big-time v-tuber if they're at risk of becoming a target? Something needs to get put in place to protect these gals.
This is really just the sad nature of being a streamer, not really exclusive to vtubers. Like streamers getting swatted, people showing up to their house constantly, ordering a bunch of pizza at their house, throwing shit on their door/etc. People in this industry get constant harassment in person in some way for no real reason, its a shitty situation and really the only answer to it is them alerting the authorities when it happens but that usually never fully resolves the situation. Its sad seeing that it got so bad for Lulu to handle that she literally had to quit, and I would not be surprised if more vtubers end up leaving within the 2nd half of this year.
showing that they have power over someone even over the internet which is famous allowing "anonymity" makes them feel like a big person. Content creators are mainly targeted because theirs a chance that their 'achievements' are recorded and boosts their fragile ego.
Indeed. This is what it means to have the eyes of the whole world on you. The safety with anonymity we had in the early days of the internet is almost dried up and all the awful and nasty sides of humanity can come out of the woodwork to hurt people.
@@thighenthusiast3769 I wasn't equating the severity of either of them dude lol, just that they are both examples of the types of harassment that streamers go through. Just like the other guy said, harassment is harassment. Doesn't matter if it's "mildly annoying" or actually dangerous both constitute harassment.
Man this really sucks. As most of the people have said, Lulu doesn't deserve this kind of craps. Her gentle nature and soothing streams would be gone just because of those stupid kinds of people. I'd gladly sell my soul just to get back on those dumbasses.
Actually this situation was caused by Japanese Socialist problem--the pressure from all directions: from parents and surrounding when u grow up, to possibly lost job at mid age and etc. The real Japan was already messed up, so they also driven their civils into madness. This kind of situation not just happened on Lulu, it happened on those most popular vtubers too. Not just death threat, but also meeting, tailing them (yes this happened A LOT) because the host company didn't protect their realife information at all and those crazy people just keep doing this sh#t until vtuber graduate.
She was the first niji vtuber I watched, I'll really miss falling sleep while watching her just to wake up and see her still streaming lol. Her deadly stare, the whole eldritch goddess joke... Man... june really is a bad month. I hope everything goes well for her
I just wanna say the way this clip ends off is melancholy and seems more regretful. After this, Lulu continued to speak about how grateful she was to become a vtuber, kept thanking everyone, and said she didn't really regret anything. She did graduate with a smile, and I do think people should know that she doesn't have regrets. Otsululu~!
i want to say this. i am literally fuck. because i watch some of her clips and i was thinking why people sad and then i thought let's search her YT channel and here we are. i am feeling sad. anyway, dose she have a new channel or she literally vanish.
@@KujouLuca idk why she made a new channel though, (plus she was even using her own face)... ? didn't she said she stopped because all of the death threat? if she showed her face, doesn't it escalates death threats and stalkers?
Knowing this makes me think of how much time she had to keep shut about this while being completely insecure, Imagine how much these death threats hurt her psychologically to take her to the point of retirement. I hope that these death threats stop and she can resume with her personal life, I wish her luck.
This really sucks for everyone, these kinds of people don't just ruin these vtubers/streamers career but also their friends, colleagues, fans, and even their company/agency. I also hate the fact that so many people will be so quick to blame the companies on these kinds of stuff coz they can only do certain things to protect their talents. Everything else pretty much goes down to how the police takes care of the cases and if it's an isolated case. Which in this case, it's not, a group of people are doing this and they can't stop all of them specially if they are coming from another country. What happened to Lulu, Coco, Aloe, Mel are just a few of many other vtubers/streamers cases and I really hope something can be done to atleast prevent these kinds of things from happening.
@@雪の下-u3h this one is actually pretty common, there are many dangerous stalker in there after all, looking at how many cases and reports were taken within a year...
part of the responsibilities of a company is to provide safety to its workers, if she had to come to this it is because the company failed, that assuming the reason is true, they are under contract after all.
Especially in Japan. Police can't just act as bodyguards for everyone in even the strictest law enforcement nations ,but from what I have heard Japan is often considered especially lax when it comes to these sort of crimes that you can't necessarily act on because there is no immediate victim and immediate perpetrator to define in the exact moment
@@jacobblanton5179 What is the best possible way to deal with someone actually showing up at your doorstep in Japan in a scenario it happens? Have cameras at the ready showing someone forced their way into your house and at that point does Japanese law expect you to retreat or since they're in your living space do you have the right to pacify them by any means possible?
I always ask myself why would people do these kinds of things? Why would they threaten to kill such nice people. First they decide to make all these people suffer and now they take this lovely V-tuber. (Although I never watched her). How can people live with themselves? I'm actually sad (maybe crying) because of these people. Stop ruining our dreams and childhoods!
There's a lot of sick people in this world. There's probably other vtuber dealing with this but keep it quiet to not make the fans worry about the situation.
@@fadhilmahindra996 I might not have the right to say this due to me not really understanding V-tubers, but I feel like they should at least tell their viewers that they are getting these threats. I'm sure there are people who will help them. But I respect them for caring about how the fans will react.
@@MortalInkling Vtubers have a great influencer power and a big fanbase. The same way some antis have the will and skills to find the vtubers true identity, for sure some of the fans have the ability to do the same to the antis, if the vtuber talked openly about it its very possible that some fans could find the antis and instead of giving the information to the police or something, would have tried to solve things with their own hands and end up in tragedy, possibly ruining the antis lives, their own lives and causing problems for the vtuber that could be accused of instigator, so , unfortunatly its better that the vtuber dont bring these things to the fans until after the authorities have solved the problem.
@@felipeaugustobatista6444 Maybe, but it's not better if they just keep quiet about it. These services & companies need to start looking out for the steams & talents that they've got on. Otherwise, we'll keep seeing these kinds of graduations.
@@felipeaugustobatista6444 I think that the fanbase retaliating towards the folks that disrupts the peacefulness of the community either the streamer/content creator says that their are getting harassed or not, the only difference is how much it will take to commence an all out attack towards the harassers. I remember when a doxxer was doxxed by a whole community of doxxers that where fans of Matsuri, because he revealed sensitive information about her, and for revenge, they doxxed his whole family, and then started to cry about being doxxed. TL;DR harassers will always get them back tenfold whether the content creator says it or not.
And I'd imagine she has moved several times already on those breaks. If you got threats like that more than once, that means there are a bunch of them and unless you're in a fortress with automatic machine guns, you'd move away somewhere to a supposedly safer place. This is a terrible one. I'd expect her to go into super low profile for some time to deal with it. In the end, we could only hoped that things get sorted out with a happy ending, then maybe if she's fine with it, she would return to streaming one day.
damn, another sad thing is plenty of other vtubers are likely going through that problem as well. i can only hope that their situations don’t become as hard and as big of a problem as Lulu’s situation
This breaks my heart. She was such a lovely girl. I've only known her for a bout 6 months but it feel like losing a friend. I hope she stays happy and peaceful. OTSULULU!!
Before anyone tries to blame Anycolor (Nijisanji) they did all they could to help her but this issue fall under laws that don't help online threats or stalking, there isn't much to do other than advice and try to get the police to do something, this is something that happens all around the world sadly
yeah i feel bad for Ichikara/Niji that they’re getting unwarranted flack for “not helping enough” when they literally established a protection agency for their talents even before COVER Corp would do that for their idols. They’ve done what they could. If you want someone to blame, blame the patriarchal japanese law makers and the antis who perpetrated this in the first place.
Well usually in the entertainment industry, the first ones people always blame is management and the company and people scapegoat them to justify their anger that the fault was incompetence rather than other underlying issues. Yes things could've been better but in this case it isn't just the company but Japanese laws as well as other circumstances fall into factor on why Lulu was put in this unfortunate situation.
@Kei Nakamura Yes, which is why people like to project and scapegoat since management technically has the "responsibility" over their talents and in the entertainment industry companies are usually painted in a bad picture due to how exploitative they can be so it's the first thing people always do when jumping to conclusions is the incompetence of the management. I believe management have done everything they could but people just can't help to vent and we can't really change that mindset about other people.
Yeah i agree I think japanese goverment should change this law I mean if you get scam , ripped off , death threath , the police only give you advice unless you get hit phisically then the police will handle your case
Its nice to see people being rational in this comment section and not going after each other with their own bloody conspiracy theory. God knows how many of those have i seen in the aftermath of coco's graduation.
All these derranged semi humans need to be stopped asap. These talents need better security somehow against these kinds of people. All these retirements will only make them feel more powerful. I do understand why Lulu retired and I wish her all the best and lots of safety in her future.
@@tiramusi strict management, everything personal must be accessed and filterrd through managers and mods in order to protect the talent. Pros? Not 100% security but at least a bit protected. Cons? Being limited and may even stunt creativity. The internet really is a scary place.
@@tiramusi unfortunately any support is ultimately limited by how serious law enforcement takes harrassment cases… and unless you live in the Netherlands or something, it’s usually “not very seriously”.
@@tiramusi do you know that if you were to send a physical fan letter to nijisanji liver/talent you need to use 2 envelopes? The management will throw away the one with your name on it and discard those that doesn't included as "fan mail". It's just, these people send threat directly to the liver themselves. What kind of protection can they do really? It's not like they can lock them inside. Most niji liver do streaming as a hobby and has another day job to attend. Also from Mito story when she got doxxed, the management accompanied her to the police right away after she informed the doxxing. It's just, like what Lulu said, it's been too much and she doesn't want to burden the management for every single of her hate mail
The only tatic we have is "Report, Block, Ignore" and it works majority but we not all the time because things like this keeps happening. It just that somethings are just out of are control like how (im not sure how long ago it was) but Mel from Hololive kept getting harassed through big groups on twitter and got harassed through emails by someone she knew. Thank goodness it doesn't happen anymore..but what if it kept continuing! We can't really do anything about it!
The sad thing is, blocking and reporting is only effective for online-hate. It won't do anything for harassment that occurs in real-life, ie phone-calls, mail, and stalkers who harass others directly. In those instances, there's really nothing that us fans can do, especially the ones who live overseas. All I can say is, it may be for the best for well-known Vtubers, who don't plan to retire in the near future, to pick up and hold onto things like pepper-spray and stun-guns, because they very well may need them, some day.
God.. Why can't people just be nice to the other? Why do they always have to hurt each other?! Poor Lulu.. Gonna miss her "Cute" smile and Glare KonLulu And OtsuLulu
You think Lulu only? Other famous RUclipsrs like Zentreya as well. Welp that's the risk if people wanna be a youtuber, but if they're a kind and a good person like Mr. Beast, their fans will defend them.
@@norzedevil39129 i gave up on the human race long time ago i dont even care if people are dying it happens all the time and i think its better the more people die we dont deserve to live on this planet. When i see what stupid shit humans are doing it never surprise me. I think one way to save the planet would be to nuke the whole planet just like the meteor that hit earth million of years ago and just start anew.
@@dubstepforever99 but u gotta realize that there are good people and bad people. There are night time and daylight, there are fire and ice. That is the world what I've learned so far
How dare they do such a thing cause of them the collab of my dreams which is Lulu and Ina will never happen ( TT A TT ) Seriously tho I hope all of that is over for Lulu and she can just enjoy her games without worrires
Thats so fucked up actually. All the Vtubing stuff aside now I really hope this girl will manage all whats going on in her life right now that she can be happy again.
"If I can't feel happiness by being normal, why not be 'complimented' for being evil instead". Tbh this is what humans would think when they're desperate for attention. I would say they are human, but doesn't have a good brain to think properly.
Hearing about this just makes me wonder how widespread this problem is throughout the Vtuber community. I sincerely hope that there aren't more cases of Vtubers suffering in silence just to keep a cheerful image. Thanks for the memories Lulu. Relax and have fun, you deserve it.
"So the reason why I'm graduating..." Is it for health reasons? Is it true that you're getting married? "I've been getting death threats, and I've had to contact the police." **whiplash** W-Wait what?! Seriously that took me by surprise. I'm only a bit familiar with her, and her graduation announcement got me a bit curious. Never did I think she was getting harassed that much. Normal art student (...) jokes aside, she sounds like a nice person. May those people who harass people for no good reason always step on legos.
What concern me the most right now is, will the threats stop after she graduated? Cuz you know, in case she's in danger, we as her fan and subscriber won't know anything about it. Ending her career may calm things down a little, but tbh i don't think things will settle down. In any case let's hope lulu will be alright and the problem will finally over so she can has her peaceful life ^^
Wow this is really sad. I was hoping that she’s found a career path that she wanted to pursue more than streaming. This is why I hate it so much when I come across videos or discussions about past lives or alternate accounts. It might not matter to 99% of the viewers, but it only takes very few antis with irrational hatred to use these sensitive information to ruin somebody’s private life.
@@hexfizgamingch Good to see you here Hex-san. Watching those that pop up in algo are most definitely okay. Likewise, "if you knew, you knew." What isn't okay is becoming so obsessed that 'kiss-and-tell' would be the norm for the fans/audience. That scenario recreate problems what idol/talent companies in Japan face occassionally, but with foreign viewers joining in, privacy and security is crossed. We don't need a two-faced tech firm providing that for idols, I believe the community can straighten other viewers out, jp to overseas.
@@oujimandias6485 True, i definitly didnt spread those video around. But it does sometimes worries me that not everyone can be mature enough to kept it to them self and literally trying to stalk said personality or do something bad with that information
I didn't find out about Lulu until today sadly but I hope she is able to live a peaceful and happy life. I might've not known about her but what I do know is that no one should go through situations like this and be forced or have it be a reason to stop doing something they love. (Just in case what I mean is that people shouldn't do horrible things like send death threats so it doesnt become a reason why someone has to stop doing what they love)
A delinquent once said "don't treat them like people ; treat them like a rabid monster that must be slain at all costs." Stop their act and immediately act against them.
Maybe Japan need to setup some kind of public figure protection law. After proving you are public figure of some sort, and existence of some potential threats to your safety, you are entitled to police protection or something.
The problem is the police can't do shit because their privacy and internet harassment laws are shit. It only intervenes when there's physical harm, otherwise it won't do anything for doxxing, blackmail, threats, etc. Just remember the case where an idol was murdered by a man who tracked her location by identifying her neighborhood from the reflection on her eyeball in a photo, and realize how a law that only protects you after physical harm is worthless when these anti lowlives are out for murder.
I don't understand. How can a kind, soft and gentle hearted person trigger those people so much that they're sending death threats to her. I swear, with whats happened with Lulu and Coco, I'm starting to question if people nowadays are even sane and normal
@@zatoby6705 Now imagine if those people can actually think rationally. All the vtubers that have retired would still be here today, entertaining us and make our day
I guess I can now understand why they only limit their social media activity to just Twitter and email. If they were to open more, I can't imagine the volume of shit they have to see and take on a daily basis. Although I was only recently introduced to Lulu, it is never a happy thing when one graduates. Let alone for such a reason. I wish her only the very best in her next step in life.
May her godly enormous good karma shine down eldrich bad karma into those who wronged her. The world is never getting another vtuber as gentle as her ❤️ otsululu.
Dang that really sucks... I know of her but I never watched her streams...but she seems like a really nice person that doesn't deserve those stupid death threats! It ticks me off because this isn't the first innocent vtuber to hurt by antis! Hopefully in the future we as a community can do more to stop antis! I wish her the best after graduating..
This is heartbreaking. I really had to fight back tears. I watched her graduation stream but being a beginner in Japanese, I could only pick up small fragments of what she said. I had no idea things were this bad. At least we know Coco will live on in another life. The fact that this really may be the last time we ever see Lulu... and because of such a horrible reason... Although she wasn't one of my favorites I still thought she was adorable and I love all of them. All of Hololive and Nijisanji, all indie Vtubers... they all have something special to give and this is painful to see. 😔
I wish she graduated because she found something to pursue, but this clearly not the case here. she was forced by situation she was in. lulu is one of the few niji streamers that caught my attention and it's totally worth it. i wish her happines going forward from here on out and finally, otsululu.
I only found out she was retiring when she was streaming this. It came as a big shock & I tried really hard not to cry at work, although someone realised how red my eyes were. I can't believe anyone would send death threats to someone as kind & sweet & innocent as Lulu, but some people are warped in the head. I'm really going to miss Lulu, she was the only member of Nijisanji JP I watched.
And it's not just one?? No Lulu, it's ok to take a lot of breaks, we won't be worried anymore 😭 But Lulu is always doing her best to entertain us, why would you do something horrible like that to her? I still can't believe we won't be able to see Lulu anymore, I hope she'll be happier now I wish all the best for her and her future endeavors. I hope we can meet her again someday
I come back to this video every so often and I can't help but cry each time. Lulu deserved so much better. She was the reason I got into the Vtubing community myself and I'm so thankful for her.
Its just depressing that despite all of the good we get to see, somehow some people are so resentful that they would stoop down to doing this... What is there to even hate so much about Lulu of all people?? She's a truly gentle soul who has never done anything to deserve this much hatred...
She is one of the kindest and sweetest vtubers out there. How can these bastards ruin such a beautiful thing. I hope she will find happiness after her graduation and look past these people.
That's a lot of things that Lulu was handling! Thanks for the translation. I hope that her lifestyle will become what she wants. I hope her feeling of security returns. I hope that Lulu's family and herself will overcome those issues.
She as literally too pure for this cesspool of a platform. Even if I don't get to watch her wonderful content, I feel good when she's able to get away from the negativity and live her life happily.
Holy shit I honestly didnt even know that she retired. Im not the biggest VTuber fan but I did make sure to tune into her streams every once and awhile. She will be missed
I forgot that this is causally happening in japan like on manga authors anime producers and even on idols but it still very sad to hear happen to people you for a long time
I want to be a bit more cheerful about her graduation, but after hearing this, it's... man. It puts in a brand new light all that time in-between streams in the last few months. Of course the actual trash good-for-nothing homunculus of a person sending death treats is the ome at fault, but i also can't help but wish Nijisanji tried harder to deal with the issue. What's done is done. I hope I get to hear Lulu's cheerful voice again in the future.
You were dealing with so much all the while giving us your sweet smile that calmed us down. I'm so sorry for what has happened, all I want to say is that, may you find happiness in what you are going to do next and know that you have made so many of us so so so happy.
Realistically speaking, how can we support this situation? The only thing that comes to my head is the Superchats and donations. So they can fund their actions like moving to a new house, hiring security when doing stuff, But when the threat is constant, how do you realistically deal with this situation? This problem of harassment, raiding, and stalking seems really difficult. Maybe a new well-written law about Anti-harassment and stalking would discourage the act.
There's really not much anyone can do under internet anonymity. Unless people want to do away with that, too. (Which is the only thing protecting VTubers in the first place.)
See this is the exact kind of graduation I don't want. Coco's ended on a good note. She left under good terms and of her own free will not because she felt forced to. If I know they left the company of their own free will and it was a decision made by them alone I can be satisfied and accept it and move on. Knowing that we lost Lulu not because she wanted to quit but because she felt she had to is anger-inducing as this didn't have to happen. People can be the worst sometimes. As sweet as Lulu is and she still gets harassed like this.
Man... this seriously sucks. Vtuber graduations are always sad sure, but there is this entire extra dimension of pain and sadness when it happens due to things out of their control like health issues or personal safety concerns. It really makes me thankful that people like Coco and (presumably) Gibara have been able to go out on their own terms.
this feels a lot different from Coco's graduation. while hers was cheerful and emotive in a nostalgic and very loving way, both thanks to her fellow talents and the community, it was near impossible to shake the feeling that lulu's would not be the same. we weren't celebrating the next step in our favorite vtuber's journey, instead we were trying (and failing) to reduce the impact and the pain from losing someone, someone who was forced to go because of external pressures no person (specially someone as kind as her) should have to live with. it was too much for her, and for that i can accept that she's gone, because that is the only way for her to be free from the hell she had to go through because of the antis and other terrible people who didnt want to stop harming others for no valid reason. coco must have had her personal reasons to graduate, but lulu's situation seems to be more a cruel toxicity that was eating away at her mental health and sense of safety and comfort. that is why i said goodbye to coco with a smile, while i cant even say the word to lulu without tears of agony flowing down my face.
Everyone that's been troubling streamers enough that they end up leaving like this needs to get got. Sick of losing such talented people. It really hurts to one day be enjoying spending time with them doing what they love and then the next you hear they are "graduating," eventually having their wiki entry say that (Insert name) "was" a Virtual RUclipsr instead of "is."
Imagine sending threats to this precious thing. I can't even think up what for, she's never been involved in any drama. What an unfair world we live in. Thank you for these wonderful two years Lulu and I wish you only the best in the future, wherever it might take you!
It really pisses me off that this was the main reason she retired. These... "creatures" who I shall not even refer to them as human, are psychopaths, sick in the head. There's just no reason, ABSOLUTELY no reason for them to do this and yet here we are. Some people just want to watch the world burn. I really hope our dear Lulu is safe now, she was my favorite Nijisanji and to see her go is extremely bittersweet.
Well that’s shitty, I hoped the reason was that she found something else she wanted to do. I don’t understand why some people go out of their way to ruin other’s lives. Hopefully she’ll find happiness and success in the future and can separate herself from the online trolls
Gotta love insane people making death threats to someone like Lulu. It's like they actually believe she's an eldritch being that haunts their dreams every night.
Yea I really can't understand the thought process behind something like this To harass her... She is a very very sweet girl she was always cheerful always giving her best she even went along with those joke that she was a cosmic being of some sort lol I can't think of a good reason why would someone would want to hurt such a lovely person....
People who send death threats to kind and good people should receive a death sentence. People just wouldn't learn unless they're given a severe repercussion for their terrible actions. It's sad that good people like Lulu is always targeted in this world. I can only hope she's fine and healthy now.
One of the few things that I hate about Vtuber is that in the end, a lot of them are Idols, and one can know how bad the life of a japanese Idol can be.
One thing's for sure though, you can't make any significant changes without making significant decisions in order to live a happy and prosperous life, and getting rid of your insecurities will be a surefire way of making progress towards real change. Its sad to accept, but its more happy and relieving to hear that Lulu is taking care of herself in the real world. May you have a safe and happy graduation Lulu 🤗❤
Understandable. I view that this decision is the best for her. Imagine going through that ourselves, we'd be quitting too. Still very sad though. Damn you antis!!!
Thank you for the translation. I didn’t watch much of Lulu (or Nijisanji, for that matter) but I did know about her and the impact she had in the VTuber community. Sucks that something so stupid caused this to happen, and those idiots who send those threats are below the scum of the Earth. Regardless, if this is the path she wants to take to be more personally happy, then more power to her. I hope she finds that happiness and further success wherever she goes.
I didn't include it in the video but. Her archives will remain for 6 months. After that some it might disappear due to stuff that may happen down the line. But she wishes for her archives to remain.
>archive will remain for six months >she did discuss the possibility of leaving the account open beyond six months, but is hesitant because of reasons that might pop up down the line >i'd like to preserve the archive as much as i can, but it's not guaranteed >twitter account will remain. (copy paste from original stream)
I never had a chance to watch miss Lulu but I sincerely wish her a great future ahead. May she find the peace she deserves. . For lulu fans: give her a hug and say "thank you for the memories."
Damn, that sucks. It really is idiotic and disgusting that people would target and harass Vtubers like that, especially towards someone as kind and gentle as Lulu. She doesn't deserve that crap. In any case, it's a real shame to see her go, as I really liked her myself, but if it's for her own safety, I get it. I'll really miss her, though.
Sometimes they're just being jealous to her or they have a mental problem , or whatever.
not only vtuber for sure there is so many cases like this to many many content creators
But the only thing that i can say that she gonna have a wonderful new life after retiring and have a happy life
all for the best for her
Is not only vtubers also irl streamers are getting harassed like this. People like that really have issues man.
@@garouchieflol fr
I assume it isn’t “baseless” but the base would be ridiculous like, “ I sent an superchat and you forgot to read it” or “You don’t notice anything I do”.
It parallels the idol fantasism which slowly regards these streamers as people that are made purely to please others.
The amount of deranged lunatics that would go out of their way to harass people for no reason is just sad… smh
Its not no reason. They have some motive, even if it is total bs.
@@PX3U Well, "total bs" is what people actually mean when they say "no reason." It's just an expression, yeah?
They always have some selfish reason, which makes it worse.
it usually stems from 1 problem: jealousy. Either die-hard fans who get rejected by lulu because she don't want to marry them or people who get jealous of her income.
@@bryant.3109 There's probably a lot of schizo or otherwise deranged people out there that fall into these type of actions a lot. Not saying all of the harassers are mentally ill, or even excusing it if they are, but it's hard to imagine a perfectly mentally stable person becoming so mired in the parasocial relationship that they think they have any justification for sending death threats because a vtuber wont read their superchat or something equally dumb.
The fact that she has to retire because of horrible death threats, and not for some happy reason like finding something better in life, etc. makes quite sad for her. But at least she will feel more secure and safe from now on. Knowing that puts me at ease too.
It’s really saddening to hear that she felt this way. Lulu said that streaming even helped her in other ways, making her more confident and boosting her self-esteem. Hopefully those who were doing such terrible things will be rightfully punished, and Lulu, with her newfound strengths will have an even brighter future.
Karma is one hell of a thing friend
If you think about it
These Antis probably don't have anything better in life to do anyways
So they're pretty much doomed from the start
Karma
@@SororitasSimp truly! Antis of any kind are boring and will never be happy no matter what the content creators they criticize do. I enjoyed her content until the end, that's all anyone can do
@@0danshi0 Doesn't mean that they should be allowed to harass these gals as they see fit. Who's gonna want try to to become a big-time v-tuber if they're at risk of becoming a target? Something needs to get put in place to protect these gals.
@@MrRAGE-md5rj I agree! I don't think anyone should be harassed for just existing online and I never said I did
This is really just the sad nature of being a streamer, not really exclusive to vtubers. Like streamers getting swatted, people showing up to their house constantly, ordering a bunch of pizza at their house, throwing shit on their door/etc. People in this industry get constant harassment in person in some way for no real reason, its a shitty situation and really the only answer to it is them alerting the authorities when it happens but that usually never fully resolves the situation.
Its sad seeing that it got so bad for Lulu to handle that she literally had to quit, and I would not be surprised if more vtubers end up leaving within the 2nd half of this year.
showing that they have power over someone even over the internet which is famous allowing "anonymity" makes them feel like a big person. Content creators are mainly targeted because theirs a chance that their 'achievements' are recorded and boosts their fragile ego.
You shouldn't put "ordering a bunch of pizza" with "swatting". One is mildly annoying, the other one can get you killed.
@@thighenthusiast3769 Harassment is still harassment. Doesn’t matter if one is more severe than the other, it isn’t acceptable.
Indeed. This is what it means to have the eyes of the whole world on you. The safety with anonymity we had in the early days of the internet is almost dried up and all the awful and nasty sides of humanity can come out of the woodwork to hurt people.
@@thighenthusiast3769 I wasn't equating the severity of either of them dude lol, just that they are both examples of the types of harassment that streamers go through. Just like the other guy said, harassment is harassment. Doesn't matter if it's "mildly annoying" or actually dangerous both constitute harassment.
Man this really sucks. As most of the people have said, Lulu doesn't deserve this kind of craps. Her gentle nature and soothing streams would be gone just because of those stupid kinds of people. I'd gladly sell my soul just to get back on those dumbasses.
Actually this situation was caused by Japanese Socialist problem--the pressure from all directions: from parents and surrounding when u grow up, to possibly lost job at mid age and etc. The real Japan was already messed up, so they also driven their civils into madness. This kind of situation not just happened on Lulu, it happened on those most popular vtubers too. Not just death threat, but also meeting, tailing them (yes this happened A LOT) because the host company didn't protect their realife information at all and those crazy people just keep doing this sh#t until vtuber graduate.
Don't say that kind of thing (the last sentence). Your soul is worth more than hopeless people.
Yeah Allen, Eis is right. The least you could do is slowly curse them on a daily basis *evil Yzma cat laugh*
@@NIR_0222 Now that. That I approve.
man...that sucks... and we didn't know how serious it was till now... shit. Hope she will be better after all this.
She was the first niji vtuber I watched, I'll really miss falling sleep while watching her just to wake up and see her still streaming lol. Her deadly stare, the whole eldritch goddess joke...
Man... june really is a bad month.
I hope everything goes well for her
same bro, same
I just wanna say the way this clip ends off is melancholy and seems more regretful. After this, Lulu continued to speak about how grateful she was to become a vtuber, kept thanking everyone, and said she didn't really regret anything.
She did graduate with a smile, and I do think people should know that she doesn't have regrets. Otsululu~!
i want to say this. i am literally fuck. because i watch some of her clips and i was thinking why people sad and then i thought let's search her YT channel and here we are. i am feeling sad. anyway, dose she have a new channel or she literally vanish.
@@NikonWB misumi no harawata
@@KujouLuca idk why she made a new channel though, (plus she was even using her own face)... ?
didn't she said she stopped because all of the death threat? if she showed her face, doesn't it escalates death threats and stalkers?
Every Antis be gangsta till fans turned into hitmans.
Gladly, overseas sexy viewers retain sexiness (and decency despite copious amounts of degenelacy). Hope jp anikis do the same.
call in agent 47
So world war 3 is not about a resource or a country, its about antifan and fan
Call in John Wick
@@jengofett1236 your pfp tells that you also felt lots of pain peko
Bro i just got reminded of her today, i truly miss her bro she was there among all OG Vtubers when it was booming.
Knowing this makes me think of how much time she had to keep shut about this while being completely insecure, Imagine how much these death threats hurt her psychologically to take her to the point of retirement.
I hope that these death threats stop and she can resume with her personal life, I wish her luck.
Even before she becoming Vtuber she had stalkers, probably years
@@reizero246 I know, she was like an idol before being a Vtuber
This really sucks for everyone, these kinds of people don't just ruin these vtubers/streamers career but also their friends, colleagues, fans, and even their company/agency. I also hate the fact that so many people will be so quick to blame the companies on these kinds of stuff coz they can only do certain things to protect their talents. Everything else pretty much goes down to how the police takes care of the cases and if it's an isolated case. Which in this case, it's not, a group of people are doing this and they can't stop all of them specially if they are coming from another country. What happened to Lulu, Coco, Aloe, Mel are just a few of many other vtubers/streamers cases and I really hope something can be done to atleast prevent these kinds of things from happening.
@@CartoonHangout that IS the case, except these people send it directly to her address, not to Nijisanji.
@@雪の下-u3h this one is actually pretty common, there are many dangerous stalker in there after all, looking at how many cases and reports were taken within a year...
@@kaitoryujin8266 yeah, i know. these people know enough about the streamer, including their address, which leads to disgusting shit like this.
@@雪の下-u3h one of most reason why doxxing is dangerous...
part of the responsibilities of a company is to provide safety to its workers, if she had to come to this it is because the company failed, that assuming the reason is true, they are under contract after all.
death threats to the level of contacting police authority... that is serious
Especially in Japan. Police can't just act as bodyguards for everyone in even the strictest law enforcement nations ,but from what I have heard Japan is often considered especially lax when it comes to these sort of crimes that you can't necessarily act on because there is no immediate victim and immediate perpetrator to define in the exact moment
Death threats should always be taken seriously. You never know what is going on inside some people's heads
@@jacobblanton5179 What is the best possible way to deal with someone actually showing up at your doorstep in Japan in a scenario it happens? Have cameras at the ready showing someone forced their way into your house and at that point does Japanese law expect you to retreat or since they're in your living space do you have the right to pacify them by any means possible?
I always ask myself why would people do these kinds of things? Why would they threaten to kill such nice people. First they decide to make all these people suffer and now they take this lovely V-tuber. (Although I never watched her). How can people live with themselves? I'm actually sad (maybe crying) because of these people. Stop ruining our dreams and childhoods!
There's a lot of sick people in this world. There's probably other vtuber dealing with this but keep it quiet to not make the fans worry about the situation.
@@fadhilmahindra996 I might not have the right to say this due to me not really understanding V-tubers, but I feel like they should at least tell their viewers that they are getting these threats. I'm sure there are people who will help them. But I respect them for caring about how the fans will react.
@@MortalInkling Vtubers have a great influencer power and a big fanbase. The same way some antis have the will and skills to find the vtubers true identity, for sure some of the fans have the ability to do the same to the antis, if the vtuber talked openly about it its very possible that some fans could find the antis and instead of giving the information to the police or something, would have tried to solve things with their own hands and end up in tragedy, possibly ruining the antis lives, their own lives and causing problems for the vtuber that could be accused of instigator, so , unfortunatly its better that the vtuber dont bring these things to the fans until after the authorities have solved the problem.
@@felipeaugustobatista6444 Maybe, but it's not better if they just keep quiet about it. These services & companies need to start looking out for the steams & talents that they've got on. Otherwise, we'll keep seeing these kinds of graduations.
@@felipeaugustobatista6444 I think that the fanbase retaliating towards the folks that disrupts the peacefulness of the community either the streamer/content creator says that their are getting harassed or not, the only difference is how much it will take to commence an all out attack towards the harassers. I remember when a doxxer was doxxed by a whole community of doxxers that where fans of Matsuri, because he revealed sensitive information about her, and for revenge, they doxxed his whole family, and then started to cry about being doxxed.
TL;DR harassers will always get them back tenfold whether the content creator says it or not.
And I'd imagine she has moved several times already on those breaks. If you got threats like that more than once, that means there are a bunch of them and unless you're in a fortress with automatic machine guns, you'd move away somewhere to a supposedly safer place.
This is a terrible one. I'd expect her to go into super low profile for some time to deal with it. In the end, we could only hoped that things get sorted out with a happy ending, then maybe if she's fine with it, she would return to streaming one day.
Sometimes a fortress with machine guns is all you need. Let them walk into the line of fire and erase themselves
seem like she reported to the police, and while they are investiatiing the case, she must hiatus
Moving house in Japan is a nightmare as well who knows what kind of effect that had on her
@@jsfyxzuf117 Home alone style.
damn, another sad thing is plenty of other vtubers are likely going through that problem as well. i can only hope that their situations don’t become as hard and as big of a problem as Lulu’s situation
This breaks my heart. She was such a lovely girl. I've only known her for a bout 6 months but it feel like losing a friend. I hope she stays happy and peaceful. OTSULULU!!
Before anyone tries to blame Anycolor (Nijisanji) they did all they could to help her but this issue fall under laws that don't help online threats or stalking, there isn't much to do other than advice and try to get the police to do something, this is something that happens all around the world sadly
yeah i feel bad for Ichikara/Niji that they’re getting unwarranted flack for “not helping enough” when they literally established a protection agency for their talents even before COVER Corp would do that for their idols.
They’ve done what they could. If you want someone to blame, blame the patriarchal japanese law makers and the antis who perpetrated this in the first place.
Well usually in the entertainment industry, the first ones people always blame is management and the company and people scapegoat them to justify their anger that the fault was incompetence rather than other underlying issues. Yes things could've been better but in this case it isn't just the company but Japanese laws as well as other circumstances fall into factor on why Lulu was put in this unfortunate situation.
@Kei Nakamura Yes, which is why people like to project and scapegoat since management technically has the "responsibility" over their talents and in the entertainment industry companies are usually painted in a bad picture due to how exploitative they can be so it's the first thing people always do when jumping to conclusions is the incompetence of the management. I believe management have done everything they could but people just can't help to vent and we can't really change that mindset about other people.
Yeah i agree
I think japanese goverment should change this law
I mean if you get scam , ripped off , death threath , the police only give you advice unless you get hit phisically then the police will handle your case
Its nice to see people being rational in this comment section and not going after each other with their own bloody conspiracy theory. God knows how many of those have i seen in the aftermath of coco's graduation.
All these derranged semi humans need to be stopped asap. These talents need better security somehow against these kinds of people. All these retirements will only make them feel more powerful. I do understand why Lulu retired and I wish her all the best and lots of safety in her future.
Having anything that lets random people get in contact with you is bad (like having a private email or open dms). All that should go over management.
@@tiramusi strict management, everything personal must be accessed and filterrd through managers and mods in order to protect the talent. Pros? Not 100% security but at least a bit protected. Cons? Being limited and may even stunt creativity. The internet really is a scary place.
@@tiramusi unfortunately any support is ultimately limited by how serious law enforcement takes harrassment cases… and unless you live in the Netherlands or something, it’s usually “not very seriously”.
@@tiramusi do you know that if you were to send a physical fan letter to nijisanji liver/talent you need to use 2 envelopes? The management will throw away the one with your name on it and discard those that doesn't included as "fan mail". It's just, these people send threat directly to the liver themselves. What kind of protection can they do really? It's not like they can lock them inside. Most niji liver do streaming as a hobby and has another day job to attend. Also from Mito story when she got doxxed, the management accompanied her to the police right away after she informed the doxxing. It's just, like what Lulu said, it's been too much and she doesn't want to burden the management for every single of her hate mail
Semi humans lmao
Holy shit this whole antis thing needs to be taken care of
Yeah this is becoming out of control
The only tatic we have is "Report, Block, Ignore" and it works majority but we not all the time because things like this keeps happening. It just that somethings are just out of are control like how (im not sure how long ago it was) but Mel from Hololive kept getting harassed through big groups on twitter and got harassed through emails by someone she knew. Thank goodness it doesn't happen anymore..but what if it kept continuing! We can't really do anything about it!
@@hoshiyomi8031 yeah but when they attack in direct ways we can't help them. I wish that there is a way to protec them.
The sad thing is, blocking and reporting is only effective for online-hate. It won't do anything for harassment that occurs in real-life, ie phone-calls, mail, and stalkers who harass others directly. In those instances, there's really nothing that us fans can do, especially the ones who live overseas. All I can say is, it may be for the best for well-known Vtubers, who don't plan to retire in the near future, to pick up and hold onto things like pepper-spray and stun-guns, because they very well may need them, some day.
@@zehellyerfeg1502 True. It really sucks.
Also my bad..it wasn't stocking it was harassment. I had to re read the translation
God.. Why can't people just be nice to the other? Why do they always have to hurt each other?!
Poor Lulu..
Gonna miss her "Cute" smile and Glare
KonLulu
And
OtsuLulu
You think Lulu only? Other famous RUclipsrs like Zentreya as well. Welp that's the risk if people wanna be a youtuber, but if they're a kind and a good person like Mr. Beast, their fans will defend them.
@@norzedevil39129 i gave up on the human race long time ago i dont even care if people are dying it happens all the time and i think its better the more people die we dont deserve to live on this planet. When i see what stupid shit humans are doing it never surprise me. I think one way to save the planet would be to nuke the whole planet just like the meteor that hit earth million of years ago and just start anew.
@@norzedevil39129 if i was sitting on the launch codes of the nuclear weapon i would have launched them immediatly.
@@dubstepforever99 You do forget that all these vtubers and streamers are human too right.
@@dubstepforever99 but u gotta realize that there are good people and bad people. There are night time and daylight, there are fire and ice. That is the world what I've learned so far
Its awful that she had THAT happening to her.
Ill always remember that random Bloodborne stream in my recomendations that introduced me to her
Time to cast divine punishment upon the heretics
May that be done swiftly...
How dare they do such a thing cause of them the collab of my dreams which is Lulu and Ina will never happen ( TT A TT )
Seriously tho I hope all of that is over for Lulu and she can just enjoy her games without worrires
*PH'NGLUI MGLW'NAFH CTHULHU R'LYEH WGAH'NAGL FHTAGN*
Thats so fucked up actually. All the Vtubing stuff aside now I really hope this girl will manage all whats going on in her life right now that she can be happy again.
I can't even imagine why you would harass someone who's only brought happiness to others. These people are not human.
"If i cant be happy, you cant be happy too"
- Anti/Toxic mentality , probably
"If I can't feel happiness by being normal, why not be 'complimented' for being evil instead". Tbh this is what humans would think when they're desperate for attention. I would say they are human, but doesn't have a good brain to think properly.
Hearing about this just makes me wonder how widespread this problem is throughout the Vtuber community.
I sincerely hope that there aren't more cases of Vtubers suffering in silence just to keep a cheerful image. Thanks for the memories Lulu. Relax and have fun, you deserve it.
It's not as widespread as it used to be, but still common
"So the reason why I'm graduating..."
Is it for health reasons? Is it true that you're getting married?
"I've been getting death threats, and I've had to contact the police."
**whiplash** W-Wait what?!
Seriously that took me by surprise. I'm only a bit familiar with her, and her graduation announcement got me a bit curious. Never did I think she was getting harassed that much. Normal art student (...) jokes aside, she sounds like a nice person. May those people who harass people for no good reason always step on legos.
It happens a lot in Japan especially with Idols.
What concern me the most right now is, will the threats stop after she graduated? Cuz you know, in case she's in danger, we as her fan and subscriber won't know anything about it. Ending her career may calm things down a little, but tbh i don't think things will settle down.
In any case let's hope lulu will be alright and the problem will finally over so she can has her peaceful life ^^
Yes, will help her, but probably those haters will go to harass other people.
For everyone who missed her voice find this channel : みすみのはらわた
Wow this is really sad. I was hoping that she’s found a career path that she wanted to pursue more than streaming.
This is why I hate it so much when I come across videos or discussions about past lives or alternate accounts. It might not matter to 99% of the viewers, but it only takes very few antis with irrational hatred to use these sensitive information to ruin somebody’s private life.
Agree .
You're not alone, I despise those videos about their irl stuffs and the people who upload those. It's just pathetic to dig someone's private life.
I kinda felt guilty for warching those, but it kinda pop out everywhere.
@@hexfizgamingch Good to see you here Hex-san. Watching those that pop up in algo are most definitely okay. Likewise, "if you knew, you knew." What isn't okay is becoming so obsessed that 'kiss-and-tell' would be the norm for the fans/audience. That scenario recreate problems what idol/talent companies in Japan face occassionally, but with foreign viewers joining in, privacy and security is crossed. We don't need a two-faced tech firm providing that for idols, I believe the community can straighten other viewers out, jp to overseas.
@@oujimandias6485 True, i definitly didnt spread those video around. But it does sometimes worries me that not everyone can be mature enough to kept it to them self and literally trying to stalk said personality or do something bad with that information
I didn't find out about Lulu until today sadly but I hope she is able to live a peaceful and happy life.
I might've not known about her but what I do know is that no one should go through situations like this and be forced or have it be a reason to stop doing something they love.
(Just in case what I mean is that people shouldn't do horrible things like send death threats so it doesnt become a reason why someone has to stop doing what they love)
I really hate people sometimes. Those who go out of their way to do harmful things to others and get a kick out of it absolutely disgust me.
Slayer has spoken
@@i5otope It is time for the rapture
@@i5otope time to rip and tear until it's done!
A delinquent once said "don't treat them like people ; treat them like a rabid monster that must be slain at all costs."
Stop their act and immediately act against them.
Yes people so bs bs bs
Very unfortunate that she had to go through shit like this. Hoping she stays safe
She will be come back soon from retirement for health and she switch to another vtuber
Maybe Japan need to setup some kind of public figure protection law. After proving you are public figure of some sort, and existence of some potential threats to your safety, you are entitled to police protection or something.
The problem is the police can't do shit because their privacy and internet harassment laws are shit. It only intervenes when there's physical harm, otherwise it won't do anything for doxxing, blackmail, threats, etc. Just remember the case where an idol was murdered by a man who tracked her location by identifying her neighborhood from the reflection on her eyeball in a photo, and realize how a law that only protects you after physical harm is worthless when these anti lowlives are out for murder.
@@MunchMeisterVT murdered? which case was it?
I hate humans sometimes. Why are people like this? It hurts my heart man. I hope she finds peace of mind after retiring.
Welp, there goes my faith in humanity.
It becomes less and less the older you get, anyway. Trust me. Or actually don't. Don't trust anyone.
But hey... I just want her to be safe... I don't want anything bad to happen to these Vtubers.
I don't understand. How can a kind, soft and gentle hearted person trigger those people so much that they're sending death threats to her. I swear, with whats happened with Lulu and Coco, I'm starting to question if people nowadays are even sane and normal
Its always those small few who are insane that ruin it for the rest of us... :(
I though it stalker problem rather than death threat lol
Jealous people Exist, and it can turn people into evil
@@zatoby6705 Now imagine if those people can actually think rationally. All the vtubers that have retired would still be here today, entertaining us and make our day
@ItsZero020 Can you elaborate more on what kind of past exactly? If it's something horrible, Is it authentic?
I guess I can now understand why they only limit their social media activity to just Twitter and email. If they were to open more, I can't imagine the volume of shit they have to see and take on a daily basis. Although I was only recently introduced to Lulu, it is never a happy thing when one graduates. Let alone for such a reason. I wish her only the very best in her next step in life.
May her godly enormous good karma shine down eldrich bad karma into those who wronged her.
The world is never getting another vtuber as gentle as her ❤️ otsululu.
Dang that really sucks...
I know of her but I never watched her streams...but she seems like a really nice person that doesn't deserve those stupid death threats!
It ticks me off because this isn't the first innocent vtuber to hurt by antis! Hopefully in the future we as a community can do more to stop antis!
I wish her the best after graduating..
This is heartbreaking. I really had to fight back tears. I watched her graduation stream but being a beginner in Japanese, I could only pick up small fragments of what she said. I had no idea things were this bad. At least we know Coco will live on in another life. The fact that this really may be the last time we ever see Lulu... and because of such a horrible reason... Although she wasn't one of my favorites I still thought she was adorable and I love all of them. All of Hololive and Nijisanji, all indie Vtubers... they all have something special to give and this is painful to see. 😔
I wish she graduated because she found something to pursue, but this clearly not the case here.
she was forced by situation she was in.
lulu is one of the few niji streamers that caught my attention and it's totally worth it.
i wish her happines going forward from here on out and finally, otsululu.
I only found out she was retiring when she was streaming this. It came as a big shock & I tried really hard not to cry at work, although someone realised how red my eyes were. I can't believe anyone would send death threats to someone as kind & sweet & innocent as Lulu, but some people are warped in the head. I'm really going to miss Lulu, she was the only member of Nijisanji JP I watched.
And it's not just one?? No Lulu, it's ok to take a lot of breaks, we won't be worried anymore 😭
But Lulu is always doing her best to entertain us, why would you do something horrible like that to her?
I still can't believe we won't be able to see Lulu anymore, I hope she'll be happier now
I wish all the best for her and her future endeavors. I hope we can meet her again someday
She will be come back soon from retirement and she getting her another vtuber for the future
She's so sweet, I'm gonna miss her
Wish nothing but happiness for her going forward
I come back to this video every so often and I can't help but cry each time. Lulu deserved so much better. She was the reason I got into the Vtubing community myself and I'm so thankful for her.
See the number of likes and dislikes on this clip? That illustrates how few crazies it takes to ruin the joy of so many people.
This sucks... My heart goes to this girl and i hope she can continue to do whatever she love.
Its just depressing that despite all of the good we get to see, somehow some people are so resentful that they would stoop down to doing this... What is there to even hate so much about Lulu of all people?? She's a truly gentle soul who has never done anything to deserve this much hatred...
Jealous people, or hardcore "fans", who decided that Lulu now belongs to them.
She is one of the kindest and sweetest vtubers out there. How can these bastards ruin such a beautiful thing. I hope she will find happiness after her graduation and look past these people.
shes back and im crying again lulw
Heh Wdym She's back did She Make Another channel? And if She did mind telling me i really love her
How could anyone do that to lulu she's so kind and gentle damn
As Lize wrote in a tweet, all I wish is a brighter future for Lulu.
She is such a strong woman. We'll miss her.
She will be come back soon from retirement for health and she will getting another vtuber for the future
On November 11/16
*Sigh* I still miss her... Broke my heart.
Damn bro i didn't expect she'd retire and for that reason either. That's scary. Hope she does well.
i don't want to speculate on the people who were behind the threats, all i can say is they need therapy.
Or a size-11 boot up the ass. Whatever's more efficient.
-with a bullet through their brainless skull
They need to be teared apart by hungry wolves
That's a lot of things that Lulu was handling! Thanks for the translation. I hope that her lifestyle will become what she wants. I hope her feeling of security returns. I hope that Lulu's family and herself will overcome those issues.
she's back!!!
She as literally too pure for this cesspool of a platform. Even if I don't get to watch her wonderful content, I feel good when she's able to get away from the negativity and live her life happily.
Holy shit I honestly didnt even know that she retired. Im not the biggest VTuber fan but I did make sure to tune into her streams every once and awhile. She will be missed
She is back to streaming but as a regular person
@@Aslambeck Really? Whats her channel name?
@@chickuna7854 みすみのはらわた
@@Aslambeck thank you
I forgot that this is causally happening in japan like on manga authors anime producers and even on idols but it still very sad to hear happen to people you for a long time
I want to be a bit more cheerful about her graduation, but after hearing this, it's... man. It puts in a brand new light all that time in-between streams in the last few months. Of course the actual trash good-for-nothing homunculus of a person sending death treats is the ome at fault, but i also can't help but wish Nijisanji tried harder to deal with the issue. What's done is done. I hope I get to hear Lulu's cheerful voice again in the future.
She getting her another vtuber for the future and she another channel in real life
You were dealing with so much all the while giving us your sweet smile that calmed us down. I'm so sorry for what has happened, all I want to say is that, may you find happiness in what you are going to do next and know that you have made so many of us so so so happy.
And here I was hoping she finally got married to someone, I hope she will find someone in the future and be happy with whatever she will do
I just got hooked to her content recently and finding out about this just saddens me a lot… I wish her the best.
Realistically speaking, how can we support this situation?
The only thing that comes to my head is the Superchats and donations.
So they can fund their actions like moving to a new house, hiring security when doing stuff,
But when the threat is constant, how do you realistically deal with this situation?
This problem of harassment, raiding, and stalking seems really difficult.
Maybe a new well-written law about Anti-harassment and stalking would discourage the act.
There's really not much anyone can do under internet anonymity. Unless people want to do away with that, too. (Which is the only thing protecting VTubers in the first place.)
See this is the exact kind of graduation I don't want. Coco's ended on a good note. She left under good terms and of her own free will not because she felt forced to. If I know they left the company of their own free will and it was a decision made by them alone I can be satisfied and accept it and move on. Knowing that we lost Lulu not because she wanted to quit but because she felt she had to is anger-inducing as this didn't have to happen. People can be the worst sometimes. As sweet as Lulu is and she still gets harassed like this.
Man... this seriously sucks.
Vtuber graduations are always sad sure, but there is this entire extra dimension of pain and sadness when it happens due to things out of their control like health issues or personal safety concerns.
It really makes me thankful that people like Coco and (presumably) Gibara have been able to go out on their own terms.
Thanks for taking the time to translate this, even though it's hard to watch. I feel so sorry for her, I hope she's happier now.
I'm glad she comeback to youtube
this feels a lot different from Coco's graduation. while hers was cheerful and emotive in a nostalgic and very loving way, both thanks to her fellow talents and the community, it was near impossible to shake the feeling that lulu's would not be the same. we weren't celebrating the next step in our favorite vtuber's journey, instead we were trying (and failing) to reduce the impact and the pain from losing someone, someone who was forced to go because of external pressures no person (specially someone as kind as her) should have to live with. it was too much for her, and for that i can accept that she's gone, because that is the only way for her to be free from the hell she had to go through because of the antis and other terrible people who didnt want to stop harming others for no valid reason. coco must have had her personal reasons to graduate, but lulu's situation seems to be more a cruel toxicity that was eating away at her mental health and sense of safety and comfort.
that is why i said goodbye to coco with a smile, while i cant even say the word to lulu without tears of agony flowing down my face.
The antis are mostly Chinese
Brainwashed with probably anti Japanese propaganda
I just heard the news rn cause I'm focusing too much on Kaichou. fk why this happens one after another...!
Everyone that's been troubling streamers enough that they end up leaving like this needs to get got. Sick of losing such talented people. It really hurts to one day be enjoying spending time with them doing what they love and then the next you hear they are "graduating," eventually having their wiki entry say that (Insert name) "was" a Virtual RUclipsr instead of "is."
As long as she feels safer this way
Imagine sending threats to this precious thing. I can't even think up what for, she's never been involved in any drama. What an unfair world we live in. Thank you for these wonderful two years Lulu and I wish you only the best in the future, wherever it might take you!
It really pisses me off that this was the main reason she retired. These... "creatures" who I shall not even refer to them as human, are psychopaths, sick in the head. There's just no reason, ABSOLUTELY no reason for them to do this and yet here we are. Some people just want to watch the world burn. I really hope our dear Lulu is safe now, she was my favorite Nijisanji and to see her go is extremely bittersweet.
Very sad to hear this. Hope she'll be doing better in the coming weeks / months
She will be come back soon from retirement for health
Im still missing you o' Eldritch god of ours.
NOOOO! NOT LULU TOO?!
Come on man.. I’m going to miss her cute soft voice and dangerous stares
Well that’s shitty, I hoped the reason was that she found something else she wanted to do. I don’t understand why some people go out of their way to ruin other’s lives. Hopefully she’ll find happiness and success in the future and can separate herself from the online trolls
I don’t know she will be come back soon from retirement for health and she switch to another vtuber for the future
Fuuuuuck. I was listening to this in the morning and she seemed so calm. I had no idea such serious stuff was being discussed. Poor Lulu...
Gotta love insane people making death threats to someone like Lulu. It's like they actually believe she's an eldritch being that haunts their dreams every night.
Yea
I really can't understand the thought process behind something like this
To harass her... She is a very very sweet girl she was always cheerful always giving her best she even went along with those joke that she was a cosmic being of some sort lol
I can't think of a good reason why would someone would want to hurt such a lovely person....
People who send death threats to kind and good people should receive a death sentence. People just wouldn't learn unless they're given a severe repercussion for their terrible actions. It's sad that good people like Lulu is always targeted in this world. I can only hope she's fine and healthy now.
She will be come back soon from retirement for health and she will getting a another vtuber for the future I hope she be okay
One of the few things that I hate about Vtuber is that in the end, a lot of them are Idols, and one can know how bad the life of a japanese Idol can be.
One thing's for sure though, you can't make any significant changes without making significant decisions in order to live a happy and prosperous life, and getting rid of your insecurities will be a surefire way of making progress towards real change. Its sad to accept, but its more happy and relieving to hear that Lulu is taking care of herself in the real world. May you have a safe and happy graduation Lulu 🤗❤
I respect you for straightforward "retiring" instead of family-friendly "graduating"
That's because Lulu herself used the word "intai"="retirement" all the time, not "sotsugyou"="graduation". It's just direct translation.
Graduation is mostly used by idol companies, most vtubers that don't identify themselves like that mostly use the word retirement
I still miss her a lot, but I'm really glad that she's doing well right now regardless
Some people really need to be put down man.
Even if it ended, i am still glad, greatful and happy for being with her all those years.
Thank you for the memories, Suzuhara Lulu. OtsuLulu~
Y'know they stoop low enough to pull happy people down with them.
"If only I could deal with every single threat"
Sweetheart, don't. You might just ended up terrorizing them and got into another trouble.
This is why their faces need to be kept secret~
Understandable. I view that this decision is the best for her. Imagine going through that ourselves, we'd be quitting too.
Still very sad though. Damn you antis!!!
It’s a war
She came back and apparently, her model is also drawn by Saine
Ah really? Where can i find her?
can u tell me
@@satriareza7501 みすみのはらわた on youtube
@@nooxis2643 thx
Thank you for the translation. I didn’t watch much of Lulu (or Nijisanji, for that matter) but I did know about her and the impact she had in the VTuber community. Sucks that something so stupid caused this to happen, and those idiots who send those threats are below the scum of the Earth. Regardless, if this is the path she wants to take to be more personally happy, then more power to her. I hope she finds that happiness and further success wherever she goes.
would her channel n twitter got thanos snapped like Gibara's? :'^(
I didn't include it in the video but.
Her archives will remain for 6 months.
After that some it might disappear due to stuff that may happen down the line.
But she wishes for her archives to remain.
>archive will remain for six months
>she did discuss the possibility of leaving the account open beyond six months, but is hesitant because of reasons that might pop up down the line
>i'd like to preserve the archive as much as i can, but it's not guaranteed
>twitter account will remain.
(copy paste from original stream)
Sankyuu m8!! 10Q!! 🙏
I never had a chance to watch miss Lulu but I sincerely wish her a great future ahead. May she find the peace she deserves.
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For lulu fans:
give her a hug and say "thank you for the memories."